What's With Homophobia In Conspiracy Culture?

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Re: What's With Homophobia In Conspiracy Culture?

Postby Spiro C. Thiery » Thu Aug 15, 2013 4:14 pm

Twyla LaSarc » 10 minutes ago wrote:
mulebone » Mon Aug 12, 2013 11:26 am wrote:I find it curious that being wrong once or twice or thrice squared never deters, even for an instant, the conspiracy genius from posting further insights & prophecies that are as empty & pointless & wrong as their last series of insights & prophecies.

I also find it curious that conspiracy truth seekers rarely call out members of their social group for past lapses in reality. They just march onward like the suburban van driving daddy who refuses to stop & ask for directions until everyone is hopelessly lost. I also imagine that this explains why conspiracy theorizing is primarily a male preoccupation. Although, just like with lung cancer, heart disease & hypertension, I'm sure that the women will soon catch up

There is a phenomenon in cult studies regarding predictions and end of the world dates that pass by without happening.

A few people walk away, but many double down their belief and put their money, time and energy on the next date or prediction, becoming more ardent and militant in the process.

Conspiracy theory cult beliefs often dovetail nicely with conservative apocalyptic religious cults. I'd love to compare the numbers, probably be a hell of a venn diagram.

It'd look more like a solar eclipse, I'm guessing.
But as far as the end of the Mayan calendar is concerned, I imagine a change occurred that was so paradigmatic that nobody could tell what had changed because the "world didn't end".
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Re: What's With Homophobia In Conspiracy Culture?

Postby Hammer of Los » Thu Aug 15, 2013 4:27 pm

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Twyla wrote:There is a phenomenon in cult studies regarding predictions and end of the world dates that pass by without happening. A few people walk away, but many double down their belief and put their money, time and energy on the next date or prediction, becoming more ardent and militant in the process. Conspiracy theory cult beliefs often dovetail nicely with conservative apocalyptic religious cults. I'd love to compare the numbers, probably be a hell of a venn diagram.


Eschatology is but an extended death meditation.

It's always the end of some world some where.

But endings are also beginnings.

And perhaps there are at least some new-ish Things under da Sun.

My world has changed a bit lately, fer instance.

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Re: What's With Homophobia In Conspiracy Culture?

Postby MacCruiskeen » Thu Aug 15, 2013 4:42 pm

Next up: What's with profanity in sports culture? After that, stay tuned for: What's with narcissism in fashion culture? And don't miss tomorrow night's: What's with drunkenness in pub culture?

We can keep this up forever, you know. What's with low tricks in high culture? What's with high fives in low culture? What's with penicillin in broth culture? What's with skinned knees in skater culture? And what's with the overuse of the term 'culture' in every conceivable context, but especially in Internet messageboard culture? I think we should be told, and we will be.

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Re: What's With Homophobia In Conspiracy Culture?

Postby elfismiles » Thu Aug 22, 2013 9:27 am

This Homeland Security Employee Is Preparing for a Coming Race War
Abby Ohlheiser /Aug 21, 2013

A Department of Homeland Security employee who works on, among other things, the procurement of guns and ammunition for U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, spends his nights and weekends preparing for a coming race war and advocating for anti-gay causes, according to a new report from the Southern Poverty Law Center. Meet Ayo Kimathi, a.k.a. “the Irritated Genie," who told his bosses at the DHS that his anti-white, anti-gay site, "War is on the Horizon," was just an entertainment site that sells concert and lecture videos.

You see, DHS employees, even those with office jobs like Kimathi's, have to get outside activities approved by their supervisors, according to the SPLC. Kimathi's former supervisor told the watchdog group, which tracks hate speech and groups in the U.S., that despite her former employee's banal description of his extracurricular activities, the actual content of the site left her "stunned." She continued: “To see the hate, to know that he is a federal employee, it bothered me." She added that had Kimathi's site been accurately described to the agency, there's no way the DHS would have signed off on it. Possibly to keep his bosses from looking up his work, Kimathi used only the site's acronym, WOH, in his permission request. In addition to his involvement in the purchase of ICE supplies, Kimathi also had a public profile for the agency, speaking at vendor events. As "Irritated Genie," Kimathi also has a public profile as a black supremacist advocate.

The content of Kimathi's advocacy demands some clarification. In some (white, conservative) circles, the term "black supremacist" is applied with a very wide brush. Black supremacy was the implication of Maine Governor Paul LePage's reported comments that President Obama "hates white people," for instance. Kimathi's site is not in this vein of this imagined threat — on the contrary, War on the Horizon calls Obama a "a treasonous mulatto scum dweller," and lists him among the movement's enemies (also on the list? Oprah Winfrey, Whoopi Goldberg, and Condoleezza Rice, among others) Instead, the DHS employee advocates for:

The mass murder of white people. His site says, "warfare is eminent, and in order for Black people to survive the 21st century, we are going to have to kill a lot of whites – more than our christian hearts can possibly count."

A conspiracy theory arguing that white people are trying to "homosexualize" black men in order to make them more effeminate and therefore weaker. As part of this, Kimathi, praises a series of laws in some African countries that criminalize LGBT behavior and people. Kimathi also advocates for the supremacy of black men above black women — he offers tips on his site, for instance, "to help every Black woman in the world understand what she needs to do to keep a strong Black man happy."

Conservatives don't tend to be fans of the Southern Poverty Law Center: this is the same group that labeled The American Family Association and pretty much the entire anti-Islam movement as hate groups. But their report seems primed to stoke the fires of a set of American conservatives who already believe the DHS is hoarding ammunition (contrary to the evidence), either to build a secret army, or to prevent gun owners from accessing it.

Update: ICE's Deputy Press Secretary Gillian Christensen responded in a statement to this story:

ICE does not condone any type of hateful rhetoric or advocacy of violence of any kind against anyone. Every ICE employee is held to the highest standard of professional and ethical conduct. Accusations of misconduct are investigated thoroughly and if substantiated, appropriate action is taken.

Christensen declined to comment, as a matter of ICE policy, on whether the agency was currently investigating Kimathi or not.

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national ... ior/68600/
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Re: What's With Homophobia In Conspiracy Culture?

Postby American Dream » Thu Aug 22, 2013 10:14 am

elfismiles » Thu Aug 22, 2013 8:27 am wrote:
This Homeland Security Employee Is Preparing for a Coming Race War
Abby Ohlheiser /Aug 21, 2013

A Department of Homeland Security employee who works on, among other things, the procurement of guns and ammunition for U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, spends his nights and weekends preparing for a coming race war and advocating for anti-gay causes, according to a new report from the Southern Poverty Law Center. Meet Ayo Kimathi, a.k.a. “the Irritated Genie," who told his bosses at the DHS that his anti-white, anti-gay site, "War is on the Horizon," was just an entertainment site that sells concert and lecture videos.

You see, DHS employees, even those with office jobs like Kimathi's, have to get outside activities approved by their supervisors, according to the SPLC. Kimathi's former supervisor told the watchdog group, which tracks hate speech and groups in the U.S., that despite her former employee's banal description of his extracurricular activities, the actual content of the site left her "stunned." She continued: “To see the hate, to know that he is a federal employee, it bothered me." She added that had Kimathi's site been accurately described to the agency, there's no way the DHS would have signed off on it. Possibly to keep his bosses from looking up his work, Kimathi used only the site's acronym, WOH, in his permission request. In addition to his involvement in the purchase of ICE supplies, Kimathi also had a public profile for the agency, speaking at vendor events. As "Irritated Genie," Kimathi also has a public profile as a black supremacist advocate.

The content of Kimathi's advocacy demands some clarification. In some (white, conservative) circles, the term "black supremacist" is applied with a very wide brush. Black supremacy was the implication of Maine Governor Paul LePage's reported comments that President Obama "hates white people," for instance. Kimathi's site is not in this vein of this imagined threat — on the contrary, War on the Horizon calls Obama a "a treasonous mulatto scum dweller," and lists him among the movement's enemies (also on the list? Oprah Winfrey, Whoopi Goldberg, and Condoleezza Rice, among others) Instead, the DHS employee advocates for:

The mass murder of white people. His site says, "warfare is eminent, and in order for Black people to survive the 21st century, we are going to have to kill a lot of whites – more than our christian hearts can possibly count."

A conspiracy theory arguing that white people are trying to "homosexualize" black men in order to make them more effeminate and therefore weaker. As part of this, Kimathi, praises a series of laws in some African countries that criminalize LGBT behavior and people. Kimathi also advocates for the supremacy of black men above black women — he offers tips on his site, for instance, "to help every Black woman in the world understand what she needs to do to keep a strong Black man happy."

Conservatives don't tend to be fans of the Southern Poverty Law Center: this is the same group that labeled The American Family Association and pretty much the entire anti-Islam movement as hate groups. But their report seems primed to stoke the fires of a set of American conservatives who already believe the DHS is hoarding ammunition (contrary to the evidence), either to build a secret army, or to prevent gun owners from accessing it.

Update: ICE's Deputy Press Secretary Gillian Christensen responded in a statement to this story:

ICE does not condone any type of hateful rhetoric or advocacy of violence of any kind against anyone. Every ICE employee is held to the highest standard of professional and ethical conduct. Accusations of misconduct are investigated thoroughly and if substantiated, appropriate action is taken.

Christensen declined to comment, as a matter of ICE policy, on whether the agency was currently investigating Kimathi or not.

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national ... ior/68600/


That shit is so over the top that you have to wonder whether this DHS employee was actually running an approved op...
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Re: What's With Homophobia In Conspiracy Culture?

Postby 8bitagent » Thu Aug 22, 2013 7:19 pm

homophobia in conspiracy culture: check some of the ugly comments re: Manning coming out as a woman
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Re: What's With Homophobia In Conspiracy Culture?

Postby 8bitagent » Thu Aug 22, 2013 8:17 pm

FUCK YES!

RT and Russia CALLED OUT on their bullshit live on TV. OMG this is so good


Between manning coming out as a woman, Greenwald's boyfriend being wrongfully detained
and this; I think it's good LGBT issues are finally being discussed amidst the stage of world
politics.
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Re: What's With Homophobia In Conspiracy Culture?

Postby Spiro C. Thiery » Fri Aug 23, 2013 4:42 am

8bitagent » Today, 02:17 wrote:FUCK YES!

Between manning coming out as a woman, Greenwald's boyfriend being wrongfully detained
and [RT and Russia CALLED OUT on their bullshit live on TV] I think it's good LGBT issues are finally being discussed amidst the stage of world
politics.


I disagree. I wouldn't exactly say that the issues are being "discussed". I think the issues are being used in the kayfabe of deep politics, to gather LGBT support for any number of issues while distracting from any number of others and, hence, gaining support for the whole package and dividing otherwise like-minded people.

It's important to remember that homosexuals, too, can be or be sympathetic to the fascist cause, either actively, or passively as a result of a being duped into believing that they are supporting some kind of bulwark alternative politically.

Putin's recent anti-gay legislation seems waaaaaay to convenient to me, as does Snowden's/Greenwald/Kremlin getting so much coverage vs Manning.

The only real takeaway I see from all this wrangling is that the "Obama is the first gay president" meme has all but trumped and buried the current administration's war crimes in national sentiment.

I certainly do not begrudge this guy's rant, but at the end of the day, it's just more fodder for Facebook bickering. Not really a discussion, if you ask me.
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