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Re: Aurora CO Theater Massacre

Postby Burnt Hill » Sun Jul 29, 2012 1:19 pm

DrVolin wrote:Sadly, the transformation is quite within the realm of possibility. That doesn't mean, of course, that it was unassisted.

Definitely. It fits all the characteristics of a psychotic break.
Doesnt mean there arent other things at play.
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Re: Aurora CO Theater Massacre

Postby 8bitagent » Sun Jul 29, 2012 1:42 pm

Not sure Im buying the Batman massacre was somehow a way to help out Rommytron. If it was some exoteric black op, than it would be a timed strategy of tension to raise the overall anxiety level of the American consciousness ala DC Sniper in fall 2002



Fuck yeah, love this billboard. Just FUNNY seeing conservatives attack Obama for being a warmonger as they almost always support blowing up innocent brown children

Seeing all the liberals in Ameri'duh get upset over this is ironic.
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Re: Aurora CO Theater Massacre

Postby compared2what? » Sun Jul 29, 2012 2:23 pm

8bitagent wrote:Fuck yeah, love this billboard. Just FUNNY seeing conservatives attack Obama for being a warmonger as they almost always support blowing up innocent brown children


It makes more sense when you remind yourself that they're actually just attacking him for being black. I mean, that Barack "Bojangles" Obama picture selection doesn't exactly say: "We hate warmongering." Plus, as you say, they don't.

Seeing all the liberals in Ameri'duh get upset over this is ironic.


I don't know. It doesn't really upset me. But I'm not really a liberal. I don't like it, though. (Mean; ugly; ineffectual as political protest against drones; assigns blame -- and, ftm, cause-and-effect -- to the wrong quarters; generally hateful; etc.)
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Re: Aurora CO Theater Massacre

Postby 8bitagent » Sun Jul 29, 2012 2:39 pm

Things just got meta: Hans Zimmer(scorer for the Dark Knight Rises) has just released a new composition called "Aurora"
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/57302

Next up will be DC Comics special where Batman goes to Aurora CO to help grieving victims and confront James Holmes.
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Re: Aurora CO Theater Massacre

Postby Burnt Hill » Sun Jul 29, 2012 2:44 pm

8bitagent wrote:Not sure Im buying the Batman massacre was somehow a way to help out Rommytron. If it was some exoteric black op, than it would be a timed strategy of tension to raise the overall anxiety level of the American consciousness ala DC Sniper in fall 2002



Fuck yeah, love this billboard. Just FUNNY seeing conservatives attack Obama for being a warmonger as they almost always support blowing up innocent brown children

Seeing all the liberals in Ameri'duh get upset over this is ironic.


Yes, if anything, the billboard will garner sympathy for Obama, most people wont think its a fair comparison.
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Re: Aurora CO Theater Massacre

Postby Hammer of Los » Sun Jul 29, 2012 2:50 pm

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Cannonfire has some interesting comments on this.

The John Jacobson character sure is interesting.

I guess this has already been linked;

http://cannonfire.blogspot.co.uk/2012/0 ... l-day.html

And did someone mention Dave Emory?

http://spitfirelist.com/anti-fascist-ar ... nt-page-1/

Get your spelunking gear on, its a rabbit hole opening fer sure.

It's synching my head off.

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Re: Aurora CO Theater Massacre

Postby Gnomad » Sun Jul 29, 2012 2:52 pm

Burnt Hill wrote:
DrVolin wrote:Sadly, the transformation is quite within the realm of possibility. That doesn't mean, of course, that it was unassisted.

Definitely. It fits all the characteristics of a psychotic break.
Doesnt mean there arent other things at play.


Yes, I have been at hand to witness a psychotic break happen to a couple of people I know, and it looks really bad. Over a few days at the shortest, one can go from a perfectly normal human with bright wits, to a drooling, paranoid psychotic who thinks everyone is out to get them. It felt somewhat scary, and helpless, since there wasn't much you could do, try as you might.

One should not jump to conclusions that are not supported by evidence.
Speculation is another matter.
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Re: Aurora CO Theater Massacre

Postby ninakat » Sun Jul 29, 2012 2:56 pm

What does the Spine Board Tell Us?
July 29, 2012
by Scott Creighton

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. . . So, why the spine board? Why would police want a spine board to detain a suspect and then leave it at the scene afterward?

The answer to that is simple: James Holmes was so incapacitated when they found him, they thought they would need the spine board to transport him. Once he regained some kind of awareness of where he was, not only did he tell them about the traps in the apartment, but he may have in fact been able to get up and into the transport vehicle himself. So the cops just tucked the board under the suspect’s car that he had been lying beside after they broke the window and pulled him out and took the second gas mask off of him.

There may be any number of reasons to use a spine board at the scene of an emergency, but the fact is, it is under the suspect’s car and everyone knew, very early on, that the suspect was inside the car and then arrested beside the car. I seriously doubt some first responder is going to walk up and tuck his spine board under the suspect’s vehicle for safe keeping.

The spine board had to be brought there for the suspect. And that means to some degree and at least for some time, he had to be seriously incapacitated. Seriously enough to call for the board to move him.

Does that sound like the guy who went into the theater and shot 71 people and moved out just as the police arrived 60 seconds later?

Does that sound like the guy who ran the length of the entire building to plant a second gas mask just to confuse us, then ran back, stripped off the equipment, and jumped in the car to be discovered only seconds later?

No.

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Re: Aurora CO Theater Massacre

Postby Burnt Hill » Sun Jul 29, 2012 3:41 pm

I think it would be sop for paramedics to bring the spine board- they wouldnt have to be asked.
That and they didnt use it. How do you get from needing one to not, that quickly?
And tucked away so no one trips on it when it wasnt needed?
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Re: Aurora CO Theater Massacre

Postby seemslikeadream » Sun Jul 29, 2012 6:46 pm

Savage Predator

James Holmes snapped after failing key university exam. Couldn’t live up to his brilliant father.

SCALLYWAG JULY 25, 2012 2


James Holmes said to have sent notebook to psychiatrist with plans before massacre. It sat unopened.

James Holmes may have intended NYC premiere as his initial target. Wanted to kill Dark Knight stars?

It’s believed James Holmes acquired a large cache of arsenal after failing a key university exam leaving experts to now believe that he may have snapped under the pressure of failing to meet the expectations of his brilliant academic father, Robert Holmes.

So distraught was Holmes about failing the key test he dropped out of his Phd program a mere three days later having by that stage made up his mind to commit to his dastardly plan to stage a mass shooting.

Unable to match his father’s high expectations of him, who holds multiple degrees from Stanford, UCLA and Berkeley and currently works as a senior scientist at FICO in San Diego, psychologists are now theorizing that the failure may have have induced a dormant type of schizophrenia to take root.

Offered Marisa Randazzo, a psychologist who studies targeted violence:

‘All of those things could actually make dormant schizophrenia come out, and come out relatively quickly.’

The failure to meet his families expectations of him can perhaps also be linked to the life and neighborhood in which James Holmes grew up in:

dailymail.co.uk: The street is filled with well-kept, two-story houses and most of the children who play sports on the street are those who grow up expecting to be sent to college.

It is a close-knit community where everyone knows each other. Neighbors have said they are ‘floored’ by the accusations against Holmes, who they describe as a quiet ‘brainiac’ from a church-going family.

In context to the background that James Holmes came from perhaps it was inevitable that he chose the course of actions that he did as a kind of self repudiation of his own sense of inability to approximate what was expected of him and perhaps on what some level was denied of him, the permission to not be the brilliant son of a brilliant academic but the equally intelligent son of a talented man who nevertheless possessed degrees of quirkiness, self fixations and aggravated dispositions which when left unchecked and un attended to would eventually lead to a vicious implosion of self…
Mazars and Deutsche Bank could have ended this nightmare before it started.
They could still get him out of office.
But instead, they want mass death.
Don’t forget that.
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Re: Aurora CO Theater Massacre

Postby MacCruiskeen » Sun Jul 29, 2012 6:57 pm

SLAD, why post that pigswill? ^

The cited "expert": Dr. Marisa Randazzo, Sigma Threat Management Associates
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Re: Aurora CO Theater Massacre

Postby Hammer of Los » Sun Jul 29, 2012 7:00 pm

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Mac!

Leave slad alone.

She posts, she don't endorse.

Some of you dumbasses ain't realised that yet.

But yes, that article linked by Slad is full of arrant nonsense.

I have already read by students and course teachers that the "exams" he had just sat were routine, and there was no question of students being failed for them.

So the single fact used as a basis to explain how he suddenly and inexplicably turning into a mass murdering zombie psycho is actually a lie.

The "perhaps it was inevitable" line is especially stupid.

Yeah. It's inevitable when a bright student drops out of a course that the next thing will be a violent mass murdering spree.

Happens all the time.

Inevitable.

Yeah.

Totally explicable.

Lone nut.

Everyones saying it.

Are you saying something different?

Whassamatter wid you?

You some sort of contrarian or something?

Haven't you ever heard of the Asch conformity experiments?

I guess someone needs to go research the "brilliant" father.

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Re: Aurora CO Theater Massacre

Postby Aldebaran » Sun Jul 29, 2012 7:37 pm

Wikipedia wrote:Malay origin

Amok originated from the Malay word mengamuk,[4] which roughly defined means “to make a furious and desperate charge”.[5] According to Malay culture, amok was rooted in a deep spiritual belief. They believed that amok was caused by the hantu belian,[6] which was an evil tiger spirit that entered one’s body and caused the heinous act. As a result of the belief, those in Malaysian culture tolerated amok and dealt with the after effects with no ill will towards the assailant.[7]

Although commonly used in a colloquial and less-violent sense, the phrase is particularly associated with a specific sociopathic culture-bound syndrome in Malaysian culture. In a typical case of running amok, a male who has shown no previous sign of anger or any inclination to violence will acquire a weapon, traditionally a sword or dagger, but presently a variety of weapons are used, and in a sudden frenzy, will attempt to kill or seriously injure anyone he encounters. Amok typically takes place in a well populated or crowded area. Amok episodes of this kind normally end with the attacker being killed by bystanders or committing suicide, eliciting theories that amok may be a form of intentional suicide in cultures where suicide is heavily stigmatized.[citation needed] Those who do not commit suicide and are not killed typically lose consciousness, and upon regaining consciousness, claim amnesia.

An early Western description of the practice appears in the journals of Captain James Cook, a British explorer, who encountered amok firsthand in 1770 during a voyage around the world. Cook writes of individuals behaving in a reckless, violent manner, without cause and "indiscriminately killing and maiming villagers and animals in a frenzied attack." [8]

A widely accepted explanation links amok with male honor (amok by women is virtually unknown). Running amok would thus be both a way of escaping the world (since perpetrators were normally killed) and re-establishing one's reputation as a man to be feared and respected. Some observers[who?] have related this explanation to Islam's ban on suicide, which, it is suggested, drove Malay men to create circumstances in which others would kill them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Running_amok


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Risk factors for running amok


Amok was first described by early European
travellers to the Malay Archipelago in the mid-l6th
century. They described attacks which occurred
without warning, although in retrospect, the assailant
(or pengamok) was often noted to have been quiet
and withdrawn for a few days before. A typical
incident might be a middle-aged male Malay farmer
who, in the course of his usual daily activities
as sitting with friends, would suddenly leap up, keris
(local dagger) in hand, and attack anyone within
reach. The attack would last for several hours until
he was finally overwhelmed or killed. If alive, he
would pass into deep sleep or stupor for several days,
followed by total amnesia for the event (Carr, 1978).
Gimlette (1901) identified four characteristics of
amok in Malaya, based on a single clinical interview:
and the alleged provocation was quite insufficient
prodromal depression; sudden impulsive homicide
followed by a continuing homicidal drive; absence
of personal motive; and subsequent amnesia for the
violent event. Burton-Bradley (1987) believed that a
resolution of the crisis could have been effected during
the prodromal brooding period. He believed that the
amnesia was not total, and that the motivation was
the restoration of self-esteem or "face"
.
.
.
Carr (1978) proposed that amok is a loop
hole option in a society with stringent proprietary rules
and sanctions against confrontation and aggression.
Under certain conditions (e.g. insult to self-esteem)
there is an expectance of amok to restore the person's
integrity. As the perceived insults may have accumu
bled from a variety of individuals, it is not remarkable
that the pengamok should vent his anger against
society. Yap (1969) argued that amok is a culture
bound syndrome produced by a certain system of
implicit values, social structure and shared beliefs
indigenous to a certain area. It is not a disease, but a
behavioural sequence which could be precipitated by
any one of a number of aetiological factors including
physical, psychological, and social determinants.
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Re: Aurora CO Theater Massacre

Postby seemslikeadream » Sun Jul 29, 2012 7:52 pm

MacCruiskeen wrote:SLAD, why post that pigswill? ^

The cited "expert": Dr. Marisa Randazzo, Sigma Threat Management Associates



cause i'm fucked up and don't know what the fuck i am doing....happy now?

did i mention i'm a fuckin' idiot? Thanks to you MacCruiskeen everyone knows the truth now...i'm a worthless piece of shit

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They could still get him out of office.
But instead, they want mass death.
Don’t forget that.
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Re: Aurora CO Theater Massacre

Postby 8bitagent » Sun Jul 29, 2012 8:16 pm

Not trying to poo poo hunches, but google "kony 2012 san diego" to see exactly how a human being can break down into utter crazyness.
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