Aurora CO Theater Massacre

[Hunter]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qk6OOvgj ... e=youtu.be

[CLK]

I also get tired of the "CIA is behind everything", which is about as silly as "al Qaeda is behind everything".

Not even close.

Hm. If I understand what 8bit is saying -- "It's just as silly to continually, reflexively blame one single demonized entity for everything as it is another," more or less -- I not only agree with him but also think he's speaking an important political truth.

I might not understand what he's saying, though. I mean, I obviously wouldn't know. But I often suspect that I don't.

While I agree it would be silly to say the cia is behind everything, whatever everything signifies, nonetheless it is much much sillier to say al qaeda is behind everything is all I meant. He made a comparison. This is especially true when one takes cia to be shorthand for all the intel alphabet agencies, which I do and don't know why you wouldn't. Be that as it may I take your point that granting the cia more power than they actually have isn't in anyone's interest except them.

CIA, al kwayduhs, Zionists, Masons, Illuminati, the Pentagon, the Vatican. There often feels like a dark, unified field or current running through so much of this pedo-narco-terror-intel-war-corporate-mass slaughter-abuse grid on the planet...I'm just wondering if it's at a level to which we can truly trace. We see visible elements like Dyncorp, Franklin, Gladio etc...but I wonder if something more hidden runs through it all . Maybe even the spooks are spooked. But then I have times where I think it's all random chaos and we simply want to put patterns...until I read a synchro blog and have an 'a ha!' moment. It's all pattern recognition, and I don't know what the hell is going on.

Here's a hint, then: Virginia Republicans Call for Armed Revolution if Obama Wins in November

http://www.politicususa.com/virginia-republicans-call-armed-revolution-obama-wins-november.html

[barracuda]

^^For somebody who rails pretty hard against conspiracy-culture fear-mongering, you seem to have bought into that civil war theme rather deeply.

[CLK]

^^For somebody who rails pretty hard against conspiracy-culture fear-mongering, you seem to have bought into that civil war theme rather deeply.

Did you actually read that piece? It's entirely consistent with what I'm pointing out here. I'm talking about extreme right wing ideologues feeding massive doses of fear and paranoia- and indeed threats of violent revolution- into the culture here to serve a political agenda. If you're uncomfortable with the documented facts- or sympathetic to the aims being furthered by these parties- I can't help that.

EDIT: And let me add that what I'm saying is also entirely consistent with things Jeff has said on RI as well.

[barracuda]

Yes, I read it. It's southern white rhetoric that's been promulgated to successfully swing vote blocs since about 1870. What's new?

[CLK]

Yes, I read it. It's southern white rhetoric that's been promulgated to successfully swing vote blocs since about 1870. What's new?

I meant the piece that I wrote.

I'm starting to suspect a hidden agenda at work for sure with these shootings, barely hidden, but you won't hear about it on Red Ice or Alex Jones or any other so-called "conspiracy" site. Ask yourself why.

[Hunter]

Yes, I read it. It's southern white rhetoric that's been promulgated to successfully swing vote blocs since about 1870. What's new?

I meant the piece that I wrote.

I'm starting to suspect a hidden agenda at work for sure with these shootings, barely hidden, but you won't hear about it on Red Ice or Alex Jones or any other so-called "conspiracy" site. Ask yourself why.

Me too, it is becoming more clear by the day, it is either being used for political purposes or was manufactured for such.

[barracuda]

CLK, I linked to your writing primarily because of this quote:

The people who filled his head with terror won't suffer one bit- they'll continue to exploit the weak and gullible, scaring them with mirages rather than inspiring them to improve their lives through hard work, community effort and activism.

So my question is, how is what you're doing different than what you object to, when you seem perfectly content with passing on the political rhetoric of racist Republicans as having some sort of credence in reality? That is, linking to two articles about southern succession in the context of these recent spree killings.

Granted: racist political speech will ratchet during the run-up to the election, just as it did last time. But what are you suggesting here, exactly? A trend of targeted killing of Democrats, or killings within democratic districts to effect changes in certain election outcomes? And if so, targeted in what way, towards what issues? Because obviously second amendment issues aren't at stake anywhere in the US. And no one takes succession seriously, do they? As a real political possibility? So what do you think the program is?

[CLK]

CLK, I linked to your writing primarily because of this quote:

The people who filled his head with terror won't suffer one bit- they'll continue to exploit the weak and gullible, scaring them with mirages rather than inspiring them to improve their lives through hard work, community effort and activism.

So my question is, how is what you're doing different than what you object to, when you seem perfectly content with passing on the political rhetoric of racist Republicans as having some sort of credence in reality? That is, linking to two articles about southern succession in the context of these recent spree killings.

Granted: racist political speech will ratchet during the run-up to the election, just as it did last time. But what are you suggesting here, exactly? A trend of targeted killing of Democrats, or killings within democratic districts to effect changes in certain election outcomes? And if so, targeted in what way, towards what issues? Because obviously second amendment issues aren't at stake anywhere in the US. And no one takes succession seriously, do they? As a real political possibility? So what do you think the program is?

I have thought for some time that there is a deliberate program at work to polarize the country, to make it ungovernable. Take your pick as to what the endgame of that strategy is.

[82_28]

I will prosaically give the brain cancer the benefit of the doubt.

However, watching NBC's Today show as it opened, they literally went from announcing the death to cutting to the outside plaza where a bunch of Air Force dudes were there to show us Aurora the Falcon -- the mascot of the US Air Force. Literally it took 30 seconds. I fell asleep after that and am now up again and just remembered.

Taken as what it is, I can't help but be struck by the coincidence of Scott working on Top Gun 2, ostensibly as told up thread, to show kinda how much the Air Force has changed in the last 24 years, to the news of his suicide, to NBC just having the falcon named Aurora ready to go live and on air with his Air Force handler and other Air Force officers immediately.

So I decide to run some searches:

Many of the victims were Air Force peeps. Count how many times "Air Force" comes up in this summary of "remembering the dead":

http://denver.cbslocal.com/2012/07/21/n ... -released/

Note the Falcon-ish nature of Aurora as well. . .

https://www.google.com/search?q=Aurora+the+falcon

Also of note is the proximity of Gun Club Road. Being from Denver I've never understood how that road ever got its name.

I only bring any of this up because I happened to catch that bit this morning and the introduction of AURORA, a falcon and AIR FORCE films being on the mind. Also this is the year of 12. 12+12, 24.

Oh, good old RI. Where else could one speculate like this?

Gonna crosspost to Aurora thread btw. . .

[barracuda]

I have thought for some time that there is a deliberate program at work to polarize the country, to make it ungovernable.

Yes, but that's exactly what Alex Jones thinks as well. You seem to be approaching the same conclusion from a different angle.

Take your pick as to what the endgame of that strategy is.

Well, that's part of my problem with your thesis. In my experience, the goal of any game in this arena is money. And at the present time, the income source for the mil-industrial complex and their political sycophants pretty much hinges upon the continuity of contributions from the US tax base, so ungovernable chaos and civil war doesn't easily figure into that scenario as providing a viable ROI. Who wants to jeopardize two trillion yearly dollars in reliable income? Perhaps the advent of further security theater and militarized police forces could provide a revenue stream, I suppose. But again, those things are paid for by taxes. Largely.

[Hunter]

I am probably lost on all of this but I would say the difference between what CLK is saying and what AJ is saying is that CLK is just pointing out how they are using these scare tactics to push an agenda, he himself seems to have no agenda per se wrt to saying that whereas AJ says those things because he does in fact have an agenda being the shill for the right that he is.

Or maybe I am just not following it all properly. Dont mind me.

[CLK]

I have thought for some time that there is a deliberate program at work to polarize the country, to make it ungovernable.

Yes, but that's exactly what Alex Jones thinks as well. You seem to be approaching the same conclusion from a different angle.

Take your pick as to what the endgame of that strategy is.

Well, that's part of my problem with your thesis. In my experience, the goal of any game in this arena is money. And at the present time, the income source for the mil-industrial complex and their political sycophants pretty much hinges upon the continuity of contributions from the US tax base, so ungovernable chaos and civil war doesn't easily figure into that scenario as providing a viable ROI. Who wants to jeopardize two trillion yearly dollars in reliable income? Perhaps the advent of further security theater and militarized police forces could provide a revenue stream, I suppose. But again, those things are paid for by taxes. Largely.

Now you're just being insulting. Well, here's the end of it for you: Jones is a farce. He does the polarizing and then blames it on phantoms.

I know everyone gets off on these police state fantasies, but I like Jeff's idea that maybe the real nightmare is that the billionaires will just cut everyone loose and force them to fend for themselves. But I see the ultimate endgame as bringing it all full circle- returning America back to the resource-extraction colony it started off as. Or at least huge tracts of it. Look at all those red states and red counties- how interesting they all seem to be sitting on huge untapped supplies of natural resources.

[barracuda]

Now you're just being insulting.

I certainly wasn't trying to be, but I won't say it doesn't happen sometimes without trying. Anyway, apologies if it came off that way, and thanks for your responses.

[8bitagent]

I also get tired of the "CIA is behind everything", which is about as silly as "al Qaeda is behind everything".

Not even close.

Hm. If I understand what 8bit is saying -- "It's just as silly to continually, reflexively blame one single demonized entity for everything as it is another," more or less -- I not only agree with him but also think he's speaking an important political truth.

I might not understand what he's saying, though. I mean, I obviously wouldn't know. But I often suspect that I don't.

While I agree it would be silly to say the cia is behind everything, whatever everything signifies, nonetheless it is much much sillier to say al qaeda is behind everything is all I meant. He made a comparison. This is especially true when one takes cia to be shorthand for all the intel alphabet agencies, which I do and don't know why you wouldn't. Be that as it may I take your point that granting the cia more power than they actually have isn't in anyone's interest except them.

CIA, al kwayduhs, Zionists, Masons, Illuminati, the Pentagon, the Vatican. There often feels like a dark, unified field or current running through so much of this pedo-narco-terror-intel-war-corporate-mass slaughter-abuse grid on the planet...I'm just wondering if it's at a level to which we can truly trace. We see visible elements like Dyncorp, Franklin, Gladio etc...but I wonder if something more hidden runs through it all . Maybe even the spooks are spooked. But then I have times where I think it's all random chaos and we simply want to put patterns...until I read a synchro blog and have an 'a ha!' moment. It's all pattern recognition, and I don't know what the hell is going on.

Here's a hint, then: Virginia Republicans Call for Armed Revolution if Obama Wins in November

http://www.politicususa.com/virginia-republicans-call-armed-revolution-obama-wins-november.html

Frightening. I had no idea that Nugent had repeatedly made statements like that.

It *almost* makes me want to tone down my criticism of the Obama administration, til I realize those Pakistani villagers with limbs scattered about aren't coming back in this lifetime. And that's a sin I do find unforgiveable. Can't republicans find (evil) things about the Obama white house to like?

It is stunning how leftists and tea party tards can hate a president for completely different reasons and not even see the freaking irony in it