Elisa Lam (WARNING: Stomach-turning news)

[AhabsOtherLeg]

I'm glad I turned out to be wrong about the Delta P thing, since the body (apparently) showed no real signs of physical damage. That would've made it a lot worse to consider.

No toxicology reports yet?

[8bitagent]

Um, not to be crass...but this is maybe a 1 or 2 on the "disturbing" scale as far as news stories.

Oh? So bathing in and drinking up the dark fetid juices of a decomposing body ain't nuthin', eh?

Not nothing, but not on a Black Dhalia level. The German internet cannibal case, Canadian Greyhound cannibal case, Dahmer case, UFC cannibal case...pretty much any cannibal case is skyward bounds more f'd up.
However it is the very David Lynchian nature of this whole thing that is disturbing...creepy...out of a weird book.

Well, I cannot possibly agree with you more about setting the bar there, nothing can match that horror. (Except maybe every McDonald's or Outback Steakhouse commercial.) I just think the scale should be 1-to-10 or 1-to-20, and that showering in and drinking from water blackened by the rot of a dead body should rate a 9 or a 17. That wasn't rust, that was human corpse juice. One of the most sickening things ever. I stand by that assessment.

I guess I'm just jaded from even my local news, where I'm used to hearing soul shattering horror every day on the telly. To me the real disturbing thing would be if there was foul play...so far the armchair detectives seem split on the case. But a lengthy book could definitely be written on dark LA topology, from Black Dhalia, Laurel Canyon and Manson to this sort of thing.

[AhabsOtherLeg]

But a lengthy book could definitely be written on dark LA topology, from Black Dhalia, Laurel Canyon and Manson to this sort of thing.

Did psychogeography ever catch on in the States? It was a big thing here for a while, but the books all seemed to be about London, which also has a long dark past ... and present.

Reading up on the Zodiac recently I did get the distinct impression that every second person in California is most likely a serial killer. There's an embarassment of plausible suspects who were all operating in the same area over the same time period.

[8bitagent]

Cute kid. Though some are suggesting she had all the signs of a bad trip on ecstacy: http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/44432 ... -hotel.htm
If there's foul play, or heck Forteana angle going on, we may never know. There's definitely something very Shining about that hotel though. Richard Ramirez stayed for extended periods on the top floor? Yipes

But a lengthy book could definitely be written on dark LA topology, from Black Dhalia, Laurel Canyon and Manson to this sort of thing.

Did psychogeography ever catch on in the States? It was a big thing here for a while, but the books all seemed to be about London, which also has a long dark past ... and present.

Reading up on the Zodiac recently I did get the distinct impression that every second person in California is most likely a serial killer. There's an embarassment of plausible suspects who were all operating in the same area over the same time period.

Zodiac's identity, like the true story behind 9/11 or JFK, probably is never meant to be known. I know there's been a number of well known books on esoteric American topology. "Kingdom 33", Lorne Coleman's Weird America(I think thats what its called) and the Levenda ones.

[8bitagent]

Just watched the youtube short. Ok, officially creeped out. Didnt know about that Dark Water movie and the sync...creepy. Yeah how the heck could she have gotten in there?
Seeing the full video of her in the elevator, the reporter saying how he has no idea how she could have gotten in there and then the dark water movie thing....eep.

Yeah ok Fourthbase, I'll give ya the disturbing thing on this. To me its different than the usual disturbing, and has almost a more Shining/David Lynch creep factor to it.


*EDIT* Another sync, Aleister Crowley and "Lam".

[AhabsOtherLeg]

There's definitely something very Shining about that hotel

Very much so. Here's a video tour of several floors from two years ago. It would be creepy even if we knew nothing else about the place.

[elfismiles]

Elisa Lam Mystery Death Case Investigative Report

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZb9D83qVno

nothing new

[Spiro C. Thiery]

Apropos almost nothing, from an interview in the Guardian about her new film, Trance:

Dawson plays Elizabeth Lamb, a hypnotherapist hired by a crime boss...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2013/mar ... never-knew

[LolaB]

Caught this and decided to share before it goes down the memory hole:

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-canadian-tourist-elisa-lams-death-ruled-accidental-20130620,0,4700661.story

Canadian tourist Elisa Lam's death ruled an accidental drowning

By Andrew Blankstein
June 20, 2013, 2:01 p.m.
A Canadian tourist whose body was discovered in a water tank atop a downtown Los Angeles hotel four months ago died in an accidental drowning, coroner's officials said Thursday.

A maintainence worker discovered the body of Elisa Lam, 21, on Feb. 19 after residents of the Cecil Hotel complained about low water pressure. At the time Lam had been missing for several weeks from the hotel after traveling there from Vancouver.

Los Angeles County coroner's officials said her bipolar disorder was a significant condition, but did not elaborate.

Coroner's officials noted that the medical examination found no visible signs of trauma on the body and toxicology tests found nothing that contributed to her death.

Lam had been missing for three weeks before being found. During that time, detectives with the LAPD's Robbery-Homicide Division appealed to the public for help in the case that included the release of video of her inside a Cecil Hotel elevator. In surveillance footage, Lam could be seen pushing buttons for multiple floors and at one point stepping out of the elevator and waving her arms.

The only ways to get to the roof are via a locked door that only employees have access to and a fire escape. The door is equipped with an alarm system that notifies hotel personnel if someone is on the roof, Los Angeles police Sgt. Rudy Lopez said.

Lam's case inspired amateur sleuths to post numerous theories on websites about what might have happened to her. International media outlets, particularly in Canada and China, have also continued their coverage of the story.

Much of the speculation focuses on the surveillance video of Lam in the hotel elevator. The video has gone viral on the Chinese video site Youku.com, with more than 3 million views and 40,000 comments in a 10-day span.

Many commenters said they were disturbed by the tape, with one calling it "spooky."

"I knew about Elisa Lam but this is the first time I saw the video," one wrote. "I'm so scared, I'm shaking. I'm numb."

The case is not the first recent L.A.-based investigation to attract Chinese attention. Last year's shooting deaths of two Chinese graduate students near USC brought Chinese media to the university and county courtrooms, and drew strong reactions overseas.

[Col Quisp]

I was just thinking about this case recently. Thanks for the update, although it does not really tell us anything. Glad the Chinese are entertained by it.

[Spiro C. Thiery]

I would prefer an admission of ignorance than this opaque declaration of case-closed certainty. That poor kid. If it were the LAPD on television instead of the LAPD, I'd think this was all just a ruse to smoke out the perp.

[Nordic]

Accidental? So the locked doors all accidentally became unlocked and she accidentally forgot how to swim? Oh and the LAPD accidentally forgot to learn which employee unlocked the doors for her so she could accidentally throw herself into a water tank. Okay, I'll buy that.

[Spiro C. Thiery]

Elisa Lam, body found in hotel water tank, inspires horror film
By Joseph Serna
March 4, 2014, 11:42 a.m
The death of Canadian tourist Elisa Lam, whose body was found in a water tank atop a Los Angeles hotel, has inspired the plot of a Hollywood horror movie.

Lam, 21, was found dead in a water tank on the roof of the Cecil Hotel on Feb. 21, 2013. Her odd behavior in the hours before her disappearance sparked fears and conspiracy theories about how she died.

Deadline Hollywood reported that Sony Pictures Entertainment and Matt Tolmach Productions acquired rights to the screenplay “The Bringing,” speculatively written by Brandon and Phillip Murphy, which focuses on a detective's mysterious encounters as he investigates Lam’s death. Sources confirmed details of the project to The Times.

RELATED: Tourist's unexplained death draws attention, theories in China

Before Lam's body was found she had been missing for weeks. Los Angeles police released video from a hotel elevator that showed her acting strangely in the hours before her disappearance. She can be seen stepping into the elevator and pressing multiple buttons, then peeking outside. Later, she steps out of the elevator and waves her arms, but no one else is ever shown in the video.

The only way to gain access to the hotel roof where the water tank is located is through a locked door accessible only by employees and a fire escape that is supposed to sound an alarm.

Workers at the hotel discovered her body while investigating reports of low water pressure in hotel showers.

The coroner ruled that Lam died of an accidental drowning. The autopsy report noted Lam’s bipolar disorder was a significant condition but did not elaborate. Drugs were not a factor in her death.

The death added to the Cecil Hotel’s eerie history. The hotel was a favorite haunt of the late “Night Stalker” mass killer Richard Ramirez and Austrian serial killer Jack Unterweger in the 1990s.

Goldie Osgood, known as Pershing Square’s “pigeon lady” in the '90s, was also killed in a hotel room there.

[conniption]

True Scary Story: Death of Elisa Lam

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dYHzblg84A
Alana George

Published on Sep 17, 2014

WARNING: This video contains GRAPHIC pictures. Viewer discretion is advised. Recommended for +18.

I'm sad to have had to close the comment section on this video but the amount of negativity that was being thrown around was just ridiculous. I hope you all still enjoy the video!!