'Not for public': the oil spill may be getting much worse

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Postby Nordic » Sat Jun 19, 2010 4:03 pm

http://www.thenation.com/blog/fueling-w ... and-gas-bp

Fueling War: Pentagon Still Buying Most of Its Oil and Gas from BP

Last October, Peter Orszag, the director of the Office of Management and Budget, sent out a memo to the heads of all federal agencies ordering them to ensure that no federal funds were awarded or obligated to the community organization ACORN. Orszag's memo was a response to bipartisan legislation known as the De-fund ACORN Act, passed after right-wing activist and wanna-be pimp James O'Keefe's propaganda film sparked mass-hysteria about the community organization.

ACORN was hardly a major US government contractor--the group had received just $53 million over the course of 15 years in federal dollars, most of it in the form of funding for low income housing initiatives. ACORN has never received any money from the Department of Defense, yet Undersecretary of Defense Shay Assad, the Pentagon’s top contracting official, sent a memo to the commanders and directors of all branches of the military instructing them to cease all business with ACORN and to take “all necessary and appropriate” steps to prevent future contracts with the organization. All of this happened because ACORN was accused of some of its workers giving improper tax advice to a fake prostitute.

Contrast the Congressional response to ACORN's federal contracts with its response to BP, which does billions of dollars in business with the federal government, specifically the Pentagon. BP holds more than $2 billion in annual US defense contracts and continues to be the premiere provider of fuel to the world's largest consumer of oil and gas: the Pentagon. BP is responsible for the worst environmental crime in US history. It is responsible for the deaths of 11 oil rig workers. Attorney General Eric Holder said he is conducting both criminal and civil probes into BP's actions in the US Gulf.

And yet, there is no real, bi-partisan Congressional march to de-fund BP. The White House is reportedly considering the possibility of debarment of BP, but as of last week no formal inquiry had begun. Last week, The Wall Street Journal reported, "Cutting BP off from future government contracts, though, would be an unprecedented and highly complicated move, lawyers say. BP supplies the military with nearly 12% of its fuel needs, making it the Pentagon's largest fuel supplier, with Royal Dutch Shell coming in a close second, according to the Defense Logistics Agency. 'It is not hard to block a debarment if an argument exists that it would harm the government, especially on national security grounds,' said Robert Burton, a Washington lawyer who worked as the Bush administration's top procurement official."

It isn't that there is no Congressional action happening, but rather that it is dramatically understated given the gravity of the situation and its past excitement over the fake pimp ACORN scandal. Late last month, the House of Representatives passed an amendment to the Defense Reauthorization bill which calls on the Secretary of Defense to reevaluate all defense contracts with BP and consider debarring BP if it is determined not to be a "responsible source." According to the Federal Acquisition Regulations, all federal contractors must meet the definition of a "responsible source," one provision of which states that the prospective contractor "has a satisfactory record of integrity and business ethics."

The amendment was put forward by Illinois Democrat Luis Gutierrez. "There is ample evidence leading up to and including the current disaster in the Gulf of Mexico that BP is not a 'responsible source' and shows a consistent disregard for federal law and the lives and livelihoods of Americans," Gutierrez said. The bill is currently in the Senate.
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Re: 'Not for public': the oil spill may be getting much worse

Postby 2012 Countdown » Sat Jun 19, 2010 4:05 pm

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Hayward Family Crest and Name History

http://www.houseofnames.com/xq/asp.fc/q ... -crest.htm


Thanks for the link. I've taken the liberty of updating his family crest-

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Re: 'Not for public': the oil spill may be getting much worse

Postby stoneonstone » Sat Jun 19, 2010 5:00 pm

Funny reworking...

But you have to remember, there is no such thing as a family coat of arms or a crest (that part above a helmet).

In heraldry - especially western European & in Great Britain - the rule is one person, one coat of arms. Every coat of arms has to be different.

Maybe our hero has a patent registered with the College of Arms.

If not, then everyone has a free hand to come up with one they'd like to see him assume.

Knock yourselves out. I look forward to the creative punishment you inflict....if only to forget for a moment about the real shitstorm we all face;.
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Re: 'Not for public': the oil spill may be getting much worse

Postby Jeff » Sat Jun 19, 2010 6:48 pm

A "perplexing plague" in southern Tennessee, believed to be airborne, yet no mention of benzene, dispersants et al.

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Re: 'Not for public': the oil spill may be getting much worse

Postby Cordelia » Sat Jun 19, 2010 7:01 pm

2012 Countdown wrote:
82_28 wrote:[
Hayward Family Crest and Name History

http://www.houseofnames.com/xq/asp.fc/q ... -crest.htm


Thanks for the link. I've taken the liberty of updating his family crest-

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Re: 'Not for public': the oil spill may be getting much worse

Postby lupercal » Sat Jun 19, 2010 7:10 pm

Cuba Readies to Face BP Oil Spill

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HAVANA TIMES, June 16 — With the help of Venezuelan specialists Cuba is preparing to deal with the possible arrival of the BP oil spill to its pristine coasts, said General Ramon Espinosa, a deputy minister of the Revolutionary Armed Forces (FAR).

Espinosa spoke at a conference on disasters taking place in Havana. He said the island lacks experience on dealing with oil spill disasters and thus asked for experts from its chief ally.

Another top military official, Gen. Ramon Pardo, who heads the islands civil defense, said it would be a “serious misfortune” if the oil slick reaches Cuban coasts. The tourism and fishing industries would be the most affected. Pardo said the government has begun to prepare the population in the most vulnerable zones to confront such a possibility, reported IPS.

http://www.havanatimes.org/?p=25114

and from Reuters:

Millions of gallons of oil have gushed into the gulf in the 57-day-old spill and fouled 120 miles (190 km) of U.S. coastline.

Patches of oil reportedly have been seen as close as 100 miles (160 km) northwest of Cuba and some forecasts have said gulf currents will inevitably carry the oil to Cuba, which is 90 miles (145 km) south of Key West, Florida.

International scientists say Cuba's waters and coastline are relatively pristine because of the lack of development common in many other countries.

Its northwest coast is a feeding and breeding ground for many species, including migratory sea turtles, sharks and manatees in danger of extinction.

SNIP

Cuba does not have any offshore oil production, but Spanish oil giant Repsol YPF has contracted for a rig to drill exploration wells off of Cuba's coast later this year or early in 2011.

http://af.reuters.com/article/worldNews ... 15?sp=true

and from UK Gaurdian:

The BP spill may give Cubans pause over plans to develop northern offshore deposits estimated at 5bn barrels of oil and 10tn cubic feet of natural gas.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/ju ... -oil-spill
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Re: 'Not for public': the oil spill may be getting much worse

Postby Elvis » Sat Jun 19, 2010 7:40 pm

all federal contractors must meet the definition of a "responsible source," one provision of which states that the prospective contractor "has a satisfactory record of integrity and business ethics

... :rofl:

A bit off topic, but have a look at this list of top 100 defense contractors:

http://www.govexec.com/features/0809-15/0809-15s3s1.htm

Under the stated regulation, at least a few should be debarred immediately; how many others?

In other words, good luck debarring BP.
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Re: 'Not for public': the oil spill may be getting much worse

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Re: 'Not for public': the oil spill may be getting much worse

Postby Jeff » Sun Jun 20, 2010 3:54 pm

Document Shows BP Estimates Spill Up to 100, 000 Bpd

June 20, 2010

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - An internal BP Plc document released on Sunday by a senior U.S. congressional Democrat shows that the company estimates that a worst-case scenario rate for the Gulf of Mexico oil spill could be about 100,000 barrels of oil per day.

The estimate of 100,000 barrels (4.2 million gallons/15.9 million liters) of oil per day is far higher than the current U.S. government estimate of up to 60,000 barrels (2.5 million gallons/9.5 million liters) per day gushing from the ruptured offshore well into the sea.

The document, which is undated, was released by U.S. Representative Ed Markey, chairman of the energy and environment subcommittee of the House of Representatives Energy and Commerce Committee.

The amount of oil actually gushing from the well has been a matter of considerable controversy since the spill began on April 20, with critics saying BP has understated the flow rate.

BP spokesman Toby Odone said the document appeared to be genuine but the estimate applied only to a situation in which a key piece of equipment called a blowout preventer is removed.

"Since there are no plans to remove the blowout preventer, the number is irrelevant," BP spokesman Toby Odone said.

The document appears to estimate the highest potential flow of oil if key components of the well fail. The document does not indicate that the 100,000 barrels per day is BP's estimate of the actual amount flowing from the ruptured Gulf of Mexico well.

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http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2010/06/ ... 2&ref=news
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Re: 'Not for public': the oil spill may be getting much worse

Postby Simulist » Sun Jun 20, 2010 5:15 pm

I thought "Baghdad Bob" was dead.

What a surprise to find out that he's been working for BP.
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Re: 'Not for public': the oil spill may be getting much worse

Postby 2012 Countdown » Sun Jun 20, 2010 6:25 pm

Here's another one for posterity...
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Re: 'Not for public': the oil spill may be getting much worse

Postby Nordic » Sun Jun 20, 2010 7:21 pm

Jesus christ. If I could afford it, I'd be right there helping out with that. I love birds, always have. My son has watched me save the life of two baby birds just in the last year. I've always had a strange connection or something with them. That's just godawful to see that.
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Re: 'Not for public': the oil spill may be getting much worse

Postby Cordelia » Sun Jun 20, 2010 8:17 pm

Jeez, it is awful, it's like watching an on-going snuff film.

Living on a farm for so many years, I've experienced the privilege & heartbreak of being with animals when they leave this life. If they've been well cared and lived a good, long life, it's sad, but a privilege to witness their passing; if it's a premature death through illness or accident, it's a heart breaking and wrenching experience. Seeing a horse succumb and fall to the ground is like watching a magnificent ship suddenly sink and its an image that stays with you. But the death that was the hardest of all to witness was a duck mortally wounded by a hawk. There was no way to repair the damage to her wing; transporting her to a vet to euthanize her would have been too traumatic for her and I couldn't bring myself to kill her, so I just sat and held her until she expired and wrapped her in a shroud to bury her when my daughter got home............

There is something so special and vulnerable about all these feathered creatures.

I'm not cut out to do this with animals, I never was.
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Re: 'Not for public': the oil spill may be getting much worse

Postby Iamwhomiam » Sun Jun 20, 2010 8:20 pm

justdrew,

Biomass, at least in most of its applications, is an ultimately unsustainable technology and a foolish investment. The only form of biomass energy production I support is anaerobic digestion from livestock waste, particularly that from CAFOS or Concentrated Animal feeding Operations (which I am strongly opposed to) but even this too, continues us farther down a carbon emitting path when the methane it produces is burned to make energy. Devoting croplands and the tremendous water demands growing these crops solely for distilling into ethanol to be burned to make electrical energy is absurd, especially when we know as much as we do about anthropogenic global warming and so many in our world are starving to death.

Instead of developing these very expensive and wasteful carbon emitting technologies, like plasma arc gasification or Fischer-Tropsch syngas systems, we should only be investing our dwindling tax-derived monies in relatively carbon-neutral systems of energy production like WInd, Solar and Micro-hydro.

Likewise, Hydrogen filled airships is as absurd; undoubtedly you've heard of the von Hindenburg? Why not use helium?

So, how's the wold's most notorious CEO doing today after his day of relaxing sailing in clear waters in the friggin JP Morgan yacht race? C'mo, you know I'm referring to "Wayward" Hayward. Sheesh, we little people have so little in common with the BIG PEOPLE, those multi-millionaire execs, with their multi-million dollar annual salaries. I wonder if he sent father's day cards to the now fatherless families?

Enough ranting... While I hope this will work, I fear it to be an effort in futility.

Far offshore, crews drill into Gulf to stop oil
By RAY HENRY, Associated Press Writer Ray Henry, Associated Press Writer 5 mins ago

ON THE GULF OF MEXICO – Fly by helicopter above the patchy wetlands along the Mississippi River Delta and past the floating boom and skimmers that have failed to protect the Gulf Coast from the worst oil spill in U.S. history. Keep following the finger-like oil slicks speckled orange and brown that threaten it still.

About 40 miles from the coast a fleet of ships appears. They look like toys packed in a two-mile-square patch of dull water. It's easy to see the approaching drill rig with its 200-foot derrick, offering what is likely the best chance for permanently stopping the nation's worst environmental disaster.

The Sikorsky chopper reaches it and settles on its landing pad. The thwack of the rotors quiets down, and a rig worker steps into the helicopter cabin.

"OK, welcome to the DDII," he says.

Transocean Ltd.'s Development Driller II is one of two rigs slowly grinding their drill bits 13,000 feet below the seafloor until they intersect the well damaged April 20 when another Transocean rig exploded, killing 11 workers and triggering the massive oil leak. A group of reporters that included The Associated Press had a rare chance to tour the rig Saturday.

Once one of the two relief wells intersects the damaged line, BP plans to pump heavy drilling mud in to stop the oil flow and plug the blown-out well with cement.

"It's really not a tough thing to do," said Mickey Fruge, the wellsite leader aboard the DDII for BP, which was leasing the rig when it blew and is responsible for stopping the oil.

But that doesn't mean it's easy. For starters, Fruge's team must hit a target seven inches across, or roughly the size of a salad plate, about three miles below the ocean surface. If the DDII or its sister rig DDIII fail, miss or just move too slowly, oil will keep gushing into the sea. A pair of relief wells took months to stop an undersea gusher in Mexico that started in the summer of 1979.

And no one on the rig has done it before because these deep sea interventions are so rare. That includes Wendell Guidry, Transocean's drilling superintendent on the rig, who has been in an oil field for 27 years and worked his way up from a clothes washer. But he insists in his Louisiana drawl that the job is business as usual.

"We try to keep the guys focused," he said. "We're just treating this like we treat any other well that we drill."

Glancing from the rig deck, it's clear this situation is not normal.

Out in the distance, another drilling rig is siphoning off oil and natural gas from the undersea well and burning it in a multi-nozzled flare. It looks like the flames are radiating from an oversized showerhead. Other ships hose off that rig's deck to keep the heat from building.

Meanwhile, a boom attached to a drill ship called the Discoverer Enterprise flares off natural gas taken from a containment cap that is sucking up oil from the well head. The distant flames are a constant reminder that crude and gas are leaking beneath the feet of those aboard the DDII as they walk across the see-through grating on its floor.

The Enterprise sits where the Deepwater Horizon rig exploded. Some of Guidry's crew knew Transocean workers on that rig.

It's "always, always on our mind," Guidry said.

BP PLC has said a relief well should be ready by August, and the DDIII is farther along, having reached a depth of nearly 11,000 feet below the seafloor. Still, Guidry said, it's unclear which rig will hit the target first.

"Never know what will happen," he said. "You never know."

Work goes around-the-clock on the DDII, which can hold 176 people. Eight thrusters on the rig keep it precisely positioned over the well it's drilling. The ship is so large that those aboard cannot feel it move on the water most of the time — unusually still for a vessel at sea.

As its drills cut deeper into the seafloor, it lowers steel casings into the freshly drilled hole. Working through the early morning Saturday, the DDII's crew gradually hoisted 40-foot sections of 18-inch casing with a crane and screwed them together using a 5,500-pound piece of equipment that works like a ratchet.

Fruge said that stretch of casings was cemented Sunday morning and will need until Monday to firm up before work can continue.

Eric Jackson, a tourpusher, (toolpusher, I believe was meant - IAM) was leading a sweaty seven-man crew in grease-smeared helmets and coveralls who were checking and greasing an oversized cap that eventually guided the casing into position. The deck around felt slick beneath a reporter's boots.

Coast Guard Adm. Thad Allen, the top federal official in the spill response, has said construction on the relief wells remains ahead of schedule. Jackson, however, noted that setbacks are routine on a drilling rig. Hydraulic hoses can snap. Early Saturday morning, one set of tongs used to tighten the riser pipe broke down, forcing the teams to switch to a backup set.

"It's business as usual, man," Jackson said. "Everybody tells us to be, 'Hey, don't let the pressure get to you.' This is what we do for a living, man. We drill wells. It's the same as any other day."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100620/ap_on_bi_ge/us_gulf_oil_spill

What creates the enormous pressures that force the oil upward? Sure, we all know the pressure 3 miles down or even 1 mile deep are tremendous, but what about the weight of the Gulf's water aiding in the collapse of the seabed?

Now for the woo... Anyone who believes this well blowout was purposeful, for what purpose? Terraforming the waters and air to be more hospitable for lizards? or just to facilitate the ease of the eradication of millions of souls?
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Re: 'Not for public': the oil spill may be getting much worse

Postby 82_28 » Sun Jun 20, 2010 8:29 pm

Nordic wrote:Jesus christ. If I could afford it, I'd be right there helping out with that. I love birds, always have. My son has watched me save the life of two baby birds just in the last year. I've always had a strange connection or something with them. That's just godawful to see that.


Jesus ChristX2. Me too man. I enjoy saving birds more than anything in the world. Last summer I created a makeshift device to coax little hatchlings back into their nest after they had fallen out. They kept falling out. A neighbor told me that its brothers and sisters were pushing it out. I didn't give up until one of our fucking cats killed it while I wasn't watching. Ugh!

But I have told people since, when they ask me, "well, what do you want to do with your life?". I say simply "roam the world and save birds." I mean it. People laugh. But that is all I want. To save birds. Let's come up with something, Nordic. . .
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