#OCCUPYWALLSTREET campaign - September 17

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Re: #OCCUPYWALLSTREET campaign - September 17

Postby Plutonia » Wed Oct 12, 2011 12:06 am

The results of the Fox News poll:

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Re: #OCCUPYWALLSTREET campaign - September 17

Postby N8wide » Wed Oct 12, 2011 12:31 am

Hehe I voted in that poll!
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Re: #OCCUPYWALLSTREET campaign - September 17

Postby Allegro » Wed Oct 12, 2011 1:31 am

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Thanks, ninakat for the FOX News yell-out video.

One thing that’s impressive is the manner the Wall Street occupiers rid themselves of unnecessary voices, as Ketchup described to Hedges.
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excerpt from the article Hedges’s wrote:Why the Elites Are in Trouble

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[several paragraphs down into the article]...“People have been yelled out of the park,” she said. “Someone had a sign the other day that said ‘Kill the Jew Bankers.’ They got screamed out of the park. Someone else had a sign with the N-word on it. That person’s sign was ripped up, but that person is apparently still in the park... [REFER.]
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Re: #OCCUPYWALLSTREET campaign - September 17

Postby Plutonia » Wed Oct 12, 2011 1:59 am

Occupy Denver approves American Indian Movement proposal

11 October 2011 16:22

Occupy Denver has endorsed the initiative by the American Indian Movement of Colorado on the rights of indigenous peoples.

After an hour of discussion, the Occupy Denver General Assembly expressed unanimous supported for the proposal on Sunday evening, westword.com reported.

Occupy Boston also approved a similar, but much less detailed and less specific, proposal on the rights of indigenous peoples earlier in the day.

Occupy Denver and Occupy Boston agreed to the proposals on the eve of Indigenous People's Day, which was observed on Monday.

Progressives in the United States are opposed to the official holiday called Columbus Day and celebrate Indigenous People's Day on that date.

Glenn Morris, the University of Colorado at Denver associate professor who is one of the main organizers of the Columbus Day protests in Denver, said that many Occupy Denver members "did participate with us in our protest of the Columbus Hate Speech Parade… and many of them came to the Four Winds American Indian Center to share a meal with us" on Saturday.

Following is the text of the American Indian Movement of Colorado proposal:

An Indigenous Platform Proposal for Occupy Denver

"Now we put our minds together to see what kind of world we can create for the seventh generation yet to come." - John Mohawk (1944-2006), Seneca Nation

As indigenous peoples, we welcome the awakening of those who are relatively new to our homeland. We are thankful, and rejoice, for the emergence of a movement that is mindful of its place in the environment, that seeks economic and social justice, that strives for an end to oppression in all its forms, that demands an adequate standard of food, employment, shelter and health care for all, and that calls for envisioning a new, respectful and honorable society. We have been waiting for 519 years for such a movement, ever since that fateful day in October, 1492 when a different worldview arrived -- one of greed, hierarchy, destruction and genocide.

In observing the "Occupy Together" expansion, we are reminded that the territories of our indigenous nations have been "under occupation" for decades, if not centuries. We remind the occupants of this encampment in Denver that they are on the territories of the Cheyenne, Arapaho and Ute peoples. In the U.S., indigenous nations were the first targets of corporate/government oppression. The landmark case of Johnson v. McIntosh (1823), which institutionalized the "doctrine of discovery" in U.S. law, and which justified the theft of 2 billion acres of indigenous territory, established a framework of corrupt political/legal/corporate collusion that continues throughout indigenous America, to the present.

If this movement is serious about confronting the foundational assumptions of the current U.S. system, then it must begin by addressing the original crimes of the U.S. colonizing system against indigenous nations. Without addressing justice for indigenous peoples, there can never be a genuine movement for justice and equality in the United States. Toward that end, we challenge Occupy Denver to take the lead, and to be the first "Occupy" city to integrate into its philosophy, a set of values that respects the rights of indigenous peoples, and that recognizes the importance of employing indigenous visions and models in restoring environmental, social, cultural, economic and political health to our homeland.

We call on Occupy Denver to adopt, as a starting point, the following:

1. To repudiate the Doctrine of Christian Discovery, to endorse the repeal of the papal bull Inter Caetera (1493) to work for the reversal of the U.S. Supreme Court case of Johnson v. M'Intosh (1823), and call for a repeal of the Columbus Day holiday as a Colorado and United States holiday.

2. To endorse the right of all indigenous peoples to the international right of self-determination, by virtue of which they freely determine their political status, and freely pursue their economic, social and cultural futures.

3. To demand the recognition, observance and enforcement of all treaties and agreements freely entered into between indigenous nations and the United States. Treaties should be recognized as binding international instruments. Disputes should be recognized as a proper concern of international law, and should be arbitrated by impartial international bodies.

4. To insist that Indigenous people shall never be forcibly relocated from their lands or territories.

5. To acknowledge that Indigenous peoples have the right to practice and teach their spiritual and religious traditions customs and ceremonies, including in institutions of the State, e.g. prisons, jails and hospitals, and to have access in privacy to their religious and cultural sites, and the right to the repatriation of their human remains and funeral objects.

6. To recognize that Indigenous peoples and nations are entitled to the permanent control and enjoyment of their aboriginal-ancestral territories. This includes surface and subsurface rights, inland and coastal waters, renewable and non-renewable resources, and the economies based on these resources. In advancement of this position, to stand in solidarity with the Cree nations, whose territories are located in occupied northern Alberta, Canada, in their opposition to the Tar Sands development, the largest industrial project on Earth. Further, to demand that President Barack Obama deny the permit for the Keystone XL Pipeline, proposed to run from the tar sands in Canada into the United States, and that the United States prohibit the use or transportation of Tar Sands oil in the United States.

7. To assert that Indigenous peoples have the right to maintain, control, protect and develop their cultural heritage, traditional knowledge and traditional cultural expressions. They have the right to maintain, control, protect and develop their intellectual property over such cultural heritage, traditional knowledge, and traditional cultural expressions. Further, indigenous peoples have the right to the ownership and protection of their human biological and genetic materials, samples, and stewardship of non-human biological and genetic materials found in indigenous territories.

8. To recognize that the settler state boundaries in the Americas are colonial fabrications that should not limit or restrict the ability of indigenous peoples to travel freely, without inhibition or restriction, throughout the Americas. This is especially true for indigenous nations whose people and territories have been separated by the acts of settler states that established international borders without the free, prior and informed consent of the indigenous peoples affected.

9. To demand that the United States shall take no adverse action regarding the territories, lands, resources or people of indigenous nations without the free, prior and informed consent of the indigenous peoples affected.

10. To demand the immediate release of American Indian political prisoner, Leonard Peltier, U.S. Prisoner #89637-132, from U.S. federal custody.

Finally, we also remind Occupy Denver that indigenous histories, political, cultural, environmental, medical, spiritual and economic traditions provide rich examples for frameworks that can offer concrete models of alternatives to the current crises facing the United States. We request that Occupy Denver actively utilize and integrate indigenous perspectives, teachers, and voices in its deliberations and decision-making processes.


(Source: Press TV)

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Re: #OCCUPYWALLSTREET campaign - September 17

Postby Elvis » Wed Oct 12, 2011 3:28 am

Plutonia wrote:The results of the Fox News poll:

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YES!!!
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Re: #OCCUPYWALLSTREET campaign - September 17

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Re: #OCCUPYWALLSTREET campaign - September 17

Postby 2012 Countdown » Wed Oct 12, 2011 8:24 am

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PEJ NEWS COVERAGE INDEX: OCTOBER 3-9, 2011
OCCUPY WALL STREET DRIVES ECONOMIC COVERAGE


The economy reclaimed its perch at the top of the news agenda as the No. 1 story last week, largely driven by dramatically increasing media attention to the Occupy Wall Street demonstrations.

Overall economic coverage accounted for 22% of the newshole from October 3-9, up from 14% the week before (when it was No. 2), according to the Pew Research Center’s Project for Excellence in Journalism. The protests largely aimed at Wall Street constituted the largest single thread in that coverage, making up about one-third of the economic storyline. That amounted to roughly 7% of the overall newshole, or nearly four times the amount of protest coverage from the week before.

The debate over President Obama’s jobs bill was largely responsible for the second biggest theme of economic coverage last week, the employment situation, which accounted for an additional one-third of economic coverage.

Last week was also the biggest yet for 2012 campaign coverage, at 18% of the newshole. That subject generated the most attention on cable TV, accounting for 34% of the airtime studied. For the past month, the campaign, at 14% of the newshole, has been the No. 2 story behind the economy—suggesting the media have entered a new phase of the election cycle in which the presidential race is a weekly priority.

Much of the coverage last week hung on the buildup to a big announcement by New Jersey Governor Chris Christie, who—despite a growing clamor for his candidacy—announced on October 4 that he would not run. Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin also announced last week that she would not run for president. But the timing of that announcement—the same evening the world learned of Apple CEO Steve Jobs’ death—may have tamped down media attention to her.

Among the other top stories last week was the October 5 death of Jobs, a man who for years had struggled publicly with pancreatic cancer. The next morning, Jobs’ image was emblazoned on major newspapers from The New York Times to The Wall Street Journal. Fueled largely by his death, news involving Apple—which included the release of the latest iPhone version—was the No. 3 story, at 11% of the newshole.

At No. 4 last week was the dramatic acquittal of an American woman, Amanda Knox, in an Italian court on murder charges. The story was No. 1 on network television at 14% of the airtime studied, and accounted for 7% of the overall coverage.

News about the winners of this year’s Nobel Peace Prize represented the No. 5 story last week, at 4% of the newshole. Among the winners featured in news reports were three women from Libya and Liberia who have advocated peace and women’s rights in war zones.

Occupy Wall Street Occupies the Media

Media attention to the Occupy Wall Street protests has increased as the protests have gained momentum.
On September 17, demonstrators first set up camp in Zuccotti Park in lower Manhattan, positioning themselves in the city’s financial district. The leaderless group of activists, standing against “corporate greed and social inequality,” generated negligible media coverage during that first week.

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But as the protests grew in size and intensity, as on September 24 when many marched toward Union Square, the press began to take more notice. On October 1, more than 700 demonstrators were arrested as they marched across Brooklyn Bridge. During the week of September 26-October 2, the protests got a little more media traction, accounting for 2% of the overall newshole.

Last week, similar protests emerged in major cities around the country, including Los Angeles, Chicago, Boston and elsewhere. It was at this point that coverage began to spike, with the volume of coverage increasing each day. On Monday, October 3, the protests amounted to 4% of the newshole, and by Thursday, October 6, they accounted for 12%. By this time, labor unions and Hollywood celebrities had joined forces with the crowds.

Early in the week, media outlets were still trying to grasp what the protests were about. ABC’s Dan Harris took a tour of the temporary village set up at the heart of the protests in New York, pointing out an information booth, a media center, and food stands with free, donated goods. “The one thing they don’t have—a clear focus,” he said during a World News Tonight segment on October 3.

The Washington Post on October 4 described the protesters as “having no single leader and no organized agenda.”
Among cable and radio talk programs, where attention to the demonstrations was heavy, the tone of analysis depended on the politics of the outlet or host.

Conservatives jeered the Occupy Wall Street protesters. Bill O’Reilly during his October 3 program described their agenda in his own words: “This is ‘I hate capitalism, I want this socialist nirvana, and I’m going to disrupt everybody’s life to make my point.’ That’s wrong.”
Liberal MSNBC host Ed Schultz defended the protestors in a live broadcast from Wall Street on October 5. “This just might be the movement that starts a major change in this country,” he said.

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I have written this song for the protestors in New York, thought you might need a battle hymn.


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CHARTS: Here's What The Wall Street Protesters Are So Angry About...
Henry Blodget | Oct. 11, 2011, 1:03 PM

The "Occupy Wall Street" protests are gaining momentum, having spread from a small park in New York to marches around the city to other cities across the country.
So far, the protests seem fueled by a collective sense that things in our economy are not fair or right. But the protesters have not done a good job of focusing their complaints—and thus have been skewered for not knowing what they stand for or want.
(An early list of "grievances" included some legitimate beefs, but was otherwise just a vague attack on "corporations." Given that these are the same corporations that employ more than 100 million Americans and make the products we all use every day and, this broadside did not resonate with most Americans).
So, what are the protesters so upset about, really?
Do they have legitimate gripes?
To answer the latter question first, yes, they do.
They have very legitimate gripes.
And if America cannot figure out a way to address these gripes, the country will likely become increasingly "de-stabilized," as sociologists might say. And in that scenario, the current protests will likely be only the beginning.
The problem in a nutshell is this: Inequality in this country has hit a level that has been seen only once in the nation's history—at the end of the 1920s. Unemployment has also reached a level that has been seen only once since the Great Depression.
In other words, in the never-ending tug-of-war between "labor" and "capital," there has rarely—if ever—been a time when "capital" was so clearly winning.
So here's what the Wall Street protesters are so angry about -

http://www.businessinsider.com/what-wal ... ut-2011-10
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Re: #OCCUPYWALLSTREET campaign - September 17

Postby Free » Wed Oct 12, 2011 8:33 am

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Millionaires March piggybacks on Occupy Wall Street momentum, as protests rage near tycoons' homes

BY HELEN KENNEDY
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITERS

Originally Published:Tuesday, October 11th 2011, 3:12 PM
Updated: Tuesday, October 11th 2011, 6:38 PM

Protesters who say the state's tax on millionaires should not expire marched on the Upper East Side apartments of five of the city's richest men Tuesday.

They carried giant checks for $5 billion - how much they say the state will lose when the tax dies in December - made out to "the top 1%" and tried to give them to each tycoon.

The target list: News Corp. CEO Rupert Murdoch, conservative billionaire David Koch, financier Howard Milstein, JP Morgan Chase CEO Jamie Dimon and hedge fund titan John Paulson.

"(Gov.) Andrew Cuomo and the Legislature are about to give this man and his billionaire friends a $5 billion tax cut," the crowd of several hundred chanted at each address.

"We are the 99% and we are here to say no more tax cuts for the billionaires while we cut schoolteachers, firefighters and cops."

None of the moguls were home, it seemed.

"Nobody comes to the door, not even the doormen. They won't even open the doors," mourned Rex Stewart of the Niagara Organizing Alliance for Hope, who was carrying one of the oversize stunt checks.

No one really expected any of the targeted fat cats to make an appearance. That wasn't the point.

"This is the best that street theater could possibly be," said Stuart Chen-Hayes, a CUNYprofessor.

"To be able to go up to the door of a man like Rupert Murdoch, who has single-handedly been responsible for challenging democracy in Australia, Britain and the US - it's one of the most powerful things I've ever done."

He said he came to the march because some of his graduate students, many of whom come from struggling homes in the Bronx, are being forced to drop out by higher CUNY fees.

"When these giant mega-billionaires are running off with huge tax cuts, my students have to pay more tuition," Chen-Hayes said.

The so-called "Millionaire's March," which kicked off around 1 p.m. in front of the Plaza Hotel, had a festive feel.

A brass band and drummers marked time as the three-block long procession wound its way along Fifth and Park Aves. into the 90s.
The NYPD was out in force but did not interfere with the marchers. There were no arrests.

Along the way, the protesters were occasionally cheered by nannies, dog-walkers, doormen and maids who peered down from the windows in the ritzy buildings.

As the protesters went by a building at Park Ave. and 89th St. chanting "we are the 99%," a construction worker inside yelled down, "So am I! Damn right! My whole life!"

Even the Ladies Who Lunch seemed more amused than upset.

"They are floating in space as far as I'm concerned," said Sandy Harris, an Upper East Sider of a certain age who said she agreed with the protesters, but wished they would do something more constructive than "marching or sitting in parks."

"Millionaires should really pay their dues," Harris said.

A woman walking a large French poodle sighed, "I was young and passionate once, too."

Mayor Bloomberg said the protesters choice of targets - especially Dimon - didn't make sense.

"Jamie Dimon is one of the great bankers. He's brought more business to this city than any modern banker," the mayor said.

Gov. Cuomo staunchly opposes calls from his fellow Democrats to renew the tax, which generates up to $5 billion per year in much-needed revenue. He says he fears the rich will move away.

Outside Dimon's apartment on 93rd St. and Park Ave. the protesters chanted, "If you want to move out, we'll help you move out!"

The march was organized by a slew of unions and community organizations and was only loosely affiliated with the Occupy Wall Street protest marking its 25th day in Manhattan.

As the anti-Wall Street demonstrations continued to gather steam outside New York, there were more police crackdowns.

Six Occupy DC protesters were arrested trying to enter the Hart Senate office building with banners.

And more than 120 Occupy Boston protesters were rounded up after refusing to leave theRose Kennedy Greenway, a 1.5-mile stretch of parks and public spaces in downtownBoston.

The demonstrators were rounded up over fears they would trample on recently planted shrubs that cost the city $150,000.

One striking protester video showed a line of war veterans holding the Stars and Stripes trying to stand against a police onslaught, only to have their ranks broken and their flags toppled to the ground.

They were chanting: "We are the veterans of the United States of America" and "Shame! Shame! Shame!"

 
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Re: #OCCUPYWALLSTREET campaign - September 17

Postby Bruce Dazzling » Wed Oct 12, 2011 8:42 am

From a Facebook post I just saw:

‎"What They did not want you to ever find out is that your generation, the generation born between 1980-1995, actually outnumbers the Baby Boomers. They knew that if you ever turned your eye towards political reform, you could change the world.

They tried to keep you sated on vapid television shows and vapid music. They cut off your education and fed you brain candy. They took away your music and gave you Top Ten pop stations. They cut off your art and replaced it with endless reality shows for you to plug into, hoping you would sit quietly by as They ran the world. I think They thought you were too dumb to notice.

Indeed, I thought They had won.

But I watched you occupy the capital of Wisconsin. I see you today as you occupy Wall Street. And I see a spark, a glimmer of the glorious new age that is yours. A changing of the guard, a guard that has stood for entirely too long and needs your young legs to take his place.

I watch you turn away from what is easy and stand up for what is right. I see you understand we as a society are only as strong as our weakest link. I see you wise beyond your years. And I am proud. Give ‘em hell, kids. You are beautiful." -Kate Danley

We are the 99% and together we are strong.
Together, we will triumph as we merge once again to 100%.
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Re: #OCCUPYWALLSTREET campaign - September 17

Postby 2012 Countdown » Wed Oct 12, 2011 10:23 am

Occupy Together Field Manual

This is a collective wiki for all occupy movements, but city-specific sub-categories are encouraged:

Tips for starting your own Occupy Together Self-Sustaining Community for Long-Term Activism

Create Working Groups
•Media
•Legal
•Research/Fact Checking
•Community Outreach
•Graphic Design Group (see: Arts and Culture)
•Arts & Culture
•Food
•Direct Action
•Internet Connectivity
•Medical
•Waste Disposal & Cleanliness
•Treasury
•Hacktivism
•Child Care
•Town Planning

Have a Daily Schedule
•General Assembly Twice a day.
◦People's Mic
◦Hand Gestures
•Protest Marches
•Community Meals

Set up Donations
•Internet Donations
•In-Person Donations
•How to handle and distribute funds to working groups

Police/Protester Etiquette: A Body Language Protocol.
•Combative Body Language Will Lead to Arrest

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Re: #OCCUPYWALLSTREET campaign - September 17

Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Oct 12, 2011 10:56 am

My Advice to the Occupy Wall Street Protesters Hit bankers where it hurts
By Matt Taibbi
October 12, 2011 8:00 AM ET

I've been down to "Occupy Wall Street" twice now, and I love it. The protests building at Liberty Square and spreading over Lower Manhattan are a great thing, the logical answer to the Tea Party and a long-overdue middle finger to the financial elite. The protesters picked the right target and, through their refusal to disband after just one day, the right tactic, showing the public at large that the movement against Wall Street has stamina, resolve and growing popular appeal.

But... there's a but. And for me this is a deeply personal thing, because this issue of how to combat Wall Street corruption has consumed my life for years now, and it's hard for me not to see where Occupy Wall Street could be better and more dangerous. I'm guessing, for instance, that the banks were secretly thrilled in the early going of the protests, sure they'd won round one of the messaging war.

Why? Because after a decade of unparalleled thievery and corruption, with tens of millions entering the ranks of the hungry thanks to artificially inflated commodity prices, and millions more displaced from their homes by corruption in the mortgage markets, the headline from the first week of protests against the financial-services sector was an old cop macing a quartet of college girls.

That, to me, speaks volumes about the primary challenge of opposing the 50-headed hydra of Wall Street corruption, which is that it's extremely difficult to explain the crimes of the modern financial elite in a simple visual. The essence of this particular sort of oligarchic power is its complexity and day-to-day invisibility: Its worst crimes, from bribery and insider trading and market manipulation, to backroom dominance of government and the usurping of the regulatory structure from within, simply can't be seen by the public or put on TV. There just isn't going to be an iconic "Running Girl" photo with Goldman Sachs, Citigroup or Bank of America – just 62 million Americans with zero or negative net worth, scratching their heads and wondering where the hell all their money went and why their votes seem to count less and less each and every year.

No matter what, I'll be supporting Occupy Wall Street. And I think the movement's basic strategy – to build numbers and stay in the fight, rather than tying itself to any particular set of principles – makes a lot of sense early on. But the time is rapidly approaching when the movement is going to have to offer concrete solutions to the problems posed by Wall Street. To do that, it will need a short but powerful list of demands. There are thousands one could make, but I'd suggest focusing on five:

1. Break up the monopolies. The so-called "Too Big to Fail" financial companies – now sometimes called by the more accurate term "Systemically Dangerous Institutions" – are a direct threat to national security. They are above the law and above market consequence, making them more dangerous and unaccountable than a thousand mafias combined. There are about 20 such firms in America, and they need to be dismantled; a good start would be to repeal the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act and mandate the separation of insurance companies, investment banks and commercial banks.

2. Pay for your own bailouts. A tax of 0.1 percent on all trades of stocks and bonds and a 0.01 percent tax on all trades of derivatives would generate enough revenue to pay us back for the bailouts, and still have plenty left over to fight the deficits the banks claim to be so worried about. It would also deter the endless chase for instant profits through computerized insider-trading schemes like High Frequency Trading, and force Wall Street to go back to the job it's supposed to be doing, i.e., making sober investments in job-creating businesses and watching them grow.

3. No public money for private lobbying. A company that receives a public bailout should not be allowed to use the taxpayer's own money to lobby against him. You can either suck on the public teat or influence the next presidential race, but you can't do both. Butt out for once and let the people choose the next president and Congress.

4. Tax hedge-fund gamblers. For starters, we need an immediate repeal of the preposterous and indefensible carried-interest tax break, which allows hedge-fund titans like Stevie Cohen and John Paulson to pay taxes of only 15 percent on their billions in gambling income, while ordinary Americans pay twice that for teaching kids and putting out fires. I defy any politician to stand up and defend that loophole during an election year.

5. Change the way bankers get paid. We need new laws preventing Wall Street executives from getting bonuses upfront for deals that might blow up in all of our faces later. It should be: You make a deal today, you get company stock you can redeem two or three years from now. That forces everyone to be invested in his own company's long-term health – no more Joe Cassanos pocketing multimillion-dollar bonuses for destroying the AIGs of the world.

To quote the immortal political philosopher Matt Damon from Rounders, "The key to No Limit poker is to put a man to a decision for all his chips." The only reason the Lloyd Blankfeins and Jamie Dimons of the world survive is that they're never forced, by the media or anyone else, to put all their cards on the table. If Occupy Wall Street can do that – if it can speak to the millions of people the banks have driven into foreclosure and joblessness – it has a chance to build a massive grassroots movement. All it has to do is light a match in the right place, and the overwhelming public support for real reform – not later, but right now – will be there in an instant.
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Re: #OCCUPYWALLSTREET campaign - September 17

Postby 2012 Countdown » Wed Oct 12, 2011 10:59 am

Oh Alex 'Jonestown', once again, an example of you LYING to advance your own person agenda...and those who help you spout your lies and misinformation to DIVIDE (you small minded obnoxious dumbass) marching against the FEDERAL RESERVE...


San Francisco News'Occupy San Francisco' marching in SF this morning
Updated at 07:38 AM today

SAN FRANCISCO (KGO) -- Supporters of "Occupy San Francisco" are marching in the Financial District right now to protest what they see as economic inequality.

The "Occupy Wall Street" movement spread to San Francisco last week. A coalition of labor and community groups and planning to march from the Federal Reserve Bank on Market Street through the Financial District this morning. They say they want banks pay their fair share of taxes and be held accountable for their role in the economic crisis.

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10,000 Wall Street workers to be laid off
Michael Muskal, Los Angeles Times
los angeles times October 12, 2011 04:00 AM

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.c ... z1aa0VEdLv

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October 11, 2011, 4:02 pm
Bankers’ Salaries vs. Everyone Else’s
By CATHERINE RAMPELL
Why are the Occupy Wall Streeters so angry at bankers? This chart might give you some idea:

http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/ ... one-elses/?

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Re: #OCCUPYWALLSTREET campaign - September 17

Postby Jeff » Wed Oct 12, 2011 2:00 pm

Richard Dolan posted this on FB half an hour ago: "Okay, I just saw something that has truly creeped me out. Can anyone comment on this? What is this all about?"

Occupy Atlanta hynotizes zombie collectivists with cult-like trance

Here's a great example of the distorted collectivist mindset of Marxists and socialists who want to toss out individuality and liberty in exchange for centrally-commanded doublespeak. What will you do when these zombies come after your individual liberties in the name of "the common good?"


http://naturalnews.tv/v.asp?v=8B371A69A ... 002647DBBC

Dolan also linked to a Prison Planet piece about "collectivist zombie training" as "classic mind control" to "eliminate the individual mind."

I replied that, er, no; it's not zombie hypnosis, actually. It's a human microphone, because electronic amplification is not permitted. I think Dolan gets it now, but apparently many still don't.

Anyway, what shit this is. But it illustrates a core distinction between the Tea Party and OWS that often goes unstated. The former argues for the primacy of the individual, so their contention isn't really with self-actualizing bankers so much as a government, albeit weakened, that still taxes and regulates. The latter is advocating for the primacy of society, which sounds both quaint and radical, and is enough to make both neoliberals and libertarians nervous.
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Re: #OCCUPYWALLSTREET campaign - September 17

Postby 2012 Countdown » Wed Oct 12, 2011 2:27 pm

Jeff wrote:Richard Dolan posted this on FB half an hour ago: "Okay, I just saw something that has truly creeped me out. Can anyone comment on this? What is this all about?"

Occupy Atlanta hynotizes zombie collectivists with cult-like trance

Here's a great example of the distorted collectivist mindset of Marxists and socialists who want to toss out individuality and liberty in exchange for centrally-commanded doublespeak. What will you do when these zombies come after your individual liberties in the name of "the common good?"


http://naturalnews.tv/v.asp?v=8B371A69A ... 002647DBBC

Dolan also linked to a Prison Planet piece about "collectivist zombie training" as "classic mind control" to "eliminate the individual mind."

I replied that, er, no; it's not zombie hypnosis, actually. It's a human microphone, because electronic amplification is not permitted. I think Dolan gets it now, but apparently many still don't.

Anyway, what shit this is. But it illustrates a core distinction between the Tea Party and OWS that often goes unstated. The former argues for the primacy of the individual, so their contention isn't really with self-actualizing bankers so much as a government, albeit weakened, that still taxes and regulates. The latter is advocating for the primacy of society, which sounds both quaint and radical, and is enough to make both neoliberals and libertarians nervous.


You should (not really, unless its to hear the jealous ravings) listen to Alex Jones the last few days. He is absolutely furious (and jealous) that he couldn't push Ron Paul, so now he is in full attack mode telling lie after lie, spreading all the Ann Coulter, typical rabid reactionary right nonsense. He couldn't get HIS way, so he is on a mission to trash those who don't want specific candidate signs up. He is bashing Union involvement "they can have teir signs but we can't". As if that is the same. He constantly lying about how OWS is not protesting the Fed. The way he talks with certainty as the words come out of his ass is desperate and petty. Such a small minded, self-centered mental case.
Days ago he said Soros and Tide foundation, etc. was the source, now later when anyone can see he was LYING, as if he didn't state that emphatically, he says, 'see as I said all along, its been co-opted'...um, you're retarded dude.

So, to address your post, and as I see you mention Prison Planet, I would say Alex Jones is leading the charge to trash OWS. I just love the words he uses too. "Confirmed", "admitted", "we know", etc. All building upon his paranoid, persecuted, narcissistic, needs.
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