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Postby yathrib » Sat Sep 13, 2008 8:49 pm

I don't know about God, but I certainly believe in resurrection of the dead. How else do you explain all these months-old threads popping out of the grave?
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Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Sat Sep 13, 2008 8:51 pm

What a pointless waste of bandwith. Oh. I see.
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Postby FourthBase » Sat Sep 13, 2008 9:17 pm

I'm actually speechless. Give me a moment.

Late in life, totally insane and demented from untreated syphilis, he was found embracing a broken down old nag (horse) in Turin, Italy, weeping and praying.


Yes. And?

His devoted sister protected him as best she could for years after that, although he had totally lost his mind, and she brilliantly edited all his books.


THE FUCK SHE DID. SHE DID THE EXACT FUCKING OPPOSITE.

His sister Elisabeth is more responsible for his current canon than he is.


No, more responsible for the extent to which his reputation has been unfairly tainted and misunderstood. As in, it's just not fucking fair what she did. But I'm sure even her brother would have forgiven her.

I was in a top-level graduate seminar on Nietzsche one time (in a doctoral program in philosophy), with a world-famous Nietzsche scholar as the professor. One session, after about half an hour, the bullshit overcame me and I blurted out loudly: Nietzsche is a liar! This didn't help me in that course, but I still believe it.


Wow. Take that course again. 100,000 times, if you can. Until you finally understand Nietzsche, more or less. You could begin by reading what OP ED and I have posted. There are parts of Nietzsche I understand less than OP ED, and parts of Nietzsche I understand more than OP ED. Ever the two shall meet, hopefully.

I've never understood why he was treated as a serious philosopher. I own about 6 or 7 of his books, and have read most of them, and I think it's crap from start to finish.


Read them again. 100,000 times.

And, after all, it is said to have led to the Nazis.


Elizabeth is partly responsible for that. If only Nietzsche had actually possessed the power to have all anti-semites shot. He certainly willed it, though.
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Postby FourthBase » Sat Sep 13, 2008 9:25 pm

Hugh Manatee Wins wrote:What a pointless waste of bandwith. Oh. I see.


Huh?
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Postby Pierre d'Achoppement » Sat Sep 13, 2008 9:32 pm

Welcome to the room Sarah
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Postby FourthBase » Sat Sep 13, 2008 9:35 pm

Pierre d'Achoppement wrote:Welcome to the room Sarah


Huh?
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Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Sat Sep 13, 2008 10:15 pm

FourthBase wrote:
Pierre d'Achoppement wrote:Welcome to the room Sarah


Huh?


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Postby Wilbur Whatley » Sat Sep 13, 2008 11:19 pm

FourthBase, I almost got a Ph.D. in philosophy. I've read many philosphers.

There are some I like very much, such as Bertrand Russell or Carl Jung (picking two from opposite poles).

There are some I just could not stand, such as Nietzsche and Hegel. I've read a lot from each, and I just plain reject them in toto.

I think Nietzsche's idea on ethics (Beyond Good and Evil) are very dangerous and false.

I'll leave it at that.

But let me say, it has been a very, very long time since I read about him and his sister. Perhaps I'm wrong in my recollection about that, and I'd be happy to be corrected. I know there are a lot of myths and legends about that, and you and I may have dipped from different ends of the pool of legend.
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Postby marmot » Sun Sep 14, 2008 12:35 am

Nietzsche is dead..
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Postby FourthBase » Sun Sep 14, 2008 12:47 am

marmot wrote:Nietzsche is dead..


Actually...
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Postby marmot » Sun Sep 14, 2008 1:02 am

FourthBase wrote:
marmot wrote:Nietzsche is dead..

Actually...


Well, Nietzsche is at least physically dead---though his spirit lives merrily on in academic departments everywhere..
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Postby FourthBase » Sun Sep 14, 2008 1:20 am

Horatio:
O day and night, but this is wondrous strange!

Hamlet:
And therefore as a stranger give it welcome.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
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Postby Wilbur Whatley » Sun Sep 14, 2008 2:16 am

Touche.
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Postby Penguin » Sun Sep 14, 2008 5:32 am

Whats with the invasion of the Nietzzsche here lately :D
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