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JackRiddler wrote: ..Again, the choice may be between sanctioning Israel or watching NATO break up.
MacCruiskeen wrote:
9/11 was such a disaster for the world. It ushered in the 21st century, in which no serious explanations are ever required from any government on the Axis. Demanding accountability - demanding rationality - from your Leaders now counts as lunacy at worst and lèse-majesté at best.
kelley wrote:german exports are flat, and an expanded role in the security of the continent would revive that economy, at least temporarily.
wintler2 wrote:JackRiddler wrote: ..Again, the choice may be between sanctioning Israel or watching NATO break up.
Can't we have both, please?
Or how about NATO occupies the UK to give the Palestinians a nation of their own? Then in 60 years they can occupy Spain to give the Poms a nation ..
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Joe Hillshoist wrote:wintler2 wrote:JackRiddler wrote: ..Again, the choice may be between sanctioning Israel or watching NATO break up.
Can't we have both, please?
SNIP
Man, with logic like that you could be a statesman or a diplomat.
Again, the choice may be between sanctioning Israel or watching NATO break up.
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[Exodus author Leon] Uris…used an amalgam of incidents to display the propaganda war waged by the Jews. Those carrying out this war had two goals. The first was to create sympathy in Britain and throughout the world for Jews who, just a couple of years after German concentration camps, were now being held in British camps. Second, they sought to portray their struggle as being against the British. The British were portrayed as continuing Nazi policies toward the Jews in order to maintain their empire. The Jews were portrayed as anti-imperialists, fighting the British much as the Americans had. It was a brilliant strategy….
The Turkish flotilla aimed to replicate the Exodus story or, more precisely, to define the global image of Israel in the same way the Zionists defined the image that they wanted to project. ..the flotilla was designed to achieve two ends. The first is to divide Israel and Western governments by shifting public opinion against Israel. The second is to create a political crisis inside Israel between those who feel that Israel’s increasing isolation over the Gaza issue is dangerous versus those who think any weakening of resolve is dangerous…
As with a tank battle or an airstrike, this sort of warfare has nothing to do with fairness. It has to do with controlling public perception and using that public perception to shape foreign policy around the world. In this case, the issue will be whether the deaths were necessary. The Israeli argument of provocation will have limited traction. Internationally, there is little doubt that the incident will generate a firestorm…
Israel is now in uncharted waters. It does not know how to respond. It is not clear that the Palestinians know how to take full advantage of the situation, either. But even so, this places the battle on a new field, far more fluid and uncontrollable than what went before. The next steps will involve calls for sanctions against Israel. The Israeli threats against Iran will be seen in a different context, and Israeli portrayal of Iran will hold less sway over the world.
And this will cause a political crisis in Israel. If this government survives, then Israel is locked into a course that gives it freedom of action but international isolation. If the government falls, then Israel enters a period of domestic uncertainty. In either case, the flotilla achieved its strategic mission. It got Israel to take violent action against it. In doing so, Israel ran into its own fist.
I have just created a new Facebook group protesting the Gaza flotilla massacre. I hope you will consider joining and circulate word to everyone you know to ask that they do so. We must rally to demand justice and accountability for the events of last night. Here are the demands I’ve included as part of the group’s mandate:
1. an independent UN investigation under supervision of Security Council with the power to investigate possible war crimes and report results to the Council for referral to International Criminal Court.
2. the U.S. government condemn unequivocally the attack on a Turkish ship in international waters; and join other EU countries in withdrawing our ambassador.
3. Israel immediately end the Gaza siege
4. all flotilla members be immediately released and that bodies of the killed be immediately returned to their families for forensic autopsies to determine the manner and cause of death.
5. all nations whose citizens were killed, injured or detained withdraw their ambassadors until these conditions are agreed to by Israel.
I intend that the group’s members share information, research, events, etc. in order to defeat Israel’s wish for impunity.
Please write to the State Department and White House to echo these demands.
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