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Postby seemslikeadream » Sun Aug 17, 2014 9:07 am

One shot, 7 arrested in fresh outbreak of violence in Ferguson


By Ernie Suggs
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
FERGUSON, Mo. — At least one person was shot and seven were arrested early Sunday in Ferguson as a small group of protesters resisted a strict midnight-to-5 a.m. curfew imposed Saturday by the governor.
Police employed tear gas fired from armored vehicles to disperse the demonstrators — hours after officials said that that level of force would not be needed.
But about 30 minutes into the curfew, a clash broke out between riot gear-clad police officers and an isolated group of protesters who were not leaving the area. As the group approached a phalanx of officers, they chanted the name of Michael Brown, the teenager whose killing last Saturday by a Ferguson police officer has launched a week’s worth of protests, demonstrations and sometimes looting and violence.
“I can tell you that I was disappointed in the actions of tonight,” said Missouri State Highway Patrol commander Capt. Ronald Johnson, in a 3 a.m. press conference.
In the pouring rain Sunday morning, a police officer repeatedly told the marchers that they were “violating the state-imposed curfew.”
“We were trying to give them every opportunity to comply with the curfew,” Johnson said later.
Finally, several canisters of smoke bombs and tear gas was lobbed into the crowd.
The nearly hour-long clash resulted in the arrest of seven people, said Johnson, who was put in charge of policing the community on Thursday. They were charged with failure to disperse.
Johnson, who had said earlier in the day that force would not be used, later justified its use.
He said the tear gas was used because police learned that several armed men were holed up inside of a restaurant. Johnson said one of the men moved into the middle of the street, but escaped. Another unidentified man was shot and taken by friends to the hospital, where he is in critical condition.
Johnson added that a police car was also fired upon, but it was unclear whether ,it was hit.
Earlier on Saturday, Alpha Phi Alpha Fraternity, whose members included Thurgood Marshall and Martin Luther King Jr., announced their intentions of paying for Brown’s funeral. Brown, 18, was to have started his first year of college last Monday.
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Postby 8bitagent » Sun Aug 17, 2014 8:04 pm

The anger and rage is more than understandable. According to many witnesses, it was pretty much an execution. The cop apparently even after Brown was on the ground laying lifeless, still pumping bullets into him.
Here his executed body lay lifeless with a trail of blood in the street for hours, as residents start gathering and visibly upset.
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Re: St Louis - Shooting - Riots - Anonymous Threats

Postby freemason9 » Sun Aug 17, 2014 9:43 pm

MayDay » Sat Aug 16, 2014 4:10 pm wrote:

What is this, the fox news comment section?


sorry to disrupt the concert.
The real issue is that there is extremely low likelihood that the speculations of the untrained, on a topic almost pathologically riddled by dynamic considerations and feedback effects, will offer anything new.
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Postby freemason9 » Sun Aug 17, 2014 9:47 pm

BrandonD » Sat Aug 16, 2014 7:38 pm wrote:
MayDay » Sat Aug 16, 2014 4:10 pm wrote:

What is this, the fox news comment section?


Lol, I'm glad to know we have representation here for white America and his fear of the scary black man - God knows that demographic really doesn't have a voice.


Oh, I see we have a dutiful Liberal here. That's only marginally better than the flipside of the coin--the dutiful Conservative.

I have an ancestor that lost his land in North Carolina because of the color of his skin and Andrew Jackson's presidency. So FU.
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Postby TheDuke » Sun Aug 17, 2014 10:35 pm

From a conservative website:

http://www.ijreview.com/2014/08/168698- ... -shooting/

A previously unnoticed detail in a background conversion of a video taken minutes after the Ferguson shooting could change the course of the investigation into Mike Brown’s death.
The original video poster appears sympathetic to the narrative that Mike Brown was shot unarmed with his hands in the air. But he unknowingly picks up conversation between a man who saw the altercation and another neighbor.
An approximate transcription of the background conversation, as related by the “Conservative Treehouse” blog, who originally discovered the conversation:
@6:28/6:29 of video
#1 How’d he get from there to there?
#2 Because he ran, the police was still in the truck – cause he was like over the truck
{crosstalk}
#2 But him and the police was both in the truck, then he ran – the police got out and ran after him
{crosstalk}
#2 Then the next thing I know he doubled back toward him cus - the police had his gun drawn already on him –
[there is dispute here whether he says "doubled back" or "coming back."]
#1. Oh, the police got his gun
#2 The police kept dumpin on him, and I’m thinking the police kept missing – he like – be like – but he kept coming toward him
{crosstalk}
#2 Police fired shots – the next thing I know – the police was missing
#1 The Police?
#2 The Police shot him
#1 Police?
#2 The next thing I know … I’m thinking … the dude started running … (garbled something about “he took it from him”)
This is terribly important because if Mike Brown had been shot, and he advanced towards the cop instead of surrendering, it would substantiate the narrative that the policeman shot in self-defense due to the fact that he was being threatened with severe bodily harm. This corroborates an account of the event given by a friend of Officer Darren Wilson:
Well, then Michael takes off and gets to be about 35 feet away. And, Darren’s first protocol is to pursue. So, he stands up and yells, “Freeze!” Michael and his friend turn around. And Michael taunts him… And then all the sudden he just started bumrushing him. He just started coming at him full speed. And, so he just started shooting. And, he just kept coming. And, so he really thinks he was on something.”
It’s far too unlikely that these two accounts are similar accidentally, having been from such disparate sources. The apparent witness in the background conversation is speaking with detail about the tragic shooting, and in a manner that runs contrary to the widespread version. Those who watch the video need to judge for themselves if the witness sounds reliable (but he would seemingly have nothing to gain by telling such a story.)
A third piece of the puzzle would be the toxicology report. If there happens to be anything found that might explain how Mike Brown might have been shot and kept advancing toward the officer, then the defense becomes even more believable. Unless someone is emotionally invested in an alternative narrative to the extent that one might ignore plain facts.
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Postby seemslikeadream » Sun Aug 17, 2014 10:57 pm

Tiffany Mitchell: Eyewitness To Brown Ferguson-Police 'Lynching' Tells Her Story (1/4)

Tiffany Mitchell: Eyewitness To Brown Ferguson-Police 'Lynching' Tells Her Story (2/4)

Tiffany Mitchell: Eyewitness To Brown Ferguson-Police 'Lynching' Tells Her Story (3/4)

Tiffany Mitchell: Eyewitness To Brown Ferguson-Police 'Lynching' Tells Her Story (4/4)


Eyewitness To Michael Brown Shooting in Ferguson from msnbc


Lawyer: Store didn't call cops on Michael Brown

The Ferguson Market where Brown allegedly stole from Saturday says it remains committed to the community and it hopes the community will remain committed to it.

Stephanie Diffin, KSDK 11:05 p.m. CDT August 15, 2014

FERGUSON, Mo. - The Ferguson Market where Brown allegedly stole from Saturday says it remains committed to the community and it hopes the community will remain committed to it. The market's attorney says it has been in the Ferguson community for many years and is the type of place where customers and employees all know one another. Friday, the market's attorney said the owners intend to keep it that way.

Former Ferguson resident Shaneis Hubbard used to work just a couple of doors down from the market and would visit it almost every day. She stopped by Friday to see for herself what the market would say about the surveillance video that allegedly caught Michael Brown stealing from the store, not long before he was killed.

"Regardless of the petty crime he was allegedly involved in, nobody deserves to be gunned down like that, nobody; white, black, other, nobody," she said.

The store's owners, through their attorney, sent the message that they want to stay as far away from the situation as possible. In fact, he said, even after the initial alleged theft, it was a customer who called police.

"It's not about them. They didn't call the police, they didn't ask the police to come and take the video," said attorney Jay Kanzler.


The attorney for a convenience store where a Missouri teenager allegedly stole cigars before he was shot by police says a customer, not store workers, called police. KSDK

Now, the Ferguson Market owners are hoping the video won't make them a target.

"They would hope that the people of this community, who have consistently supported them, would continue to support them, and realize that whatever the police are looking at on the surveillance tapes has nothing to with what went on in the streets," said Kanzler.
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Postby justdrew » Sun Aug 17, 2014 11:24 pm

TheDuke » 17 Aug 2014 18:35 wrote:From a conservative website:

http://www.ijreview.com/2014/08/168698- ... -shooting/

A previously unnoticed detail in a background conversion of a video taken minutes after the Ferguson shooting could change the course of the investigation into Mike Brown’s death.
The original video poster appears sympathetic to the narrative that Mike Brown was shot unarmed with his hands in the air. But he unknowingly picks up conversation between a man who saw the altercation and another neighbor.
An approximate transcription of the background conversation, as related by the “Conservative Treehouse” blog, who originally discovered the conversation:
@6:28/6:29 of video
#1 How’d he get from there to there?
#2 Because he ran, the police was still in the truck – cause he was like over the truck
{crosstalk}
#2 But him and the police was both in the truck, then he ran – the police got out and ran after him
{crosstalk}
#2 Then the next thing I know he doubled back toward him cus - the police had his gun drawn already on him –
[there is dispute here whether he says "doubled back" or "coming back."]
#1. Oh, the police got his gun
#2 The police kept dumpin on him, and I’m thinking the police kept missing – he like – be like – but he kept coming toward him
{crosstalk}
#2 Police fired shots – the next thing I know – the police was missing
#1 The Police?
#2 The Police shot him
#1 Police?
#2 The next thing I know … I’m thinking … the dude started running … (garbled something about “he took it from him”)
This is terribly important because if Mike Brown had been shot, and he advanced towards the cop instead of surrendering, it would substantiate the narrative that the policeman shot in self-defense due to the fact that he was being threatened with severe bodily harm. This corroborates an account of the event given by a friend of Officer Darren Wilson:
Well, then Michael takes off and gets to be about 35 feet away. And, Darren’s first protocol is to pursue. So, he stands up and yells, “Freeze!” Michael and his friend turn around. And Michael taunts him… And then all the sudden he just started bumrushing him. He just started coming at him full speed. And, so he just started shooting. And, he just kept coming. And, so he really thinks he was on something.”
It’s far too unlikely that these two accounts are similar accidentally, having been from such disparate sources. The apparent witness in the background conversation is speaking with detail about the tragic shooting, and in a manner that runs contrary to the widespread version. Those who watch the video need to judge for themselves if the witness sounds reliable (but he would seemingly have nothing to gain by telling such a story.)
A third piece of the puzzle would be the toxicology report. If there happens to be anything found that might explain how Mike Brown might have been shot and kept advancing toward the officer, then the defense becomes even more believable. Unless someone is emotionally invested in an alternative narrative to the extent that one might ignore plain facts.


sounds like a bunch of bullshit to me, probably someone overdubbed the video and uploaded it.



On August 9, at around 12:00 p.m., Brown and friend Dorian Johnson were walking to Brown's grandmother's house.[12][29] Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson[30][31] drove up to them and ordered them to move off the street and onto the sidewalk. An altercation ensued and a shot was fired from within Wilson's police vehicle, after which Brown and Johnson began to flee.[32]. Wilson left his vehicle and pursued them, then fired an unspecified number of shots, fatally wounding Brown. Brown died approximately 35 feet (11 m) from the police cruiser in the 2900 block of Canfield Drive.[12] According to CNN correspondent Ana Cabrera, documents show that less than three minutes passed from the time that Wilson encountered Brown to the time of Brown's death.[


police never left the vehicle, was it a "truck"? do police there run around in a 'truck' ? I doubt it. No time for Brown to have been put in any 'truck' - just a racist rightwing retard site spreading lies.
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Postby seemslikeadream » Sun Aug 17, 2014 11:35 pm

NYT reporting Brown shot 6 times

twice in head

4 times in right arm


Autopsy Shows Michael Brown Was Struck at Least 6 Times
By FRANCES ROBLES and JULIE BOSMANAUG. 17, 2014

Image
Part of a preliminary private autopsy report by Dr. Baden and Professor Parcells showing wounds on Mr. Brown’s body. Credit Dr. Michael M. Baden

FERGUSON, Mo. — Michael Brown, the unarmed black teenager who was killed by a police officer, sparking protests around the nation, was shot at least six times, including twice in the head, a preliminary private autopsy performed on Sunday found.

One of the bullets entered the top of Mr. Brown’s skull, suggesting his head was bent forward when it struck him and caused a fatal injury, according to Dr. Michael M. Baden, the former chief medical examiner for the City of New York, who flew to Missouri on Sunday at the family’s request to conduct the separate autopsy. It was likely the last of bullets to hit him, he said.

Mr. Brown, 18, was also shot four times in the right arm, he said, adding that all the bullets were fired into his front.


The bullets did not appear to have been shot from very close range because no gunpowder was present on his body. However, that determination could change if it turns out that there is gunshot residue on Mr. Brown’s clothing, to which Dr. Baden did not have access.
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Postby TheDuke » Mon Aug 18, 2014 1:12 am

justdrew » Sun Aug 17, 2014 10:24 pm wrote:


sounds like a bunch of bullshit to me, probably someone overdubbed the video and uploaded it.




police never left the vehicle, was it a "truck"? do police there run around in a 'truck' ? I doubt it. No time for Brown to have been put in any 'truck' - just a racist rightwing retard site spreading lies.


You could be right but how I read the article was that the video was originally uploaded with the audio......it's not even proof of anything but if it's authentic then it does cast doubt on the execution style shooting story.
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Postby justdrew » Mon Aug 18, 2014 1:33 am

TheDuke » 17 Aug 2014 21:12 wrote:
justdrew » Sun Aug 17, 2014 10:24 pm wrote:
sounds like a bunch of bullshit to me, probably someone overdubbed the video and uploaded it.

police never left the vehicle, was it a "truck"? do police there run around in a 'truck' ? I doubt it. No time for Brown to have been put in any 'truck' - just a racist rightwing retard site spreading lies.


You could be right but how I read the article was that the video was originally uploaded with the audio......it's not even proof of anything but if it's authentic then it does cast doubt on the execution style shooting story.


well, wikipedia's sources are saying the cop was inside his vehicle.

as to the video in question... it's a simple matter to download a video from youtube and replace the audio and upload it again under a different account name.

I would like to know who is paying rightwing sites like that to generate professional grade psiop material on demand designed to polarize. I don't believe it's a hobby.

though in this case it appears the video is hosted on a 'real' account.

anyway, I think this witness is a lot more credible than some random off-camera voice. This cops behavior is inexcusable and even had no bullets been fired, grabbing a person by the neck from inside a car should have been grounds for discipline.

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Postby 8bitagent » Mon Aug 18, 2014 4:05 am

BUT DON'T YOU KNOW! Hamas' charter is the destruction of israel and uses human shields. There's no REAL consensus on global warming and
climate change...and And that Michael Brown robbed a convenient store minutes before! So of course he was chasing after a cop like
a demented grizzly bear...why, we know 1000% Trayvon did the same thing!

Young teenage black kids love to chase white guys pointing guns at them.
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Postby 82_28 » Mon Aug 18, 2014 7:13 am

Missouri: I think it's crazy there. I have numerous stories. Actually I do. I've seen shit go down there that I haven't seen anywhere before. Almost 20 years ago I was at a bar in downtown St. Louis during the day and the whole place broke out into a brawl. I have never seen anything like it. It was a bunch of white kids, but there does seem to be something "tense" there, from my memories. Do we have any RI members from MO?

Last year I had some guy I had to cut off at the bar who was from St. Louis and he had to make it known. I said I didn't give a fuck whether he was from St. Louis or not. You're in Seattle now and no, I'm not serving you. Straight up in my face. Luckily I was able to kick him out without further incident.

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Postby seemslikeadream » Mon Aug 18, 2014 10:48 am

Michael Brown's family press conference starting now

autopsy results confirm eye witness accounts
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Postby Luther Blissett » Mon Aug 18, 2014 12:10 pm

82_28 » Mon Aug 18, 2014 6:13 am wrote:Do we have any RI members from MO?


I have two friends, one in a suburb of STL, the other in University City, both of whom are attending the protests in Ferguson.

That audio upthread is total bullshit. Michael Brown didn't have a gun, the store owner denied a robbery or altercation took place, etc etc. This is a militarized police force of Konfederate Kops jumping at a jaywalker on a summer afternoon.

I can't recommend enough observing via twitter and live feeds at night once curfew approaches. The cops were firing tear gas at vigils, crowds, the men and women guarding the local businesses from the white looters, etc. two hours before curfew.
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Postby American Dream » Mon Aug 18, 2014 1:24 pm

I'm so sick of dehumanizing and racist mass media spin:


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