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Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

Postby PufPuf93 » Wed Aug 10, 2016 9:10 pm

Hillary Clinton's Vice President according to Hopsicker and that means Jesuits, gun running, and drugs.

http://www.madcowprod.com/2016/07/31/ti ... more-12373

Tim Kaine’s Unlikely Biography

Posted on July 31, 2016 by Daniel Hopsicker


Tim Kaine isn’t shy about trading on his year in Honduras as a Catholic missionary.

Accepting the V.P. nomination, he said, “My faith is my North Star for orienting my life.” He had gone to a Jesuit high school, he explained, with the motto “men for others.” It led him to volunteer as a missionary in Honduras.

much more at link.
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Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

Postby JackRiddler » Thu Aug 11, 2016 1:56 am

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Don't Believe Everything You Read Department

(at least not before you check it) :

Now here's some fodder (article posted below) that at first appeared credible to me. My first thought was that a guy like Beckel, if indeed a "Clinton strategist" mouthing off like this on TV, also sounds like he might be closer to the ground in not just inciting, but hey, why not arranging killings? Maybe he should be a person of interest for the Rich killing?

So I was about to post the following story without comment, except then I started checking out the claims and discovered it is BOGUS.

I thought the Beckel comments sounded like deja vu, and they are: Beckel did call on live television for the extrajudicial assassination of Julian Assange, but he actually did so nearly SIX YEARS AGO, word-for-word, on FOXNEWS in Dec. 2010.

FOX later fired him, in 2015, for unrelated reasons: http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/201 ... kel-209504.

Beckel is now with CNN. So the story also gets that wrong.

See here for Beckel bio, including his very long-ago jobs with the government and the Democratic Party or candidate campaigns: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Beckel

The same is true of the Grunwald posting on Twitter, which I remember clearly (the one who wants to justify a potential drone attack on Assange).

Both comments came out during the initial hysteria about Wikileaks in the wake of its first big packages on Iraq and Afghanistan provided by Manning.

Although he's held government and Democratic campaign jobs in the past, I find no evidence that Beckel is anything other than a cable news blowhard, not a current surrogate or "strategist" of the Clinton campaign.

Thus this story fabricates by reporting Beckel's actual comments from 2010 as though they happened yesterday and are related to the DNC leak, weaving Beckel's 2010 comments into a story about the current Assange/DNC situation, and falsely claiming he is a "Clinton strategist."

The latter phrasing, however, comes from the Wikileaks tweet linked in the story, which is genuine. So they are providing the bullshit on that. The Wikileaks tweet didn't specify a false date for Beckel's comments, so their posting of the 2010 video can be seen simply as a demonstration that bloodthirsty calls for political assassinations do not come only from Trump.

Not however their calling him a "Clinton strategist." So far I find no evidence that this character is currently or in the past associated with a Clinton campaign. Correct me if you find otherwise. So that's a stupid move on Wikileaks' part, and not the first bad shit from them, especially on their Twitter feed.

This is not a game. How does it help to make up shit that can then be falsified? Wrong and stupid.


http://thefreethoughtproject.com/illega ... sassinate/

“Illegally Shoot the Son of a Bitch” — Clinton Strategist Calls for Assassination of Julian Assange on TV

Claire Bernish August 10, 2016 23 Comments

Hillary Clinton strategist Bob Beckel appeared on on Fox calling for the assassination of Julian Assange — a blatant urge for violence against the Wikileaks founder in direct contradiction of every possible natural and government law.

Wikileaks, of course, has published several damning caches of documents showing Clinton in none-too-favorable light — including emails from her controversially-employed private server as well as communications from the DNC which proved her campaign colluded with mainstream media.

“I mean, a dead man can’t leak stuff,” Beckel chillingly noted of Assange. “The guy’s a traitor, a treasonist, and … and he has broken every law in the United States. The guy ought to be — and I’m not for the death penalty — so, if I’m not for the death penalty, there’s only one way to do it, illegally shoot the son of a bitch.”

Hillary Clinton strategist Bob Beckel called for WikiLeaks editor Julian Assange to be assassinated. #DNCLeak pic.twitter.com/9L2ixl24Er
— WikiLeaks (@wikileaks) August 10, 2016


That’s right: A Democratic National Committee strategist — knowing Clinton’s reputation has been profoundly damaged by revelations brought to light by Wikileaks — feels Assange’s defiance of the law is so egregious, someone should take it up a notch by “illegally” assassinating the organization’s founder.

Apparently getting caught red-handed as the DNC now clearly has been, requires an altogether insane response of death outside the provisions of law.

But, as if Beckel’s outlandish statement weren’t inflammatory enough, senior staff writer for Politico Michael Grunwald took to Twitter to compound the madness, which Wikileaks happily retweeted.

“I can’t wait to write a defense of the drone strike that takes out Julian Assange,” Grunwald arrogantly asserted.


America's journalistic class showing class on assassination. Grunwald, an Obama hagiographer, is now at Politico. pic.twitter.com/M3kplF9NuF
— WikiLeaks (@wikileaks) August 10, 2016


Politico, it must be noted, appeared prominently in the DNC leak for working in tandem with Clinton campaign staff to ensure articles would display Hillary in the best light possible — one journalist even shared an article with Hillary’s campaign staff prior to submitting it to editors.

Prior to these explosive calls to hunt down and kill Assange, the Wikileaks head appeared on Dutch outlet Niewsurr, where he seemed to suggest murdered DNC staffer Seth Rich had been a source of the leaks so infuriating Beckel and Grunwald.

“I’m suggesting that our sources take risks and they are — they become concerned to see things occurring like that,” Assange said of Rich, who was murdered early in the morning in what authorities have thus far insisted was a robbery — though there were no witnesses to his killing to back up or refute that claim.

“We have to understand how high the stakes are in the United States,” Assange continued when pressed by the host if he was implying foul play in Rich’s untimely death. “Our sources are — you know, our sources face serious risks. That’s why they come to us. So we can protect their anonymity.”


Assange has repeatedly refused to reveal Wikileaks’ sources, as a rule — a policy the organization prides itself on — and in keeping with that, refused to reveal with certainty whether or not Rich had indeed been the source of any leaks.

Rumors about Rich have certainly run the gamut on social media, but several suspicious circumstances must be considered. As Underground Reporter noted, Rich had reportedly been slated to testify in one investigation of Clinton. And according to the Washington Post, Rich had been investigating possible instances of fraud and voter suppression perpetrated by the DNC.

Assange, as The Free Thought Project noted, has additionally offered a reward of $20,000 for information leading to the conviction of Rich’s murderer.

Perhaps the call for Assange’s assassination by a Clinton lackey shouldn’t come as much of a surprise given the aforementioned extenuating circumstances — but it certainly lends yet more credence to growing sentiment that Hillary Clinton and her cadre of establishment supporters will quite literally stop at nothing to ensure she reaches the White House.



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Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

Postby The Consul » Thu Aug 11, 2016 4:54 pm

Assange just wants to hack his way out of the embassy. The way he is doing it conflicts with what Wikileaks was supposed to be. He is allowing it to become a political tool. RT is owned and operated by Russian interests and at least as influenced by Russian interests as ABC is by the CIA..RIA Novosti news agency, which owns RT could not exist without currying favor, probably quite a bit of favor, with Putin.

But thinking back to The Days of Jeff I am reminded of an old Dylan quote

Propaganda, all is phony

And that is what we are dealing with. Nearly everything on television and no small amount of what is on the internets is bullshit excreted from one echo chamber or another to serve the interests of Religion, Oil & War, And yes, sometimes you have to choose between Hitler and Stalin. Millions had to make that decision (if they could) in Belarus Ukraine and surrounding areas. Millions did not survive (see the book Bloodlands by Timothy Snyder - I say see because it is actually a very hard book to read all the way through). It fills in the blanks in great detail of Col Kurtz's the horror, the horror. So I don't see any value in defending or attacking HRC or DT anymore than Der Fuhrer or Uncle Joe. At least not here. RI is here, IMO, to undress them both and see just how their boils ooze. One is not the answer to the other. Neither are the answer to anything. Assange has become a toy mouse full of catnip and go back to the old discussions on him and there's plenty of convo regarding just what kind of "agent" he might really be. I feel in my bones He is useful right now to whoever can spring him loose.
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Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

Postby Agent Orange Cooper » Thu Aug 11, 2016 6:22 pm



Propaganda.
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Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

Postby slimmouse » Thu Aug 11, 2016 6:33 pm

The current contest is like watching the WWF on steroids.

Graham Hancock suggests, amidst other very salient points that we are a species with amnesia, currently governed by a venal class of politicians, who clearly couldnt give a true care about those they supposedly represent.

I find it very hard to disagree.
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Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

Postby Nordic » Thu Aug 11, 2016 6:40 pm

"He who wounds the ecosphere literally wounds God" -- Philip K. Dick
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Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

Postby seemslikeadream » Thu Aug 11, 2016 6:49 pm

free ride or not Trump is an idiot....a racist....a misogynist...a draft dogger ...a moron ...a hooooooge biggly looooooser and is now in fact going to lose this election ....

did I mention he is a piece of shit?

he can go away borrow some rubles and build ice castles in Siberia for all I care


maybe someone will have to stand in for Hilly but The A$$hole will still loooooose biggly time
Mazars and Deutsche Bank could have ended this nightmare before it started.
They could still get him out of office.
But instead, they want mass death.
Don’t forget that.
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Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

Postby slimmouse » Thu Aug 11, 2016 6:57 pm

seemslikeadream » 11 Aug 2016 22:49 wrote:free ride or not Trump is an idiot....a racist....a misogynist...a draft dogger ...a moron ...a hooooooge biggly looooooser and is now in fact going to lose this election ....

did I mention he is a piece of shit?

he can go away borrow some rubles and build ice castles in Siberia for all I care


maybe someone will have to stand in for Hilly but The A$$hole will still loooooose biggly time


The whore of Babylon vs the rich idiot.

Thats a pretty tough choice for the world to have to make
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Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

Postby Karmamatterz » Fri Aug 12, 2016 8:08 am

And that is what we are dealing with. Nearly everything on television and no small amount of what is on the internets is bullshit excreted from one echo chamber or another to serve the interests of Religion, Oil & War, And yes, sometimes you have to choose between Hitler and Stalin. Millions had to make that decision (if they could) in Belarus Ukraine and surrounding areas. Millions did not survive (see the book Bloodlands by Timothy Snyder - I say see because it is actually a very hard book to read all the way through). It fills in the blanks in great detail of Col Kurtz's the horror, the horror. So I don't see any value in defending or attacking HRC or DT anymore than Der Fuhrer or Uncle Joe. At least not here. RI is here, IMO, to undress them both and see just how their boils ooze. One is not the answer to the other. Neither are the answer to anything. Assange has become a toy mouse full of catnip and go back to the old discussions on him and there's plenty of convo regarding just what kind of "agent" he might really be. I feel in my bones He is useful right now to whoever can spring him loose.


Thank you Consul.

It's somewhat entertaining to browse the RI comments on Killary and Drumpf. Now and then informative with how many RI'ers use their wit and skill at dissecting. But mostly it's a giant hampster wheel spinning round and round with a different smelling fart breeze echoing out of the media on a daily basis.
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Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

Postby Luther Blissett » Fri Aug 12, 2016 8:35 am

Some of the hit pieces and sockpuppetry against Stein and the Greens is getting wild. Pulling the "unamerican" card, really focusing on Stein's foibles rather than the leftist thrust of Clinton critics, blatantly lying about vaccines, wifi, her tax returns and income, etc.
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Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

Postby Nordic » Fri Aug 12, 2016 8:24 pm

Luther Blissett » Fri Aug 12, 2016 7:35 am wrote:Some of the hit pieces and sockpuppetry against Stein and the Greens is getting wild. Pulling the "unamerican" card, really focusing on Stein's foibles rather than the leftist thrust of Clinton critics, blatantly lying about vaccines, wifi, her tax returns and income, etc.


It's gonna get worse.
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Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

Postby seemslikeadream » Sat Aug 13, 2016 1:54 pm

http://wearechange.org/fbi-mutiny-wikil ... oundation/


FBI MUTINY? WikiLeaks Tweets FBI Investigating Clinton Foundation
avatar by Aaron Kesel | Aug 12, 2016

Full Disclosure – I am one of many journalists that has received inside information for months that the FBI has multiple joint investigation probes into the Clinton Foundation.
Now, the Daily Caller and WikiLeaks have tipped that investigations between the FBI and the New York State Attorney are working together to prosecute the Clinton Foundation.
A former senior law enforcement official is the official source that the probe will be led by Preet Bharara of the Civil Frauds Unit and Complex Frauds Unit in the Southern District of New York.
There are a number of lucrative deals that the Foundation has made, documented famously in the film Clinton Cash. The Clintons are in for it.
U.S. Attorney General Preet Bharara is known to be harsh on political corrupt figures, previously securing convictions of former New York State Assembly Speaker Sheldon Silver and Republican Majority Leader Dean Skelos.
So where does the investigation stem from — how did the FBI dodge the Department of Justice’s mandate not to prosecute? The key is Terry McAuliffe, who pledged $2 billion dollars to the Clinton Foundation. The FBI was able to skate around the Department of Justice by probing Terry McAuliffe’s time on the board of the Clinton Global Initiative, which is part of the Clinton Foundation. One major donor to the McAuliffe campaign also pledged $2 million to the Clinton Foundation. So investigators used Terry McAuliffe’s investigation to open a probe into the Clinton Foundation.
There are also several links to the Chinese shared by Terry McAuliffe and the Clintons. Both had a financial relationship with wealthy Chinese donors. Terry McAuliffe invited a Chinese donor to Hillary’s home and a subsequent donation to the Clinton Foundation was made.
Wang Wenliang, a former delegate to China’s legislative body, and the National People’s Congress, and Ng Lap Seng, a wealthy Chinese businessman accused of public corruption by the Chinese government, are both linked to the Clintons.
In 1996, before the U.S. presidential election, Ng Lap Seng was involved in a Congressional probe into how foreign money was funneled into to the Democratic National Committee during the Clinton administration. Although, never convicted in that case, in another case he was accused and indicted on a scheme to bring $4.5 million into the U.S., while also being wanted in China on corruption charges. Those charges caused a revival of the former case against him implicating the Clintons, and he may sing like a canary in court.
An additional red flag raised by following the money
“According to “Anthony Rodham, Hillary Clinton’s brother used an investment firm ran by McAuliffe to funnel money from a controversial U.S. visa program into McAuliffe’s electric car company. Then-Secretary of State Clinton ran the agency charged with overseeing the visa program, which benefited investors in U.S. companies”, reported the FreeBeacon.
This is a probe into public corruption — not emails. This also requires no intent — if there is a sliver of evidence found of missing money or a lucrative deal that left Bill and Hillary rich, that is guilt. In 2015 alone, the Clinton Fraudation failed to disclose 1,100 foreign donations to it’s “charity fund.”
In July, last month a congresswoman Rep. Corrine Brown (D-Fla.) and her chief of staff, Elias “Ronnie” Simmons were indicted on 24 counts for exactly what Bill and Hillary are doing – using a charity foundation as a slush fund to make lucrative deals, receive bribes and do political favors. Again, much of the evidence for the Clintons’ bribery has already been published in the documentary Clinton Cash.
Additionally last week, the feds raided an office of Philly Union Boss John “Johnny Doc” Dougherty whon is Tied to the DNC and Clinton. This went viral when social media got a hold of it and misidentified the raid as being a raid on Hillary’s campaign offices.

With Julian Assange holding further cards to play at any key moment, with Hillary already publicly dodging charges from the email scandsal, the Clintons have been backed into a corner and we might actually see Hillary and Bill brought out in handcuffs and paraded in front of the media.
The Clintons’ fall could take many other powerful people in the government who have used the Clinton Foundation to get rich with them, which explains the establishment is pulling every dirty trick in the book to try and save Hillary.
“When you look at any foundation, and the Clinton Foundation in particular, you have to check and see what its authorized tax exempt purposes are. Because this entity raises money from the public continuously…they have to be very specific.
Their authorized tax exempt purpose, stated in their application dated 23 December 2007, was just supposed to be a presidential archival research facility in Little Rock. They never have been authorized as far as I can tell from the public filings, they have never been authorized to fight HIV/Aids, fight climate change, convene meetings in New York and set up these various initiatives.
None of them has been validly authorized, which means they have been raising money with materially false and misleading public filings. They have been doing it using the mail, using the Internet and using telephones, all of which is a federal crime.” ~Charles Ortel, to USA Watchdog.
Mazars and Deutsche Bank could have ended this nightmare before it started.
They could still get him out of office.
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Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

Postby Grizzly » Sat Aug 13, 2016 8:01 pm



18 Years Later - Pam Martens Sends Another Warning To The Fed & The Clintons
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-08-1 ... d-clintons

It is the same players that we saw enabling reckless behavior in 1998: Citigroup, the Fed, and the Clinton-led Wall Street Democrats. And, as Jesse notes, here we are again, almost eighteen years later, watching the same short term, selfish characteristics by the big money banks putting the entire economy of productive individuals at risk again...

"There’s something big and scary going on behind the scenes but, as usual, the public isn’t reading about it on the front pages of the newspapers." Pam Martens and Russ Martens warn that big banks and big insurers send scary signals...


much more...
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Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

Postby Nordic » Sat Aug 13, 2016 9:31 pm

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Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

Postby Cordelia » Tue Aug 16, 2016 2:37 pm

Huffington Post weighs in:

Conspiracy Theorists Won’t Stop Accusing The Clintons Of Murder


The families who have lost their loved ones want the speculation to stop.


08/15/2016 05:16 pm ET

"WASHINGTON ― The woman on the verge of becoming the next president is part of a crime family that has left a trail of dozens of dead bodies in its bloodthirsty pursuit of power.

Or anyway, that is the conclusion you might reach if you spend any time in some of the darker, more conspiracy-laden corners of the internet.

For over two decades now, the Clintons’ opponents have been accusing them of literally getting away with murder. In Bill Clinton’s first term, certain elements on the right accused the president and first lady of murdering their old friend Vince Foster as a way to cover up corruption. Later, as secretary of state, Hillary Clinton had to prove over and over again that she did not deliberately let Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans die in Benghazi, Libya.

And now, there are accusations that she was behind the tragic death of Seth Rich, a 27-year-old staffer at the Democratic National Committee who was shot and killed last month in Washington, D.C. Police say the shooting may have been part of an attempted robbery. But if you listen to people like Wikileaks founder Julian Assange, Rich was really gunned down because he was cooperating with hackers leaking DNC emails. For the record: There’s absolutely nothing to suggest this is true."

Continued.........
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hil ... c36e4f5ffa

Meanwhile, in its 6th week, the Rich case is growing colder. Any arrests, leads, even an update on this high-profile case from MPDC?
Or, from the spokesman for the family, Brad Bauman, of the Pastorum Group?
http://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000152- ... a799bf0000

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