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I've been thinking about this and I'm realizing I really don't understand the basis of the original rift between Rachel and Virginia and/or Kate.
I'm puzzled as to when, where and how they all first heard of each other and how the animosity which now exists first began.
This really is not clear to me, and I'm also left wondering how much peripheral people who have some kind of longer history with each other might have been a part of bringing things to the point where they are now.
Anyone who has insight or information that is relevant is welcome to share what they've got.
audioslave wrote:My opinion is that Thompson might have also been involved with Susan Hamlin's claim of being assaulted.
American Dream wrote:I'm going to post something I wrote a page back, because I'd hate to see it to get lost in the shuffle:I've been thinking about this and I'm realizing I really don't understand the basis of the original rift between Rachel and Virginia and/or Kate.
I'm puzzled as to when, where and how they all first heard of each other and how the animosity which now exists first began.
This really is not clear to me, and I'm also left wondering how much peripheral people who have some kind of longer history with each other might have been a part of bringing things to the point where they are now.
Anyone who has insight or information that is relevant is welcome to share what they've got.
Dr_Doogie wrote:audioslave wrote:My opinion is that Thompson might have also been involved with Susan Hamlin's claim of being assaulted.
If you are suggesting that Thompson himself may have committed the assault of Susan, then you should be made aware that Thompson has been continuously in prison since the mid 1980's. California is notorious for being soft on crime, but even they do not have a "work furlough program" for hitmen/goons.
However, I am with you in spirit on this. Thompson is surely involved in many other crimes including murder. The NMN crew's attempt to explain away their advocacy for Thompson by saying that there is a presumption of innocence is hollow - did they give Rachel, who was not even charged with a crime, the presumption of innocence or did they immediately "convict" her of being an actress and having no famial connection to the case?
The distrust of NMN that is being shown here by several posters is, I believe, a direct result the slanted reporting of the Thompson trial. The writers used the same techniques that they had used in the past, but they went so over-the-top this time that their agenda became clear to the critical observor. We now see that the emperor has no clothes and any attempts to obscure that fact now by them or their apologists are failing miserably.
audioslave wrote:I'll try one last time to give American Dream a way out of this hole he's in, even though he just implied myself and eyepen are the same person.
et in Arcadia ego wrote:audioslave wrote:I'll try one last time to give American Dream a way out of this hole he's in, even though he just implied myself and eyepen are the same person.
I'm not speaking to any one person here, but that kinda stuff is what's going to get threads locked one after the other. I'm not actively moderating this forum at this time, but I will tell you Jeff has no patience for accusations against other forum members. So, to repeat what I said in the locked thread, if you have doubts about someone that go beyond their posts making a nerve in your face twitch, please notify Jeff privately and make your case in clear, concise terms.
American Dream wrote:I'm going to post something I wrote a page back, because I'd hate to see it to get lost in the shuffle:I've been thinking about this and I'm realizing I really don't understand the basis of the original rift between Rachel and Virginia and/or Kate.
I'm puzzled as to when, where and how they all first heard of each other and how the animosity which now exists first began.
This really is not clear to me, and I'm also left wondering how much peripheral people who have some kind of longer history with each other might have been a part of bringing things to the point where they are now.
Anyone who has insight or information that is relevant is welcome to share what they've got.
dersertfae wrote:Let me tell you a story, it may even come as a shock to VM and KD.
Early on in my investigation (first week), I attempted to find VM to talk with her. Instead of getting this VM, I got another one on the phone. This other VM explained to me how she couldn't stand the VM I was trying to get in touch with. I thanked her and let her go after hearing why she couldn't stand her.
Shortly after this, I started getting emails and phone calls from others explaining to never trust VM or KD. And this may come as another shock to VM and KD, it's not who you think it is that contacted me. I literally had multiple people tell me nearly the same types of things, and most of these people didn't even know each other. Some of the things told to me were how they backstab people, steal documents from people, act as though they are trying to help people and then turn around and help the bad guys, etc. At this point, I started to look into them and what they had done (VM mostly), and made my decision to not contact them or work with them.
Since that time, they have lied about me (even here), tried to discredit me, sent others to try to get info from me (pretend to be my friend and then backstab me), and make people believe I'm something I'm not.
I explained all this to let KD and VM know that if you really do want to help someone that is working for justice, then not backstabbing them, or stealing from them gets you a lot futher with that specific person, or others in the future and trying to discredit them.
One other thing. I will never have a private exchange with either of these women, it will only be public so that anything I say can't be twisted or changed. So I apologize if anyone doesn't want to see this exchange ahead of time.
I'll try one last time to give American Dream a way out of this hole he's in, even though he just implied myself and eyepen are the same person.
AD-I do plan on answering your question in greater detail. FYI, if you go back you'll see I've already addressed this multiple times, but for the sake of time, when I get more time later, I'll answer yet again.
How can you sit there and play innocent like this AD? You are the one who posted the e-mail from VM when VM told the entire RI board that Rachel was a FAKE, she wasnt Boger's daughter and she was an ARG actress who had nothing to do with this case.
I will ask again, WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO PUT VM ON THE HOT SEAT AND MAKE HER EXPLAIN TO YOU AND THIS FORUM WHY SHE LIED TO US ABOUT RACHEL. What she herself misinformed, if so why not say that and restore her credibility? Or did she simply just lie and think that she would get away with it because she thinks we are all too fucking retarded to find out the truth?
I'm puzzled as to when, where and how they all first heard of each other and how the animosity which now exists first began.
This really is not clear to me, and I'm also left wondering how much peripheral people who have some kind of longer history with each other might have been a part of bringing things to the point where they are now.
desertfae wrote:et in Arcadia ego wrote:audioslave wrote:I'll try one last time to give American Dream a way out of this hole he's in, even though he just implied myself and eyepen are the same person.
I'm not speaking to any one person here, but that kinda stuff is what's going to get threads locked one after the other. I'm not actively moderating this forum at this time, but I will tell you Jeff has no patience for accusations against other forum members. So, to repeat what I said in the locked thread, if you have doubts about someone that go beyond their posts making a nerve in your face twitch, please notify Jeff privately and make your case in clear, concise terms.
Arcadia ego,
I'm not meaning this post in a confrontational sort of way at all, so please don't take it that way.
I'm confused by your statement here about why this kind of stuff would get a thread locked, and why Jeff has no patience with this type of stuff. The reason I'm confused is because of the following:
*I was accused of being an actress
*having bad motives in my own case
*I've been hounded countless times to prove who I am, even after I did countless times and offered to meet a member of the forum to show them my ID. Even after it was established that I'm me in countless media reports.
*It's been stated many times by various members that have have some agenda that isn't good
and I could go on and on.
Jeff knew about this, and even seemed to join in (before the news agencies started reporting on it, other than KESQ).
Why is it, that when someone calls out another member that it can get a thread locked, but when all this happens to me, it's just fine and dandy and nobody says a thing?
Again, I'm not meaning this to sound confrontational at all, I just want clarification. Maybe the wording towards me was in such a way that it's allowed whereas this type of wording isn't?
Oh, to those of you that asked me stuff in here, I am super busy today as my internet was having problems since my last post last night. The techs just got it fixed, so I"m in the middle of playing catch up with everything now, and I still have to get in 8 hours of work somehow lol.. so I'm going to have to get the other questions later.
AD-I do plan on answering your question in greater detail. FYI, if you go back you'll see I've already addressed this multiple times, but for the sake of time, when I get more time later, I'll answer yet again.
Rachel
[/quote]I've been thinking about this and I'm realizing I really don't understand the basis of the original rift between Rachel and Virginia and/or Kate.
I'm puzzled as to when, where and how they all first heard of each other and how the animosity which now exists first began.
This really is not clear to me, and I'm also left wondering how much peripheral people who have some kind of longer history with each other might have been a part of bringing things to the point where they are now.
Anyone who has insight or information that is relevant is welcome to share what they've got.
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