'Not for public': the oil spill may be getting much worse

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Postby ninakat » Tue Jun 22, 2010 1:19 am

Memo to the Victims: You Yourselves Will Pay for the Crimes of the Ruling Class
Arthur Silber, June 18, 2010

As more and more people are now acknowledging -- and I think they are entirely correct and, if anything, still underestimating what will be the ultimate costs of this calamity -- the damage caused by the catastrophe in the Gulf of Mexico will most likely be felt for several decades at least. The economic costs forbid accurate projection at this point; that might not be an altogether regrettable result, for a fuller version of the truth might well be so horrifying that it would induce paralysis of both thought and action. The human costs -- the livelihoods destroyed, the families subjected to unendurable stress and most probably similarly destroyed in very large numbers, the hopes and dreams put on indefinite hold, only to be surrendered in their totality in time -- prohibit contemplation.

One aspect of the profoundly evil system that has been destroying us for over a hundred years -- and make no mistake, it is deeply evil in design, intent and effect, if by evil we designate those actions which destroy the very possibility of thriving life -- is especially awful. The authoritarian-corporatist-militarist system victimizes untold millions of individual human beings, as well as many other forms of life as we see again today, both here and abroad. That would be a momentous evil in itself, but this particular evil is unsatisfied with only this first form of destruction.

Thus, the victims are targeted a second time, and they are forced to become collaborators in their own destruction. It is crucial to understand that these two forms of destruction are not separate manifestations of separate evils. They are the consequences of the same evil, and the two forms of lingering torture and death (psychologically at a minimum, and frequently existentially as well) are part of one overall design.

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Re: 'Not for public': the oil spill may be getting much worse

Postby 82_28 » Tue Jun 22, 2010 2:07 am

When you pour more than a million gallons of toxic chemical dispersantson top of an oil spill, it doesn’t just disappear. In this case, it moves to the atmosphere, where it will travel hundreds, if not thousands of miles from the site of the BP oil spill, in the form of toxic rain.

BP’s oil spill-fighting dispersant of choice is Corexit 9500. It has been banned in Europe for good reason. Corexit 9500 is one of the most environmentally enduring, toxic chemical dispersants ever created to battle an oil spill. Add to that the millions of gallons of oil that have been burned, releasing even more toxins into the atmosphere, and you have a recipe for something much worse than acid rain.


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So glad I found this clip. Deals with chemicals, Louisiana and of course Chevy Chase. For a laugh, give it a watch.

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Re: 'Not for public': the oil spill may be getting much worse

Postby 82_28 » Tue Jun 22, 2010 2:57 am

Whatever. So that clip won't embed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJV69PX3VSg
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Re: 'Not for public': the oil spill may be getting much worse

Postby 2012 Countdown » Tue Jun 22, 2010 10:02 am

Posted: Tuesday, 22 June 2010 2:43AM

Update: Costner's machines working "fantastic"

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Jay Vise Reporting

Actor Kevin Costner fought tooth and nail to get his centrifuge devices deployed in the Gulf to battle the ever-growing oil slick.

Now that some of the machines are in place, just how are they working?

"They're doing fantastic," said John Houghtaling, Costner's chief partner in the project. "The three that we have in the deep water are now processing 600,000 gallons per day...and those are just with three machines."

Houghtaling said that two other machines have been deployed in shallower waters.

According to Houghtaling, crews are working at a fever-pace to get the remaining 27 machines ordered by BP into action in the Gulf of Mexico.

Listen to WWL's Jay Vise's interview with Houghtaling:


Houghtailing is the CEO of the company Ocean Therapies and describes the machine as a giant "Shop Vac."

When placed on a barge the centrifuge device can reportedly suck up and separate oil from water at a rate of 200 gallons per minute.

According to Houtaling, the machines cost roughly half a million dollars to build, but also require the hiring of vessels to take them out onto the water.

Though he's glad that BP finally agreed to fund the deployment of the machines, Costner told members of Congress earlier this month that he'd had a hard time getting an opportunity to try out his centrifuge for the Coast Guard.

"We would offer to take our machines out there but we couldn't get onto the spots because the Coast Guard would regulate that we couldn't get there," Costner testified.


Houghtaling said that in addition to providing clean-up duty in the gulf, deployment of even more of the devices could aid in shortening the six-month moratorium on deep-water drilling.

He said that he'd like to see the government use the machines as a safety measure to keep the deep-water drilling rigs in operation as safety procedures are reviewed.

To view an animation of how the device works, click the window below:

http://www.wwl.com/Update--Costner-s-ma ... c-/7521840
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Re: 'Not for public': the oil spill may be getting much worse

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Re: 'Not for public': the oil spill may be getting much worse

Postby ninakat » Tue Jun 22, 2010 4:26 pm

AlJazeeraEnglish — Jun 20, 2010 — Season 2010 Ep. 21 — (Rated: TV-Y) In the two months since the Deepwater Horizon explosion, millions of litres of oil have gushed out of BP's well into the water each day, slowly encroaching on the coastline. Fault Lines' Avi Lewis travels to the drill zone, and learns about the erosion in the wetlands from industry canals and pipelines, the health problems blamed on contaminated air and water from petrochemical refineries.

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Re: 'Not for public': the oil spill may be getting much worse

Postby ninakat » Tue Jun 22, 2010 4:59 pm

The Monsanto - Nalco (Corexit) Connection -- Director & CFO of both!
Submitted by blakmira on Thu, 06/17/2010 - 13:43

The plot thickens.. the Money Trail grows -- Carl Casale is both Director of Nalco *and* EVP & CFO of Monsanto!

Are you surprised that the same man who is EVP and CFO of the evil corporate giant Monsanto -- the greatest threat to nature and life as we know it -- is also the Director of Nalco, the maker of the toxic, carcinogenic chemical Corexit??

Deliberately destroying the food chain of all sealife on the Gulf Coast and inland crops with acid rain, this oil "spill" could be the best thing that's happened for Monsanto...making us dependent upon their lab-grown GMO foods.

Here's Casale's "resume":

Mr. Carl M. Casale has served as Director of Nalco Holding Company since October 2008. Mr. Casale is Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer for Monsanto Company, a post he has held since September 2009.

Prior to that he was Executive Vice President, Strategy and Operations for Monsanto from 2007 to 2009 and Executive Vice President, North America and Latin America North for Monsanto from 2003 to 2007 and Vice President, North America from 2000 to 2003. He began his career with Monsanto as a sales representative in 1984. Mr. Casale has a B.S. degree in agricultural economics from Oregon State University and an Executive M.B.A. from Washington University in St. Louis. Mr. Casale possesses knowledge and experience in finance, international operations, strategic planning and sales, among other skills, that strengthen the Board’s collective qualifications, skills, and experience.

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Re: 'Not for public': the oil spill may be getting much worse

Postby 2012 Countdown » Tue Jun 22, 2010 8:04 pm

ninakat wrote:AlJazeeraEnglish — Jun 20, 2010 — Season 2010 Ep. 21 — (Rated: TV-Y) In the two months since the Deepwater Horizon explosion, millions of litres of oil have gushed out of BP's well into the water each day, slowly encroaching on the coastline. Fault Lines' Avi Lewis travels to the drill zone, and learns about the erosion in the wetlands from industry canals and pipelines, the health problems blamed on contaminated air and water from petrochemical refineries.




Thank both you and Jeff for posting. This is a great little segment. The crusty shrimper could be my cousin. A few weeks back, I recall seeing a national broadcast interview with someone down here with a thick cajun accent. Although he was speaking in English, and I understood every word he said, they ran subtitles. Thought it was funny.
Loved the wrap-up... "another day of progress"
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Re: 'Not for public': the oil spill may be getting much worse

Postby smiths » Tue Jun 22, 2010 8:48 pm

it is now clear that the media story for the disaster is that BP greed overruled good judgement on how to drill the macondo well,
so that in itself should at least cause us to question this version

now this comes from WM so take it how you want to, but given thatt BP is the chief oil supplier to the pentagon, and given the ships lining up near Iran and all the recent shenanigans i think its worth considering that the 'rush' on this well was geopoloitical rather than greed related

President Obama and Secretary of Interior Ken Salazar, Secretary of Energy Steven Chu, and Defense Secretary Robert Gates were informed that BP would drill an unprecedented 35,000 feet well bore at the Macondo site off the coast of Louisiana.
According to the Wayne Madsen Report (WMR) sources within the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers and the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), the Pentagon and Interior and Energy Departments told the Obama Administration that the newly-discovered estimated 3-4 billion barrels of oil in the Gulf of Mexico would cover America's oil needs for up to eight months if there was a military attack on Iran that resulted in the bottling up of the Strait of Hormuz to oil tanker traffic, resulting in a cut-off of oil to the United States from the Persian Gulf. Obama, Salazar, Chu, and Gates green-lighted the risky Macondo drilling operation from the outset, according to WMR's government sources.

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Re: 'Not for public': the oil spill may be getting much worse

Postby 2012 Countdown » Tue Jun 22, 2010 9:03 pm

re:Madsen

Well I suppose I should be relieved in that the alleged war with Iran would have to be postponed for a while, but the downside sure is a bitch.
The theory could be plausible, if not for the massive, blatant absence of quality control, along with shortcuts and faulty construction, and opting for cheaper methods and materials.
Reckless disregard and corruption is what I am still going with. to drill this safely would not have cost that much more, nor much more time to do correctly -especially if this was 'mission critical' in preparation for war. If it was/is so vital, surely one would be sure to get this done right.
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Re: 'Not for public': the oil spill may be getting much worse

Postby smiths » Tue Jun 22, 2010 10:36 pm

2012 countdown,
although a massive, blatant absence of quality control, shortcuts and faulty construction could be an explanation for a catastrophe in of itself, it can also demonstratively be a side effect - a bonus' from some points of view - of a larger movement or plan,
there is no incentive in the capitalist system to do things to genuine best practice,
the same banks and individuals are able to profit from the success or the failure of these extreme industrial and banking structures,
when the predictable result of this systemic looting, destroying, corrupting and incompetent process is tragedies that should rightly break our hearts,
it doesnt mean that it cannot be part of something more which we should be looking out for
the question is why, who, why, what, why, when, why and why again?
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Re: 'Not for public': the oil spill may be getting much worse

Postby 2012 Countdown » Tue Jun 22, 2010 11:21 pm

I am totally open to anything, really. I give a fair consideration to anything, and wouldn't put anything past 'them'.
I just think how i would prepare for war though. I was a boy scout too. Securing resources I agree would be a top priority. Its the shoddy method by which this was attempted that stops me on this theory. I would make sure the well was done top notch, for as the article suggests, supply from elsewhere may be cut off for months.

So I guess they cut themselves off at the knees. No oil, no war.
Silly gooses, now look at this mess you made. Clean all this up and go to your room -to plot again.

Just so you know, I think I am still open to any larger possibilities...


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We need to recognize that this is no longer something in the future, something that might happen or might not happen. We are now in the midst of the switchover process. The toxic-bubble- collapse- bailout project was a clear sign that the switchover process has now been launched. With that one move, essential sovereignty was transferred from national governments to the financial elite. Greece is the poster child of this transfer, but it applies throughout the West. The Greece 'crisis' was a psy-op event aimed at giving other governments an excuse to tighten down austerity. It was like whipping one slave in front of the rest, so the rest will behave.

Once we recognize that the switchover process has begun, then we have no reason to expect it will proceed piecemeal, or at a slow pace, like an unfolding TV series. Instead we are seeing parallel assaults from different directions. And in any assault, it usually makes sense to get it over as quickly as possible, as we saw with the 9/11 assault on the Constitution.

Daniel Estulin and his friends tell us, from the very latest Bilderberger meeting, that the folks there are in a bit of disarray, and they're worried about people losing their fear, and beginning to resist. We need to remember however that Bilderberger is not a decision-making group. It is a place where filtered elite plans are discussed with secondary puppet elites... politicians, media moguls, and the like.

Bringing Bilderberger into line is simply one of the threads of the switchover process, not yet completed. Meanwhile, other threads of the switchover process can continue in parallel. The Soros article (below) gives us, more or less, a status report on the progress toward world government and global currency control. The attack on Iran will be the stepping stone toward a major nuclear war. Meanwhile, apart from the ongoing mega-genocide in Africa, what progress are they making toward depopulation? It is in this context that we need to consider the events in the Gulf.

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Although, things would have to deteriorate much more for this little scenario to play out. Always willing to look at anything though.
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Re: 'Not for public': the oil spill may be getting much worse

Postby Jeff » Wed Jun 23, 2010 12:39 am

Let's try to keep Henry Makow out of this. Not a good history here.


Methane in Gulf 'astonishingly high'-US scientist

By Julie Steenhuysen

June 22 (Reuters) - As much as 1 million times the normal level of methane gas has been found in some regions near the Gulf of Mexico oil spill, enough to potentially deplete oxygen and create a dead zone, U.S. scientists said on Tuesday.

Texas A&M University oceanography professor John Kessler, just back from a 10-day research expedition near the BP Plc (BP.L) oil spill in the gulf, says methane gas levels in some areas are "astonishingly high."

Kessler's crew took measurements of both surface and deep water within a 5-mile (8 kilometer) radius of BP's broken wellhead.

"There is an incredible amount of methane in there," Kessler told reporters in a telephone briefing.

In some areas, the crew of 12 scientists found concentrations that were 100,000 times higher than normal.

"We saw them approach a million times above background concentrations" in some areas, Kessler said.

The scientists were looking for signs that the methane gas had depleted levels of oxygen dissolved in the water needed to sustain marine life.

"At some locations, we saw depletions of up to 30 percent of oxygen based on its natural concentration in the waters. At other places, we saw no depletion of oxygen in the waters. We need to determine why that is," he told the briefing.

...

Kessler said oxygen depletions have not reached a critical level yet, but the oil is still spilling into the Gulf, now at a rate of as much as 60,000 barrels a day, according to U.S. government estimates.

"What is it going to look like two months down the road, six months down the road, two years down the road?" he asked.

...

Kessler said his team has taken those measurements, and is hoping to have an estimate soon.

"Give us about a week and we should have some preliminary numbers on that," he said.



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Re: 'Not for public': the oil spill may be getting much worse

Postby Nordic » Wed Jun 23, 2010 1:23 am

WTF, zerohedge is now posting Wayne Madsen columns as "guests"?

Wow, that's pretty shocking.
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Re: 'Not for public': the oil spill may be getting much worse

Postby 2012 Countdown » Wed Jun 23, 2010 8:17 am

Sorry about that Jeff. No offense intended. If he is offensive, I can assure you I posted this out of ignorance. I just happened across it. No need to tell me why, as I reposted it simply for the playing card illustration it contained (which I found interesting), and unoriginal article's contents -as example that I am not an ostrich, and I freely admit to my ignorance as to the 'who's who' in antagonism and disinfo..
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