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Postby Fresno_Layshaft » Tue May 17, 2011 8:44 pm

Hugh Manatee Wins wrote:Keyword: REMOTE
Psyops is designed around mnemonics of language.

The reason for the pic of OBL with a tv remote in his hand is that controlled demolition of the three World Trade Center buildings was done by
remote control

and there is technology capable of flying those allegedly 'hijacked' planes by
remote control.

Same reason that:

> the demolition cutter charges smuggled into the buildings were changed into 'box cutters smuggled aboard planes.'
> the fact that no plane hit WTC3 was changed into discrediting disinfo that no planes hit the Twin Towers
> the fact that it took explosive power to hurl steel beams through space was changed into discrediting disinfo about 'power beams from outer space.'


Brilliant! :praybow
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Postby justdrew » Tue May 17, 2011 8:48 pm

Fresno_Layshaft wrote:
Hugh Manatee Wins wrote:Keyword: REMOTE
Psyops is designed around mnemonics of language.

The reason for the pic of OBL with a tv remote in his hand is that controlled demolition of the three World Trade Center buildings was done by
remote control

and there is technology capable of flying those allegedly 'hijacked' planes by
remote control.

Same reason that:

> the demolition cutter charges smuggled into the buildings were changed into 'box cutters smuggled aboard planes.'
> the fact that no plane hit WTC3 was changed into discrediting disinfo that no planes hit the Twin Towers
> the fact that it took explosive power to hurl steel beams through space was changed into discrediting disinfo about 'power beams from outer space.'


Brilliant! :praybow


WTC3 ! :shock: hello, number 7 calling. anyway, I knew what you meant.
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Re: OSAMA BIN LADEN ANNOUNCED DEAD BY OBAMA (renamed thread)

Postby freemason9 » Tue May 17, 2011 9:44 pm

Hugh Manatee Wins wrote:Keyword: REMOTE
Psyops is designed around mnemonics of language.

The reason for the pic of OBL with a tv remote in his hand is that controlled demolition of the three World Trade Center buildings was done by
remote control
and there is technology capable of flying those allegedly 'hijacked' planes by
remote control.

Same reason that:

> the demolition cutter charges smuggled into the buildings were changed into 'box cutters smuggled aboard planes.'
> the fact that no plane hit WTC3 was changed into discrediting disinfo that no planes hit the Twin Towers
> the fact that it took explosive power to hurl steel beams through space was changed into discrediting disinfo about 'power beams from outer space.'


You're fucking with us, right? I get it.
The real issue is that there is extremely low likelihood that the speculations of the untrained, on a topic almost pathologically riddled by dynamic considerations and feedback effects, will offer anything new.
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Re: OSAMA BIN LADEN ANNOUNCED DEAD BY OBAMA (renamed thread)

Postby fruhmenschen » Tue May 17, 2011 9:53 pm

see link for full story
http://www.presstv.ir/usdetail/180444.html
'Phony Osama operating under agent Davis'
Tue May 17, 2011 7:12PM



Gordon Duff, Senior Editor of Ohio-based Veterans Today, says what the United States claims to be Osama bin Laden was actually a "clone" operating under the supervision of CIA operative Raymond Davis in the Pakistani garrison town of Abbottabad.



"The CIA maintained a safe house at Abbottabad [where it] kept agents right next to the compound that 'bin Laden' was allegedly at," Duff said in a phone interview with Press TV's U.S. Desk on Tuesday.



"They watched bin Laden from their safe house but bin Laden, or whoever they say he was, had no security of any kind, there were no guns, no weapons, nothing," he continued



"All they had there was a CIA facility next door filled with armed people… the house next door was either a door watching a horribly unarmed and helpless Osama bin Laden or they were the security officers protecting the compound with a phony bin Laden," he said.



Duff further added that the real bin Laden died years go after having spent years in American hospitals receiving treatments for various ailments. He also dismissed as false the claims that bin Laden was responsible for the 9/11 terrorist attacks.



"The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), the U.S. department of justice has never been able to come up with a single shred of evidence that Osama bin Laden had any involvement in 9/11," he noted.
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Postby 8bitagent » Wed May 18, 2011 4:16 am

fruhmenschen wrote:see link for full story
http://www.presstv.ir/usdetail/180444.html
'Phony Osama operating under agent Davis'
Tue May 17, 2011 7:12PM



Gordon Duff, Senior Editor of Ohio-based Veterans Today, says what the United States claims to be Osama bin Laden was actually a "clone" operating under the supervision of CIA operative Raymond Davis in the Pakistani garrison town of Abbottabad.



"The CIA maintained a safe house at Abbottabad [where it] kept agents right next to the compound that 'bin Laden' was allegedly at," Duff said in a phone interview with Press TV's U.S. Desk on Tuesday.



"They watched bin Laden from their safe house but bin Laden, or whoever they say he was, had no security of any kind, there were no guns, no weapons, nothing," he continued



"All they had there was a CIA facility next door filled with armed people… the house next door was either a door watching a horribly unarmed and helpless Osama bin Laden or they were the security officers protecting the compound with a phony bin Laden," he said.



Duff further added that the real bin Laden died years go after having spent years in American hospitals receiving treatments for various ailments. He also dismissed as false the claims that bin Laden was responsible for the 9/11 terrorist attacks.



"The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), the U.S. department of justice has never been able to come up with a single shred of evidence that Osama bin Laden had any involvement in 9/11," he noted.


sounds about right to me. I would be kidding myself if I didn't think the Davis/ISI/al qaeda/bin laden thing wasn't part of a wider spook network. I said it in 2008 and I'll say it again, "bin Laden" was being protected by high level networks in mainland Pakistan waiting for the right time to take him out. At the time I joked it was probably going to be an ISI safehouse, but now Im not so sure the ISI is involved in all this anymore. I think they definitely have been double crossed...as much as myself and other truthers spent a lot of time trying to convince people ISI was involved in all this deep state shit.

But yeah, that article sounds about right. Ultimately, I defer to Jack's theory of OBL ultimately being shroedinger's car as much as he served as the modern day Goldstein.
EVEN IF bin Laden was involved in daily operational aspects of 9/11, Dar es Salaam, USS Cole, etc...he is nothing but a bought and paid for globalist asset just like all Sunni extremist jihadi groups.
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Postby 8bitagent » Wed May 18, 2011 4:17 am

http://www.guernicamag.com/blog/2652/no ... ion_to_os/

Noam Chomsky, hero of the anti truther leftgatekeeper has finally come around

In April 2002, the head of the FBI, Robert Mueller, informed the press that after the most intensive investigation in history, the FBI could say no more than that it “believed” that the plot was hatched in Afghanistan, though implemented in the UAE and Germany. What they only believed in April 2002, they obviously didn’t know 8 months earlier, when Washington dismissed tentative offers by the Taliban (how serious, we do not know, because they were instantly dismissed) to extradite bin Laden if they were presented with evidence—which, as we soon learned, Washington didn’t have. Thus Obama was simply lying when he said, in his White House statement, that “we quickly learned that the 9/11 attacks were carried out by al Qaeda.”

Nothing serious has been provided since. There is much talk of bin Laden’s “confession,” but that is rather like my confession that I won the Boston Marathon.
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Postby crikkett » Wed May 18, 2011 9:34 am

Schroedinger's Car, WTC3, loving the typos on this page.

Raymond Davis was caught in Abottabad? I didn't follow that story closely.

I haven't found video of Christiane Amanpour telling Bill Maher on his HBO show Real Time, back in Oct 2008, that everybody knows that UBL was living in a villa in Pakistan. But I swear I watched that exchange, back then.
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Postby JackRiddler » Wed May 18, 2011 10:29 am

crikkett wrote:Schroedinger's Car, WTC3, loving the typos on this page.

Raymond Davis was caught in Abottabad? I didn't follow that story closely.

I haven't found video of Christiane Amanpour telling Bill Maher on his HBO show Real Time, back in Oct 2008, that everybody knows that UBL was living in a villa in Pakistan. But I swear I watched that exchange, back then.


They repeated the clip on one of the recent shows. (btw, "Real Time" is an ironic name, since it's best viewed on fast forward.) She didn't up and specify an address, more reported the rumor as though it was likely true.

On the malapropism front, I'm fine with Schroedinger's anything, including Schroedinger's Car -- has it crashed or not? You don't know! Has Schroedinger's Apple fallen from the tree, is Schroedinger's Book open or closed, is Schroedinger's Cave lit or dark, etc. etc.

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Postby Joe Hillshoist » Wed May 18, 2011 10:44 am

Schrodinger's Cab.

Is it occupied are not?

Are you gonna find one when you need it or not?

Schrodinger's carpark

Is it full or will you get a park?

You won't know till you go in and check.

Scrodingers Conga Line, which was developed to illustrate the uncertainty principle.

You can only measure enthusiam or direction, not both at once.


(Well its a little more complicated than that but anyway.)

Shrodinger's carbunckle - well I honestly dunno about that but I think its got something to do with the LHC.
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Postby justdrew » Wed May 18, 2011 11:39 am

Schrodinger's Car, - no gas gauge, so you never run out of gas.
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Postby semper occultus » Wed May 18, 2011 11:43 am

Joe Hillshoist wrote:Schrodinger's Cab.

Is it occupied are not?

Are you gonna find one when you need it or not?

Schrodinger's carpark

Is it full or will you get a park?

You won't know till you go in and check.

Scrodingers Conga Line, which was developed to illustrate the uncertainty principle.

You can only measure enthusiam or direction, not both at once.


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Postby barracuda » Wed May 18, 2011 11:50 am

fruhmenschen wrote:Gordon Duff,


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Postby JackRiddler » Wed May 18, 2011 12:06 pm

justdrew wrote:Schrodinger's Car, - no gas gauge, so you never run out of gas.


Or else you're already out of gas.
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Postby justdrew » Wed May 18, 2011 12:10 pm

JackRiddler wrote:
justdrew wrote:Schrodinger's Car, - no gas gauge, so you never run out of gas.


Or else you're already out of gas.


well, as long as you don't try to start it, we've solved the gas shortage problem. (what's that called, projected probable reserves?)

at any rate.... Peak Uncertainty
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Postby Janewas » Wed May 18, 2011 12:34 pm

Opium smoking, porn perusing Osama clones rent paid for by CIA
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Apart from the extreme height of the walls and the barbed wire with which they were topped, there was nothing particularly distinctive about the compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan, where Osama bin Laden was reported to have lived and died.

Located in the area of town known as Bilal Town, the now infamous walled three-story dwelling seems to more or less blend in with the other middle-class homes as revealed in the myriad satellite photos published in the aftermath of the events of May 1. The neighborhood is home to merchants, office workers, and more than a few refugees from Afghanistan.

There was even a garden growing within the walls of the compound. Reporters found cabbages and potatoes, along with other vegetables. There was one crop, however, that wasn’t exactly designed to be chopped and served on a salad.

According to a report filed by CNN's Nic Robertson, he found rows of marijuana growing among the other greenery. Not exactly a competitor to Pakistan’s huge cash crop of poppy, some speculate that the plant was used by Osama bin Laden to relieve the pain that comes from the various ailments from which he was believed to have suffered.

In light of the reports of a cache of pornography that was also discovered among bin Laden’s effects, the picture that emerges is one of a man who was not quite the zealous, Islamo-facist the government of the United States formerly forwarded as the ultimate “enemy of the state” and “public enemy number one.”

Putting aside the questionable plants growing in the garden and the questionable choice of viewing material hidden inside the house, there’s something much more sinister about the house where Osama bin Laden allegedly met his demise.

An article published by India Today describes a feature of the house that deserves much more attention than marijuana or pornography.

Quoting another piece published in Toronto’s Globe and Mail, the paper reports:
Hizbul Mujahedeen, a militant group active in Kashmir, owned the mansion in the scenic town of Abbottabad where Osama bin Laden was killed by US forces, a Canadian newspaper has reported, claiming that Pakistan is hushing up the issue of the ownership of the compound.

There are indications emerging that the terror mastermind was sheltered by one of the militant groups that has enjoyed tolerance, if not support, from Pakistani military intelligence services, Globe and Mail reported.

The paper quoted a Pakistani police officer familiar with bin Laden's compound to say the house was used by Hizbul Mujahedeen. The group's chief Syed salahuddin is based in PoK capital Muzaffarabad.

Globalsecurity.org defines Hizbul Mujahideen thus:

Hizb-ul-Mujahideen (HM) is one of the largest terrorist groups operating in Jammu and Kashmir and stands for the integration of J&K with Pakistan. Since its formation the HuM has also wanted the islamization of Kashmir.
The HM was formed in 1989 in the Kashmir Valley with Master Ahsan Dar as its chief. Dar was later arrested by security forces in mid-December 1993. It was reportedly formed as the militant wing of the Jamaat-e-Islami (JeI) at the behest of the Inter Services Intelligence (ISI), Pakistan’s external intelligence agency, to counter the Jammu and Kashmir Liberation Front (JKLF), which had advocated complete independence of the State. Many of the early Hizb cadres were former JKLF members.

In June 1990, the HM ‘Constitution’ was approved and Mohammed Yusuf Shah, popularly known as Syed Salahuddin, was appointed Patron and Hilal Ahmed Mir as Amir (chief). Apparently, differences between JeI elements and the non-JeI faction started developing within the HM which led to a split with one faction being led by Salahuddin whereas the other was led by Hilal Ahmed Mir (killed in 1993).

Hizb-ul-Mjuahideen is headquartered at Muzaffarabad in Pakistan occupied Kashmir (PoK), and with an estimated cadre strength of at least 1500, is presently headed by Syed Salahuddin. The patron of HM in PoK is Ghulam Nabi Nausheri.

Compare this information with the more detailed accounts of the origins of Hizbul Mujahedeen and its sister organizations contained in Michel Chossudovsky’s report, 9/11 ANALYSIS: From Ronald Reagan and the Soviet-Afghan War to George W Bush and September 11, 2001, and the story of the former’s alleged ownership of the house where bin Laden was hiding takes on a different, darker aspect.
The account related in that report draws lines connecting Hizbul Mujahedeen (and several other supposed al-Qaeda affiliates) to the CIA. From the report:

These various "terrorist" organizations were created as a result of CIA support. They are not the product of religion. The project to establish "a pan-Islamic Caliphate" is part of a carefully devised intelligence operation.

CIA support to Al Qaeda was not in any way curtailed at the end of the Cold War. In fact quite the opposite. The earlier pattern of covert support took on a global thrust and became increasingly sophisticated.

The "Global War on Terrorism" is a complex and intricate intelligence construct. The covert support provided to "Islamic extremist groups" is part of an imperial agenda. It purports to weaken and eventually destroy secular and civilian governmental institutions, while also contributing to vilifying Islam. It is an instrument of colonization which seeks to undermine sovereign nation-states and transform countries into territories.

For the intelligence operation to be successful, however, the various Islamic organizations created and trained by the CIA must remain unaware of the role they are performing on the geopolitical chessboard, on behalf of Washington.

And:

The various fundamentalist and paramilitary groups involved in US sponsored "terrorist" activities are "intelligence assets". In the wake of 9/11, their designated function as "intelligence assets" is to perform their role as credible "enemies of America."

Under the Bush administration, the CIA continued to support (via Pakistan's ISI) several Pakistani based Islamic groups. The ISI is known to support Jamaat a-Islami, which is also present in South East Asia, Lashkar-e-Tayya­ba, Jehad a-Kashmiri, Hizbul-Mujahidin and Jaish-e-Mohammed.

As expected, the government of Pakistan, including officials of the ISI are denying the reports of Hizbul Mujahedeen’s ownership of the bin Laden house in Abbottabad.
The official response is that there is no collusion between Pakistan, the Inter Services Intelligence, and terrorists. They are faithful to the party line that Pakistan is a committed ally in the “Global War on Terror” and has handed over all relevant information to the Americans since 2009.

Also, predictably, in the wake of the breaking of this story, government officials in Islamabad immediately sent out word to local Abbottobad law enforcement and land-registry clerks to keep silent regarding the ownership of the compound. As one police officer explained: "The place belonged to Hizbul Mujahedeen," the police officer said. "But the authorities have asked us not to share any information about the exact ownership."

While the connections are difficult to precisely define or reliably confirm because of their very nature and the climate of deception surrounding the alleged participants in the conspiracy, the fact that there is even a scintilla of credible evidence that our own government through the CIA may have been paying the rent on the home of Osama bin Laden calls into question the entire final hours scenario proffered by the White House, and the legitimacy of the War on Terror.
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