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Re: The "911 propaganda onslaught" thread

Postby kelley » Thu Sep 01, 2011 1:35 pm

This is again Berardi on another from of 'tech', relevant to the topic at hand:

"Advertising reasserts at every street corner, at every moment, day and night, the freedom of infinite consumption, the joys of property, and victory through competition. In the '90s, capitalism mobilized an immense intellectual, creative, and psychological energy in order to start the validation process of the collective network. But by imposing an unlimited systematic exploitation on the human mind, the productive acceleration created conditions for an extraordinary psychological breakdown. 'Prozac culture' was another name for the emerging New Economy; hundreds of thousands of managers made innumerable decisions under a chemical euphoria, while they were high from the abuse of psychotropic drugs. Yet the organism cannot take endless ecstasy and productive fanaticism, and at some point it begins to surrender. As happens with patients affected with bipolar disorder, euphoria is replaced by long-term depression hitting the very source of one's motivation: Entrepreneurship, self-esteem, desire, and sex appeal. We cannot fully understand the crisi of the New Economy without taking into account it coincided with a Prozac crash.

Depression comes from the fact that our emotional, physical, and intellectual energy can't bear the rhythm imposed by competitive, chemical, ideological euphoria-inducers for long. The market is a psycho-semiotic space where one can find expectations for meaning, desire, and projection. There is an energetic crisis that affects our energies. Once this crisi exploded, a new effort was made to motivate the depressed Western psychology with a powerful amphetamine therapy: War.

Aggressive suicide, therefore, is not a new phenomenon. Yet in today's context it is terribly more disturbing, not only because anyone who is determined could have access to instruments of destruction, but also because murderous suicide is no longer rare; it has become a spreading manifestation of contemporary despair. Only a sick person would take speed as a reaction to depressive crisis, but the epidemic of unhappiness infecting the world in the epoch of capitalism's triumph has generated a wave of aggression in every area of the globe. At the origin of murderous suicide there is no political reason, or strategic military intention, but a form of pain that affects not only Islamic youth. I am simply saying that the Islamic shahid and the bipolar disorder affecting the Western productive mind are convergent pathologies, two different manifestations of the unbearable pain affecting those who see themselves as competitive, hyper-stimulated winners, and the rancorous ones as desperate and humiliated."

In the wake of 9/11, many of us lived in a perpetual state of low-level agitation while waiting for what was metaphorically known as 'waiting for the other shoe to drop'. It's probably safe to say it fell with a resounding thud in the summer of 2008. Again, Berardi is among the most cogent on what should be seen as these inextricably linked phenomena of global terror, social engineering, and financial catastrophe. The quote above is from another book called "The Soul at Work", which is an ontological analysis of the post-fordist subject as she navigates our brave new world. Oddly enough, Wombaticus, I'd discovered Berardi's writing through Jodi Dean's blog I Cite; she's a colleague of Doug Henwood, I believe. I also read the Berardi book while reading Lanier's "You Are Not a Gadget", which explores similar topics in a different manner. So, cheers! And don't sleep on this guy. Tremendous stuff.
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Re: The "911 propaganda onslaught" thread

Postby 2012 Countdown » Thu Sep 01, 2011 2:24 pm

9-11 coloring book draws controversy

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One image in the 9-11 coloring book shows US soldiers shooting bin Laden.

By Corey Binns

Really Big Coloring Books Inc.

One image in the 9-11 coloring book shows US soldiers shooting bin Laden.
With the 10th anniversary of 9/11 coming up, kids will be exposed to images and stories about the tragedy everywhere: standing in the checkout line at the grocery store, watching TV in the living room, and… coloring pictures?

One new coloring book for sale online has started a major debate. The graphic novel covers the details of that day, as well as the aftermath.

How do you plan to talk to your kids about 9/11? Would a coloring book figure into those plans?

One dramatic picture in the controversial “We Shall Never Forget 9/11: The Kids’ Book of Freedom” shows Osama bin Laden holding a woman in front of him as a Navy SEAL points a gun at him. “Violent imagery can impact thoughts and emotions and increase aggression, nightmares, restlessness, or fearful behavior among children,” says Eric Rossen, director of professional development and standards for the National Association of School Psychologists.

The picture’s paired with a story of how bin Laden turned his wife into a human shield, even though the White House quickly dispelled those rumors.

Wayne Bell, the book's publisher and head of Really Big Coloring Books, told FoxNews.com: “The book was built to educate, not to offend.”

But Rossen says the coloring book isn’t age-appropriate and may also perpetuate stereotypes of Muslims. Amina Sharif, communications director for the Chicago chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, told the Chicago Tribune that the book fails to separate extremist radicals from the majority of Muslims.

OK, despite all of these faults, could the coloring book be used as art therapy to help kids work through their feelings about the anniversary of the terrorist attacks?

Rossen says no, art therapy is typically used for children who are in distress, or experiencing prolonged trauma. But most kids who like to color weren’t old enough, or even alive, to remember 9/11.

“Viewing this book as a therapeutic tool seems to be a stretch,” he says.

Still, books that are age appropriate and stick to the facts could be a good way to talk to your kids about a sad and scary time in our history.

“Children and teens absolutely need to learn about 9/11; some have vague memories or were too young or not born yet,” says Mary Alvord, a psychologist with a private practice in Rockville, Md. “They will be exposed to much media and class discussions around the anniversary date and it’s important that parents and teachers have straightforward, open, and developmentally appropriate discussions.”

Alvord recommends the American Psychological Association and Nick News discussion guide as a good place to start a conversation about 9/11 with your kids.

What do you think of the 9/11 coloring book? Would you, or your kids, be interested in it?

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http://moms.today.com/_news/2011/09/01/ ... ?GT1=43001

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Okay, This particular coloring book has its own RI thread-
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=32863&p=420833#p420833

where we dialogue over the LIES, but now they are being called 'rumors'?
They WANTED us to buy the propaganda story but when called out they capitulate and say 'rumor' is false? That part has gone missing, and this coloring book just reinforced the LIES...and the coloring book guy says he wants to 'educate'?! Maddening!
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Re: The "911 propaganda onslaught" thread

Postby Nordic » Mon Sep 05, 2011 5:45 pm

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Could they have found a whiter, more big-eyed waif?

Why not someone like this?

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No, he's dark, that would never work.

The top one, "portraits of HOPE?"

Like Rope-A-Dope Hope-Man Obama?

Hope, yeah, that's all we have, Hope is the con job.

"Hope you get a job soon! Hope you get your country back! I'm sure if you HOPE hard enough, your dreams will come true!"

I'm gonna start hoping Santa Claus is real. Because, you know, those were good times.
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Re: The "911 propaganda onslaught" thread

Postby 8bitagent » Mon Sep 05, 2011 10:19 pm

Nordic wrote:Image

Could they have found a whiter, more big-eyed waif?

Why not someone like this?

Image

No, he's dark, that would never work.

The top one, "portraits of HOPE?"

Like Rope-A-Dope Hope-Man Obama?

Hope, yeah, that's all we have, Hope is the con job.

"Hope you get a job soon! Hope you get your country back! I'm sure if you HOPE hard enough, your dreams will come true!"

I'm gonna start hoping Santa Claus is real. Because, you know, those were good times.


Well one of the biggest stories of the Safeway massacre wasnt just Giffords being shot, but that 9 year old who was born on 9/11. "Born on a day of tragedy, taken in a day of tragedy" was the sub headline.

I mean look at that sweet innocent angel...just a reminder of why we must never surrender in taking the fight to those cave dwelling Sharia militant camel jockies!
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Re: The "911 propaganda onslaught" thread

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:05 am

Now that polarizing framing imagery makes sense, Nordic. Doesn't it? 'Birth of a Nation Redux' Forever.

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Re: The "911 propaganda onslaught" thread

Postby Nordic » Tue Sep 06, 2011 4:18 am

And of course the extremely obvious one ......


U.S. issues worldwide 9/11 travel alert to Americans


http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/09/02/u ... americans/

I'm almost wishing I hadn't started this thread, there's just SO MUCH of this shit that there's no way I could ever hope to list it all here.
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Re: The "911 propaganda onslaught" thread

Postby Nordic » Tue Sep 06, 2011 4:28 am

Yahoo News has its very own section for 9/11 propaganda!!

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You gotta love that. Even has a picture of an oh-so-empathetic GWB on the top! Oh, the memories! Heartwarming, isn't it?

And the stories, like this one:

PROMISES, PROMISES: US safer, but not safe enough


http://news.yahoo.com/promises-promises ... 27439.html

Hell, no, not safe enough! We still have a FEW civil liberties! We HAVE to get rid of those before we can be PERFECTLY SAFE.
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Re: The "911 propaganda onslaught" thread

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Tue Sep 06, 2011 4:37 am

Thanks for that screenshot.
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Re: The "911 propaganda onslaught" thread

Postby 82_28 » Tue Sep 06, 2011 4:49 am

I am tooooooooo tired to reply in any meaningful sense right now. But let 82_28 log his voice in saying what fucking bullshit on the most recent above. Just utter bullshit, even if it were "terrorists".

Good humans do not want terror of any kind and want only the best for their children, for example. Bad humans do sophisticated psyops meant to confuse.

Ughhh. Way too tired to vent tonight.
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Re: The "911 propaganda onslaught" thread

Postby tazmic » Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:03 pm

Florida pupils recall Bush hearing news of 9/11 attacks:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-14808947

"The president's face turned red - he had a shocked expression," remembers La'Damien Smith, now 18

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Re: The "911 propaganda onslaught" thread

Postby Luther Blissett » Tue Sep 06, 2011 3:08 pm

Nordic wrote:Image


Oi vey and that is a very nice-looking, well-designed site. What a shame.

It's even using Gotham, Obama's typeface.
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Re: The "911 propaganda onslaught" thread

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Tue Sep 06, 2011 3:15 pm

tazmic wrote:Florida pupils recall Bush hearing news of 9/11 attacks:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-14808947

"The president's face turned red - he had a shocked expression," remembers La'Damien Smith, now 18

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LMFAO! Great catch. I was just reading about just that:

http://www.scientificamerican.com/artic ... y-accuracy

How does emotion in a traumatic event like 9/11 influence our memories?

Elizabeth Phelps: Emotion kind of focuses you on a few details but lets you ignore other details. And if you are highly aroused by fear, that emotion helps you store things in your memory better, in a storage process called consolidation that depends on the interaction of the amygdala and hippocampus. But what we've known for a while is that emotion gives you a stronger confidence in your memory than it does necessarily in the accuracy. Usually, when a memory has highly vivid details and you're confident in those details, that means you're likely to be right. Confidence often goes hand in hand with accuracy. But when something is highly emotional, they often get separated.

So if you look at memory for 9/11, pretty much everybody would say, "I know where I was, who I was with," etc. etc. Everyone thinks, "Oh, I never would forget that." But we know from a lot of studies from the past 30 years that people aren't necessarily right. You can't even convince people that their memories are wrong. All you can say is that data would suggest your memory's wrong.
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Re: The "911 propaganda onslaught" thread

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Tue Sep 06, 2011 3:18 pm

Hmm. Timing.

National Propaganda Radio just announced a mass murder in Carson City at an "IHOP."
No, not at an International House of Pancakes. That wasn't said. It was implied with
Just..."IHOP."

As in 9/11 truth versions online known as:
MIHOP - Make It Happen On Purpose
LIHOP - Let It Happen On Purpose

Note that this website is search result #20-
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13. Evidence of a Pancake Collapse of WTC1 - JREF Forum

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14. Humint Events Online: The WTC towers did undergo a pancake collapse!

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Re: The "911 propaganda onslaught" thread

Postby norton ash » Tue Sep 06, 2011 3:22 pm

I was going to make a LIHOP/MIHOP joke in the RI post on the Carson City shooting, but I thought it would be in bad taste.

As you are a something of a scientist, I will let you do it, as we all know scientists are never frivolous dicks.
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Re: The "911 propaganda onslaught" thread

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Tue Sep 06, 2011 3:26 pm

norton ash wrote:I was going to make a LIHOP/MIHOP joke in the RI post on the Carson City shooting, but I thought it would be in bad taste.
.....
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That IHOP 'joke' has been around for years. It is a rerun. Perhaps being revived intentionally.
How many crazies with guns are there to direct into news cycle events? Lots. Just a possibility since there's precedent.
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