Who is John Podesta?

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Re: Who is John Podesta?

Postby chump » Sat Nov 12, 2016 7:30 pm

Wha-at!!

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https://youtu.be/PSKsawfSbkE



Actually, Thanks for the daylight saving's Sunday delight...



https://youtu.be/9fat63bqvG8

Abby Martin is m-m-m, so perky! How does one earn the nickname Jerky?


Before I copped the clip at the top of the OP, I could hardly recall the cocky coordinator of Clinton's campaign! Who the hell is Johnathon P? Though potentially a part of his personnel programming, Pedesto's impractical perversions are beside the point... Considering the company he's supposedly keeping - and his apparent connections to organized criminal governmental activity, his keenest accomplishment appears to be - no one's aware of what he's doing!!


https://youtu.be/9fat63bqvG8
(Imperfect) Transcript: of Abby Martin Exposes John Podesta:

While John Podesta is treated as Clinton supporter who had his privacy unjustly exposed, he's actually one of the most powerful people in Washington, operating mostly behind the scenes... Until now.

John and his brother Tony are considered two of the most influential corporate lobbyists in the world. John has beened dubbed "One of Washington's biggest players" by the New York Times, whose clients "are going to get a blueprint on how to succeed in official Washington." He is much more than just a millionaire lobbyist. He's also been the man behind Bill Clinton, Barrack Obama, and HIllary Clinton. The Washngton Post praised his politcal experience, saying, "... no single person may be more responsible for shaping the ambitions of Obama's second term" than he.

Politics is like sausage being made. It is unsavory, and it is always been that way, but we usually end up where we want to be. But, if everybody’s watching, you know, all the backroom discussions and the deals, you know, the people get a little nervous to say the last. So, you need both a public and a private position
Clinton speech to National Multi-Housing Council 4/24/13


The United ruling is that super-pacs and non-profits must remain independent of campaigns, yet e-mails prove that Correct the Record is just another multi-million dollar arm of the Clinton campaign, making contributions between a super-pac and a campaign indistinquishable. This short sampling of the Podesta e-mail trove is alone a major expose of the true character of Hillary Clinton; but beyond that, understanding who John Podesta is, and his understanding his political rise, sheds light on who really pulls the levers of power in our society.

John and his brother/partner Tony have been rooted in the elite circles of American politics. Their mother Mary Podesta was a well known fundraiser at the center of the political scene. The Washington Post described her as "... a staple at political dinners whose home cooked dinner parties "raised millions of dollars for candidates."

The Podesta brothers would employ the same network building style, with personas that reflect their high society characteristics. They're also both known for their fine dining culinary skills, and deal making dinner parties. Both are collectors of fine art...

Through the 70's, the Podesta's began building their political rep. John first befriended Bill Clinton as an undergrad in college. Both brothers worked for democratic party campaigns in thier younger years but their political connections also became business connections...

Having accumulated a wide network of business and political insiders the up and coming brothers founded the corporate lobbying firm Podesta Associates, known today as the Podesta Group, in 1987.

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The brothers relationship functions like different arms of the corporate lobbying beast. John's career put him inside the government, while Tony's focused on the business side. The same year the brothers debuted their lobbying firm, John became Chief Council for the Senate Agricultural Committee. Who was Podestas' first corporate client? Genentech, a biotech company that had a lot to gain from deregulating the agricultural industry. The Podesta Group then became the lead group for the massive deregulation of the FDA on behalf of Genentech and other corporations. After Podesta was promoted by Bill to his Deputy Chief of Staff in 1997, he and his brother's firm achieved another major victory. The Clinton Admiinistration signed the deregulation act the Podestas had been lobbying for. Podesta's power rose as he proved his loyalty tothe Clinton team, becoming the clean-up guy for the Clinton's many shady scandels. Other than Bill Clinton's sex scandels , of which there were many, John Podesta found himself building the experience that the Clinton Partnership would need - covering up their financial tricks and insider dealings.

There was HIllary's insider trading scandel where it was discovered she used her powerful connections to turn a cool hundred grand. She was aided by a Tyson executive in an apparent exchange for millions of state funds, awarded to the corporation by Gov. Bill Clinton, breaking many legal rules, turning $1000 into $100,000 overnight! When the scheme was uncovered, Podesta was called in to bury it. And then there was Whitewater, when both Bill and Hillary were subpoenaed, after BIll used his Arkansas governor connections , the Clinton couple was embroiled in a real estate scam that involved hundreds of thousand of dollars of fraudulent loans. Of course, they counted on Podesta to run a cleanup operation.

And his work did not go unrewarded. He was promoted as Bill's top assistant, as Chief of Staff. It's no wonder that the Clinton's scandel manager is currently at the top of the list to be Hillary Clinton's Chief of Staff too, after dutifully serving their first presidency. Throughout John Podesta's political rise, his group swelled in funds. Afterall, these skilled lobbyists had a seat in the white house, and a lifetime of insider connections as a result.

Today the Podesta Group boasts of stellar corporate clients like Walmart, British Petroleum (BP), and war profiteer Locheed Martin. It also includes financial giants Bank of America and Sallie Mae, war profiteers General Dynamics and Raytheon, media groups National Association of Broadcasters (NAB), National Public Radio (NPR), biotech giants Amgen, Genentech, and Synthetic Genomics, energy giants Duke Energy and Sunoco, healthcare and big pharma Covidien, Merck, Novartis and other corporate giants like Nestle.

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But, the Podesta duo's true power in Washington began to be fully realized in 2013., when John Podesta founded the think tank, Center for American Prgress (CAP). The Center for American Progress bills itself as simply a policy advocate. But, in reality it's just another corporate lobbying firm, with it's well known inside access, CAP entices it's top corporate donors with "round table discussions with Hill and national leaders. " His board of director includes the director of Golden West Financial (Corportion), the second largest savings and loan association in the US, and billionaire banker Tom Stair?, among others. Podesta's CAP trustees includes a Goldman Sachs vice president, and a notorious war criminal Madelaine Albright. The CAP's donors paint a fuller picture of the group's character. It's public donors include repugnant billiionaire and game change funder George Soros and billionaires who made more billions driving a sub-prime mortgage crisis, Irv and Mariam Sandler?. They're joined by big banks like Citigroup and Wells Fargo, war profiteer Northrup Grumman, and America's Health Insurance Planners.

But, as a non-profit American Progress doesn't have to disclose it's donors. The Nation obtained their secret sponsors list, which include an even bigger network of shady corporations. It includes Comcast, Walmart and General Motors, energy giant Pacific Gas and Electric, war profiteers General Electric, Boeing and Locheed Martin, and the right wing government of Turkey.


This buying access club has paid off lucratively for both sides, especially when a democrat returned to the White House, and John Podesta was tapped to lead Obama's transition team, with his golden rolodex to sell the new administration. Podesta's system packed the White House with allies he knew would please the banks and corporations in their corner.

For example, Wikileaks revealed that a month before Obama won the 2008 election, an executive at Citigroup, a public donor to CAP, e-mailed Podesta. The subjects line was a list, and his recommendation for thirty-one cabinet positions. The exec, Michael Fromman, wrote, "The list will continue to grow... but these are the names to date that seem to be coming up as recommended by various sources for senior level jobs."

This random guy from Citigroup, offering who his banking partners should run the entire country, ended up being almost 100% accurate. The vast majority of the preliminary list ended up coming true. Fromman, who was the point person for applicants, frrwarding Podesto resumes to other insidres, begging to be on team. Today, Fromman serves as US Trade Representative in Obama's administration.

But, this was just the beginning of Podesta's new influence. with unprecedented access to the White House, records show that in 2009, Podesta had meetings in the White House 25 times. In contrast, only one such visit was made by Democrat Nancy pelosi, who is Speaker of the House. John Podesta alone visited the White House at least 130 times between 2009 and 2013. The corporate representative was widely considered an informal advisor to the administration. The Podesta tagged teamed boomed. By 2006, the assets from Podesta's centerdropped from $23 million to $20 million, but when the Podestas stacked the Obama admin? , their assets doubled to $40 million. It's staff grew from only 20 prior to Obama to over 270 by 2013. Likewise, the Podesta Group swelled during the Obama presidency. Between 2006 to 2010, Podesta Group's staff tripled, and profits doubled. John Podesta's rising influence built a wide and constantly turning revolving door between his Center, it's corporate sponsors, and the government.

Among countless examples are Scott Lilly, a former Congressman who took simultaneous positions as a national security lobbyist for the CAP, and as a lobbyist for Locheed Martin. Locheed was also a big CAP donor at the time.

Spencer Boyer was a so called expert on Turkey, secretly given millions by the hated and brutal regime. Boyer left that position to be Obama's Deputy Assistant of European Affairs; which, "develops and implements US policy in Turkey. Rudy DeLeon? , Clinton's former Deputy Secretary of Defense became Director of lobbying for Boeing - a major CAP donor, and then Senior VP for National Security at the CAP.

Today, Rudy simultaneously serves as the CAP lobbyist while on the Department of Defense Advisory Board and as a board member of defense contractor General Dynamics.

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Podesta's cash for favors mastery is most exemplified by a scheme during Obama's Stimulus Plan. The Center for American Progress had long lobbied on behalf of it's renewable energy clients, who had a lot to gain from supposedly "green' reforms; in particular, big manufacturer of solar panels, weatherized homes, and so on. Podesta and the CAP were of course there to lobby for who should get the funds from Obama's stimulus. The CAP strongly advocated for for direct stimulus money for a solar panel manufacturer called First Solar - a company that the CAP claimed it had no ties to. First Solar received close to $4 billion of the funds. But, it was discovered afterwards that First Solar was actually part of the CAP's so called business alliance of secret donors; a fact that the Center intentionally concealed.

Steve Spinner, the Department of Energy's stimulus advisoe, who oversaw the transfer of funds to First Solar and other CAP clients, left his government job when the deal was done to take a seat as Senior Fellow of the CAP.

Corporate lobbyist Jose Villereal? , whose clients include Walmart, Boeing and Dow Chemical, simultaneously served on the board of directors for First Solar, and the CAP during the stimulus payout. In 2015, he was appointed by Hillary Clinton as her Campaign Treasurer.

John Podesta himself sits on the board of directors of an energy company, and an investment firm, who raked in massive amounts of green energy stimulous funds. Over a dozen other corporations donating to the CAP received these green stimulus funds from Obama's White House. While the clean energy John delivered billions to his supposedly environmentally friendly donors, Tony was busy raking in cash from big polluters - like Exxon-Mobil, to lobby to export fracking, and BP during their catastrophic oil spill. The Podesta Group successfully stalled congressional inquiries in the BP disaster.

The Podestas and the Clintons profitted off many other backroom deals during this time; while today, being the leading fear mongers about Russia, they had no problem getting paid by Russian oligarchs. Apart form the Podesta Group's working for Russia's biggest state owned bank, John helped secure the Russian purchase of a massive mining company called Uranium One; which had required the approval of Hillary's State Department. Uranium One, with mining rights to 20% of uranium in the US, was owned by a good friend of the Clintons, Frank Geostra? Russian elites funneled millions to the Clintons, as well as $180,000 to the Podesta Group to grease the wheels. The sale was predictably approved.

While campaigning in 2015, Hillary started receiving the backlash for this apprent pay to play from her State Department. That month, as recently revealed by Wikileaks, State Department official Jose Fernandez? had written to Podesta, saying he wanted to do all he could to help her campaign. Five days later, Fernandez issued a statement saying he was responsible for the State Department approving the deal, and Hillary had nothing to do with it... Scandel averted! He's also on the board for Podesta's Center for American Progress.

The value of Podestas' access only grew when John Podesta became Obama's Senior Advisor in 2014. While having stepped down as the Center's President, he retains control through it's board of directors, and his appointed successor, Neera Tanden. Podesta was already on his way into the next administration, recuited in 2015 to head Hillary Clinton's campaign, he is now expected to get a top cabinet position.

Today, while Podesta runs Hillary's path to the White House, his Center for American Progress advocates for her game changing policies. For example, her promise to bring the sure to be diasterous bombing campaign against Syria, and while the Center helps the next so-called humanitarian intervention, it will also be working hard to protect our most important shared asset: Brutal foreign dictatorships.

The Podesta Group has been hired for lobbying by the murderous ? regime in Iraq, and loathed Mubarek regime in Egypt. Tony Podesta also lobbied for a Qatari fracking company.

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The Clintons have their share of ties too; receiving tens of millions of dollars in donations from the regimes of Qatar, Bahrain, United Arab Emirates and Kuwait; but most scandelous was that one the biggest donors to the supposedly progressive team is the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia - currently massacring dissidents in it's own country, as well as thousands of Yemeni civilians. The Saudi regime funds the Clintons with at least tens of millions of dollars, and in 2015, the Saudi government also started paying $140 thousand per month to the Podesta Group.


Tony Podesta , who personally oversees the Saudi lobbying project, works to improve the image of the brutal Saudi regime, even the appalling defense of the beheading of political dissdent Sheik Al Ameri(?). According to the New York Times, the Podesta Group supplied this statement that insisted Al Ameri was a terrorist.

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plays a role too, of course. While not directly funded by the Saudis, the CAP runs pro regime propaganda, touting so-called great reforms in Saudi Arabia.

One would think that such a deeply corrupt buying of favors by corporations and foreign governments from the country's most powerful politicians would be a major news story. But, the Clinton-Podesta team have a network for that too.

Trusted progressive website, ThinkProgress.org is actually owned by Podesta's Center for American Progress. While the site claims to have editorial independence, Wikileaks exposed how Podesta exercises editorial control. When a headline critical of Hillary Clinton appeared on his site, John wrote to his CAP partner Neera Tanden to have it changed. She responded, "I will. They are crazy leftists down there." Soon, it was replaced with a new, neutral headline.

But, it's not just the organizations sponsored by Podesta's think tank that curate their messaging, it's every establishment reporter who wants to maintain barely access with tewo of the most powerful families in Washington. Political reporter Glenn Thrush consulted with Podesta himself before publishing a report on Hillary Clinton back in May 2015, writing "Because I have become a hack, I will send u the whole section that pertains to u. Please don't share or tell anyone i did this... tell me if I fucked up anything."

"No problems here.", Podesta responded. Maybe Thrush was worried that if he didn't eagerly please the campaign, he wouldn't be invited to the next secret Podesta Clinton fan bash.

Podesta and his partners hosted several glitzy affairs designed to, "give their reporters their first thoughts from team HRC in advance of the announcement", as well as, "Framing the HRC message and framing the race."

The nearly 40 attendees to one of these cocktail parties included Politico's Glenn Thrush, Huffington Post, Vox, New York Times, Vice, Daily Beast, and heavy hitters on MSNBC and CNN. Despite all these far reaching tentacles of influence, the Podesta Clinton team are such obviously corrupt crime families that Hillary's candidacy is possibly the most unpopular of all time.

Their decades of shady dealings have tainted them so much, that their election put them neck and neck with the other most unpopular candidate to ever run. In fact, her entire campaign had to be predicated on fear of this repugnant game show host.

Thet tell us the Republican Party represents corporate power, pollution and war - which is true, but they also tells us the Democratic Party is the antedote. Podesta's emails and Podesta himself, show that this so called progressive wing of the establishment is reaaly just a neoliberal insider's club of the rich and powerful, who loyally served their corporate masters. Podesta's emails are more than just a window into one man, but a window into how the Empire's political is actually run, and these truths are what can bring that machine's gears to a halt.


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Re: Who is John Podesta?

Postby tapitsbo » Sun Nov 13, 2016 2:26 am

https://dcpizzagate.wordpress.com/

and this is fever swamp professional distraction disinfo that has nothing today with classic RI type topics, whatsoever
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Re: Who is John Podesta?

Postby guruilla » Sun Nov 13, 2016 3:10 am

tapitsbo » Sun Nov 13, 2016 2:26 am wrote:https://dcpizzagate.wordpress.com/

and this is fever swamp professional distraction disinfo that has nothing today with classic RI type topics, whatsoever

Chilling stuff.

“Evelyn is growing up. Soon she will be the queen of the entire US of A. right now, for a limited time only, you can spend some time with her online, raw and uncut. Take advantage of this now, as in the future she will have the power of life and death over you.”

This kind of talk is similar to the sort of torture-programming Wendy Hoffman writes about in The Enslaved Queen.
It is a lot easier to fool people than show them how they have been fooled.
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Re: Who is John Podesta?

Postby tapitsbo » Sun Nov 13, 2016 3:19 am

Since this is happening in the context of the election I am not trying to imply that one "side" of the political/cultural war is more entangled than the other, at the top, although lots of posts here on this board have historically done just that (and I greatly respect someone like VISUP who curates such a beautifully interwoven but VERY selective tapestry of skullduggery.)

The part about the threads being deleted really got to me - they were allowed to post on this topic (which was spun to make the whole subject seem like a "non-PC" farce) and then they got switched off

What I can hardly believe is why these posters are still using 4chan. Everything is compromised but a site like 4chan is so compromised that I have found it pointless and unusable and haven't gone on it since about six years ago
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Re: Who is John Podesta?

Postby tapitsbo » Sun Nov 13, 2016 3:50 am

JackRiddler » Mon Nov 07, 2016 2:17 pm wrote:.

Well hey, nothing's been shown but a lot of "creepy stuff" has been thrown in, so by the magic of association in the electronic media, we're surely done, right?

Textbook case:

How to turn a real, proven scandal about money and power in the real world into a dismissable hysteria in which Alt-Right kittens project their own fetishes on to strangers, and call it disgusting.

Here are grown men who can probably do sophisticated textual analysis of Star Trek episodes, but have trouble with paintings that are a lot simpler in form and message.

Enjoying yourself boys? Now don't bother with the next part, it's for people who can actually understand shit, mainly MacC.

If the reaction formation model is that Lena Dunham alienates poor rednecks into voting for Trump (which is bullshit in several ways, but anyway), then surely it also applies that this kind of projection of conspiracy merchandisers' own sick fantasies alienates elite edumacateds into clinging to Clinton?

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Let me go with this line of thought at the end for a second - who's the signal boosting of Dunham supposed to be helping? It's not helping the people she gestures about caring about. It's not helping her personally (although unsurprisingly I don't give a fuck about that.)

It sounds like you're talking about Dunham as a legitimate or acceptable cultural figure which is FUCKING HILARIOUS (that era is over now now matter how you slice it, the edumacated need to find new pretentious assholes to insufferably quote when they bring their totems to war... or something...)

You know when I first saw the Comet Pizza stuff being dumped I thought it was projection just like Jack says. Seeing the blogspot I linked (combined with other material I saw) changed my mind though.

Who here still thinks this batch of dough was ALL fantasy?

It smells highly strange to me.
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Re: Who is John Podesta?

Postby FourthBase » Sun Nov 13, 2016 7:49 am

Can this board finally start taking Pizzagate seriously? I need help figuring out how infested with a similar evil my elite high school alma mater is, once everybody has caught up to speed on Pizzagate.
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Re: Who is John Podesta?

Postby FourthBase » Sun Nov 13, 2016 7:54 am

Who here still thinks this batch of dough was ALL fantasy?


It's all real. It's all true. All of it. Everything.
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Re: Who is John Podesta?

Postby Burnt Hill » Sun Nov 13, 2016 9:23 am

tapitsbo » Sun Nov 13, 2016 2:26 am wrote:https://dcpizzagate.wordpress.com/

and this is fever swamp professional distraction disinfo that has nothing today with classic RI type topics, whatsoever

We are supposed to accept that as investigative journalism?
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Re: Who is John Podesta?

Postby FourthBase » Sun Nov 13, 2016 9:59 am

Burnt Hill » 13 Nov 2016 08:23 wrote:
tapitsbo » Sun Nov 13, 2016 2:26 am wrote:https://dcpizzagate.wordpress.com/

and this is fever swamp professional distraction disinfo that has nothing today with classic RI type topics, whatsoever

We are supposed to accept that as investigative journalism?


Just uncovered this week.

What is your rigorously intuitive initial assessment?
Or are you already committed to debunking duty?
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Re: Who is John Podesta?

Postby Burnt Hill » Sun Nov 13, 2016 10:14 am

FourthBase » Sun Nov 13, 2016 9:59 am wrote:
Burnt Hill » 13 Nov 2016 08:23 wrote:
tapitsbo » Sun Nov 13, 2016 2:26 am wrote:https://dcpizzagate.wordpress.com/

and this is fever swamp professional distraction disinfo that has nothing today with classic RI type topics, whatsoever

We are supposed to accept that as investigative journalism?


Just uncovered this week.

What is your rigorously intuitive initial assessment?
Or are you already committed to debunking duty?


I haven't got one yet.
Have to start somewhere though.
My first impression of the article is that it is not very good journalism.
I don't see Evie's Crib website as anything sinister, despite the indulgent title.
We put a lot of emphasis on still pictures here.
The ones at that blog show happy, healthy children.
That's a start.

So am I supposed to see it as smart investigative journalism?
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Re: Who is John Podesta?

Postby FourthBase » Sun Nov 13, 2016 12:05 pm

Burnt Hill » 13 Nov 2016 09:14 wrote:
FourthBase » Sun Nov 13, 2016 9:59 am wrote:
Burnt Hill » 13 Nov 2016 08:23 wrote:
tapitsbo » Sun Nov 13, 2016 2:26 am wrote:https://dcpizzagate.wordpress.com/

and this is fever swamp professional distraction disinfo that has nothing today with classic RI type topics, whatsoever

We are supposed to accept that as investigative journalism?


Just uncovered this week.

What is your rigorously intuitive initial assessment?
Or are you already committed to debunking duty?


I haven't got one yet.
Have to start somewhere though.
My first impression of the article is that it is not very good journalism.
I don't see Evie's Crib website as anything sinister, despite the indulgent title.
We put a lot of emphasis on still pictures here.
The ones at that blog show happy, healthy children.
That's a start.

So am I supposed to see it as smart investigative journalism?


You are supposed to see it as the output of less than one week of amateur journalism crowdsourced by capable geeks. And perhaps it would all have more of an impact on you if you were already familiar with this:

https://reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comment ... te_summary

If you don't see anything sinister going on, then I have to begin questioning your sanity, your character, your reading comprehension skills, something.
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Re: Who is John Podesta?

Postby chump » Sun Nov 13, 2016 1:42 pm


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Re: Who is John Podesta?

Postby guruilla » Sun Nov 13, 2016 2:06 pm

It is a lot easier to fool people than show them how they have been fooled.
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Re: Who is John Podesta?

Postby FourthBase » Sun Nov 13, 2016 2:07 pm

I was on board with everything Sibel was saying there, until she started rolling her eyes about the notion of there being a cult network, at which point I stopped the video. She either doesn't know yet, or she is full of shit there. Spot-on right up to that point, then pllpfffllpppfff, shit. It is about a cult.
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Re: Who is John Podesta?

Postby Burnt Hill » Sun Nov 13, 2016 2:58 pm

FourthBase » Sun Nov 13, 2016 12:05 pm wrote:
Burnt Hill » 13 Nov 2016 09:14 wrote:
FourthBase » Sun Nov 13, 2016 9:59 am wrote:
Burnt Hill » 13 Nov 2016 08:23 wrote:
tapitsbo » Sun Nov 13, 2016 2:26 am wrote:https://dcpizzagate.wordpress.com/

and this is fever swamp professional distraction disinfo that has nothing today with classic RI type topics, whatsoever

We are supposed to accept that as investigative journalism?


Just uncovered this week.

What is your rigorously intuitive initial assessment?
Or are you already committed to debunking duty?


I haven't got one yet.
Have to start somewhere though.
My first impression of the article is that it is not very good journalism.
I don't see Evie's Crib website as anything sinister, despite the indulgent title.
We put a lot of emphasis on still pictures here.
The ones at that blog show happy, healthy children.
That's a start.

So am I supposed to see it as smart investigative journalism?


You are supposed to see it as the output of less than one week of amateur journalism crowdsourced by capable geeks. And perhaps it would all have more of an impact on you if you were already familiar with this:

https://reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comment ... te_summary

If you don't see anything sinister going on, then I have to begin questioning your sanity, your character, your reading comprehension skills, something.


Been doing this too long to accept anything based on one week of amateur journalism.
But since we engaged on one point, would you tell me more about what is sinister about Evies Crib?
And thanks for the link I will have a look.
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