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Why Some Hasidic Jews Are Loving Donald Trump's Campaign
By Olivia Becker
March 10, 2016 | 12:00 pm
Chaim Schlaff was born and raised in a Hasidic Jewish community in London. He now lives in an ultra-Orthodox neighborhood of Brooklyn, New York, and describes himself as a "proud legal immigrant." He is also an enthusiastic Donald Trump supporter.
Schlaff says he "loves" the way Trump speaks and so do most of his friends: "He talks about everything we think."
Schlaff is not the only member of the Hasidic community in the greater New York City area that feels this way about Trump. According to many Hasidic voters and political commentators, Trump has sparked an undeniable interest in parts of this culturally isolated world.
"Among my circle of friends, at least 90 percent [support] Trump," said Yanky Lichtman, a Trump supporter who lives in Lakewood, New Jersey, one of the biggest Orthodox Jewish communities in the New York area.
David Gross, a Hasid who lives in Brooklyn, said he was never interested in politics before this election, but "when Trump decided to run I got excited."
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"He is honest, an everyday person," Gross said. "A lot of people I know agree with him, but they just don't want to say it." Gross added that he'd probably just sit out the general election if Trump was not the Republican nominee because "it won't be as interesting."
Jacob Kornbluh, a New York-based Orthodox political reporter for the news site Jewish Insider, says that there is "no question support for Trump is widespread" within the Hasidic community. The majority of Hasidic voters he's spoken to have said they plan on supporting Trump, although Kornbluh says that he has also found support for Senators Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz within the community. But for the average Hasidic voter, says Kornbluh, "Trump is their guy."
The Hasidim are the most conservative wing of the ultra-Orthodox Jewish community and are culturally, ideologically, and politically distinct from mainstream American Jews. While Jewish voters overall are consistently one of the most liberal groups in the country, nearly two-thirds of ultra-Orthodox Jews say they are politically conservative, while 57 percent of Orthodox Jews identify with or lean towards the Republican party, according to a Pew survey of Jewish Americans.
There have not been any polls of Hasidic voters ahead of the primary election, so much of the evidence of support for Trump within these communities so far has been anecdotal. But the fact that Trump has also done well among evangelical Christians in the primary states that have voted so far (in South Carolina, he won 34 percent of the white evangelical Christian vote) is a fairly telling indicator of how Hasidim will vote as well.
Since 2000, ultra-Orthodox Jews in New York have voted in national elections in extremely similar patterns to how evangelical Christians voted, according to Sam Abrams, a political scientist at Stanford University who studies the politics of American Jewish voters. The only other religious group of Americans that are as consistently conservative (politically and ideologically) as Orthodox Jews are white, evangelical Christians, according to Pew.
If it were any other election, it might be surprising that a candidate like Trump is popular in communities as conservative as Hasidic Jews and evangelical Christians. The twice-divorced reality television star has bragged about the size of his penis on national television, voiced support for gay marriage (although he has since walked that back) and extolled the virtues of Planned Parenthood. None of this exactly matches up with the socially conservative views held very deeply by both groups.
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But one of the fundamental aspects of Trump's campaign — which has confounded political pundits to no end — has been his ability to find support across seemingly contradictory pockets of the American electorate. Since the start of this election, commentators have been obsessed with assigning each candidate to specific groups of voters based on their demographics, backgrounds and ideologies; Ted Cruz's base was supposed to be evangelical Christians concentrated in the south, while Jeb Bush and Marco Rubio were the "establishment" guys that would appeal to moderates in northeastern suburbs. But Trump smashed through this framework by proving he was able to pick up supporters across all kinds of voters.
Trump's popularity in the Hasidic community highlights this phenomenon. When asked about their support for Trump, many Hasidim use the same lines and talking points one hears from Trump supporters at his rallies around the country.
"I like the way how he says it," said Lichtman. "He tells you straight what he thinks and that's a big plus."
Lichtman added that he, along with many of his friends who are also supporting Trump, are "fed up with the establishment on both sides. [We] gave them a chance and nothing worked." Like Brooklyn's Gross, Lichtman says that if Trump is not the nominee he probably won't vote in the general election at all.
Others cited Trump's business experience as a big reason for their support. There's a "feeling he'll be able to create jobs, create wealth, bring jobs into this country," Gross said.
As with Trump's base throughout the country, the Hasidim that spoke with VICE News saw some of his more controversial comments as far less important than what the candidate represents.
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Schlaff, who emigrated from England, brushed off Trump's comments about banning certain types of immigrants from coming to the country. "He says a lot of not thought-through sh** that he doesn't even believe," Schlaff wrote in a Facebook message. "If you read between the lines he makes it quite clear that he's going to keep the skilled [immigrants]."
Those who closely track the politics and culture of the Hasidic community speculate that one reason that Trump has gained popularity among some of its members is very specific to the way Hasidic life is organized. For generations, the ultra-Orthodox religion and communities have been structured around a strong central leader, a rebbe or rabbi, who controls nearly all aspects of their life.
"How we operate on a daily life is to follow a certain rabbi and be inspired by him and do whatever he orders without questioning him," says Kornbluh.
Trump represents a similar type of leader, who promises plenty of great solutions if the country just follows his example. Explanations of how, exactly, he'll achieve those solutions come later. (See: "Make America Great Again"). These similarities between Trump and the rebbe style of leadership could be "why a lot of Orthodox Jews are inspired by him without questioning what he says or what his views on certain issues are," said Kornbluh.
It also helps that Trump is already a familiar name in the New York Jewish community, which Abrams says gives him popularity with Hasidim. The businessman has spent decades plastering his name on buildings around New York City which has caused his brand to penetrate even the closed-off communities of Hasidim in the outer boroughs.
"It's strong name recognition," Abrams said. "They know the name, they know the brand."
Yossi Gestetner, a Hasidic political consultant and commentator, agrees. He pointed out that "Trump has a long history of being friendly to people in the Jewish community." Trump himself touts his history of being close to his hometown's Jewish community, citing examples like his being grand marshal in the Israeli Day Parade down Fifth Avenue several years ago.
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He also has a personal connection to the Jewish community that no other Republican presidential candidate does — Orthodox Jewish family members. Trump's daughter Ivanka converted to Orthodox Judaism in 2009 and is married to a high-profile Orthodox real estate businessman, Jared Kushner. She has openly discussed how her family keeps Kosher and observes the Jewish holiday of Shabbat every weekend.
Both Ivanka and Kushner, along with their children, have been highly visible surrogates for Trump on the campaign trail. Abrams says "there's a subtle appreciation for that in a way that the other ... candidates can't possibly connect with this community."
Trump has not actively sought the support of the ultra-Orthodox, but he has not turned it away. Last February, he accepted an endorsement from Algemeiner, an Orthodox-leaning newspaper based in Brooklyn. At the ceremony, Trump thanked Ivanka, who introduced her father. "I want to thank my Jewish daughter. I have a Jewish daughter," he said at the event. "This wasn't in the plan, but I'm very glad it happened."
Still, many Hasidim and those who closely track the political climate of the community pointed out that the discussion around the election among the ultra-Orthodox may not actually translate into votes. Gestetner agrees there is a genuine buzz of interest about Trump's candidacy within his community but he is skeptical whether Hasidim will actually turnout for Trump in the New York primary, which is not until April 19. He also says many Hasidim he knows support Cruz.
Trump's popularity in the Hasidic community right now, says Gestetner, "is conversational, it's an amusement thing." And just like everywhere else in the country, a large part of the conversation right now is about Trump.
"Politics is the sport of Hasidim," said Gestetner. And those who follow politics as closely as fanatic sports fans, "see [Trump] as the winning team."
Republican Jews’ Damning Silence on Trump
If Trump is going to be stopped, it is going to be from within. Given that Republican Jews are well-positioned to take him on, why aren’t they actively sounding the alarm?
Are Republican Jews to Blame for Donald Trump's Success?
BY SUSAN L.M. GOLDBERG MARCH 12, 2016
Never have I been so happy to not be a registered Republican. I’m even happier that I avoided the Trump mess from the beginning, refusing to buy into the insanity beyond the occasional, “Hey guys, he’s Hillary’s new Ross Perot.” (I’m a believer in starving beasts that feed off goading press of any kind.) But I am also feeling pretty rotten this week for Jewish Republicans who have taken on the Trump monster. They have unwittingly placed themselves on the front lines in the party’s current Operation Human Shield. To be sure, they aren’t alone. They have their gentile counterparts in this battle. But their presence has nevertheless become a talking point in the Jewish community, and some of the dialogue is downright nasty.
Israeli liberal daily Ha’aretz published a piece on the “Republican Jews’ Damning Silence on Trump.” If Fox News has driven a stake into fair and balanced news reporting, Ha’aretz is the publication responsible for crafting and selling said implements to their fellow media outlets. As biased as they come, Ha’aretz took a fairly truthful boilerplate of Republican Jews (a minority within their ethnic clan, strong Rubio supporters and party faithful) and painted a larger-than-life image of sellouts pandering to an evil dictator. Republican Jews are the equivalent of Judenrat in liberal eyes, yeah yeah, we get it. But accusing all right-wing Jews of bowing to Trump for the sake of the party? That’s absurd.
Only a few days prior to the publication of the Ha’aretz piece, the Daily Beast published a tell-all on the evil implications of Breitbart’s radical support of Trump. Bethany Mandel, a Jewish Republican and outspoken anti-Trump activist, obtained a handgun for self defense after receiving a slew of threats from Trump supporters. Ben Shapiro, Breitbart’s editor-at-large, has received his own share of anti-Semitic tweets from Trump activists after writing articles against Trump’s candidacy. They aren’t alone.
Months ago, NRO's Jonah Goldberg tapped into the anti-Semitic underbelly of the Trump campaign. His criticisms of The Donald triggered a huge backlash from supporters, much of which was nothing less than anti-Jewish jargon ranging from ignorant to perverse. I received my own share of it when I covered the anti-Semitism in an article for PJ Media. (The most comical comment asserted that Goldberg, whom I’ve never even met, and I were obviously related. The not-so-funny stuff, well, there’s a reason I don’t re-tweet comments.) The anti-Semitism has been prevalent from the beginning. But so have Trump's Republican Jewish critics.
None of this appeared in the Ha’aretz piece, because that would’ve required a liberal Jew to dare to interact with a conservative Jew. G-d forbid. What do you think this is -- Passover, when we HAVE to deal with each other across Grandma’s Seder table? Trump is the common enemy that should unite us. Instead, with their socialist-inspired “everything is political” attitude, liberal Jews simply blame conservative Jews for being Republican. Ha’aretz even went so far as to accuse Republican Jews of identifying as “white” and therefore identifying with white supremacy groups that back Trump. Nothing like taking twisted, Marxist-inspired PC logic to newer and even more evil heights of absurdi
At the same time, Republican Jews should think twice about remaining faithful to the party they hold dear. I dislike both Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders as much as the rest of my politically conservative Jews. That doesn’t mean I’ll vote for Trump. Two evils don’t make a good, no matter how necessary participation is to upholding the process. And the idea that Trump will somehow support Israel and Jewish Americans because he loves his convert daughter is absurd. Based on that logic, we should also vote for Max Blumenthal because his mom is Jewish and I bet he loves her, right?
Whatever the individual Jewish Republican’s opinion may be, the behavior of right-wing Jewish Republican groups deserves criticism. Despite the anti-Semitism prevalent among Trump supporters, AIPAC has welcomed Trump as a speaker at their annual conference. The jury is still out on a Republican Jewish Coalition endorsement, but Trump’s weirdly anti-Semitic performance in front of the Republican Jewish Coalition didn’t seem to faze the organization’s leadership. According to RJC Director Matt Brooks, “It’s a ‘we’re going to have to wait and see’ answer.” Subtext: We’re waiting to hopefully see Trump lose the primary and get out of our lives before he becomes an unavoidable nuisance.
The unavoidable nuisance is the question of whether or not Jewish Americans should be Republicans at all. Ha’aretz wants it to be annoying in an “I told you so” kind of way. But it’s not. If you’re a conservative, and a lover of the Constitution, biblical values and the revolutionary spirit that made this country great, you’re annoyed that your values are being trampled on by a TV star. If the party goes the way of D-lister reality television, you’re going to need to find a new political home. That’s annoying.
Ha’aretz concludes that all Jews, Republican and not, should respond to Trump’s existence with fear. But, as the brave actions of Jewish Republicans like Shapiro and Mandel have proven, the anti-Semitism trumped up by Trump isn’t a reason to be afraid. You’d think a publication rooted in Israel would know better than to assert Jewish fear in the face of an ideological enemy. Then again, when everything is political, you’re always going to be afraid of something. Just ask Hillary.
Exactly what Jewish Republicans will do in the face of a potential Trump candidacy is yet to be seen. But we’re good at waiting and seeing. We’ve been doing it for over 5,000 years and counting, and no Haman has gotten the best of us yet.
Trump Confirmed to Speak at AIPAC Conference
Republican front runner to join Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton and Vice President Joe Biden in addressing major Jewish lobby group.
Haaretz
Mar 11, 2016 10:36 PM
Republican U.S. presidential candidate Donald Trump speaks to the media at a campaign event in Palm Beach, Florida March 11, 2016. Reuter
Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump is scheduled to speak at the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) policy conference which is to take place in Washington between March 20-22.
Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton will also speak at the event, as will Vice President Joe Biden, while Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu will deliver comments via satellite.
Trump has faced sharped criticism from his Republican opponentsover his Israel policy and statements that he would remain "neutral" in an attempt to broker a peace deal between Israel and the Palestinians.
The AIPAC conference itself has also been at the center of controversy over the past week, as Netanyahu planned to speak in person at the event as well as visit the White House, but instead cancelled his trip.
What Trump Means for Israel
by LAWRENCE DAVIDSON
On 3 March 2016 Chemi Shaley, the U.S. correspondent for the Israeli newspaper Ha’aretz, wrote an interesting piece on what the Donald Trump phenomenon means for U.S.-Israeli relations. Here are some of his points:
1. Trump’s insistence on staying “neutral” when it comes to the Israeli-Palestinian problem has not cost him any popular support. Both Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio have “sneeringly lambasted” Trump for not supporting Israel, but to no avail. Trump just “laughed all the way to the top of the Republican presidential field.”
2. Republican evangelicals are paying no mind to Trump’s equivocations about Israel. They vote for Trump despite this. “Evangelical leaders … are heartbroken that so many Believers are flocking after the thrice married, dirty-talking reality star. They are less perturbed by his deviation from the strict pro-Israel party line, however, and more by the sinful ways for which he has not asked forgiveness.”
3. Israel’s Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s policy decision to “put all of Israel’s eggs in the GOP basket” – a decision confirmed when he appeared before Congress in 2015 to denounce the Iran nuclear agreement – has turned into a political disaster.
Waning Interest in Israel (U.S. Gentiles)
The rise of Donald Trump certainly suggests that the right-wing Israeli politicians badly misread the Republican political scene. Trump has tapped into a large and growing stratum of citizens who never cared very much about foreign policy, much less Israel-Palestine specifically. And, now that that indifference has been plainly revealed on the Republican side of the ledger, it may not be long before Democratic voters also start to say, loud enough for their leaders to hear, that Israel isn’t important to them either. As Shaley suggests, what is happening here is the exposure of Israel’s weakness in the United States.
Thus, for the first time it is becoming publicly noticeable that a lot of voters don’t regard Israel as a linchpin ally upholding democracy in the Middle East. In fact, Israel simply is not a priority as far as they are concerned. However, start emphasizing to this largely isolationist-minded crowd the huge amount of their tax money that goes to Israel, and not caring might quickly turn to hostility. Mr. Trump is certainly not above providing the little push necessary for this to happen. How might this scenario play itself out?
If Trump becomes president and, like most of his predecessors, tries to settle the Israel-Palestine problem, he will no doubt be met with not only the usual Israeli stonewalling, but outright hostility. After all, Trump as president will have to deal with Netanyahu as prime minister and they are alike in that both tend to “shoot from the lip.”
As Shaley points out, “Trump refuses to acknowledge United Jerusalem [and] wants to remain neutral so that he can broker a peace deal with the Palestinians, which is a challenge worthy of a master dealmaker like him.” Netanyahu will loudly express his opposition. Perhaps he will refuse to deal with Trump at all. But Trump, unlike Obama, will not respond to Netanyahu’s insults with discretion. He will readily blame Israel for any failure and do it loudly and disparagingly. Then he might start to publicly question why the U.S. should be wasting vast amounts of treasure on such an unthankful nation as Israel. This could be a public relations disaster from which the Israelis will not be able to recover.
Waning Interest in Israel (U.S. Jews)
As an Israeli born and bred to the perennial fear of anti-Semitism, Shaley senses a danger in Trump not only to Israel but to Jews in general. “The Jews will run away from Trump because he scares them. Because his demagoguery is ominous, his willingness to slash and burn anyone standing in his way is disturbing, his tendency to incite his supporters against other ethnic groups … is a source of deep anxiety.”
All of this may be true, but so is the important point Shaley makes that “the Jews won’t be fleeing Trump because of his policies toward Israel.” In other words, increasing numbers of U.S. Jews are losing patience in the ever stubborn shenanigans of the Zionist state. And as they do so, Israel loses their support.
The truth is that today’s Zionists have bought a political elite and not much more. Right now they can rely on a thin veneer of politicos who are in the process of losing influence with an alienated citizenry. When the politicians make their adjustments to this new environment, one of the casualties may well be the U.S. alliance with Israel. Hillary, Bernie, Ted and Marco may be the last generation of American politicians who will give Benjamin Netanyahu and his ilk the time of day.
“The Jews will run away from Trump because he scares them. Because his demagoguery is ominous, his willingness to slash and burn anyone standing in his way is disturbing, his tendency to incite his supporters against other ethnic groups … is a source of deep anxiety.”
Sheldon Adelson on supporting Trump: 'Why not?'
By ELIZA COLLINS 03/16/16 11:08 AM EDT
If Donald Trump is the nominee, Republican megadonor Sheldon Adelson says, “Why not" support him?
“Trump is a businessman. I am a businessman. He employs a lot of people. I employed 50,000 people. Why not?” Adelson said during a gala in Las Vegas in February.
“It reminds me of [a joke]: One Jewish man said to another Jewish man, ‘Do you know why Jews always answer a question with a question?’ So, the guy said, ‘Why not?’” Adelson said in comments first reported by Israeli blogger Tal Schneider. Jewish Insider later covered the report.
Adelson was speaking at a gala in honor of former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, who has signaled he supports Trump, though he hasn’t officially endorsed him.
“The real Trump is thoughtful, intelligent and very well-educated. He has extensive political knowledge, and he chooses to support good people,” Giuliani said in an interview with Israel Hayom on Monday.
Adelson owns the paper.
The wicked deeds of this horde are not merely historical events; as many witnessed this weekend, an American hating brigand attempted to take the life of Donald Trump.
Posting to social media their plans and appearances in a desperate attempt for social approval of their Maoist tactics.
In the current year, it is very difficult to disabuse them of such a fantasy. Within 24 hours, the man who attempted to assassinate Mr. Trump in Dayton, Ohio, was released from jail and being interviewed on CNN. Within 24 hours an avowed anti-American bigot that tried to kill a presidential candidate was being interviewed by a major US news network like a national hero. Today in the United States, hating America and attacking American patriots is celebrated, while loving the USA and defending patriots is ridiculed as “extremism” or other sophistries. With the establishment, both left and right, against any effort to Make America Great Again, we cannot expect traditional channels of influence to stem this perfidious tide. Make America Great Again cannot be a mere slogan, it has to become a life choice in the face of force that wants to make America cinders forever.
As patriotic Americans, we must stand up to them. How to stand up to them is the issue. One suggestion is creating a paramilitary organization to patrol future Trump rallies and stop any violence by the America-hating fiends.
The Lion Guard is a call to put the words “Make America Great Again” into action and aid Trump’s security and show our adversaries we are disciplined, perceptive, and watching.
Luther Blissett » Thu Mar 17, 2016 2:18 pm wrote:Jeff's on this Trump brownshirt militia thing.The Lion Guard is a call to put the words “Make America Great Again” into action and aid Trump’s security and show our adversaries we are disciplined, perceptive, and watching.
When asked about the possibility of a contested convention, Ryan said there is a "perception that this is more likely to become an open convention than we thought before."
"So we're getting our minds around the idea that this could very well become a reality, and therefore, those of us who are involved in the convention need to respect that," Ryan said.
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