Israeli media: Mossad assassinated Al-Mabhouh

Moderators: Elvis, DrVolin, Jeff

Re: Israeli media: Mossad assassinated Al-Mabhouh

Postby chump » Tue Feb 23, 2010 8:42 pm

From the Montreal Gazette:
Israel dismisses calls for arrest of top spy

Ronen Bergman, military correspondent for Israel’s Yediot Aharonot newspaper and an expert on Mossad, said whoever carried out the hit was unlikely to get caught.

“The operatives are long gone and the Dubai police has no chance to catch them. They are chasing the wind; they will never catch them,” he told AFP.


Israeli Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman is set to face tough questioning on Monday when he meets European counterparts in Brussels in a trip planned before the Dubai murder.

While some Israeli media have expressed concern the hit placed Israel in the eye of a diplomatic storm, the Haaretz newspaper quoted an official as predicting “the affair will quickly subside.”

Israeli media say Western governments are not mourning Mabhuh.

“Whichever agency carried out the hit, with whatever co-operation from elsewhere, it achieved its critical goals — the target was eliminated and the squad made its escape,” the Jerusalem Post said.
User avatar
chump
 
Posts: 2261
Joined: Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:28 pm
Blog: View Blog (0)


Re: Israeli media: Mossad assassinated Al-Mabhouh

Postby AlicetheKurious » Wed Feb 24, 2010 3:26 pm

Great title, hava.

Many feminist and women rights leaders shifted their political attachment to Kadima, because Livni is ...a woman. So, we have now a peculiar, typically sui generis Israeli, situation, in which the radical left, or the women thereof, are getting their orders from Livni, a former Mossad assassin and a symbol of the miserable condition of women in Israel.


That's interesting, but much more outrageous, from my personal point of view, is the Israeli tourism campaign. You know, the one that exhorts people (men) to visit Israel because Israeli women are total sluts. It's hard to see where "tourism promotion" stops and pimping begins, with those ads. So the government is marketing sex with Israeli women as a tourist attraction, and there's no massive public outrage? You're saying "A Nation of Hired Guns" with indignation, but this is a government that declares, "A Nation of Whores" with pride. You think a citizenry that doesn't mind being openly marketed as a nation of whores, will mind being called a nation of hired guns?
"If you're not careful the newspapers will have you hating the oppressed and loving the people doing the oppressing." - Malcolm X
User avatar
AlicetheKurious
 
Posts: 5348
Joined: Thu Nov 30, 2006 11:20 am
Location: Egypt
Blog: View Blog (0)

Re: Israeli media: Mossad assassinated Al-Mabhouh

Postby yathrib » Wed Feb 24, 2010 6:29 pm

Is this for real?

yathrib
 
Posts: 1880
Joined: Tue May 16, 2006 11:44 pm
Blog: View Blog (0)

Re: Israeli media: Mossad assassinated Al-Mabhouh

Postby AlicetheKurious » Thu Feb 25, 2010 2:03 am

yathrib wrote:Is this for real?


Yes, this is a real ad produced by the Israeli government. Forget about children being burned alive and eaten by dogs, and 3.5 million people fighting to survive under a terrorist, racist regime: We've got HOT WOMEN! In BIKINIS! If you're a horny man looking for an easy lay: WELCOME TO ISRAEL! We'll show you a GOOD TIME!

As if it weren't enough that they are thieves, terrorists, murderers and war criminals, now they're making commercials announcing to the world: we are pimps and Israeli women are whores! Come and check out the merchandise for yourself!
"If you're not careful the newspapers will have you hating the oppressed and loving the people doing the oppressing." - Malcolm X
User avatar
AlicetheKurious
 
Posts: 5348
Joined: Thu Nov 30, 2006 11:20 am
Location: Egypt
Blog: View Blog (0)

Re: Israeli media: Mossad assassinated Al-Mabhouh

Postby smiths » Thu Feb 25, 2010 3:28 am

its even worse because its false advertising,

i spent 6 months in Tel Aviv in 1994 and desperately tried to get together with gorgeous young israeli women and they were the most aloof and dismissive girls i have ever met,
and please dont mis-understand me,
i was not some sleazy dude with cheesy lines and disgusting advances,
i was interested but respectful,

i'm pretty sure most of it was racism. the reason i am so sure of it is that i experienced so much racism in israel that it seems to fit,
although i was not treated as badly as palistinians i was spoken to like shit and generally disrespected on a day to day basis
this of course was a novel experience for a white englishmen and quite a good experience for me
the question is why, who, why, what, why, when, why and why again?
User avatar
smiths
 
Posts: 2205
Joined: Wed May 18, 2005 4:18 am
Location: perth, western australia
Blog: View Blog (0)

Re: Israeli media: Mossad assassinated Al-Mabhouh

Postby MinM » Thu Feb 25, 2010 9:18 am

yathrib wrote:Is this for real?


:fem: Was this ad shot from a hijacked U.S. Drone??? :shrug:
justdrew wrote:just found this, but the show's from January 18th...

a drone operator recounts a tale of a hacked armed drone, taken over by who? we don't know... but it's hard to believe Afghan insurgents would be able to continue controlling the drone via radio after they drove it to Israel. that's right. weird shit.

once the player pops up you can jump ahead to the section titles "Chris" to hear just the drone hacking report...

http://wfmu.org/flashplayer.php?version=2&show=34420&archive=58256

The clip describes using the hijacked Drones to check out Topless Israeli Babes at Metzitzim Beach.
Image
WFMU Pop-Up Player: Too Much Information with Benjamen Walker from 1/18/2010

rigorousintuition.ca - View topic - hacked US drones - a first hand account
Earth-704509
User avatar
MinM
 
Posts: 3288
Joined: Wed Jun 04, 2008 2:16 pm
Location: Mont Saint-Michel
Blog: View Blog (0)

Re: Israeli media: Mossad assassinated Al-Mabhouh

Postby smiths » Thu Feb 25, 2010 10:06 pm

this story is bullshit from start to finish ...

all we know is that Al-Mabhouh is dead,

supposedly the mission of the killers was to eliminate Al-Mabhouh, and indeed if that was the central part of the mission then it was technically successful,
but in most regards it is strange and unprecedented,
- allegedly 29 agents to kill one man staying in a room on his own - absurd
- ten days to go from death by natural causes to brutal murder - absurd
- all of the assassins, filmed copiously and repeatedly going about their work, and then unprecedented amounts of that film released to the worlds media along with full operational details, passport details and the presumed photos of the agents - bizarre and absurd
- western media covering the story in full and persistant detail - unusual
- western governments singing like a choir from the same song sheet, publicly and forcefully rebuking Israel for the operation and the outrage over the use of passports - unprecedented

we are supposed to believe that a veritable tribe of mossad agents, using stolen identities from a wide variety of western governments, bungled the operation to the degree that it has become an international incident complete with tonnes of ready to air video evidence,
and yet ...
those same agents have all disappeared without a trace in different countries since the job was done even though their faces were broadcast and everyone is looking for them,
this in itself suggests to me the agents are intelligent, methodical and have excellent assistance,

i think it was a show,
dubai was asked to play the role of exposer and you have to wonder who controls dubai's actions,
the western governments have all spun the same line so there is clearly collusion and purpose there,
israel has copped a lot of shit, unbelievable amounts of shit
israel is used to being attacked for its actions by many in the west and is indifferent to being cast as villain,
but this smells different,
everyone knows intelligence agencies fake passports, and its plainly obvious that you would spread the fakes over many credible nationalities, and yet there has never been an exposure or reaction like this

i could well be wrong but i think israel was set up on this,
the target was killed as israel would have been presumed to desire,
but that was not the real operation,

the real operation was to discredit and attack mossad and the israeli government
why, i dont know, and by who i could only speculate

but look at the results
the question is why, who, why, what, why, when, why and why again?
User avatar
smiths
 
Posts: 2205
Joined: Wed May 18, 2005 4:18 am
Location: perth, western australia
Blog: View Blog (0)

Re: Israeli media: Mossad assassinated Al-Mabhouh

Postby chump » Thu Feb 25, 2010 10:32 pm

I agree. It seems like a show. Why? I don't know.
User avatar
chump
 
Posts: 2261
Joined: Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:28 pm
Blog: View Blog (0)

Re: Israeli media: Mossad assassinated Al-Mabhouh

Postby 17breezes » Thu Feb 25, 2010 11:12 pm

Well, 3 of the suspects fled to Iran and others to various Arab countries. That might be a big clue.
"Go back to Auschwitz" Humanitarian peace activists, 2010.
User avatar
17breezes
 
Posts: 344
Joined: Sun Nov 15, 2009 9:06 pm
Blog: View Blog (0)

Re: Israeli media: Mossad assassinated Al-Mabhouh

Postby smiths » Thu Feb 25, 2010 11:21 pm

what a muppet you are 17breezes,

how do you know anyone went to Iran, did Daniel Pipes tell you?
the question is why, who, why, what, why, when, why and why again?
User avatar
smiths
 
Posts: 2205
Joined: Wed May 18, 2005 4:18 am
Location: perth, western australia
Blog: View Blog (0)

Re: Israeli media: Mossad assassinated Al-Mabhouh

Postby smiths » Fri Feb 26, 2010 12:16 am

australia's deputy PM says
“Democracies have to be accountable for their actions and we’ll be making sure that Israel is accountable and this is fully investigated.”


and this is from a peice by Greg Sheridan of the Murdoch daily The Australian

Israel has every right to defend itself against terrorists and murderers ... (blah, blah)
But one glaring question out of this debacle is how did it go so wrong. Israel has conducted numerous operations like this, often enough with the co-operation of one or other Arab intelligence agency.
The reach, expertise and stealth of Mossad is legendary in the Middle East, and a substantial part of Israel's overall military prestige.
But this operation has attracted all the wrong kind of publicity and left behind embarrassing video images and evidence of Mossad agents' behaviour.
A smart nation, and Israel is normally among the smartest, does not ever, under any circumstances, burn friends like that.
Canberra has a very close, active and intimate intelligence relationship with Israel.
Many of our top intelligence people go there for consultations and even for special short course training.
It is astonishing to find a circumstance in which the PM is condemning Israel.
To misuse the Australian connection in this way is a very poor show by the Israelis.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/op ... 5834542013

i quote this article not becuase i think the writer is worth listening to but for the opposite reason,
i detest him, he is like a US/Israeli propaganda tube inserted into the Australian consciousness,
from his prestigious podium at The Australian he has promoted every war, atrocity and subterfuge the US and Israel have committed over the last ten years,
its for this very reason that this column of his stands out, its unprecedented

anthony lowenstein a left wing blogger in australia who writes a lot on Israeli/Middle Eastern issues opens today

Unless this is all very elaborate theatre designed to convince the Australian people that the government is furious about the Israeli passport scandal, when in fact, they’re not, I can’t recall another time when Israel is being challenged as strongly in the public arena (and certainly not when Israel is killing civilians in Palestine)

http://antonyloewenstein.com/2010/02/26 ... ike-fools/

No diplomatic niceties softened the message from Foreign Minister Stephen Smith yesterday - if Israeli officials have tampered with Australian passports, ''Australia would not regard that as the act of a friend''. To ensure he was heard, Smith made the point twice.
No Australian government has delivered Israel such a strong warning as Smith and Prime Minister Kevin Rudd have done - not Bob Hawke, not John Howard, both ''long-standing friends of Israel'', as Rudd described himself yesterday.
Remember, Australia backed Israel to the hilt in the Gaza war last year and was one of only 18 countries to vote against a UN investigation into war crimes during the campaign.

http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/this-i ... -p5zx.html
the question is why, who, why, what, why, when, why and why again?
User avatar
smiths
 
Posts: 2205
Joined: Wed May 18, 2005 4:18 am
Location: perth, western australia
Blog: View Blog (0)

Re: Israeli media: Mossad assassinated Al-Mabhouh

Postby 17breezes » Fri Feb 26, 2010 12:23 am

smiths wrote:what a muppet you are 17breezes,

how do you know anyone went to Iran, did Daniel Pipes tell you?


Duh...the Dubai police.

http://www.canada.com/news/Growing+fury ... story.html

:signwhut:
"Go back to Auschwitz" Humanitarian peace activists, 2010.
User avatar
17breezes
 
Posts: 344
Joined: Sun Nov 15, 2009 9:06 pm
Blog: View Blog (0)

Re: Israeli media: Mossad assassinated Al-Mabhouh

Postby smiths » Fri Feb 26, 2010 12:38 am

yeah, the Dubai police, right, it must be true then
the question is why, who, why, what, why, when, why and why again?
User avatar
smiths
 
Posts: 2205
Joined: Wed May 18, 2005 4:18 am
Location: perth, western australia
Blog: View Blog (0)

Re: Israeli media: Mossad assassinated Al-Mabhouh

Postby 17breezes » Fri Feb 26, 2010 12:42 am

smiths wrote:yeah, the Dubai police, right, it must be true then


Yep that's the ticket.

Image
"Go back to Auschwitz" Humanitarian peace activists, 2010.
User avatar
17breezes
 
Posts: 344
Joined: Sun Nov 15, 2009 9:06 pm
Blog: View Blog (0)

PreviousNext

Return to General Discussion

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 10 guests