BREAKING: Hughes Arrested for 1981 Alavarez Murders

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Postby American Dream » Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:58 pm

Virginia McCullough sent me a response to Dr. Doogie's post, which I will reproduce here:

Dr_Doogie wrote:
Kate Dixon and Virginia McCullough claim to be objective journalists, but the actions betray them more as the public relations "crisis response team" for alumni of Cabazon Arms. Just look at which cases grab their attention and what they say about them:

Virginia McCullough wrote:
Does Dr_Doogie have the corporate papers for Cabazon Arms? Does Dr_Doogie have any idea of who was a member of Cabazon Arms and who was not? Is he/she just blowing smoke or have they done their homework? How long have they researched this issue?



Dr_Doogie wrote:
Richard Hamlin: His defense was that his wife was under the influence of her father, Sid Seimer, who worked for Cabazon Arms. KD and VM did their best to bury Hamlin and he ended up being sentenced to life for what was nothing more than a domestic violence case. Mission accomplished!

Virginia McCullough wrote:
Richard Hamlin’s defense was NOT that Susan Hamlin was under the influence of her father, Dr. Sid Siemer. There is absolutely no proof that Sid Siemer ever worked for Cabazon Arms. In fact Kate Dixon and VM clearly spelled out the possible defenses for Richard Hamlin and what ended up “burying” him was his own inept defense chosen by himself as First Chair attorney for the defense. That, and the fact, that he audio taped himself beating his wife on two separate occasions. I absolutely agree that the torture charge filed by DA Gary Lacy was excessive and that, in my non-legal opinion, he should have been charged with domestic violence which, if he had been convicted, would have been a first time offense.



Dr_Doogie wrote:
Philip Arthur Thompson: This vile human being has been responsible for the deaths of many people - Cloer, Winter, MacDonald, Sailer, Morasca, Quick, and I believe ultimately he will be linked to the Alvarez triple murders too along with probably many others. Yet, VM and KD tried their best to tweak public opinion against the prosecution's case. Hell, VM even joined the defense team for Thompson! WTF? You can judge a person by the friends they keep - any friend of Thompson is no friend of justice.

Virginia McCullough wrote:
There comes a point in time when it is almost useless to debate issues with someone who “is on a mission” and who is either deliberately or unintentionally misconstruing the facts over and over again to achieve their mission’s agenda.

FACT: Philip Arthur Thompson was convicted by a jury for the murder of Betty Cloer

FACT: Thompson was present in the car with Ronald E. Winter when he was assassinated on 4-26-75 on San Juan under Interstate I 5 in Sacramento, Ca. Mr. Winter told his wife and his doctor that “I will die in a hail of bullets” and, in fact, a full clip of an AR15 was used in the killing which occurred when Winters and the passenger Thompson pulled to the side of the road and Winters walked to the back of his car and opened his trunk. A car that had been following the two men stopped behind their car and a man got out and executed Winters. Thompson ran from the car, was later arrested and charged with three felonies, none named him as the shooter. He entered into a plea agreement. Lt. Robbie Waters, later a City Councilman in Sacramento, was in charge of the case and to this day will not tell Mr. Winter’s widow what happened. This is one of the most fascinating cases linked directly or indirectly to Thompson.
FACT: The murder of Valerie MacDonald remains an open homicide. MacDonald disappeared Nov. 6, 1980. Miss MacDonald was 26 years old, a striking blonde with a slender build and she had ambitions of becoming a model or an actress. She was last seen alive outside her apartment complex in San Francisco. The complex was known as The Tower Apartments in North Beach.

Three men were managing this apartment building. They were Michael Hennessey, John Abbott and Phillip Thompson who had met while serving time in a California prison. Hennessey was later killed in a shootout with the Canadian RCMP, a gunfight in which Abbott was also wounded. Abbott served time in prison for this incident and is now a free man. Thompson was never charged with MacDonald’s disappearance.

MacDonald’s remains were not discovered until October 1991 when two hunters found a skull near Danville, Ferry County, Washington. It was not until November 22, 2000 that California CAPMI matched the skull with the dental records of Valerie MacDonald and notified her parents DeeDee and Robert Kouns their daughter’s body had been found.

DeeDee Kouns believes the Thompson is responsible for her daughter’s murder. However, Michael Riconosciuto’s alleged cousin-by-marriage Anita Langley implicated Riconosciuto in the disappearance of MacDonald in a letter she wrote to Thompson prosecutor Trish Kelliher on March 20, 2006 during the midst of the Thompson trial. In that letter Langley writes the following paragraph:

Michael decided to cooperate with federal agents after he witnessed a murder in the late 60s. The investigation involved corrupt police in the San Francisco area. The corruption was very well organized and also involved dirty federal agents outside the SF police department. Michael’s status as an informant was discovered, and same for some of his friends, several people were murdered. An attempt was made to frame him by dumping the body of Valerie MacDonald, who was his girlfriend and Betty Cloer’s friend, behind a property owned by Michael. (I may have said “house” on the phone, but I don’t think that is correct, Michael owned a number of businesses. ) Another attempt was made to frame him after Michael produced solid alibi for the murder, drugs were planted under his houseboat. The FBI were not ready to make their case so he went to jail.

FACT: Thompson was never charged and not brought to trial in the murder of Ines Sailer and, in fact, another man was ultimately convicted of this crime based on DNA evidence.

Disinformation and an inaccurate news article published on 1-27-81 in the SF Examiner by Ivan Sharpe wrongly linked the Sailer murder to the MacDonald disappearance. A San Francisco Chronicle article by John Cote on September 24, 2006 announced the arrest of 60-year old Melvin Forte for the Sailer killing based on DNA evidence that the San Jose police department found when they re-submitted Sailer’s dress for testing in 2005. Forte was ultimately convicted.

FACT: The murder of Paul Morasca in San Francisco occurred in January 1982, approximately 6 months after the Alvarez executions. A grand jury to investigate this murder was impaneled by then San Francisco Assistant DA James McBride (now presiding judge in San Francisco) approximately 1 year after the Morasca. Philip Arthur Thompson was the target of that Grand Jury. Michael Riconosciuto was going to testify but never did. Riconosciuto has always alleged that Thompson, then using the name of Jason Smith was the killer of Morasca with John Philip Nichols giving the orders. Despite a letter in my possession from McBride to Riconosciuto wanting to know when Michael would testify, it never happened and the Grand Jury returned a no bill against Philip Arthur Thompson.

Both Riconosciuto and Thompson point the finger at each other for this killing and it remains an open homicide.

FACT: The murder of Mary Quick near Fresno, California occurred shortly after the murder of Paul Morasca. The story behind this murder is solely based on the word of Michael Riconosciuto who alleges that someone thought that Quick had been given the code that would release the funds of the Nugan Hand Bank in Australia. According to Michael, Mary Quick was killed to obtain that code. It remains an open homicide but could link back to Quick’s alliance with W. Patrick Moriarty, close personal friend of President Richard Nixon and Marshall Riconosciuto, Michael’s father.


It is apparent in reading Dr_Doogie’s tirade that he is attempting to put every murder at the doorstep of Philip Arthur Thompson. Therefore, I am surprised that he missed the December 20, 1980 vicious murders of the Davis sweethearts John Riggin and Sabrina Gonsalves. Law enforcement, in their desperate attempt to lay these killings at Thompson’s doorstep, delayed the solution of the murders until Joel Davis did their homework for them and published it in his excellent book Justice Waits: The UC Davis Sweetheart Murders. See attachment for references to Philip Arthur Thompson and please note that Sacramento prosecutor Anne Marie Schubert who was so centered on Thompson as the murderer of the Davis Sweethearts was the same DNA prosecutor who controlled the DNA testing that resulted in matching Thompson to the Cloer murder.

In reply to Dr_Doogie’s last comments I do not, at this time, have any evidence that Thompson will be linked to the Alvarez executions and I do not, at this time, believe that Michael Riconosciuto will be indicted or charged with any complicity in the Alvarez executions. Both men were at that location in Indio, California in 1981 and both men knew “Dr.” John Philip Nichols and Jimmy Hughes and John Paul Nichols and Mark Nichols. The only man that none of them knew, except allegedly, was co-conspirator Glenn Heggstad, who is apparently a co-operating witness in these executions.

Finally, I have never made any secret of the fact that I was a legal runner for Philip Arthur Thompson as I said in a full disclosure at the end of one of my articles. That position protected my ability to cover the trial because I was told that the prosecution would attempt to keep me out of the courtroom and it enabled me to convey documents concerning events that took place at the Cabazon reservation to Thompson without the prosecution reviewing them first and preventing their transfer. So what is the purpose of anti-VM posters continuing to repeat what I have already fully disclosed?

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Postby chiggerbit » Fri Nov 27, 2009 11:23 pm

Virginia has replied directly here before. Why does she need to do it through you, now, AD? It feels like channelling.
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Postby American Dream » Fri Nov 27, 2009 11:55 pm

Here is what Virginia said to me as a preface to the comments that I just posted:
I’m getting sooo frustrated about being attacked continuously by Dr_Doogie and not being able to respond. I swore that I would just let my writings speak for themselves. However, I will make an exception if you want to post my response to Dr_Doogie. He was just sooo far off on any of his facts about these cases…….V.
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Postby chiggerbit » Sat Nov 28, 2009 12:02 am

I just like direct better.
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Postby desertfae » Sat Nov 28, 2009 1:26 am

This will be short but sweet.
The readers here can take about 90-95% of what KD said and throw it out the door. She has no clue what she's talking about and pretty much said that herself.
As for me being a "tool" I had to laugh about that. I actually argued, and fought with a certain individual at the Sheriffs dept to get the case even assigned. I confronted Hughes on my own, with my own video recorder which is a Sony Handycam in my purse, which I loaded up with towels and wash clothes from the hotel to hold the camera up inside my purse.
JP had JUST been assigned to the case when I did this. He had no idea I was doing this and I had only spoke with him once as an introduction prior to going to Fresno. When I returned, about 2 weeks later he called me and I told him "hey, I had a little run in with Jimmy Hughes that you may be interested in" and he responded with "WHAAAAT?!"
As for the 'immunity' issue, KD has no clue what she's talking about, and I'm not going to get into here because there the case will be going to trial, and I don't want to say anything to screw it up. I can tell you however, she's completely wrong.
One more thing, I highly doubt that KD would publish anything I send on her site, and honestly, I wouldn't want any thing of mine on her site with the reputation it has among the legal community. (no harm meant here, just stating a fact).
As for VM's channeling through AD... why doesn't she post herself??? Why does AD have to be VM's spokesperson when KD can post herself?
BTW VM, as for what Doogie has and doesn't have, do you think gloating about a piece of documentation you have helps? /fail/
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Postby Kate Dixon » Sat Nov 28, 2009 3:12 am

desertfae wrote:This will be short but sweet.

GOOD TO HEAR FROM YOU DESERT FAE.

The readers here can take about 90-95% of what KD said and throw it out the door. She has no clue what she's talking about and pretty much said that herself.

KD: I hope I am working this quote thing correctly on this chat board. It is a little complex. It is good to know that I am 5% to 10% right. The readers have to really wonder how important that percentage is as compared to the vast percentage you claim to be incorrect, which could be trivial. I like to be right on the key point, even if someone else thinks that is only 1% of the entire matter. I have given an indepth analysis of Hughes' transactional immunity issue and you have given a non-transparent short and not at all sweet non-intellectual response merely asserting that you have some secret knowledge and you are right. Do you share your secrets with Jerry Brown himself or his staff or just with JP? Do you have a picture of yourself and Jerry Brown enjoying the BBQ, like the one you have of yourself and JP?

As for me being a "tool" I had to laugh about that. I actually argued, and fought with a certain individual at the Sheriffs dept to get the case even assigned.

You know it is really really pathetic that JP and the Sheriff of Riverside and DA Rod Pacheco did not care to even open up the cold case of the triple execution, despite their fat funding to look at cold cases, and instead it took your heroic persistent efforts for them to move forward. They are a pathetic bunch of cold creeps if this is true -- that they did not care to look at it again, until you arrived. God, they didn't care about your Dad's death, did they? Or about justice, did they?

I confronted Hughes on my own, with my own video recorder which is a Sony Handycam in my purse, which I loaded up with towels and wash clothes from the hotel to hold the camera up inside my purse.
JP had JUST been assigned to the case when I did this. He had no idea I was doing this and I had only spoke with him once as an introduction prior to going to Fresno. When I returned, about 2 weeks later he called me and I told him "hey, I had a little run in with Jimmy Hughes that you may be interested in" and he responded with "WHAAAAT?!"

It is nice that you explained your camera techniques. I tell you I have much to learn from you. I don't believe anyone faults you for trying to confront someone who you think murdered your father. If your methodology comes up at trial or in some pretrial motion, it is really the responsibility of JP and the AG who may have used your recording as part of an affidavit to arrest Hughes? Are you and your camera the evidence in the affidavit too, or is this another secret. GEES YOU HAVE BECOME QUITE SECRETIVE RECENTLY. I preferred you in the past when you explained a lot on UTUBE and in your press releases. I must say you handled the media and RI and everything like that quite well, but, alas you cannot handle me and NMN. I am independent. I am no Nathan Baca pouring out JP's propaganda. Nice Emmy Nathan, but please ask harder questions next time.

As for the 'immunity' issue, KD has no clue what she's talking about, and I'm not going to get into here because there the case will be going to trial, and I don't want to say anything to screw it up. I can tell you however, she's completely wrong.

One can't even respond to this type of dictatorial argument where you have given no facts or reasons or anything. You just say you are right and I am wrong. But you don't deny that Hughes has immunity, neither does JP -- he referenced it on TV. How the AG gets around this immunity will be a real fascinating thing to behold, unless it is all kept secret. It appears the gag has already begun. Gag, gag, gag, it is already staring, and staring with of all people -- you, the one who is EXPOSING THE OCTOPUS, right. Or are you hiding that old creature now?

One more thing, I highly doubt that KD would publish anything I send on her site, and honestly, I wouldn't want any thing of mine on her site with the reputation it has among the legal community. (no harm meant here, just stating a fact).

As for my not being a lawyer now, you throw that around, but you never investigated it at all. A cursory glance at papers I filed and those filed on my behalf would show you that an agent of the Wackenhut Corporation developed a case against me which was used by a fascist federal judge, who resigned from the bench within months after attacking me. Their beef with me was that I exposed a pedophile ring in Emeryville school district. Now, of course, you don't look at anything deeply at all -- and you have sided with my enemies, and look who you are sided with? Enjoying youself, yet?

As for VM's channeling through AD... why doesn't she post herself??? Why does AD have to be VM's spokesperson when KD can post herself?
BTW VM, as for what Doogie has and doesn't have, do you think gloating about a piece of documentation you have helps? /fail/


You can ask VM anything you want. I find it a little difficult to post on this board, but I am learning. It is difficult to get the quote thing right and not make mistakes. Ii think you and AD and others are better at it than I am, but I am trying to learn it.

Well, Ms. Begley, the case will unfold and there will be an immense fight and we will all see in time what is true and what is false or at least what happens in court to some extent. Of course, I hope that the shroud of secrecy does not keep the public from learning the truth
in this triple execution case. I hope you still want the truth, and not just Hughes' imprisonment no matter what. KIt seems at a prior grand jury he already admitted some degree of criminal liability for the executions -- but I guess that is just somehting you want to work around and go and make a new case against him. I especially look forward to attending the pretrial motions and trial wherein you testify. You can be assured I will report on this accurately and objectively down in Riverside or wherever this trial is held.

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Postby desertfae » Sat Nov 28, 2009 4:22 am

Kate Dixon wrote:KD: I hope I am working this quote thing correctly on this chat board. It is a little complex.

Let me help you out with the quote function. put quote="whoevers name" with brackets before what you want to quote, then /quote with brackets after the quote. Then you can type under it, as I have done, see?
Now, onto my reply.

Kate Dixon wrote:It is good to know that I am 5% to 10% right. The readers have to really wonder how important that percentage is as compared to the vast percentage you claim to be incorrect, which could be trivial. I like to be right on the key point, even if someone else thinks that is only 1% of the entire matter.

You are wrong on key points.

Kate Dixon wrote:I have given an indepth analysis of Hughes' transactional immunity issue and you have given a non-transparent short and not at all sweet non-intellectual response merely asserting that you have some secret knowledge and you are right.

Being that you used to be an attorney, you know very well that me saying anything case related can mess up the case, is that what you want?

Kate Dixon wrote:Do you share your secrets with Jerry Brown himself or his staff or just with JP? Do you have a picture of yourself and Jerry Brown enjoying the BBQ, like the one you have of yourself and JP?

Wow, a little testy there eh Kate?


Kate Dixon wrote:You know it is really really pathetic that JP and the Sheriff of Riverside and DA Rod Pacheco did not care to even open up the cold case of the triple execution, despite their fat funding to look at cold cases, and instead it took your heroic persistent efforts for them to move forward. They are a pathetic bunch of cold creeps if this is true -- that they did not care to look at it again, until you arrived. God, they didn't care about your Dad's death, did they? Or about justice, did they?

Are you trying to upset me here, or JP, or what? I can back up everything I say, and will, in time. But I'm not going to screw up what I've worked so hard for just because you or VM or anyone else whines about it.


Kate Dixon wrote:It is nice that you explained your camera techniques. I tell you I have much to learn from you. I don't believe anyone faults you for trying to confront someone who you think murdered your father. If your methodology comes up at trial or in some pretrial motion, it is really the responsibility of JP and the AG who may have used your recording as part of an affidavit to arrest Hughes? Are you and your camera the evidence in the affidavit too, or is this another secret. GEES YOU HAVE BECOME QUITE SECRETIVE RECENTLY. I preferred you in the past when you explained a lot on UTUBE and in your press releases. I must say you handled the media and RI and everything like that quite well, but, alas you cannot handle me and NMN. I am independent. I am no Nathan Baca pouring out JP's propaganda. Nice Emmy Nathan, but please ask harder questions next time.

LOL you crack me up. See above. Your little 'legal techniques" to get me to tell you something that I can't because there's going to be a murder trial and I'm not going to screw it up, aren't going to work with me. See, real reporters and journalists understand the fact that a case is going to go to trial and there are things that you can't discuss without screwing it all up. Again, just because you and VM whine a lot and want information, doesn't mean you'll get it. You'll get the information, when the time is right, along with the rest of the public, when it won't screw up anything.

Kate Dixon wrote:One can't even respond to this type of dictatorial argument where you have given no facts or reasons or anything. You just say you are right and I am wrong. But you don't deny that Hughes has immunity, neither does JP -- he referenced it on TV. How the AG gets around this immunity will be a real fascinating thing to behold, unless it is all kept secret. It appears the gag has already begun. Gag, gag, gag, it is already staring, and staring with of all people -- you, the one who is EXPOSING THE OCTOPUS, right. Or are you hiding that old creature now?

When the time is right, I'll prove that I'm right. Your little attacks on me and my not wanting to screw up anything, don't work. Try again. As I said before, all of this WILL come out, but it will be at a time that won't screw up all I've worked for. If you don't like that, too bad.

Kate Dixon wrote:As for my not being a lawyer now, you throw that around, but you never investigated it at all. A cursory glance at papers I filed and those filed on my behalf would show you that an agent of the Wackenhut Corporation developed a case against me which was used by a fascist federal judge, who resigned from the bench within months after attacking me. Their beef with me was that I exposed a pedophile ring in Emeryville school district. Now, of course, you don't look at anything deeply at all -- and you have sided with my enemies, and look who you are sided with? Enjoying youself, yet?

Again LOL. I simply posted your disbarment for people to see, since it was never posted anywhere. I have to wonder about the two threats listed in it though. For someone who was wanting to expose stuff and fight for justice, it hardly seems like threatening people, including your ex employee, would be the way to go about that. I suppose your ex employee was an agent of Wackenhut too eh?
If you had an issue with me posting your disbarment why didn't you bring it up months ago when I posted it? Why now?


Kate Dixon wrote:You can ask VM anything you want. I find it a little difficult to post on this board, but I am learning. It is difficult to get the quote thing right and not make mistakes. Ii think you and AD and others are better at it than I am, but I am trying to learn it.


See above, I explained how to do this, if you have any questions about it after my explanation maybe I'll write up something easier or I'm sure others here would help you out as well.

Kate Dixon wrote:Well, Ms. Begley, the case will unfold and there will be an immense fight and we will all see in time what is true and what is false or at least what happens in court to some extent. Of course, I hope that the shroud of secrecy does not keep the public from learning the truth
in this triple execution case. I hope you still want the truth, and not just Hughes' imprisonment no matter what. KIt seems at a prior grand jury he already admitted some degree of criminal liability for the executions -- but I guess that is just somehting you want to work around and go and make a new case against him. I especially look forward to attending the pretrial motions and trial wherein you testify. You can be assured I will report on this accurately and objectively down in Riverside or wherever this trial is held.

Kate Dixon

You're right, the case will unfold and the truth will come out.. everyone will see who's right.
Without getting into the evidence, I can say that Hughes should be in jail. Do I want the truth? Yes.. I have the truth. Do I want the truth to come out? Yes.. and it will, without screwing anything up.
Here's a piece of advice for you Kate, use the training you had in law school, with that you'll realize that asking me to tell you all of this amounts to screwing up the prosecution.. or is that what you want? It seemed like that's what you guys wanted with PAT the way you and VM posted stuff, how VM listed herself as "friend" on his visitation forms at the prison, and the people you two shared info with. I could be wrong here, maybe it was only VM doing these things so I'll admit that, but you let her post that stuff on your site, so I have to wonder.
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Postby compared2what? » Sat Nov 28, 2009 4:47 am

desertfae wrote:See, real reporters and journalists understand the fact that a case is going to go to trial and there are things that you can't discuss without screwing it all up.


I had been under the impression that everyone understood that. I always have had a problem with remembering that just because it's obvious to me, doesn't mean it's obvious to everyone. I hate it when that happens.

In any event. Excellent point. That should go without saying.
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Postby desertfae » Sat Nov 28, 2009 5:05 am

Kate Dixon wrote:Well, Ms. Begley, blah blah blah... etc
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Postby desertfae » Sat Nov 28, 2009 5:09 am

compared2what? wrote:I had been under the impression that everyone understood that. I always have had a problem with remembering that just because it's obvious to me, doesn't mean it's obvious to everyone. I hate it when that happens.

In any event. Excellent point. That should go without saying.


You would think with a legal background it would be obvious, but touche. :)
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Postby American Dream » Sat Nov 28, 2009 5:43 am

desert fae wrote:
Without getting into the evidence, I can say that Hughes should be in jail. Do I want the truth? Yes.. I have the truth. Do I want the truth to come out? Yes.. and it will, without screwing anything up.


Rachel, with all due respect, a lot hinges on what is and isn't meant by "the truth" here.
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Postby Dr_Doogie » Sat Nov 28, 2009 6:41 am

Jeez, where do I start with this woman?

Let's just start with the Valerie MacDonald murder. Dee Dee Kouns believes that Thompson, Abbott and Hennesey did it. Sandra Sutherland, a PI hired by the Kounes, believes that Thompson, Abbott and Hennesey did it. Detective JR Sharp, whose work after MacDonald's body was discovered led to the identification, believed that Thompson, Abbott and Hennesey did it. Even McCullough's alleged mentor Mae Brussell spoke in depth about the case with the clear impliction that they did it. Of course, they could all be wrong and Ms. McCullough may be right, but absent anything other than VM's opinion, I will go with common sense.

But more importantly, VM has supplied me with a perfect example of her modus operandi. Notice the quote: "However, Michael Riconosciuto’s alleged cousin-by-marriage Anita Langley implicated Riconosciuto in the disappearance of MacDonald in a letter she wrote to Thompson prosecutor Trish Kelliher on March 20, 2006 during the midst of the Thompson trial." Note what the letter actually said: "An attempt was made to frame him (Riconosciuto) by dumping the body of Valerie MacDonald, who was his girlfriend and Betty Cloer’s friend, behind a property owned by Michael." Notice how a letter saying that someone "tried to frame" MR has become somehow he was "implicated" in her murder. Words mean things and VM is a master at blurring that fact.

Since Virginia has offered up Mike R's cousin's letter as evidence that Thompson is just a poor misunderstood fellow, let's dissect the letter and apply common sense:

"...Valerie MacDonald, who was (Riconosciuto's) girlfriend..."

So beautiful Valerie MacDonald, actress/model, was the girlfriend of Michael Riconosciuto, short dumpy Peter Lorre lookalike. Only in the dreams of someone doing a long sentence in prison...

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"...Valerie MacDonald, who was his girlfriend and Betty Cloer’s friend..."

Hmmm... Valerie was 26 when she disappeared in November of 1980 which would have made her 17 when 21 year old Betty Cloer was murdered. A four year difference in age does not preclude them being friends, but the fact that the also lived 111 miles apart (Eugene versus Portland) add to the unlikeliness of these two ever knowing each other.

Of course, Virginia herself never made these claims - the "cousin" did and she was certainly merely relaying Michael's information. But VM DID offer this letter here in defense of Thompson. Besides being patently ridiculous, (and this is the real question here) since when did Virginia McCullough believe ANYTHING that Michael has said? I personally believe little of what he claims and I give him more credit that VM does. To now offer one of "Puppet Master" Mike's stories to divert attention away from the multiple murderer Thompson demonstrates EXACTLY what I earlier claimed - that Virginia tweaks her stories (and posts) with a clear agenda that does not necessarily include truth as the goal. (IMHO)
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Postby Dr_Doogie » Sat Nov 28, 2009 7:10 am

BTW, Virginia:

I did not mention that Thompson had been considered a prime suspect in the Gonsalves/Riggins murders since a different suspect had been tied to the murders through DNA. However, in a personal interview, famed (now retired) homicide detective Ray Biondi told me that he still considers Thompson a strong suspect in the case. Since he made his name by solving several serial killing cases, I think I will go with his opinion over yours.

And BTW, Virginia:

From the Last Circle:

"They added that "Jason," Phillip Arthur Thompson, was not so creative in his killing style. Thompson had allegedly killed many people in his career, but he chose to use a gun and get the job done quickly. (Robert Booth) Nichols also said at lunch, with Ellen listening, that he knew who killed Mary Quick. Ellen rolled her eyes at her husband and beseeched him to change the subject. I asked Nichols to name the killer or at least give me a clue. Nichols said the killer of Mary Quick had been arrested and released. Obviously they were talking about "Jason," who HAD been arrested and released."

So both MR and RBN, eyewitnesses to the happenings at Cabazon, claim that Thompson murdered Mary Quick. I think that trumps your "she knew somebody who knew Nixon" theory.

And, yes, I believe that Thompson is also guilty of many other murders that I have not listed.
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Postby desertfae » Sat Nov 28, 2009 12:19 pm

American Dream wrote:Rachel, with all due respect, a lot hinges on what is and isn't meant by "the truth" here.

truth definition

truth (tro̵̅o̅t̸h)

noun pl. truths (tro̵̅o̅t̸hz, tro̵̅o̅t̸hs)

1. the quality or state of being true; specif.,
1. Obsolete loyalty; trustworthiness
2. sincerity; genuineness; honesty
3. the quality of being in accordance with experience, facts, or reality; conformity with fact
4. reality; actual existence
5. agreement with a standard, rule, etc.; correctness; accuracy
2. that which is true; statement, etc. that accords with fact or reality
3. an established or verified fact, principle, etc.
4. a particular belief or teaching regarded by the speaker as the true one: often with the

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Postby American Dream » Sat Nov 28, 2009 12:38 pm

Yes, but the truth about what?
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