Friday night Pandemic Watch - Swine Flu coming to you?

[AhabsOtherLeg]

LEAKED CFR AUDIO RECORDING!!! - How to get the public to take the h1n1 vaccine!

I would like to hear more of the CFR meeting recording and less of the other crap. The heavy handed Alex Jones-esque production is not helping me take this seriously. Did find Laurie Garrett on the CFR website but who are the other voices? Are they from the meeting? Why are 'expose' videos so often presented in such a cartoonish way? It just assures that it will not be taken seriously by most people. CIA produced perhaps?

Yeah, sadly I have to agree. On the one hand, it does seem genuine... but they've presented it in a way that makes it easier to dismiss.

This is genuine, however, and shows just how changeable the authorities can be on health matters to suit whatever agenda they're currently forwarding:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZArebYZzdc

Might have been posted already in the thread.
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[Sounder]

whipstitch, I hear you on the ‘press’ part and filler material in that clip. I'm always torn between thinking about the producers as buffoons or as counter-narrative controllers.

Thanks Slad, the audio of the CFR folk while settled in their native habitat shows well how consensus makers enforce the consensus. I think it shows how, if ones personal identity depends on a certain belief, then most people will believe that thing. Everything in these folk’s belief structures convinces themselves that they are doing ‘good’. They do not seem to be consciously ‘plotting’ evil, and I think many of them would be quite surprised if they found out they were connected to something nasty, let alone evil.

The virus is in the intellect.

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I would like to hear more of the CFR meeting recording and less of the other crap.

Ask, and you shall receive:

http://www.cfr.org/publication/20439/pa ... uenza.html

Full length video to boot.

[whipstitch]

I would like to hear more of the CFR meeting recording and less of the other crap.

Ask, and you shall receive:

http://www.cfr.org/publication/20439/pa ... uenza.html

Full length video to boot.

They post the 'secret meeting' video on their own website?!

[stickdog99]

Damn. The Big Pharma astroturfers are all over that tuna sandwich soundbite.

[tazmic]

Damn. The Big Pharma astroturfers are all over that tuna sandwich soundbite.

Yeah, I think they should inject themselves with (less than all of) their tuna sandwich, to prove their point.

[lightningBugout]

That video is a joke. It is a terribly produced hit piece on a very boring public health gathering. Yawn.

[chiggerbit]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 03016.html




By Rob Stein
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, November 4, 2009; 3:04 PM


Does the swine flu pandemic pose a threat to your pet? Yes, according to a report out today from the American Veterinary Medical Association.

A cat in Iowa has tested positive for the H1N1 virus, state officials confirmed this morning, "marking the first time a cat has been diagnosed with this strain of influenza," the association said in a statement.

"The cat, which has recovered, is believed to have caught the virus from someone in the household who was sick with H1N1. There are no indications that the cat passed the virus on to any other animals or people," the statement said.

The cat is 13 years old, and state health officials said two of the three family members that own the cat had suffered "influenza-like illness" before the cat got sick.They recovered too.

Before this kitty was diagnosed with the swine flu, the virus had been found in humans, pigs, birds and ferrets, the association said.

It is well known that some viruses can be transmitted from people to their pets so the case of the Iowa cat isn't a surprise. But the case is prompting the association, along with the American Association of Feline Practitioners, to remind pet owners "they should monitor their pets' health very closely, no matter what type of animal, and visit a veterinarian if there are any signs of illness."

[stickdog99]

If you are thinking of getting the inhaler vaccine to avoid the shot of thimerosal, please think again.

http://wonder.cdc.gov/vaers.html

Adverse self-reported reactions (widely estimated to be underreported by at least a factor of 10) for the new H1N1 FLUMIST, so far:

4 deaths
16 permanent disabilities
22 life threatening incidents
10 prolonged hospitalizations
153 other hospitalizations
480 emergency room visits
2332 not serious

I don't know what the number vaccinated with FLUMIST vs. the numbers vaccinated by injection are so far, but the raw numbers are plenty scary, and far scarier than swine flu. I encourage anyone considering FLUMIST to read these accounts first.

[lightningBugout]

Stickdog, the thimerosal is NOT in the bulk-size vaccines that are being given at the public clinics. Nor is Squalene.

[chiggerbit]

http://tinyurl.com/yfztc9w

Commercial pigs in Ind. test positive for H1N1

By HENRY C. JACKSON (AP) – 2 hours ago

WASHINGTON — The U.S. Department of Agriculture said Wednesday that pigs in a commercial herd in Indiana have tested positive for swine flu, making it the first time the virus has been found in such hogs.

The USDA said it discovered four tissue samples that tested positive for the virus using its swine surveillance program.

The sample was collected in late October, and the USDA said the pigs as well as the people caring for the animals have recovered.

Last month, tests confirmed that several show pigs at the Minnesota State Fair contracted swine flu, also known as the H1N1 virus.

The USDA declined to say where in Indiana the sick pigs were located.

USDA officials have stressed repeatedly that instances of pigs with swine flu do not pose a threat to consumers of pork products.

Still, word of a commercial herd contracting the virus for the first time is bad news for the pork industry, which has struggled with poor prices blamed on swine flu fears and the global recession.

Agriculture experts expected that swine flu would eventually show up in domestic swine and a vaccine for hogs is being developed but not yet available. News of the virus in pigs came after herd infections in several other countries, including Canada, Australia, Argentina, Ireland, the United Kingdom and Norway.

The positive tests in Indiana came just days after U.S. officials successfully negotiated an end to one of the more damaging commercial effects of swine flu — a six-month ban on pork imports to China. Officials expect the Chinese to reopen their import markets, offering pork producers an opportunity to export to what was their fastest growing market before the swine flu outbreak.

Copyright © 2009 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.

[stickdog99]

Stickdog, the thimerosal is NOT in the bulk-size vaccines that are being given at the public clinics. Nor is Squalene.

You are sadly misinformed on this. I produced all three inserts. Did you simply ignore them? All multivial formulations (meaning 99% of all available injectable vaccinations) contain thimerosal, as do all multivial seasonal flu shots.

[Pele'sDaughter]

http://www.reuters.com/article/healthNe ... ZG20091104

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A cat in Iowa has tested positive for H1N1 swine flu, the first time a cat has been diagnosed with the new pandemic strain, the American Veterinary Medical Association said on Wednesday.

The 13-year-old cat apparently caught the virus from one of the people living in the house, the group said in a statement. It has recovered and does not appear to have infected anyone or anything else.

Pigs are the original source of the H1N1 virus and it has been found in several herds, as well as in a pet ferret. Ferrets are especially susceptible to human influenza viruses.

"Two of the three members of the family that owns the pet had suffered from influenza-like illness before the cat became ill," Iowa Department of Public Health Veterinarian Dr. Ann Garvey said in a statement.

"This is not completely unexpected, as other strains of influenza have been found in cats in the past." Both the cat and its owners have recovered from their illnesses.

The AVMA has a website on H1N1 illnesses in U.S. animals at www.avma.org/public_health/influenza/new_virus. Dogs and horses also can catch various influenza strains, although none have so far been diagnosed with H1N1.

"Indoor pets that live in close proximity to someone who has been sick are at risk and it is wise to monitor their health to ensure they aren't showing signs of illness," said Dr. David Schmitt, state veterinarian for Iowa.

The new H1N1 passes easily from person to person and has infected millions globally since March, killing at least 5,000 people whose infections have been documented.

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I hate reports like these because they omit a vital point of information.

Was the person, who gave the cat the virus, previously vaccinated?

The H1N1 vaccine has a live virus.

Which could've been transmitted to the cat.

News reports generally tend to omit this part of the picture, I'm noticing.

The part that asks...

was the transmitter of H1N1... either to another human or an animal... previously vaccinated?

http://www.reuters.com/article/healthNews/idUSTRE5A33ZG20091104

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A cat in Iowa has tested positive for H1N1 swine flu, the first time a cat has been diagnosed with the new pandemic strain, the American Veterinary Medical Association said on Wednesday.

The 13-year-old cat apparently caught the virus from one of the people living in the house, the group said in a statement. It has recovered and does not appear to have infected anyone or anything else.

Pigs are the original source of the H1N1 virus and it has been found in several herds, as well as in a pet ferret. Ferrets are especially susceptible to human influenza viruses.

"Two of the three members of the family that owns the pet had suffered from influenza-like illness before the cat became ill," Iowa Department of Public Health Veterinarian Dr. Ann Garvey said in a statement.

"This is not completely unexpected, as other strains of influenza have been found in cats in the past." Both the cat and its owners have recovered from their illnesses.

The AVMA has a website on H1N1 illnesses in U.S. animals at www.avma.org/public_health/influenza/new_virus. Dogs and horses also can catch various influenza strains, although none have so far been diagnosed with H1N1.

"Indoor pets that live in close proximity to someone who has been sick are at risk and it is wise to monitor their health to ensure they aren't showing signs of illness," said Dr. David Schmitt, state veterinarian for Iowa.

The new H1N1 passes easily from person to person and has infected millions globally since March, killing at least 5,000 people whose infections have been documented.

[lightningBugout]

Stickdog, the thimerosal is NOT in the bulk-size vaccines that are being given at the public clinics. Nor is Squalene.

You are sadly misinformed on this. I produced all three inserts. Did you simply ignore them. All multivial formulations (meaning 99% of all available injectable vaccinations) contain thimerosal, as do all multivial seasonal flu shots.

I was actually mistaken -- it is the single dose vaccines that do not contain thimerosal. Nor does the mist. Your reference to multivial being 99% - where did you get that number?