Jimmy Savile: I'd like to comment but I can't...

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...thanks for joining up some dots Capt....

re this high profile celebrity children's "charidee" this is worth a mention :

“There were three drivers that brought this to a head,” she said to the newspaper. “Number one: I kept telling the Cabinet Office enough was enough, and we had to get our funding sorted out. Number two: I kept challenging the government about child-protection issues; and number three: I was told about historic child sex abuse . . . involving senior very recent ministers.”

http://uk.businessinsider.com/kids-comp ... ice-2015-8

Ms Batman-jelly is trying to imply that the charity was somehow nuked because she was party to incriminating stuff on the Westminster paedo ring.....at first glance this looks like self-serving guff - it very likely is to an extent.....and prompts one to ask why she hasn't mentioned this before now ....however the role of kids charities is central to this issue…

ETA : just located this link which puts a slightly different spin on it :

Ministers hid abuse, says charity chief

Katie Gibbons
Last updated at 12:01AM, July 4 2015

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/uk/a ... 487820.ece

A children’s charity head claims that she is being pressured to resign after approaching the government with a list of establishment figures involved in an historical child sex abuse case.
Camila Batmanghelidjh, founder of the charity Kids Company, has said that she “will not be bullied” into resignation despite alleged threats to withdraw vital state funding.
Ms Batmanghelidjh’s leadership came under scrutiny this week following reports that a £3 million government grant needed for the charity’s restructuring was dependent on her removal as chief executive.


...this is all very familiar to devotees of the late lamented Savile-thread on the Icke forum that devoted many pages picking away at another very high profile "celebrity" Kids charity Childline set up by well-known BBC personality Esther Rantzen....and its putative role as some sort of officially sanctioned early warning system & cover-up mechanism for top-level CSA was exhaustively rehearsed…....notable that they both have high level BBC involvement ( Mr Yentob in the current instance )

…..clearly having charities becoming so dependent on Govt fundoing as they are co-opted to fill the gap left by the retreating welfare state then their capacity to blow the whistle on Govt level mis-doings is going to be compromised…

Sex abuse charity funding crisis sees up to 10,000 in UK wait a year for help


…whatever the credibility or robustness of the claims against Heath actually are the fact is he does connect to Savile and also if we are going that route :




Jimmy Savile's nephew claims Sir Edward Heath abused his 14-year-old pal at London party

…and in the following highly significant article :

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/edward-heath-fixed-jimmy-savile-6220604


The relationship between Savile and Heath is being probed by North Yorkshire Police.

The Yorkshire-born DJ had a home in Scarborough, North Yorks, where he is suspected of abusing ­children with local ice cream parlour boss Peter Jaconelli.

A picture published by the Sunday People in June showed Heath meeting 21-stone Jaconelli, who had become the ­resort’s mayor, at a civic ­reception in 1970.

Savile and Jaconelli are suspected of being ­involved in the abuse of 35 young ­victims as part of a paedophile ring operating in Scarborough.


And also most startling of all to PIE :


We can also reveal that Heath, under investigation by seven police forces over child abuse claims, was present at more than half a dozen Westminster meetings of the notorious Paedophile Information Exchange.

A dossier of files compiled by former Labour minister Baroness Castle showed Heath was present at Westminster meetings with paedophile rights campaigners from the PIE group.

Heath is said to have attended at least a quarter of the 30 or so monthly or bi-weekly meetings.

His name is said to have appeared on minutes of the private gatherings, also apparently attended by other MPs, along with scoutmasters and headteachers.

But the Castle files have been ­missing since the mid 1980s.

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Butler-Sloss testifies in child abuse case BBC News 13 Aug 2015

A retired High Court Judge has given evidence on behalf of a man who is on trial for raping a 13-year-old girl.

Baroness Butler-Sloss told Exeter Crown Court she had 34 years experience of dealing with child abuse cases.

She gave character evidence on behalf of Philip Chard, 44, on trial for rape and sexual abuse of the girl.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-33914740

This is the woman that the UK gov't tried to install as the head of the commission looking into allegations of abuse.

Now she's testifying for an abuser in court.

What a surprise, NOT.

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60 minutes Australia - Westminster UK - high level child abuse exposé - Published on 19 Jul 2015

[RocketMan]

Uhhh...file under WTF

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015 ... tler-sloss

Man convicted of raping 13-year-old despite testimony by Lady Butler-Sloss

A nightclub doorman has been found guilty of raping a 13-year-old girl despite a prominent retired high court judge appearing in court to give character evidence on his behalf.

Elizabeth Butler-Sloss, a former president of the high court’s family division, told Exeter crown court she was astonished by the claims made against Philip Chard.

Lady Butler-Sloss, who last year stepped down as chair of the panel that was formed to examine the extent to which public institutions failed to investigate allegations of child abuse, said she had no concerns about Chard when he visited her home, where his mother worked as a cleaner.

But on Tuesday 44-year-old Chard was found guilty by a jury of rape and sexual activity with a child and was told he faces a lengthy jail sentence.

The victim told the jury how Chard crept into her bedroom and put his hand inside her pyjamas before returning and forcing her to have sex. She said her mind went blank and she remembers feeling angry, shocked, frightened and confused.

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I'm sure she would have done a fantastic job chairing the 'panel'.....exactly what was expected of her..........................

[RocketMan]

Butler-Sloss, a "cleaner" for the ruling class? She seems sinister through and through. Her "expert testimony" is just slapdash hand-waving... It's obvious she went on the record just for the purpose of having a peer witnessing on Chard's behalf. Vomit-inducing.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015 ... ilip-chard

A prominent retired high court judge, who specialised in family matters, has been criticised for giving evidence for the defence in the case of a man accused of raping a girl – though she knew he had a previous conviction for violence.

Lady Butler-Sloss, a former president of the high court’s family division and now a working peer, had told a jury she was astonished by the allegations against Philip Chard, the son of her long-serving cleaner. Despite her evidence, Chard was convicted of raping a 13-year-old girl and faces a long jail term.

Since then, the Guardian has learned that Butler-Sloss gave character evidence supportive of Chard at another trial eight years ago when he was accused of assaulting a man while working as a nightclub bouncer. Chard was also convicted for that offence, but on that occasion escaped being sent to prison.

Chard’s victim from the 2007 case and his family have expressed anger that Butler-Sloss, who last year stepped down as chair of the independent historical child abuse inquiry, was again prepared to apparently back him in court. Daniel Potter, who sustained a broken jaw in the nightclub attack, said: “She is someone who is very high up. It seems like she has tried to help him twice.”

Potter’s father, Steven, who was in court when Butler-Sloss gave her character evidence, said he had been surprised at the time she had testified given how violent the attack was. “It was strange to see this very powerful person supporting someone who had acted like this. The CCTV made it clear what had happened. Now she’s stood up in court again and tried to help him. I can’t understand it.”

Butler-Sloss was appointed by the government to chair the child sex abuse inquiry but she stood down after it was claimed that there was a conflict of interest because her brother, the late Sir Michael Havers, was attorney general during the 1980s – one of the periods that is to be examined by the panel.

Chard was found guilty of rape of the girl earlier this month. During the trial Butler-Sloss was called to give evidence by Chard’s defence team.

A jury at Exeter crown court was told how Chard, 44, crept into the bedroom where the 13-year-old was sleeping and put his hand inside her pyjamas before returning and forcing her to have sex. The victim said her mind went blank and she remembers feeling angry, shocked, frightened and confused.

Butler-Sloss said she had known Chard for 20 years because his mother, Valerie, was her cleaner at her home in east Devon. Chard, from Lympstone, near Exmouth in Devon, often took his mother to Butler-Sloss’s farmhouse home and sometimes stayed there for a couple of hours.

The peer said: “I was president of the family division and tried numerous cases over 34 years, mostly dealing with sexual or physical abuse. I have considerable experience although I retired in 2005. I was astonished to hear of these allegations. As a judge one knows that other people don’t know what goes on. I did think he is a much less probable offender than many I have come across.”

Chard shook and wept when the 10-2 majority guilty verdicts were returned. He was remanded in custody and told a lengthy jail term was inevitable. He was cleared of four other counts of sexual activity with a child.

In his 2007 trial, Chard was accused of causing grievous bodily harm to Potter while working as a doorman at a club in Exmouth. Potter fractured his jaw in four places, sustained cuts to his chin, lip and tongue and had to have two teeth surgically removed after Chard threw him out of the club for falling asleep on a sofa. Chard, who had no convictions at that point, claimed it had been an accident.

In court Butler-Sloss described him in warm terms. According to a BBC report of the case she said she knew him well. “He is a sensible, calm and very pleasant young man. He is quiet and extraordinarily helpful to me,” she told the court. “I have considerable respect for his common sense. I admire the way he looks after his mother.”

Butler-Sloss also said she knew that Chard went shooting and she had acted as a referee for his gun licence. “I have complete confidence in him and I was totally satisfied that I could act as a referee.”

But the jury found Chard guilty. The judge, John Neligan, told Chard: “[Potter] had not been causing any trouble in the club apart from being asleep and not leaving as quietly as perhaps he should. However, you have never been in trouble before and although this offence is so serious that a prison sentence is called for I feel able to suspend it.” Chard was ordered to pay his victim compensation and do 200 hours unpaid community work.

Asked by the Guardian why she had testified in the recent case when she must have known that Chard had a conviction for violence, Butler-Sloss said: “On the first occasion I gave evidence of character. I did not give evidence of character in the latest trial.” Rather she said she had given evidence of a factual nature and insisted she was not giving testimony about his “general character”. There is no suggestion that Butler-Sloss has broken any rules.

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There is something that absolutely stinks to high heaven about this. I have no rigour to offer but my intuition says Butler-Sloss is 'signalling' to other people in a network, letting them know the people at the top will stand with others of their type.

Would be fascinated to know what webs might link her to PIE.
I bet dollars to donuts she knows some of the indirectly-affiliated PIE academic types (the sort we talked about previously - who would write child porn (sorry I mean erudite academic papers) about "Trends in puer de-floration rites in latter period Sparta" - as part of creating acceptability by 1000 nudges.

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Rocketman:

Butler-Sloss, a "cleaner" for the ruling class?

Sir Michael Havers, the late brother of Baroness Butler-Sloss, was accused of a “white-wash” after he backed a decision not to prosecute Sir Peter Hayman.

Baroness Butler-Sloss, a former president of the Family Division of the High Court who led the inquest into the death of Princess Diana

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/10955726/Brother-of-paedophile-inquiry-judge-was-accused-of-cover-up.html

This is a family business. Her brother was the Attorney General of the UK in the 80's who decided not to prosecute gov't and spook peedo's.

She also led the inquest into the death of Princess Diana, FFS!

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the bitch needs putting down. now where did i put my shotgun?

[RocketMan]

the bitch needs putting down. now where did i put my shotgun?

Settle down there, hoss.

[smoking since 1879]

I just think its time for a bit less 'passive acquiescence'

or we could just sit back and let them piss all over us

same as it ever was eh?

[zangtang]

its only just starting.........................

I cut out the picture of Cliff Richard in a purple suit swinging round a lampost after a night out looking vey pleased with hisself recently......
(believe this was pretty much only copule of days after he returned to England 1st time since police raided his home back yonks ago)
passed off as an inpromptu impersonation of gene Kelly 'singin in the rain'
but seem'd there was a massive signalling going on there - pic of Elton wearing purple in the paper the next day

[RocketMan]

I share the sentiment, but somehow I don't think shotgunning Dame Butler-Sloss would achieve anything.

[RocketMan]

its only just starting.........................

I cut out the picture of Cliff Richard in a purple suit swinging round a lampost after a night out looking vey pleased with hisself recently......
(believe this was pretty much only copule of days after he returned to England 1st time since police raided his home back yonks ago)
passed off as an inpromptu impersonation of gene Kelly 'singin in the rain'
but seem'd there was a massive signalling going on there - pic of Elton wearing purple in the paper the next day

I don't get this talk about Elton John as a pedo. Has he ever been linked to anything like that? Sure his late 70s and 80s were spent in a haze of drugs and lots of young men but kids...? I don't recall ever hearing anything.

As for Elton John wearing purple...? Stop the presses!!

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yep, was going to add proviso about not pointing finger @ elton but stumbled over wording......
just sumting about the timing of the picture (more intuition than rigor)

but there will be some big names that shock people, i'm sure
- think theres going to be some gardening leave, spending time with families, position-considering, suicides, inexplicable illnesses, some lowlevel sacrificial goats
and a fuckload of whispering.

and a lot of mercenary/compromised hacks wheeled out to posit the dangers of moral panic - thats already started in the torygraph.