Bernie Sanders running for preznit?

[Nordic]

Hell of a lot of people are going Green. Which I think is great. Hopefully lots of conservatives will go Libertarian.

My dream is that everybody boycotts the 2 corrupt parties and they wither and die on the vine.

Saw a lot of people today still in denial. Like they thought Bernie did this as some kind of feint to really make his move at the convention. I guess dreams die hard.

[seemslikeadream]

they still think Hillary will get convicted of a felony for lying to congress and Bernie will have to take her place

..but the rightys didn't get their wish for her security clearance to be revoked..so there's that

[Wombaticus Rex]

Hopefully lots of conservatives will go Libertarian.

Nah.

I'll vote Druid, though.

[backtoiam]

UPDATE: Despite endorsement, Sanders delegates vow to hold DNC ‘fart-in’ anyway!
July 12, 2016
By Kyle Olson

The beans have already arrived, Bernie Sanders supporters say, and they vow their planned “world’s largest fart-in” will go on — regardless of his endorsement of Hillary Clinton.



Cheri Honkala, head of Poor People’s Economic Human Rights Campaign, is organizing the world’s largest “fart-in” to be held on July 28 at Philadelphia’s Wells Fargo Center during Hillary Clinton’s anticipated Democratic nomination acceptance speech.

“We will be holding a massive bean supper for Bernie Sanders delegates on American Street in my Kensington neighborhood on the afternoon of July 28,” Honkala said, TruthDig reported last month.

“We are setting up a Clintonville there, modeled on the Hoovervilles of the 1930s where the poor and unemployed built shanty towns. The Sanders delegates, their bellies full of beans, will be able to return to the Wells Fargo Center and greet the rhetorical flatulence of Hillary Clinton with the real thing.”

Activists have invited Bernie Sanders to join their bean supper, which Honkala has dubbed “Beans for Hillary.”

“Any remaining beans will be served to the homeless, although we will, of course, be urging Sanders delegates to eat as much as possible,” she said.

Since then, Sanders has endorsed Clinton, seemingly taking the wind out of the protesters’, um, sails.

But they vow to make a stink, anyway.

US News reports:

Boxes of dry beans and heavy containers of canned beans already have arrived by mail, Honkala says, in all varieties: navy, pinto, lima and baked, with return addresses in Texas, Wisconsin and across the Rust Belt.

“Those beans will probably quadruple” after Sanders’ endorsement, Honkala says.

Many Sanders supporters “are not happy” about the two major party candidates, she says. “They do not represent the American people. It’s like they’re reality-show characters, two villains who can’t be trusted.”

Organizers have not tested varieties to discern the smelliest option, but Honkala says baked beans likely will be preferred and paired with hot dogs at a feeding location in a “Clintonville” camp in northern Philadelphia.

A second feeding location is likely to be at the group’s office a few blocks from the convention venue for delegates, journalists and others heading into the speech.

“It shows the level of absolute disgust that we’re at – we think we’re going to remember 2016 as the year we begin to bury the two corporate political parties,” Honkala tells the magazine. “It’s really a shame – this whole thing does stink. Democrats and Republicans are like Pepsi and Coke. They listen to corporations and they don’t listen to anti-poverty activists.”

http://www.theamericanmirror.com/update ... more-15771

[82_28]

Can the delegates split off in the convention?

Whatever. It's over. Maybe not. But probably is.

[Project Willow]

Entertainer Al Lewis (Grandpa Munster) fought for the 99% his entire life. He came from nothing and always did his best to fight for the oppressed. Several years before his death, he had some words of wisdom for all "the Johnny-Come-Latelies" who might try to follow in his footsteps. In my darkest political hours, I find both profound wisdom and a shred of comfort in his words.

http://www.the-reelgillman.com/munsters ... grand.html

Thank you for that.

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Bernie didn't make a very good sheep dog, the wool pulled from their eyes, the flock are headed for Greener pastures.
#Demexit
#TakeaJillPill
#NotHerUs

It's pretty amazing how blatant are the machinations, the open corruption of our institutions, like there's some new adjustment to reality every day. The head of the FBI follows a list of criminal acts with an argument against indictment, the Attorney General can't define perjury in a congressional hearing, Bernie votes are whited out in San Diego. It flows rather well from 911, on through Obama's duplicity. If they can change the laws of physics just by saying so, then they can pretty much do anything they want, until or unless there is some great cataclysm.

[NeonLX]

[Elihu]

there is no more illusion, is there? of being a "democrat" or "republican" means anything. is there? jc

[backtoiam]

there is no more illusion, is there? of being a "democrat" or "republican" means anything. is there? jc

Not in my world. Its only different toenails on the same foot of the dog to me. I giggle everytime I see "far right."

[NeonLX]

there is no more illusion, is there? of being a "democrat" or "republican" means anything. is there? jc

Not in my world. Its only different toenails on the same foot of the dog to me. I giggle everytime I see "far right."

I've arrived at that point too. A monstrous Punch and Judy Show to keep us distracted...like some big busy box for adults.

[Luther Blissett]

There's still an illusion amongst my young Gen X neoliberal friends. I was in a major fight with them yesterday when I got the "here's the part where Luther thinks we're all conservatives. You know everyone here votes Democrat right?" response. People definitely believe it.

[82_28]

Look at this Salon.com retard (Sean Illing) who I always disagree with everything he writes.

Time to move on: Sanders has endorsed Clinton, but some of his backers are still pointlessly raging against reality

This is ridiculous, of course. It won’t accomplish anything and it demonstrates how delusional this element of Bernie’s base is. “She stands for everything we’re fighting against.” Really? What about the long list of policies Sanders cited yesterday? Clinton and Sanders’s positions are indistinguishable here. “Truly shocked and saddened by this.” Really? At the very first debate, Sanders said “Hillary Clinton will be an infinitely better candidate and president than the Republican candidate on his best day.” And you’re “shocked” he endorsed her over the worst Republican candidate imaginable?

http://www.salon.com/2016/07/13/time_to ... t_reality/

I never say a pointed fuck you to people. But fuck this guy. Delusional? Maybe. Idealistic? Definitely. People liked Sanders on principle and didn't want a lunatic or a lame droning mom as prez.

[conniption]

Jill2016

Jill Stein responds to Sanders' endorsement of Clinton

I join millions of Americans who see Hillary Clinton's campaign as the opposite of what they and Bernie Sanders have fought for. Despite her penchant for flip flopping rhetoric, Hillary Clinton has spent decades consistently serving the causes of Wall Street, war and the Walmart economy.

The policies she fought for - along with her husband and political partner, Bill Clinton - have been foundations of the economic disaster most Americans are still struggling with: the abuses of deregulated Wall Street, rigged corporate trade agreements, racist mass incarceration, and the destruction of the social safety net for poor women and children. The consistent efforts of the Democratic Party to minimize, sideline, and sabotage the Sanders campaign are a wake up call that we can't have a revolutionary campaign inside a counter-revolutionary party.

Sadly, Sanders is one of a long line of true reformers that have been undermined by the Democratic Party. The eventual suppression of the Sanders campaign was virtually guaranteed from the beginning with super-delegates and super Tuesdays, that were created after George McGovern's nomination to prevent grassroots campaigns from winning the nomination again.

Sanders, a life-long independent who has advocated for building an independent democratic socialist party similar to Canada's New Democratic Party, has said that his decision to run as a Democrat was based on pragmatism, but there is nothing pragmatic about supporting a party that for decades has consistently sold out the progressive majority to the billionaire class. This false pragmatism is not the path to revolutionary change but rather an incrementalism that keeps us trapped, voting for lesser evil again and again.

Each time a progressive challenger like Sanders, Dennis Kucinich or Jesse Jackson has inspired hope for real change, the Democratic Party has sabotaged them while marching to the right, becoming more corporatist and militarist with each election cycle.

Millions are realizing that if we want to fix the rigged economy, the rigged racial injustice system, the rigged health care system, toxic fossil fuel energy and all the other systems failing us, we must fix the rigged political system, and that will not happen through the rigged Democratic Party.

Right now we have a real chance to change our rigged political system, and we must not squander this opportunity by pledging allegiance to a corrupt political insider who the majority of Americans do not like, trust or believe in.

What is most disappointing is that Sanders has refused invitations to speak to the Green Party, a truly democratic national party that has long championed the progressive stands that lifted the Sanders campaign to the top of national polls.

Fortunately, this November voters across America will still have the choice to cast a revolutionary vote to cancel student debt, achieve full employment and stop the climate meltdown through a Green New Deal, provide universal healthcare with Medicare for All, provide a welcoming path to citizenship, end mass incarceration and create a foreign policy based on international law and human rights. We need to commit to improving the lives of all Americans, not just the wealthy and special interests.

As the Sanders campaign's dominance of national polls has shown, our positions are shared by a majority of voters, and with the Green Party on the ballot in November the majority can vote for what they want and get it. Together we can beat both Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump, the two most unpopular and least trusted presidential candidates in American history.

I call on the tens of millions inspired by Bernie Sanders' call for political revolution, the 60% of Americans who want a new major party, and the independents who outnumber both Democrats and Republicans to reject the self-defeating strategy of voting for the lesser evil and join our fight for the greater good.

I ask the rising independent majority to demand our inclusion in the Presidential debates, for as Sanders proved, in fair debates we can rally the majority of Americans behind a plan for an America and a world that works for all of us.

I congratulate Bernie Sanders on running an impressive campaign within an undemocratic primary, and I thank Bernie for showing clearly how a grassroots campaign, armed only with a progressive vision and small contributions from real people, can win over the majority of Americans. Let's keep the revolution going and build it into the powerful force for transformative change that it is becoming. Together we are unstoppable.

http://www.jill2016.com/keeptherevolutiongoing

[NeonLX]

...The eventual suppression of the Sanders campaign was virtually guaranteed from the beginning with super-delegates and super Tuesdays, that were created after George McGovern's nomination to prevent grassroots campaigns from winning the nomination again.

And there you have it.

[seemslikeadream]

did we really want Bernie to be held responsible for the Big Crash of 2016?