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justdrew wrote:I would think that WL doesn't even know or want to know the identity of anyone giving them money.
JA re-structuring WL to resemble a legitimate news organization, is my guess. On the advice of his lawyers and in preparation of fighting extradition perhaps.Cosmic Cowbell wrote:I'm not saying it's right or wrong Sim, I'm saying it dilutes somewhat the up until now noble ideal of the "all volunteer" no ties to funding organization.
That's absurd. Facilitates a gangster organization (the US Military Industrial Cryptofascist Financial Scam Artist Family) in Taking Whatever They Want and Owning Everything, Forever, 'smore like.Cosmic Cowbell wrote:Simulist wrote:Secrecy is poison to democracy.
But it is often the grease which facilitates diplomacy in the world.
AlicetheKurious wrote:...
However, Assange said that WikiLeaks will release top secret American files related to Israel.
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these files were classified as top secret.
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Most of the files related to Mossad are classified as top secret ...
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There 2,500 files related to Mossad and I have read only 1,000. So I don’t know about everything,
The Secret Internet Protocol Router Network (SIPRNet) is "a system of interconnected computer networks used by the United States Department of Defense and the U.S. Department of State to transmit classified information (up to and including information classified SECRET) Link
Plutonia wrote:AlicetheKurious wrote:...
However, Assange said that WikiLeaks will release top secret American files related to Israel.
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these files were classified as top secret.
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Most of the files related to Mossad are classified as top secret ...
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There 2,500 files related to Mossad and I have read only 1,000. So I don’t know about everything,
This is what caught my eye in that Al Jezeera interview. Clearance on SIPRNet does not go as high as Top Secret, the highest level of secrecy classification:The Secret Internet Protocol Router Network (SIPRNet) is "a system of interconnected computer networks used by the United States Department of Defense and the U.S. Department of State to transmit classified information (up to and including information classified SECRET) Link
So, if JA is stating that accurately, and it's likely that he is because, as we've already discussed Israel doesn't like SIPRNet for communication with Washington, then that's the first shout-out I've seen for this level of leak. That's the whole enchilada. From what I understand Bradley Manning didn't have Top Secret clearance, so these docs would have come from someone else? I could be wrong about that. Any thoughts?
AlicetheKurious wrote:What would have been truly startling is any acknowledgment in the cables that John Garang, former South Sudanese rebel leader, was assassinated by his CIA and/or Mossad handlers as punishment two weeks after decreeing the dissolution of the CIA and Mossad-backed Sudanese People's Liberation Movement, ending the US and Israel sponsored bloody civil war and joining the Sudanese government as Omar Bashir's Vice President of Sudan.
“There are 3,700 files related to Israel and the source of 2,700 files is Israel. In the next six months we intend to publish more files depending on our sources,”
“We will publish 3700 files and the source is the American embassy in Tel Aviv. Prime Minister Netanyahu was traveling to Paris to talk to the US ambassador there. You will see more information about that in six months.”
”Yes there is some information about that and these files were classified as top secret.
“Yes there are some indication to this and may be some special reports published by newspapers. Mossad agents used Australian, British and European passports to travel to Dubai and there are diplomatic files about that.”
“The Guardian, El-Pais and Le Monde have published only two percent of the files related to Israel due to the sensitive relations between Germany, France and Israel. Even New York Times could not publish more due to the sensitivities related to the Jewish community in the US,”
“We were the biggest institution receiving official funding from the US but after we released a video tape about killing people in cold blood in Iraq in 2007, the funding stopped and we had to depend on individuals for finance.”
Israel destroyed Syrian nuclear reactor in 2007, leaked cable reveals
“On September 6, 2007, Israel destroyed the nuclear reactor built by Syria secretly, apparently with North Korea’s help,” then US secretary of state Condoleezza Rice wrote in the cable published in Yediot Aharonot newspaper.
“Our intelligence experts are convinced that the attack targeted by the Israelis is in fact an atomic reactor of the same type built by North Korea in Yongbyon,” she wrote in the message dated April 2008.
“We have good reason to believe that the reactor was not built for peaceful purposes,” she said, adding the attack came only weeks before the reactor was to become operational. Raw Story
JackRiddler wrote:PS, Both of these statements are also false readings:AlicetheKurious wrote:Once again, it was Assange's choice to give THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA the exclusive right to redact and select what to publish.
They do not have an exclusive right and the claim is everything will be published. That process has begun (Wikileaks.ch includes cables that haven't been in the media) and the cables are clearly spreading to newspapers outside the original group (Al-Arabiya, presumably Afterposten).Sure, six months from now, according to him. Not today, not tomorrow, not next week.
Assange's "In the next six months" != "six months from now," as it falsely interpreted.
WikiLeaks loses funding, blames US government
Posted by Heather Holm on October 15, 2010 at 4:27 PM
WikiLeaks believes that it is paying for (or rather, not being paid for) its military leak.... Moneybookers, an Internet payment company registered in Britain that collects WikiLeaks donations, emailed the company to say its account was closed down because it was on an official US watchlist and Australian government blacklist."
Senators Unveil anti-Wikileaks Law
Source: The Hill
Sens. John Ensign (R-Nev.), Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.) and Scott Brown (R-Mass.) introduced a bill Thursday aimed at stopping WikiLeaks by making it illegal to publish the names of military or intelligence community informants.
Ensign accused WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange and his "cronies" of hindering America's war efforts and creating a "hit list" for U.S. enemies by outing intelligence sources.
“Our sources are bravely risking their lives when they stand up against the tyranny of al Qaeda, the Taliban and murderous regimes, and I simply will not stand idly by as they become death targets because of Julian Assange," Ensign said. "Let me be very clear, WikiLeaks is not a whistleblower website and Assange is not a journalist.”
Assange has been under fire in recent weeks thanks to his site's dissemination of thousands of classified diplomatic cables, some of which have proved embarrassing to the Obama administration because of their frank tone. Attorney General Eric Holder recently pledged to close gaps in the law that allow sites like WikiLeaks to continue to operate.
Norway's top diplomat finds WikiLeaks "fascinating"
Source: Reuters
Dec 23 (Reuters) - Norwegian Foreign Minister Jonas Gahr Stoere said secret U.S. documents published by WikiLeaks made "fascinating" reading and are turning the tables on governments used to having the upper hand on the media. "I admit -- it is fascinating to read from parts of the raw material of foreign policy, perhaps especially for us who work in diplomacy every day," Stoere wrote in an article published on his Labour Party's website on Thursday.
"We are like voyeurs who get unexpected access... and it grows even more powerful since it comes from U.S. sources."
Stoere said the WikiLeaks phenomenon had given journalists access to information normally reserved for state officials, providing reporters with an advantage they didn't usually enjoy.
"I have to smile because now the roles between the media and the authorities are almost reversed," he said.
"Now, we in the ministry are asking for access to the press! And we will obviously have to taste our own medicine because there is limited access," Stoere wrote, adding that his request for access to an unpublished WikiLeaks document about Norwegian-Russian relations was denied by Norwegian journalists.
Norwegian newspaper Aftenposten said this week that it had gained hold of all 250,000 leaked U.S. documents, the vast majority of which had not yet been published.
Stoere criticised the "unfaithful" government workers who had leaked the documents but said there was nothing published so far relating to Norway that had surprised him.
(Reporting by Wojciech Moskwa; Editing by Peter Graff)
Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSLDE6BM1CY20101223
Julian Assange says he could be killed in US jail
From correspondents in London From:AFP December 24, 2010 12:14PM
WIKILEAKS chief Julian Assange says there is a "high chance" he would be killed in a US jail if he were to be extradited from Britain on espionage charges.
The Australian is on bail in Britain fighting a bid by Sweden to extradite him over sex assault claims, but Washington is believed to be considering how to indict him over the leaking of thousands of US diplomatic cables.
Mr Assange told The Guardian it would be "politically impossible" for Britain to send him across the Atlantic, adding that the government of Prime Minister David Cameron would want to show it had not been "co-opted" by Washington.
"Legally the UK has the right to not extradite for political crimes. Espionage is the classic case of political crimes. It is at the discretion of the UK government as to whether to apply to that exception," he said.
He said US authorities were "trying to strike a plea deal" with Bradley Manning, the US army soldier suspected of providing WikiLeaks with the cables.
Mr Assange added that if the United States succeeded in getting him extradited from Britain or Sweden, then there was a "high chance" of him being killed "Jack Ruby-style" in an American prison.
Ruby, a nightclub owner, shot dead Lee Harvey Oswald at a police station in Dallas, Texas days after Oswald was arrested for the assassination of US President John F Kennedy in 1963.
Ruby's alleged links to organised crime sparked conspiracy theories about his involvement in an overall plot surrounding the assassination of Kennedy.
Mr Assange has previously said that he and other WikiLeaks staff have received death threats since the website began to release a cache of about 250,000 secret US State Department cables in November.
The 39-year-old has been staying at a friend's country mansion in eastern England since his release from jail last week on strict bail conditions that include reporting to police daily and wearing an electronic tag.
A court in London is due to hold a full hearing on the Swedish extradition request starting February 7.
http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/ju ... 5975847087
China already succeeded in quantum teleportation
In mid-December 2009, the University of Science and Technology of China (USTC) in Hefei had academic programs focusing on Math, Physics, Chemistry, Life Sciences, Nuclear Science, Engineering, Computer Science, Information Technology, Management, Humanities, and a department dedicated to the development of gifted young people.
USTC has 37,000 staff and 40,000 graduate students. USTC oversees two national laboratories: the National Synchrotron Radiation Laboratory and the Hefei National Laboratory for Physical Science at the Microscale (HFNL). HFNL has 95 faculty members and roughly 400 graduate students.
HFNL research focuses on quantum communication, nanoscience, superconductors, spintronics, and cognitive sciences. In the area of quantum communication, HFNL was conducting research in quantum teleportation and free space quantum cryptography that scientists hope will result in “totally secure” communications. USTC also oversees China’s “Program 178,” although they did not describe the nature of this program.
A cursory walk through their labs seemed to indicate they had already succeeded in single-particle quantum teleportation and are now trying to conduct dual-particle quantum teleportation.
# Source: 10BEIJING263
JackRiddler wrote:.
http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-valle ... egislationSenators Unveil anti-Wikilleaks Law
Sens. John Ensign (R-Nev.), Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.) and Scott Brown (R-Mass.) introduced a bill Thursday aimed at stopping WikiLeaks by making it illegal to publish the names of military or intelligence community informants.
On the 25th Day of Wikileaks My Government Gave to Me
by David Swanson
On the first day of Wikileaks, my government gave to me: the military in every embassy.
On the second day of Wikileaks, my government gave to me: two criminal presidents.
On the third day of Wikileaks, my government gave to me: three illegal wars.
On the fourth day of Wikileaks, my government gave to me: four covered up crimes.
On the fifth day of Wikileaks, my government gave to me: five plutocracies (1, 2, 3, 4, 5).
[For complete article features, please see original at War is a Crime here.]
On the sixth day of Wikileaks, my government gave to me: six sycophants (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6).
On the seventh day of Wikileaks, my government gave to me: seven suicide attacks.
On the eighth day of Wikileaks, my government gave to me: eight enemy combatants.
On the ninth day of Wikileaks, my government gave to me:nine NATO divisions.
On the tenth day of Wikileaks, my government gave to me: ten years of pollution.
On the eleventh day of Wikileaks, my government gave to me: more profits for credit card companies.
On the twelfth day of Wikileaks, my government gave to me: drug company immunity.
On the thirteenth day of Wikileaks, my government gave to me: thirteen theocratic thugs.
On the fourteenth day of Wikileaks, my government gave to me:yet another war.
On the fifteenth day of Wikileaks, my government gave to me: fifteen happy followers.
On the sixteenth day of Wikileaks, my government gave to me: sixteen sadistic sanctions.
On the seventeenth day of Wikileaks, my government gave to me: seventeen infuriating peace makers.
On the eighteenth day of Wikileaks, my government gave to me: eighteen months of ignorance.
On the nineteenth day of Wikileaks, my government gave to me: Bollywood-Pentagon partnerships.
On the twentieth day of Wikileaks, my government gave to me: corporate muscle for diplomacy.
On the twenty-first day of Wikileaks, my government gave to me: black market nukes.
On the twenty-second day of Wikileaks, my government gave to me: congressional prostitution.
On the twenty-third day of Wikileaks, my government gave to me: twenty-three convicted kidnappers.
On the twenty-fourth day of Wikileaks, my government gave to me: twenty-four million McDollars.
On the twenty-fifth day of Wikileaks, my government gave to me: killing the messenger.
And 99.25% of the cables were yet to be released.
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