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erosoplier » Sun Feb 11, 2007 9:50 pm wrote:Im just wondering about your general thoughts on "free" energy from electromagnetism ?
I guess, the proof is in the pudding. If something is real then the odds are that it will be exposed as being real, no matter how much suppression is going on. If someone has discovered the secret of alchemy and wants recognition, they needn't moan and groan about how the government is suppressing their ideas - all they have to do is produce the gold right in front of a skeptical audience, repeatably.
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=10777&hilit
Intrinsic inefficiencies plague current systems for the generation and delivery of electricity, with significant energy lost in transit. High-temperature superconductors (HTS)—uniquely capable of transmitting electricity with zero loss when chilled to subzero temperatures—could revolutionize the planet's aging and imperfect energy infrastructure, but the remarkable materials remain fundamentally puzzling to physicists.
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Superconductivity demands extremely cold conditions and a precise chemical recipe. Beyond selecting the right elements from the periodic table, physicists carefully tweak the electron content of atoms through a process called doping. Doping determines the average number of electrons present in each atom, and in turn dictates both the behavior of spin waves and the presence of HTS, which emerges around a particular doping sweet spot.
For this study, the team examined thin films of lanthanum, strontium, copper, and oxygen—often abbreviated as LSCO. These particular HTS materials can be tuned to exhibit a wide range of different electronic behaviors.
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To grow these materials, Brookhaven Lab physicist Ivan Bozovic—another author on the study—used a custom-built atomic layer-by-layer molecular beam epitaxy machine (ALL-MBE). Bozovic's system is uniquely equipped to monitor the synthesis of the LSCO films in real-time, giving him an unparalleled degree of control over the atomic composition of each layer, including adjustments to the doping levels.
http://phys.org/news/2013-08-scientists ... supercondu
brainpanhandler » 06 Aug 2013 17:12 wrote:erosoplier » Sun Feb 11, 2007 9:50 pm wrote:Im just wondering about your general thoughts on "free" energy from electromagnetism ?
I guess, the proof is in the pudding. If something is real then the odds are that it will be exposed as being real, no matter how much suppression is going on. If someone has discovered the secret of alchemy and wants recognition, they needn't moan and groan about how the government is suppressing their ideas - all they have to do is produce the gold right in front of a skeptical audience, repeatably.
http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board2/ ... 0777&hilit
Heh. One wonders what would happen to that person upon demonstrating their alchemical prowess. perhaps the real alchemy is in brainwashing people into valuing gold beyond it's utilitarian value.
It seems to me upon reading the following that modern science in some areas is still not that far removed from it's alchemical origins:Intrinsic inefficiencies plague current systems for the generation and delivery of electricity, with significant energy lost in transit. High-temperature superconductors (HTS)—uniquely capable of transmitting electricity with zero loss when chilled to subzero temperatures—could revolutionize the planet's aging and imperfect energy infrastructure, but the remarkable materials remain fundamentally puzzling to physicists.
...
Superconductivity demands extremely cold conditions and a precise chemical recipe. Beyond selecting the right elements from the periodic table, physicists carefully tweak the electron content of atoms through a process called doping. Doping determines the average number of electrons present in each atom, and in turn dictates both the behavior of spin waves and the presence of HTS, which emerges around a particular doping sweet spot.
For this study, the team examined thin films of lanthanum, strontium, copper, and oxygen—often abbreviated as LSCO. These particular HTS materials can be tuned to exhibit a wide range of different electronic behaviors.
...
To grow these materials, Brookhaven Lab physicist Ivan Bozovic—another author on the study—used a custom-built atomic layer-by-layer molecular beam epitaxy machine (ALL-MBE). Bozovic's system is uniquely equipped to monitor the synthesis of the LSCO films in real-time, giving him an unparalleled degree of control over the atomic composition of each layer, including adjustments to the doping levels.
http://phys.org/news/2013-08-scientists ... supercondu
Their toys are a lot more sophisticated like the "custom-built atomic layer-by-layer molecular beam epitaxy machine" (whatever that is) but the educated trial and error methodology still exists. There's more than just "remarkable materials" which remain "fundamentally puzzling to physicists". The world needs the Brookhaven labs and the garage lab tinkerers equally.
One wonders what would happen to that person upon demonstrating their alchemical prowess.
slimmouse » Tue Aug 06, 2013 2:37 pm wrote:I kinda get pissed at this kind of retort..
What for example, in your best estimation, happens to 'garage lab tinkerers' who might stumble upon something real?
Explain to me the neccesary process involved in making 'garage lab tinkering', turning into the real deal, whereupon I'll tell you how it subsequently goes down, if you didnt suspect it already.
The big energy giants aren't playing softball here. To suggest that they wouldnt crush like bugs anything that threatens their hegemony over how life on earth is just now is quite frankly fukn ludicrous.
To me, at this stage in the game the Big energy giants are the ultimate definition of stupid.
Whilst others will define them as they may, I kinda like wintlers "suicide cult" analogy a while back on another thread.
Whilst these guys call the shots, how much of the rest of humanity is suicidal?
Hence my barfing for long enough about "Man made global warming ". Talk about a moot point to the seriously informed
slimmouse wrote:Whilst others will define them as they may, I kinda like wintlers "suicide cult" analogy a while back on another thread.
To correct slims misrepresentation, my point could only have been that -we- are the voluntary human extinction movement. And we're winning .. yay team! All of us reading & writing on this screen are overconsumers, living beyond our means. Dodging personal responsibility and blaming oil corps/illuminati/reptilians/tories/repugnicants etc is how we got here: the many faces of denial define us.
The best thing about free energy is that it keeps some of the morons harmlessly diverted, e.g. its better than them playing with firearms.
wintler2 » Wed Aug 07, 2013 8:35 am wrote: All of us reading & writing on this screen are overconsumers, living beyond our means. Dodging personal responsibility and blaming oil corps/illuminati/reptilians/tories/repugnicants etc is how we got here: the many faces of denial define us..
http://www.cbc.ca/thecurrent/episode/20 ... of-denial/
brainpanhandler » Wed Aug 07, 2013 11:28 am wrote:.. I wonder how Varki reconciles this evolutionary dynamic with the fact that modern humans do not have the same sort of selection pressures visited upon us.
brainpanhandler » Wed Aug 07, 2013 11:28 am wrote:..And strangely enough it's not all that unrelated to the OP. The dreamers are the wild optimists and God bless them. True discovery and invention, that is, adding novel information and understanding to our worldview, is often the product of happy accidents. It's long odds and its easy to ridicule all the trying and failing, but that's one of the avenues by which progress is made. Thankfully it's not the only one.
slimmouse » Wed Aug 07, 2013 1:39 pm wrote:"Free Energy". Why can we not create steam from the heat of the sun to drive turbines or create some pretty serious hydraulic pressure? I'll bet we can or at least we could, you know.
slimmouse » 07 Aug 2013 11:39 wrote:"Free Energy".
Why can we not create steam from the heat of the sun to drive turbines or create some pretty serious hydraulic pressure?
I'll bet we can or at least we could, you know.
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