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tapitsbo » Fri Oct 02, 2015 12:37 pm wrote:Another possibility is that if the USA hadn't attacked Syria OR funded the jihadi destabilization, America wouldn't be in such a humiliating position.
Nordic » Fri Oct 02, 2015 1:29 am wrote:
Obama and the U.S. are in the position of defending Al Queda terrorists and admitting they funded and trained these enemies of the state in order to destabilize Iraq. Aiding and abetting the enemy, the very people they claim attacked us on 9-11 and who we have been fighting and killing for 14 giving years.
That is treason, pure and simple. The enormity of this is pretty fucking enormous. But it's not even the half of it.
tapitsbo » Fri Oct 02, 2015 12:03 pm wrote:It's not ridiculous or impossible - large-scale purges of ethnic or class groups have happened before.
I'm pretty sure the sharper witted actors on all sides don't feel they "deserve" anything and realize they'll only get what they fight for.
What you wrote begs the question of why the current elites who are largely white-coloured men are pouring massive amounts of funding and energy into neutralizing what gets called the patriarchy (see: the university system). My guess is that they want to minimize resistance from frustrated, fighting-age males, among other things
But now we're back to the long-term, institutional social engineering projects researched by people like guruilla or Dream's End
Sheriff In Charge Of Oregon Massacre Probe Posted Sandy Hook Truther Video
The sheriff investigating a mass shooting at an Oregon community college that left at least nine people dead posted a video to Facebook in 2013 that raised questions about the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting.
Douglas County Sheriff John Hanlin posted a link to a YouTube video called "The Sandy Hook Shooting - Fully Exposed," which summarized conspiracy theories surrounding the shooting and quickly racked up millions of views, about a month after the massacre took place.
"This makes me wonder who we can trust anymore..." Hanlin wrote. "Watch, listen, and keep an open mind."
IanEye » Fri Oct 02, 2015 11:21 am wrote:
Your framing on this is interesting.
Obama went to Congress in 2013 for their approval of a military strike solution in Syria.
They turned him down, and he abided by that decision.
All of the "humiliations" you tally up to the present can be traced back to that decision.
So your framing, while appearing to be critical of the neo-con perspective, it fact validates it.
Obama was weak for abiding by the decision of the Congress. If the Executive Branch had "gone it alone", Obama would not be in his current "humiliating" position.
also, this:
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Are you joking? It's hard to tell with you.
This is about American imperialism and America's sense (that just ended abruptly) that they can do whatever the fuck they want in the world and nobody will hold them accountable or call them on their bullshit.
History just changed.
There is a new world order, literally. As of this week. It's a big deal.
And it was a total defeat for the Americans. Just BAM!
We should round up all the neocons now and throw them in jail. Including those who fake bring non-neocons, like Obama. It would be a really good time to do so.
Nordic » Fri Oct 02, 2015 3:04 pm wrote:IanEye » Fri Oct 02, 2015 11:21 am wrote:
Your framing on this is interesting.
Obama went to Congress in 2013 for their approval of a military strike solution in Syria.
They turned him down, and he abided by that decision.
All of the "humiliations" you tally up to the present can be traced back to that decision.
So your framing, while appearing to be critical of the neo-con perspective, it fact validates it.
Obama was weak for abiding by the decision of the Congress. If the Executive Branch had "gone it alone", Obama would not be in his current "humiliating" position.
also, this:
.
Are you joking? It's hard to tell with you.
This is about American imperialism and America's sense (that just ended abruptly) that they can do whatever the fuck they want in the world and nobody will hold them accountable or call them on their bullshit.
History just changed.
There is a new world order, literally. As of this week. It's a big deal.
And it was a total defeat for the Americans. Just BAM!
We should round up all the neocons now and throw them in jail. Including those who fake bring non-neocons, like Obama. It would be a really good time to do so.
Chief Judge Jonathan Lippman announces bail reforms for New York
Chief judge says simple lack of money traps many in detention
By Robert Gavin
Updated 11:38 pm, Thursday, October 1, 2015
Chief Judge Jonathan Lippman wants to overhaul the state's bail system — and he is starting in New York City.
The judge, who will leave his post at the end of the year due to reaching the mandatory retirement age of 70, said 40 percent of the jail population in New York City is being detained before trial only because the defendants lack the money to afford bail. He argued that for many defendants, a pre-trial bail of $2,500 might as well be $25 million.
"These numbers do not lie," Lippman in a speech at the Citizens Crime Commission. "Far too many people are trapped in pre-trial detention simply because they are poor."
Lippman has pushed legislation to create statutory presumption that a defendant will be released without bail if the judge determines there is no risk to public safety or legitimate expectation that the person will not return to court.
While that legislation would need to pass into law to take effect, Lippman took measures Thursday to handle the issue administratively.
The judge directed the criminal courts in all five boroughs of the city to have a judge automatically review bail determinations whenever defendants charged with misdemeanor have been unable to make bail.
"This means the judge will take a fresh look at the case and make an independent determination whether the bail amount should be adjusted — higher or lower — or whether bail should be permitted in a less onerous form," Lippman said.
Lippman ordered regular, periodic judicial review of case viability and bail. When defendants are in custody pending disposition of the charges against them, he said, the new rules will require a status conference at designated milestones in the person's case. Lippman noted the case of a Bronx teen who committed suicide after spending at least 2 1/2 years in Rikers Island because he could not afford bail in a backpack robbery case based on a one witness, which was dismissed.
The judge is additionally ordering a pilot program in Manhattan where electronic supervision will be used to track defendants on pretrial release — and immediately locate them if they do not appear in court when needed. He said other states and the federal government have been using such techniques for 20 years.
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