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Re: Aurora CO Theater Massacre

Postby 8bitagent » Sun Aug 19, 2012 8:05 am

Alchemy wrote:
I will add that the more I think about all of this with some of what you have to say, the more I think we are all being prepped for a civil right vs left war. I am not even close to being a doomsdayer who predicts these sorts of events all the time but it sure seems things are getting a little too crazy for comfort anymore.


For some reason it feels like ALL sorts of shit is about to hit the fan worldwide. It's like some sort of week long constipation, and someone took a handful of ex-lax.
You can just sense the tension. I just got home from a party, and every headline is about all these schisms(mass russian protests, assange saga, downing of a high level Sudanese cabinet plane,
tensions between China and Japan rising, etc) Business as usual, sure. But something fierce, soon, feels like it's about to rear its head. Shit bout' to get crazy.
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Re: Aurora CO Theater Massacre

Postby 8bitagent » Sun Aug 19, 2012 8:57 am

Alchemy wrote:You know, I have been studying this type of stuff for years and years now (and I still have no answers BTW), I remember back in the early days of the internets there was a lot of good, honest and critical discussion of things like this, nobody really had an agenda it was just open and honest discussion of the world and what is going on around us, much like we see on CLK's blog and others, like Jeff's work. Then slowly you could see a shift take place, the infiltration of these small groups pocketed throughout the internets, shills started showing up and introducing these crazy and whacked out ideas about how Jews/Zionists/Israel is to blame for all the world's problems, the commies, the liberals (interestingly they rarely blame the "fascists", I wonder why?!), the Freemasons, the Illuminati, the reptiles, Nibiru, "Aussie Bloke", bohemian grove et al. This all came to a head with 9-11, Alex Jones, Rense, Makow (just to name a few) and the "truth" movement and all their whacked out ideas about the planes being holographs etc (though I admittedly do not believe the official narrative) and all of the good honest open discussion like we see today with CLK and others, slowly took a back seat to this crazy stuff and then you started to see feature films by Disney, Dan Brown etc, about this stuff and it became sort of cool and envogue to be "conspiracy theorist" and a whole cottage industry was built around it, books, DVDs etc, and it continued to get more and more whacked out by the day to the point now it is really hard to find good honest discussion about the world and what is going on around us, anymore. If you go back and really look you can see it all happening, I have to assume this was all part of a Cointelpro psy op to redirect the attention of those who tend to see patterns, like CLK talks about, and get them to focus more on the outrageous and preposterous. And, you know, we can see that it worked and worked quite well, now anyone who talks about these things is pretty much made out to be a complete kook who should be dismissed out of hand and made fun of "oh, youre one of those huh?"

Got to hand it to them, they really did a good job getting everyone to focus on the crazy and forget about the truth.


I know it has to be a thankless task that you have undertaken CLK, but I hope you can find it within yourself to keep plugging along and asking the tough questions, if for no reason than for posterity, perhaps in the future someone will recognize it all for what it is and can work to make the world a better place because that should be the point of it all, I dont just read this stuff for fun and games, although it has taken the life of a hobby over the years, I truly would like to find a way to bring an end to this madness and make the world better and safer for our kids and grandkids etc.


I angrily defended "conspiracy theorist" culture and views from left/right attackers on and offline. Now I 'get it'. I no longer can stomach or associate with most the 'conspiracy theorists'
anymore I can stand their detractors. While a lot of questioners(my nicer word for conspiracy theorism) who spout disinfo memes do so innocently, I long got fed up with the almost militant
extremist views. That sort of Alex Jones 'my way or the highway'. I've had the royal displeasure of being in the company of unstable paranoid types who have little room for sanity.
Yes, I strongly believe organized SRA victim testimony, the Mothman and Ruwa school eye witnesses, and other things a lot of people might scoff at. But I can also sense there's a lot of people
who stew in their own fantasy.

We're talking about a subculture that is so paranoid as to accuse people they disagree with as "paid government shills". In other words, there's no responsibility nor rigor/intuition.

My sort of "conspiracy theorists" are Dave Emory, John Judge, Nafeez Ahmed, Peter Dale Scott, Jeff Wells and so forth. In retrospect the whole "9/11 Truth" circus of the 2005-2007
period makes me kind of queasy. Yelling in people's faces about "OMG INSIDE JOB, CONTROLLED DEMOLITION YOU SHEEPLE" just looks retarded. And there was very few "smart" truthers by 2006.
Now it feels like even most liberals have defaulted back to "Muslims dun it". The critical mass of the public questioning 9/11 in 2006 was just a constructed fad. It was hip, trendy, not real.
Smart trutherism is what always appealed to me. But I also cant stand the whole Godlikeproductions/ATS/Arctic Beacon/Rense type hoi polloi. The idiots always posting about ZIONIST conspiracy garbage agitate me the most, as well as the OMG ILLUMINATI!

That said, I also openly speak of what I see as unexplainable esoteric elements embedded into many events, but I try and make a distinction between real cold case facts(money trails, informants, etc) and food-for-thought Jake Kotze/Adachi/David Ickian like speculation. Synchro(mysticism) to me is highly woven into many events, genuinely linking seemingly disparate cases together. But
I find it more important to show the real life(deep state) connective tissue to all these things.

But bottom line, it's easy for people to become consumed in their own dogma and agendas. I dont like the gun worshipping militia/Alex Jones patriot right wing bullcrap, the new agey stuff, the Zionist obsessed theorists, the "illuminati symbolism in Lady Gaga video" folks, and I also get tired of the "CIA is behind everything", which is about as silly as "al Qaeda is behind everything".
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Re: Aurora CO Theater Massacre

Postby chump » Sun Aug 19, 2012 8:59 am

http://aangirfan.blogspot.com/2012/08/b ... rious.html

http://www.theendrun.com/batman-shootin ... d-drowning

Nurse Who "Saw Everything" At Hospital After Suspicious Batman Shooting Found Dead At 46

Aug 17, 2012
Jenny Gallagher, a nurse who treated victims of the highly suspicious “Batman” shooting in Aurora, Colorado last month, is dead at age 46. The reported cause of death: drowning.

“She worked the morning after the Batman massacre in a very busy unit of the hospital — so she saw everything really, some really bad injuries,” her husband Greg reportedly told Ireland’s Herald earlier today.

The mass-shooting, which left 12 dead and 58 more injured at a midnight premiere of The Dark Knight Rises at Century theater, is widely suspected to have been a black operation (akin to Columbine or the Sikh Temple shooting) based on the available evidence, numerous inconsistencies and implausibilities in the “official story”, the timing, and the way the event has been framed (some would say exploited) by certain powerful interests in the media and political arena. See for example…

Obama Seeks US Congressional Ratification of UN Global Gun Control Treaty, Susanne Posel (July 16)

Colorado Batman shooting shows obvious signs of being staged, Natural News (July 20)

James Holmes Batman shooting to justify UN small arms treaty gun grab?, Mike Adams (July 21)

Eyewitness: Second Shooter in Batman Massacre, YouTube, (July 21)

Witness: Someone let gunman inside Colorado movie theater, CNN/PrisonPlanet.com (July 22)

Colorado University Had Identical Drill On Same Day As ‘Batman’ Massacre, Paul Joseph Watson (July 23)

Shooter James Holmes and DARPA Weird Science, Kurt Nimmo/Wayne Madsen (July 24)

Fox News Channel Questions Narrative Of ‘Batman’ Massacre, Infowars/WXIX-Fox19 (July 25)

Gun Owners of America President Larry Pratt: Batman Shooting Could be Staged (July 27)

James Holmes Is Behaving Like Sirhan Sirhan, Paul Joseph Watson, (July 27)

Why Are Republicans Calling To Disarm The American People?, Paul Joseph Watson, (July 30)

The Batman op expands: you shot those people, Jon Rappoport (Aug 3)

U.C.H. HEROINE MEETS OBAMA

Jennifer Ann Gallagher (“Jenny”) lived in Denver and worked at the University of Colorado Hospital (UCH), where the largest share of the victims of the shooting were taken in the aftermath of the July 20th theater massacre. On July 22nd, Barack Obama personally visited the hospital to meet with the victims and staff. In a speech, Obama praised the UCH staff for their “extraordinary efforts”. As he spoke, he was flanked by Colorado Governor Hickenlooper, Aurora Police chief Oats, and several Congressmen...

... WHEN AND WHERE: THE SCANT EARLY REPORTS OF GALLAGHER’S DEATH
Gallagher was actually found dead ten days ago, on August 7th. Despite recent conflicting and incorrect reports about the location (multiple reports say it was in Colorado, while another says Ohio), The End Run has determined that she was actually found dead in Okoboji Lake, which is in Dickson County, Iowa, about 700 miles from her home town of Denver by car.

Within 24 hours or less of the discovery of her body, a short blurb about the death, which did not identify her by name, was published by the Associated Press and picked up by several local media outlets. It read:

Drowning reported at West Okoboji Lake
OKOBOJI, Iowa (AP) — Authorities say someone has drowned at West Okoboji Lake in northwest Iowa.

The Dickinson County Sheriff’s Office said officers responded to a report of a drowning a little after noon on Tuesday.


The office hasn’t released the victim’s name or any other details about the drowning.

On the morning of August 8th, the day after her body was reportedly discovered, the Dickson County Sheriff’s office issued a press release (cache) identifying Gallagher as the victim (although they misspelled her name) and providing a few additional details:

Victim identified in West Okoboji drowning

Published on Wednesday, 08 August 2012 06:30

On Tuesday, August 7, the Dickinson County Sheriff’s Office responded to a drowning on West Lake Okoboji. An investigation found that Jennifer Galagher, age 46, from Denver, Colorado, had been swimming the previous night in West Lake. On Tuesday morning, Galagher was reported missing by family.

A short time later, a family member located Galagher underneath a nearby dock. Medical personnel responded and she was pronounced dead at the scene.

Assisting the DCSO were:
Milford Fire/Rescue
Arnolds Park/Okoboji Dive Team
Lakes Regional Healthcare Ambulance

The incident remains under investigation by the Dickinson County Sheriff’s Office.

The AP then published another blurb based on this press release, which was reworked and/or republished by numerous local media outlets, primarily in Iowa, where she was found dead, and in Denver, Colorado, where she lived. However, none of the short stories published in the local press at the time appear to have mentioned her connection to the then-highly-topical “Batman shooting”, or virtually any biographical information about her. The death of this national heroine does not appear to have been picked up at all by the major U.S. national media. [Note: If this is incorrect, please send in links to the relevant stories by e-mail.]

DELAYED REVELATION

Yesterday, nine days after her body was found, an article was published by Ireland’s Herald which finally revealed some information about Gallagher and broke the story of her status as a UCH nurse and witness to the bloody aftermath of the carnage in Aurora...

...Regarding the question of how Jenny died, the new Herald article says (cache):

Greg explained that the family had travelled [sic] to nearby Ohio [sic] for a holiday when Jenny tragically drowned.

He and Jack had gone to sleep when Jenny and her friend decided to take a boat out on to a lake.

“She wasn’t a very strong swimmer and I suppose she just wasn’t able to stay afloat.

“The hardest thing is I may never know what really happened to Jenny.”...
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Re: Aurora CO Theater Massacre

Postby 8bitagent » Sun Aug 19, 2012 9:03 am

Rodney King, William Colby, this Aurora massacre hero.

I guess we can add "drownicided" to the list of suspicious death possibilities. Still tripping over Rodney King being found dead in his pool 7777 days after that infamous day.
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Re: Aurora CO Theater Massacre

Postby Hunter » Sun Aug 19, 2012 9:55 am

8bitagent wrote:
Alchemy wrote:
I will add that the more I think about all of this with some of what you have to say, the more I think we are all being prepped for a civil right vs left war. I am not even close to being a doomsdayer who predicts these sorts of events all the time but it sure seems things are getting a little too crazy for comfort anymore.


For some reason it feels like ALL sorts of shit is about to hit the fan worldwide. It's like some sort of week long constipation, and someone took a handful of ex-lax.
You can just sense the tension. I just got home from a party, and every headline is about all these schisms(mass russian protests, assange saga, downing of a high level Sudanese cabinet plane,
tensions between China and Japan rising, etc) Business as usual, sure. But something fierce, soon, feels like it's about to rear its head. Shit bout' to get crazy.

Yeap all that and more, like the drought causing food shortages and prices to go way up. When people start getting hungry that is when it will spill over and we are not far from that.
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Re: Aurora CO Theater Massacre

Postby brainpanhandler » Sun Aug 19, 2012 11:33 am

8bit wrote: I also get tired of the "CIA is behind everything", which is about as silly as "al Qaeda is behind everything".


Not even close.
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Re: Aurora CO Theater Massacre

Postby compared2what? » Sun Aug 19, 2012 4:26 pm

brainpanhandler wrote:
8bit wrote: I also get tired of the "CIA is behind everything", which is about as silly as "al Qaeda is behind everything".


Not even close.


Hm. If I understand what 8bit is saying -- "It's just as silly to continually, reflexively blame one single demonized entity for everything as it is another," more or less -- I not only agree with him but also think he's speaking an important political truth.

I might not understand what he's saying, though. I mean, I obviously wouldn't know. But I often suspect that I don't.
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Re: Aurora CO Theater Massacre

Postby compared2what? » Sun Aug 19, 2012 4:44 pm

Alchemy wrote:True C2W, but honestly those who hate Romney dont scare me in to thinking they will turn violent if he wins as much as those who hate Obama do, they, IMO, are primed and pumped and armed and ready to start their race war.

But your point is a good one.


If you know what the hell I was talking about, you're way ahead of me, to be honest. But thank you!

(I was really just trying to say that Obama might not be reelected. And that's not exactly a difficult idea to put into words. So I have absolutely no clue as to how or why I failed to do it. I apologize.)
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Re: Aurora CO Theater Massacre

Postby Hunter » Sun Aug 19, 2012 5:18 pm

Ah, ok, I see. He may not be, youre right, but if I was betting man I would bet that he will be. Not that it really matters anymore, really.
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Re: Aurora CO Theater Massacre

Postby thatsmystory » Sun Aug 19, 2012 6:40 pm

What does it mean to say Jenny Gallagher saw everything? To me it sounds like a typical conspiracy quote that supposedly explains all you need to know. Bullet wounds? Blood? Was she a ballistics expert? Did she recognize irregular wound patterns?

The reporting on her death is awful. Hopefully some news service will dare to follow up and interview the friend who was apparently at the scene of the drowning.
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Re: Aurora CO Theater Massacre

Postby brainpanhandler » Sun Aug 19, 2012 9:07 pm

compared2what? wrote:
brainpanhandler wrote:
8bit wrote: I also get tired of the "CIA is behind everything", which is about as silly as "al Qaeda is behind everything".


Not even close.


Hm. If I understand what 8bit is saying -- "It's just as silly to continually, reflexively blame one single demonized entity for everything as it is another," more or less -- I not only agree with him but also think he's speaking an important political truth.

I might not understand what he's saying, though. I mean, I obviously wouldn't know. But I often suspect that I don't.

While I agree it would be silly to say the cia is behind everything, whatever everything signifies, nonetheless it is much much sillier to say al qaeda is behind everything is all I meant. He made a comparison. This is especially true when one takes cia to be shorthand for all the intel alphabet agencies, which I do and don't know why you wouldn't. Be that as it may I take your point that granting the cia more power than they actually have isn't in anyone's interest except them.
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Re: Aurora CO Theater Massacre

Postby Luther Blissett » Sun Aug 19, 2012 9:10 pm

compared2what? wrote:
brainpanhandler wrote:
8bit wrote: I also get tired of the "CIA is behind everything", which is about as silly as "al Qaeda is behind everything".


Not even close.


Hm. If I understand what 8bit is saying -- "It's just as silly to continually, reflexively blame one single demonized entity for everything as it is another," more or less -- I not only agree with him but also think he's speaking an important political truth.

I might not understand what he's saying, though. I mean, I obviously wouldn't know. But I often suspect that I don't.


Last summer, there was a horrific rape in my neighborhood right around the corner from my house. The event had a huge psychological impact on my neighbors and was out of the realm of an ordinary crime, even as far as rapes go.

We all know some people who would weave this story into a spook crime because of the level of fear it instilled in the district for a full season.

The CIA wasn't responsible for this crime.
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Re: Aurora CO Theater Massacre

Postby 8bitagent » Sun Aug 19, 2012 9:46 pm

compared2what? wrote:
brainpanhandler wrote:
8bit wrote: I also get tired of the "CIA is behind everything", which is about as silly as "al Qaeda is behind everything".


Not even close.


Hm. If I understand what 8bit is saying -- "It's just as silly to continually, reflexively blame one single demonized entity for everything as it is another," more or less -- I not only agree with him but also think he's speaking an important political truth.

I might not understand what he's saying, though. I mean, I obviously wouldn't know. But I often suspect that I don't.


Well when I really put on my tri-cornered tinfoil hat, I often believe these 'shadowy' forces we blame(CIA, al Kwayduh terruh-ists, banksters, etc) aren't even aware of the higher, blacker level of manipulation they're under. I've come to think there may be much more baffling forces at work than some clandestine wing of the CIA brainwashing failed students to shoot up places.
Seeing certain cues, language...in the post 9/11 landscape for instance, I started to get the vibe that the trick was to make most of the CIA/FBI/government genuinely believe there's an "al Qaeda" threat. I wouldnt be surprised if Cheney sits in his Wyoming addict rocking back and forth forthily gibbering on about "getting al Qaeda". Yeah it goes against common truther beliefs, but I came to believe Cheney and company genuinely are consumed and obsessed with this "Islamic scourge"...maybe thats the trick of how they're manipulated. To me they're all windup toys.
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Re: Aurora CO Theater Massacre

Postby 8bitagent » Sun Aug 19, 2012 9:48 pm

compared2what? wrote:
Alchemy wrote:True C2W, but honestly those who hate Romney dont scare me in to thinking they will turn violent if he wins as much as those who hate Obama do, they, IMO, are primed and pumped and armed and ready to start their race war.

But your point is a good one.


If you know what the hell I was talking about, you're way ahead of me, to be honest. But thank you!

(I was really just trying to say that Obama might not be reelected. And that's not exactly a difficult idea to put into words. So I have absolutely no clue as to how or why I failed to do it. I apologize.)


And sadly these knuckle dragging rightwingtards hate Obama for all the WRONG, fictitious reasons. Though I tend to hate governments more than individual figureheads.
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Re: Aurora CO Theater Massacre

Postby 8bitagent » Sun Aug 19, 2012 9:52 pm

brainpanhandler wrote:
compared2what? wrote:
brainpanhandler wrote:
8bit wrote: I also get tired of the "CIA is behind everything", which is about as silly as "al Qaeda is behind everything".


Not even close.


Hm. If I understand what 8bit is saying -- "It's just as silly to continually, reflexively blame one single demonized entity for everything as it is another," more or less -- I not only agree with him but also think he's speaking an important political truth.

I might not understand what he's saying, though. I mean, I obviously wouldn't know. But I often suspect that I don't.

While I agree it would be silly to say the cia is behind everything, whatever everything signifies, nonetheless it is much much sillier to say al qaeda is behind everything is all I meant. He made a comparison. This is especially true when one takes cia to be shorthand for all the intel alphabet agencies, which I do and don't know why you wouldn't. Be that as it may I take your point that granting the cia more power than they actually have isn't in anyone's interest except them.


CIA, al kwayduhs, Zionists, Masons, Illuminati, the Pentagon, the Vatican. There often feels like a dark, unified field or current running through so much of this pedo-narco-terror-intel-war-corporate-mass slaughter-abuse grid on the planet...I'm just wondering if it's at a level to which we can truly trace. We see visible elements like Dyncorp, Franklin, Gladio etc...but I wonder if something more hidden runs through it all . Maybe even the spooks are spooked. But then I have times where I think it's all random chaos and we simply want to put patterns...until I read a synchro blog and have an 'a ha!' moment. It's all pattern recognition, and I don't know what the hell is going on.
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