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barracuda wrote:nomo wrote:They already know who all of you are.
That's probably true, but what's telling about it is they don't seem to care. I've read more subtlely treasonous and outrightly seditious statements on this board than just about anywhere else in my little jaunts about the net.
daba64 wrote:elfismiles wrote:...with all the shit that has gone down here I very often wonder WHO IS WHO.
I've wondered if anyone else here would participate in an open directory of usernames where each of us can include whatever public data about ourselves that others might find useful or helpful in solidifying a REAL TRUST LEVEL.
I'm not sure there's anything anybody could post online that would convince me that I "knew" them and could "trust" them.
A picture of you and a link to your web site(s) doesn't mean you aren't up to no good. In reality, some who couldn't (or wouldn't) provide much documentation at all are in fact eminently trustworthy and some who could provide extensive "proof" could well be up to all kinds of shenanigans. SMiles, what happened to your sig line "'Trust No One' ... especially people you only 'know' from online"? You were right and no amount of pics and links can change that.
Think about it. Paulette Cooper had her close friend, neighbor and confidant Jerry Levin. She cried on his shoulder about being harassed by C0$ and he reported back every word of it to the Guardian's Office. Dorothy Kilgallen had Ron Pataki, her lover and trusted friend. They spoke every day and met whenever they could. And he may well have killed her on behalf of those who did not want her JFK book published.
But I should trust you because of a posting on the interwebs?? Sorry -- I don't think so.
Now granted, I'm not an investigative journalist breaking any big stories. And you're probably not a spook trying to kill me. But that still doesn't mean you aren't up to no good. Smiling faces and all that. If it's all the same to you, I will continue to treat the dreams and vapors I meet online with a healthy dose of skepticism and caution.
Percival wrote:I am not really interested in being personable with folks online, I am here to discuss and debate and thats about the extent of it.
But since you asked my name is Michael, I work for my local newspaper and have been in journalism for the last 15 years. I graduated from the University of Arizona, joined the Navy, saw time in Panama during the capture of Noriega, after my discharge I settled down in Arizona where I currently reside and write for the local newspaper. I am also a professional photographer, which I do on the side as a hobby and to earn extra money.
I like RI and enjoy Jeff's work.
chiggerbit wrote:How about first we see a show of hands from those who have been keeping little black books, entering profile info on posters here, hmmmm? I'd be willing to bet there are a few, and not all members here, some just lurkers.
§ê¢rꆧ wrote:[ § ]
I can be known here by my posts, where I don't worry too much about revealing personal information, because I enjoy making friends in the community, and you have to share of yourself, if you want to make friends. I may have came for the research, sure, but I think I've stayed for the community. I lurked for quite a while before signing up.
OTOH, I do keep personally identifying information out of my posts. Because pairing the personal information with personally-identifiable information is potentially risky, in the long term. Because you can never take it back. No I'm not special or deluded into thinking I'm so important, but... take the What if Danny Casaloro asked you for help? thread, for example:
I'd like to think I'd help him, really, and the more unknown I am to whatever potential enemies there are, the better. I could be more helpful if I'm not a transparent entity online, I think.
In the flesh, I'm usually the one in a mask or covering my face whenever I'm at a protest gathering, and people always razz me about that. It's for the same reason. I've seen the goons out taking pictures of people, gathering intel. Sure they can find out who I am but that's no reason to make it easy
Of course the personal information is more dangerous, when and if it were paired with my identity, because it gives a portrait of my mind. But I don't see any way around that, short of making up an identity and going with that. Which I haven't, because I like the people here, and I don't wish to lie to them.
So, if you searched my posts you'd find out:
I'm a thirty-nothing mostly self-employed male, recently married, not in the greatest health, recently moved to Portland from Chicago. I make websites and play online role-playing games, and I build them too as a hobby. (Yeah, I know that might sound suspicious here, but I assure you I am able to separate reality from fantasy, and I don't play ARGs). I spend far too much time online, and I believe pursuing knowledge for its own sake is a worthwhile occupation.
I grew up where there may have been some mind control stuff on the periphery, my dad was a member of a christian identity cult, and I remember spending summers being indoctrinated with apocalyptic sermons, racist diatribe and bible studies, as well as watching endless videos and hanging around the 'chapel' - but fortunately my mom kept custody of me when my parents divorced and my exposure to it was fairly minimal. I say 'may' because the cult was pretty weird and I was young and not looking for such things, but reading stuff on RI has opened my eyes to the possibility there may have been more to the cult than I saw at the time. At this stage I'm not investigating it because it is kind of painful - my father went batshit insane with this stuff, and I'm disowned by him and have nothing to do with him (the feeling is mutual).
I mostly had rejected the conspiratorial worldview, along with the trash the christian identity cult and my father was peddling, until, well, September 11th.
I chose the name §ê¢rꆧ because I hoped to learn secrets, hidden history and the lore of conspiracies. And I have, but the more I learn it seems the less I know for certain.
I am open to sharing more personally-identifiable information with some members on a case-by-case basis, hell I ordered Jeff's book to my house.
If you need web or graphic design please consider sending me a PM, I will work cheaply and give you my best (especially if you don't send me an i rs form 1099), because I am a poor landless peasant and could use the work, and I've been at it for about 9 years and am pretty good.
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An aside: I'm sorry I suggested you were prof. pan, zap. I don't normally throw such things out, but I had a strong hunch, based on how you showed up and 3/4 of your posts were about sock puppets, and the way you launched the attack on HMW, like someone with a history. Of course later I read there was some history, the teapot story, and I suppose that could account for your vitriol. You know they say you can learn more about someone by the insults they choose to sling. I ask you this, on the sanctity of your username (really all we have here), do you employ sock puppets yourself, or do you have another username on RI?
psynapz wrote:I definitely agree that there's no reason to make it easy for the perps to identify us. With that said, I'll share details which are unlikely to be useful in narrowing down my meat:
I'm in New England. I work on the Internet all day, often for money. I'm not on anybody's payroll, nor am I subject to anyone's blackmail or, as far as I can tell, personally-directed mind control. In other words, I'm nobody's agent but my own, and anything I say online here or elsewhere is just because I want to share in the ongoing unfoldment of understanding.
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I have filmmaking and broadcast video production experience, but I can't decide what of all things floating around in my head to weaponize into a memetic payload of mass instruction. I'm open to any and all ideas.
elfismiles wrote:I don't recall if I realized you were into RPGs and such. I certainly played my share over the years; a lot during childhood but probably even more in my "adult" life. Usually go through phases. And like most gamers I've created my own sci-fi campaign worlds. I still have a huge shelf full of old RPGs including original sets of other games like Paranoia, the Illuminati card game, Car Wars, old D&D adventure modules, rules sets like Traveller, Gama World, Shadowrun and many many more.
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