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Re: The Canada thread

Postby Jeff » Tue Jun 26, 2012 7:55 am

I hadn't considered this: if the NDP win the Commons, what about the unelected Senate? The party believes it's illegitimate, wants it abolished and refuses to recognize appointments, but until the constitution is amended it's still fucking there, stuffed with Conservatives and Liberals.

It's usually thought of as a rubber stamp, but two years ago it overturned an NDP bill on climate change.

The NDP does not have a single caucus member in the Senate and, were the party to win government, it would be hard-pressed to even introduce legislation in the Red Chamber, since each bill requires a sponsor.

Lillian Dyck, who was appointed in 2005 by Paul Martin, initially wanted to sit as an NDP senator but the party refused to recognize her as part of its caucus, in line with its view that the Senate has no legitimacy and should be abolished. She has since joined the Liberal caucus.

The assumption is that the Conservatives and Liberals in the Senate would not block legislation that had already passed through the House of Commons. To do so would hasten the Senate’s demise. But both parties are packed with veterans in the art of running parliamentary interference and a determined filibuster could bring the NDP’s legislative agenda to a standstill.


http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/201 ... ber-blues/

A reasonable observer would think that using an unelected body to frustrate the will of elected representatives would be going too far, but Harper governs as though he's entitled to go too far once a day.

Talk about a "democratic deficit." Maybe before we have our revolution we need to start with a Chartist movement.
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Re: The Canada thread

Postby 2012 Countdown » Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:09 pm

Using the TPP to Renegotiate and Expand NAFTA
Dana Gabriel
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June 26, 2012

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The Council of Canadians who continue to be vocal opponents of NAFTA and other trade deals that follow the same flawed template, are strongly against Canada’s entry into the TPP. Its national chairperson, Maude Barlow warned that this, “could force Canada to change its drug policies, its copyright policies, its environmental and public health rules – all without going through the normal parliamentary process.” The organization cautioned how, “TPP negotiations could mean up-front concessions in a number of areas, including intellectual property rights, where the U.S. is making considerable demands on TPP member countries that will undermine access to essential medicines so that its multinational drug firms can increase profits.” They also emphasized that, “Supply management, which guarantees fair wages and stable prices for farmers in non-exporting sectors, is too valuable to Canada to sacrifice on a negotiating table.” Others have pointed out that it is important as a buy-local program, as well as key to Canada’s food security and food sovereignty. The Council of Canadians maintains that, “the TPP is by and large a NAFTA renegotiation but on U.S. President Obama’s terms.”

Not surprisingly, the Canadian Council of Chief Executives, an organization that lobbies the government on behalf of the country’s largest corporations, welcomed the announcement that Canada has been invited to join the TPP talks. Its President and CEO John Manley stated that, “By signing on to the TPP, the federal government has taken an historic leap toward securing Canada’s long-term strategic interests in the Asia-Pacific region.” The U.S. Chamber of Commerce have also applauded Canada and Mexico’s entry into the TPP. Its President and CEO Thomas Donohue argued that, “negotiating the TPP together is an excellent strategic decision for North America.” Back in January, the Council of the Americas explained how, “it makes little sense for the United States to enter into potentially significant trade arrangements with countries in the Pacific region without our NAFTA partners.” They view the TPP as a “promising vehicle to support the updating of our bilateral and trilateral trading relationships within North America to the high standards of twenty-first century free-trade agreements.”

In his article, Will invitation to join TPP talks lead to NAFTA 2.0?, Peter Clark one of Canada’s leading international trade strategists concluded that, “A successful TPP would allow NAFTA to essentially be re-opened without the optics of it actually being re-opened.” He went on to say, “The business leaders in all three NAFTA countries, as strong supporters of TPP invitations to Canada and Mexico, understand that after nearly 20 years, modernization of NAFTA is needed. For rules of origin, supply chain management and manufacturing integration.” Clark stressed that, “All Canadians should be clear about this – TPP is the negotiation of NAFTA 2.0 and it could have major implications for Canada-USA trade relations.” Meanwhile, both countries are implementing the Beyond the Border Perimeter Security and Economic Competitiveness Action Plan which has been described as the most significant steps forward in U.S.-Canada cooperation since NAFTA. Christopher Sands of the Hudson Institute observed how, “The TPP negotiating agenda is at once similar to the bilateral agenda that Canada and the United States are pursuing, and also more ambitious and multilateral.”

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http://www.infowars.com/using-the-tpp-t ... and-nafta/

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Canada’s entry into Trans-Pacific Partnership called “humiliating”
By Stuart Trew, Tuesday, June 26th, 2012

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The United States Trade Representative (USTR) is “playing hardball,” he says, and “has brazenly stated that Canada and Mexico will not even be granted observer status at the July or September rounds. Presumably, they will not be granted access to the text either, until after the internal U.S. review period is over…


“This means that during the next two rounds, the nine current members will have the opportunity to reach consensus on areas where they know that Canada has sensitivities, notably agricultural market access, drug pricing, cultural industries, and copyright protection. It also means that U.S. lobbyists, representing everything from brand-name drugs, agricultural exports, motion pictures and softwood lumber, will have a free hand to try to insert their own poison pills ahead of Canada entry.”

Yesterday in the Toronto Star, Michael Geist of the University of Ottawa also commented that, “The price of admission [to the TPP] was steep — Canada appears to have agreed to conditions that grant it second-tier status — and the economic benefits from improved access to TPP economies are likely to be relatively minor since we already have free trade agreements with four of the 10 participants.”

Geist and Sinclair both point out that Canada and Mexico, which were invited to the TPP table by U.S. President Obama during the G20 meeting last week, will not have the veto authority of the other nine TPP members to stop chapters from being closed. Geist offers a concrete example of how that might affect the copyright negotiations:

This condition could be used to stop Canada from joining forces with another country on a tough issue during the late stages of the negotiation. For example, Canada and New Zealand both have copyright terms that last for the life of the author plus an additional 50 years. The U.S. has proposed that the TPP mandate a term of life plus 70 years. While Canada and New Zealand might be able to jointly block the extension, the U.S. could pressure New Zealand to cave on the issue and effectively force Canada to accept the change.

Sinclair ends his article with a challenge to Canadians to reject the TPP negotiations outright:

In its desperate bid to be part of these talks, the Harper government has left Canadians with a clear choice — to take an agreement shoved down our throats by the U.S. and its powerful corporate lobbies or to leave it. Given the obvious costs, the only dignified option is clear.
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Re: The Canada thread

Postby Jeff » Tue Jun 26, 2012 3:57 pm



Radio Canada International journalist Marc Montgomery broke down in tears during his farewell speech to listeners as RCI ended its 67-year history of shortwave broadcasts yesterday. June 22, 2012, was the last day of The Link, RCI's flagship English language daily radio show, which Marc hosted from its very inception in October 2006.

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Once again Harper's government shows that culture has no value and that it's all about oil, ruining the environment and spending money on military...

Canada--hang in there, and get rid of your conservative government.

internet can be blocked/censored. Good luck doing that with shortwave...

Fuck you harper, fuck you, you fucking corporate scum.
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Re: The Canada thread

Postby Jeff » Tue Jun 26, 2012 5:01 pm

And speak of our Senate, here's a real prize:

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Youngest senator has worst attendance in upper chamber

The Canadian Press
Posted: Jun 26, 2012 4:28 PM ET

The youngest senator in the upper chamber also has the poorest attendance record for this session of Parliament.

Conservative Senator Patrick Brazeau, 37, was absent for 25 per cent of the 72 sittings between June 2011 and April 2012, the Senate attendance register shows.

By the end of that period, the Quebecer was four days away from being fined. Senators are allowed to miss up to 21 days in each parliamentary session, without explanation. After that, they can be fined $250 for each day missed.

The records for May and June have not been submitted yet.

Brazeau wasn't just missing from the Senate floor. Between June 2011 and April 2012, he also missed 65 per cent of meetings at the aboriginal peoples committee on which he sits.

He was away for 31 per cent of the meetings of the human rights committee, where he is deputy-chair.

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NDP MP Charlie Angus said Brazeau is the "latest poster boy" for a democratically challenged institution.

"It's surprising that he shows up at all," said Angus. "He's got a gig for life. There's no accountability, there's no censure, he's going to sit there until he's 75."

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http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2 ... dance.html


Senator Patrick Brazeau calls journalist a bitch after she reports his poor attendance record

Jennifer Ditchburn, The Canadian Press Jun 26, 2012 – 4:31 PM ET

OTTAWA — The youngest senator in the upper chamber also has the poorest attendance record for this session of Parliament. After an earlier version of this report was filed, Conservative Senator Patrick Brazeau then went on twitter to voice his displeasure with the story.

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“The very simple answer to your question with respect to my attendance or lack thereof is for personal matters,” said Brazeau, former national chief of the Congress of Aboriginal Peoples.

He did not elaborate, but later posted a message on Twitter directed to this reporter: “while u smile Jen, others suffer. Change the D to a B in your last name and we’re even! Don’t mean it but needs saying.”

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Re: The Canada thread

Postby Iamwhomiam » Tue Jun 26, 2012 7:53 pm

Wow! what an asshole the Senator. I would think the indigenous people will take care of him, after him bringing such shame to them, n all.

I caught the closing comments of the radio show when they were broadcast by some CBC show. Very sad, really. Too bad your government couldn't cough-up the 34 cents it would have cost each Canadian to keep it on air.
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Re: The Canada thread

Postby Jeff » Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:05 pm

Iamwhomiam wrote:Wow! what an asshole the Senator.


If he'd been elected it would be bad enough, but like all of them he's been appointed for life by the PM. There's not even a review process. The only qualification besides toadying to power is the requirement to own land. Seriously.

The first thing Harper did with his majority was kill the public subsidy for political parties. So now our public politics is chiefly about fundraising, which naturally favours those with the funds.

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Re: The Canada thread

Postby Simulist » Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:10 pm

Jeff wrote:If he'd been elected it would be bad enough, but like all of them he's been appointed for life by the PM. There's not even a review process. The only qualification besides toadying to power is the requirement to own land. Seriously.

What!?!

Since you said, "Seriously," I'll assume you're serious — but I'd never heard of this before.

I thought the United States was crazy, but this... Well, let's just say the U.S. isn't the only crazy country north of Mexico.
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Re: The Canada thread

Postby Simulist » Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:26 pm

I just read the Wikipedia article.

Holy shit.
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Re: The Canada thread

Postby Jeff » Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:27 pm

It's not something Canadians like discussing with outworlders. We get funny looks.

Historically, it's been largely an embarrassment of costly protocol.

Because we've usually had Liberal governments, we've usually had a majority of Liberal senators. When Mulroney took power in the '80s he enlarged the Senate so he could name enough Conservatives to form the majority. Harper did the same.

Now, what happens when a party without a single Senator, which wants to abolish the damn place, forms government? I don't know. That's never happened before.
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Re: The Canada thread

Postby Simulist » Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:34 pm

Jeff wrote:Now, what happens when a party without a single Senator, which wants to abolish the damn place, forms government? I don't know. That's never happened before.

Well, if McKenna was right about "infinite novelty," we may just find out. ;)
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Re: The Canada thread

Postby Canadian_watcher » Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:08 pm

I would like to see an elected Senate. back in 2003 CBC did a show called Political Animal - I was close to being selected for the show, but when they interviewed me my main thrust was to make the senate and elected body. I guess that wasn't sexy enough for the show (I wasn't selected in the end). It has never been sexy enough for elections, either.

And now look. Although, as you pointed out, Jeff, Mulroney screwed us with it 20 years ago (isn't it essentially how he got the GST passed, which of course was necessary after they rammed through NAFTA. What a fabulous boon that has been.

I will point out, though, that the Senate did achieve its long-held goal earlier this year: they're abolishing the penny. woo-hoo. :roll:

PS.. did you all get to see Justin Trudeau kick (Senator) Brazeau's ass in the ring a few months back? It was sweet.
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Re: The Canada thread

Postby Jeff » Fri Jun 29, 2012 6:58 pm

Canada's Hard Turn Right

A New Petrol State Has Emerged

Andrew Nikiforuk , 26 Jun 2012

A new petro state has emerged in global affairs and its extreme political behavior has unsettled both Americans and Europeans alike.

For starters, the year-old regime has muzzled government scientists who are now accompanied by Soviet-like “minders” at public events.

It has branded environmentalists as “foreign radicals.”

It has abandoned its commitments under the Kyoto Protocol to reduce atmospheric pollution and effectively has no national plan to deal with climate change.

The state’s Auditor General has accused the government of lying to elected officials and concealing the real price tag for military aircraft: An astounding $25 billion.

More than 30,000 citizens have filed complaints with authorities accusing the ruling party of committing massive electoral fraud during the last election.

The same ruling party has gutted most of the country’s environmental legislation to quicken the approval times for pipelines and other oil and gas projects.

It also proposes to sell its supertankers of petroleum to three highly corrupt state-owned corporations ruled by the Communist Party of China. All comfortably deal with dictators and human rights violators.

Although this petro pirate may sound like Nigeria, Angola, Ecuador or Equatorial Guinea, think again. It’s Canada. That’s right: The northern mining giant that shares a border with the United States. It used to be a polite place – but the country’s gone rogue over oil.

Petrolized by bitumen exports and ruled by a Conservative Party that makes the Republican antics of George W. Bush look tame, Canada has become another dysfunctional petro state in full democratic free fall.

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Re: The Canada thread

Postby Canadian_watcher » Sat Jun 30, 2012 10:58 am

in regards to the ability of federal gov't employees to speak out or otherwise engage in political activities, I have just been sent the current info. Here's some of it:

http://www.psc-cfp.gc.ca/plac-acpl/broc ... re-eng.pdf

You will note that there is no specific info, and even the link they provide for 'more information' is broken. Employees are advised to 'speak with their manager." Note to any other federal employees: If you do speak with your manager, ask for the written law to be presented to you, otherwise it's just the opinion of that manager. Anyway..

I had to sign that I've read this and will abide by it. For clarity, here's a note from the gov't website obviously forcibly put there thanks to the union:

Please note that the Values and Ethics Code for the Public Sector came into force on April 2, 2012, and all federal public sector employees are required to adhere to the Code as a term and condition of employment. Pursuant to section 107 of the Public Service Labour Relations Act, there may be a delay in coverage of the Policy on Conflict of Interest and Post-Employment for employees of some bargaining groups. As a transition measure, Chapters 2 and 3 of the Values and Ethics Code for the Public Service remain in effect for those employees until the collective bargaining process is completed and they are covered by the Policy on Conflict of Interest and Post-Employment.
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Re: The Canada thread

Postby AhabsOtherLeg » Sat Jun 30, 2012 9:02 pm

Canadian_watcher wrote:PS.. did you all get to see Justin Trudeau kick (Senator) Brazeau's ass in the ring a few months back? It was sweet.


What in God's name are you guys doing over there?

Justin Trudeau overcame expectations and convincingly defeated Tory Senator Patrick Brazeau in a boxing bout in Ottawa Saturday night.

The referee called the fight around the middle of the third two-minute round of the Olympics rules bout.

Trudeau dominated round two and round three after Brazeau came out swinging in round one.
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2012/03/31 ... 94122.html


Can you not pass some kind of NAFTA-style agreement to bar wrestlers and MMA fighters from the political arena? Extending from Canada right down to Mexico? Call it the North American Self-Respect Act or something.

Seriously... this is no different to if a small-time political opportunist and attention-seeker of the Lembit Opik type decided to climb in the ring over here.

Oh.... shit.

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Yeah, well, cut it out anyway.

BTW, does anyone know if Harper's an Atlantic Bridger? There's no ocean to cross in his case, obviously, but it would be illuminating if he was a member.
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