Pepsi Creates Huge Orwellian Fascist ARG Campaign

[8bitagent]

Check out the new Simpsons movie, chalked full of crazy references.

This is where you lose me. The Simpsons has a long history of really good writing from a lefty sort of side and of subversion.

What I saw in the Simpsons Movie were good morals that, if I had kids, I would love for them to absorb. The bad government, spooks, and cops were after the Simpson family. The "powers that be" were the bad guys.

As far as a "crazy" reference, how bout when Homer has a psychdelic/initiatic vision with the "Boob Lady" where his "self" is literally torn apart and the pieces are held by living tree-beings?

That was awesome, and it reminded me of Tibetan visualizations where one imagines that one emerges from the body as pure consciousness, and then chops up up that body, puts prayers in it, and offers it to suffering spirits as medicine.

It has something to do with the emptiness of self, selflessness, and compassion in action, helping others.

If you think that is in someway bad for people to be exposed to, I feel sorry for you.

What? I agree with you. I totally loved the Simpsons movie.

Hell the Simpsons had a whole episode exposing how the government uses video games and slick ads to snooker in young people to die for their horrible wars.

Also, I love the trippy psychadellic moments in the show. No, we're definately on the same page with this one.

[Joe Hillshoist]

Helping people see whats in front of their eyes is just another ego trip actually.

Only if you tell them what to see.

No, thinking you need to do it, and that you are capable of doing it is where the ego trip is.

There are times when it is appropriate, but they are not as frequent as you might think.

[theeKultleeder]

Helping people see whats in front of their eyes is just another ego trip actually.

Only if you tell them what to see.

No, thinking you need to do it, and that you are capable of doing it is where the ego trip is.

There are times when it is appropriate, but they are not as frequent as you might think.

Ha ha! I think you are doing what you are criticizing in one breath!

Ha ha!

[professorpan]

I think much of the resistance comes from the fact that you are probing into forbidden territory among intellectuals - the use of words to promote the interests of the ruling class. That is a blind spot for us, and threatens to expose our own complicity, and by extension our status and self-identities.

Nonsense. The "resistance" to Hugh's incoherent ideas comes from the fact that they are INCOHERENT. And illogical. And easily disproved.

Add the fact that he is utterly unable to question his own BS, or consider the possibility that he might be wrong, and that's the reason for he catches so much flack.

[populistindependent]

Nonsense. The "resistance" to Hugh's incoherent ideas comes from the fact that they are INCOHERENT. And illogical. And easily disproved.

Add the fact that he is utterly unable to question his own BS, or consider the possibility that he might be wrong, and that's the reason for he catches so much flack.

I understand that this is your view of Hugh's posts, and you could be right. Your contentions that his work is completely without value, that we need to reject any consideration of what he is saying, and that he therefore deserves the responses he gets have not been demonstrated to my satisfaction.

Of all of the various ideas explored here, many of which are no less speculative than Hugh's, his - even if completely wrong - seem pretty benign and harmless, relatively speaking.

[professorpan]

Of all of the various ideas explored here, many of which are no less speculative than Hugh's, his - even if completely wrong - seem pretty benign and harmless, relatively speaking.

I am more annoyed by his behavior than his kooky ideas. People post all sorts of far-out, speculative, wild-ranging ideas -- and that's just fine with me. If I think they are insane, I'll say so. That's how a discussion board works. I get criticized for my posts with great regularity -- and that's cool with me, too.

But when Hugh derails and hijacks threads, dragging non-related topics into "keyword hijacking" territory, he's being obnoxious. It would be no different than me jumping into a thread about the JFK assassination to talk about muscle cars. Over and over again. Despite people telling me I'm off-topic and being disruptive.

I wish he'd get his own forum, or at least his own thread, so the knuckleheads who think he's "onto something" can all play in his delusional sandbox and the rest of us can discuss other subjects in peace.

[orz]

I think much of the resistance comes from the fact that you are probing into forbidden territory among intellectuals

Yeah, just like how Timecube is put down by the evil educators right?

[brownzeroed]

I think much of the resistance comes from the fact that you are probing into forbidden territory among intellectuals

No. I think the "intellectuals" get it.

Pepsi Creates Huge Orwellian Fascist ARG Campaign: to sell more Pepsi.

[populistindependent]

No. I think the "intellectuals" get it.

You put the word "intellectuals" in quotation marks, so I will define my term here.

By "intellectuals" I mean writers, readers, and thinkers, mostly educated, mostly employed in work other than with their hands, and with the luxury of time and resources for pursuing discussions about political and philosophical questions.

[populistindependent]

Of all of the various ideas explored here, many of which are no less speculative than Hugh's, his - even if completely wrong - seem pretty benign and harmless, relatively speaking.

I am more annoyed by his behavior than his kooky ideas. People post all sorts of far-out, speculative, wild-ranging ideas -- and that's just fine with me. If I think they are insane, I'll say so. That's how a discussion board works. I get criticized for my posts with great regularity -- and that's cool with me, too.

But when Hugh derails and hijacks threads, dragging non-related topics into "keyword hijacking" territory, he's being obnoxious. It would be no different than me jumping into a thread about the JFK assassination to talk about muscle cars. Over and over again. Despite people telling me I'm off-topic and being disruptive.

I wish he'd get his own forum, or at least his own thread, so the knuckleheads who think he's "onto something" can all play in his delusional sandbox and the rest of us can discuss other subjects in peace.

OK. People get annoyed with other posters. Understood.

I agree that people shouldn't hijack threads.

[theeKultleeder]

I played the game (for a school project). The game was really boring. It was set-up by a cheesy movie. There were no dark references or occult themes, no insidious subliminal messages. I mean, it in no way prepared me for global takeover by the Illuminati Sorcerers of the Anti-Christ.

Imagine Alex Jones crossed with the Wachowski brothers! Evil corporations rule the world, the "gifted child" rebelliously riding his skateboard with riot-gear wearing police chasing him. An American Indian (in his slick Casino garb) leads him to a magical land, where he will make a soda. A soda that will change the world.

It was just a rip-off of genuinely cool things, and not very effective.

So, again, the biggest affront here is that some important themes have been hijacked to sell soda.

[Joe Hillshoist]

Helping people see whats in front of their eyes is just another ego trip actually.

Only if you tell them what to see.

No, thinking you need to do it, and that you are capable of doing it is where the ego trip is.

There are times when it is appropriate, but they are not as frequent as you might think.

Ha ha! I think you are doing what you are criticizing in one breath!

Ha ha!

Exactly

[orz]

chalked full

Totally OT but I just spotted this. Absolutely not a personal attack, just find this sort of thing interesting. "Eggcorns" like this are proof that more people need to heed Orwell's advice on writing and use meaningful words rather than phrases and sayings to form their sentences.