Abolish the White Race - By Any Means Necessary

[seemslikeadream]

it is the way it is here...it has been this way for a very long time...it will never change ....we all just live with each other the best we can and hopefully not annoy Womby too much

[semper occultus]

you can bet your ass i wont go pages on this

.....that would indeed be very much appreciated....

.....a pity if 2 quite interesting articles were slid right-off the current page by recriminatory posts that are a complete turn-off to the casual reader....

( which may be exactly what is about to happen when I press submit....now... )

..ETA...damn...beaten to it...

[seemslikeadream]

god it's been 7 years since this OP was posted ya think all us whites would be dead by now

[backtoiam]

This whole race gender thing is driven by the elite mainstream bullshit machine. The joke is on us. The mainstream illusion is a huge bubble of bullshit. We all know that. Well, actually, some here might not be getting it but...

The horse power in intelligence at RI as wayyyy above average to say the least. The diversity of knowledge that is held in the minds of RI participants is so vast that a library could not contain it.

RI has the capacity to be a power house of goodness outside the mainstream narrative if it could be unleashed and I have read what Jeff wrote. That is the sort of horse power i'm talking about. All this damn quibbling about what peoples skin color is, what their genitals are, is just so damn trivial in the big scheme of things. Is that unimportant? No. It is important. Very important.

But come on yall. Pump up the volume. Surely we pull that mental horse power into some directions that are worthy of what Jeff started here.

[seemslikeadream]

just post some good stuff ...try and ignore ....that's all you can do..I've been trying to ignore for 8 years now ...sometimes it works sometimes it just gets the best of me..but do your part to make this place diverse ...that's what is needed

[Sounder]

Thanks for the brain food semper.

So their sense of dismay is not just because of Goodhart’s apostate views on uncontrolled immigration and its consequences for social democracy, but also, and as importantly, what he might reveal about them and their motivations; mainly their fear of being found out.

The Intelligentsia have never been friends of the working classes. They have been found out, yet they keep screaming that I am the insensitive racist.

I do wonder what the globalists among us have to say to counter these arguments, oh that's right, nothing, I feel a flood of copy-pasta coming on.

[American Dream]

"Let’s start with the “outside agitator” as a white northerner, anarchist or communist, before we get to the question of erasing rebellious white subjects. From the early days of chattel slavery, up until today, the outside agitator theory supports the white supremacist narrative that black and brown people are too ignorant or lazy to rebel on their own. Even in the distinctly Black rebellion in 1868 in Ogeechee, where the battle cry was “No white man should live between the two Ogeechee [rivers]”, plantation owners were trying to say it was radical labor activists from up North in collusion with the Governor who started these rebellions. We have seen the various ways that the white “outside agitator” myth was used by the police and their media spokespeople to inflame internal conflicts and delegitimize Black armed rebellion from Ferguson to Baltimore in the last year. It’s not only absurd, it’s racist and directly reifies the colonial notion that Black people were providentially ordained into slavery. When you do this research and you really break down what’s going on when people employ these narratives you realize that this isn’t just propaganda to delegitimize armed self-defense, arson, and riots, but it also strives to create the notion that all white people in these revolts are either cops, infiltrators, or outsiders that have no genuine reason to be angry. That then makes developing any kind of actual affinity on the ground – even if it’s just some practical shit like washing someone’s eyes from tear gas – all the more difficult.

So on the one hand you have the white participant in revolt as that of both an outsider and an agitator, which reaffirms the idea that white people and people of color are all somehow completely removed from each other’s day-to-day lives, and that when revolts happen, white folks only show up to stir up these normally peaceful, unmoved black people. On the other hand you have the disappearance of white folks from certain uprisings because to imagine them as co-conspirators would destabilize white supremacy. These people have often been called “race traitors” or “white trash” or have actually been re-written as black or brown by the media/state to erase the evidence that there was cross-racial, class- and regional-based solidarity from the first day the ships arrived in Jamestown to a few weeks ago in Baltimore.

However, the other problem is that a lot of white people today want credit for being good “allies” in these rebellions. A lot of times we get involved in shit and we start to make it about class instead of race, or about how we’re all against the police and don’t really wanna talk about the systematic terror, torture, and genocide of Black people."

— Saralee Stafford and Neal Shirley, authors of Dixie Be Damned: 300 Years of Insurrection in the American South

[Searcher08]

Thanks for the brain food semper.

So their sense of dismay is not just because of Goodhart’s apostate views on uncontrolled immigration and its consequences for social democracy, but also, and as importantly, what he might reveal about them and their motivations; mainly their fear of being found out.

The Intelligentsia have never been friends of the working classes. They have been found out, yet they keep screaming that I am the insensitive racist.

I do wonder what the globalists among us have to say to counter these arguments, oh that's right, nothing, I feel a flood of copy-pasta coming on.

Nothing will be said, because nothing much can be said except to...
repeat the message or
fill it with even more noise or
have it be said from yet another group who have decided they are oppressed by someone and are entitled to something or
to assert that the very thinking of a contrary position to theirs indicates a nascent hate-crime.

[NeonLX]

Honky by birth
My daughter is Indian (of the South Asian variety)
My girlfriend is Native American
That is all.

[American Dream]

http://idavox.com/index.php/2016/02/08/ ... day-rally/

Anti-Refugee Militia Groups Overwhelmed by Opposition at Saturday Rally

February 8, 2016


Antifa face off with militia groups protesting Syrian refugees on Saturday in Reading, PA.

READING, PA – The plan was to keep organizing for a rally against Syrian refugees under the radar and away from the prying eyes of those who may come out to oppose the rally. Unfortunately for the organizers, that plan fell apart and a paltry number of persons associated with militia groups were met by over 100 counter-demonstrators as they stood outside the Berks County Courthouse on Saturday.

According to the Reading Eagle, the anti-refugee demonstrators, calling themselves America First and Concerned Pennsylvanians for Constitutional Liberty were met by a large contingent of Antifa and local persons of color representing Antifa from around the state as well as the Reading-based Make the Road Pennsylvania. The rally was promoted via a secret Facebook event page, but information still managed to get to the opposing groups, who played music for about an hour and shouted out chants such as “Islam is not your enemy” and “Say it loud. Say it clear.

Republican committeeman and America First member John Rentschler told the Reading Eagle the group is committed to keeping the United States safe, while Dan Gray, also of America First cited his Jewish faith and his family’s own history in the Holocaust to bolster his point. “A true refugee is someone who is in fear of people because of his belief,” he said. “We must insist that refugees are vetted.”

Ironically, the reason why the militia groups particularly in Pennsylvania were such a concern to those opposing them was because of their well-documented association with local neo-Nazi groups over the past two decades. Rentschler and Gray were first noticed when they spoke at an anti-refugee rally at the Pennsylvania State House in Harrisburg last November, which was attended by the neo-Nazi Keystone State “Skinheads” (KSS). It was among the many things that fueled opposition to their subsequent rally outside a church supporting the refugees that brought out 200 counter demonstrators to oppose the 40 anti-refugee protesters. There were no persons that were identified with neo-Nazi groups at the Reading or Lancaster rallies, however, and according to antifa that spoke with One People’s Project, they were told by the anti-refugee organizers that they had asked KSS not to participate because of the public scrutiny.

Dan Gray later expressed his displeasure over the lack of numbers for his side in a Facebook post saying that while he called Antifa “cowards” for wearing masks, he said he still respected them for their heart:

“Today, as usual, some couldn’t come, for legitimate reasons,” he wrote. “Health, family, jobs, transportation, will always stop some from time to time. But MORE stayed home because they don’t care enough to FIGHT. More than a few failed out of FEAR. And so we were outnumbered, again.

“The other side showed up, he continued. “The ones you jeer at here on Social Media. The ones you belittle, berate, and make bold boastful battle with. THEY showed up. The avowed illegals came, with drums and guitar, Risking deportation, even in a Sanctuary City, they came. Singing Spanish songs, chanting, drowning us out. And marched away satisfied..”

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When Race Burns Class:

Settlers Revisited

An Interview with J. Sakai



EC: How do you view the rise of the Far Right, specifically the American Far Right?

JS: We can see that neo-fascism is a growing factor in u.s.politics. Still marginal, but already more significant than,say, white Marxism. The Far Right is politically strong enough, represents so much mass sentiment, that its momentary electoral champion – Pat Buchanan – has become the hero of some trade unions and the closet ally of white socialists and anarchists in the anti-WTO campaign. [for more details on the right wooing the left in the anti-globalization movement, see My Enemy's Enemy, published by Anti-Fascist Forum] And again, to understand this dynamic we have to lay aside 1930s' political formulas and take the social reality in a fresh way. Were Timmy McVeigh and his comrades "tools of the ruling class" when they dusted the federal building in Oklahoma City? Does finance capital & the big bourgeoisie pull the strings behind the Militia Movement as it spreads doctrines of tax resistance, seizing federal land, and targeting the imperialist state as white man's main enemy? You'd have to be nuttier than they are to believe that! The old "pawns of the ruling class" 1930s analysis of European fascism do not apply right here in the old way.

This is too big a subject for me to go into fully here, but the broad outline is obvious. The Far Right is growing steadily, moving on the offensive, as white settler society itself is fragmenting and being forced to gradually give up its old national form under immense pressures from the new global imperialism. In this fragmentation, some sectors and classes of the old settler society are now more open to neo-fascism in their desperate search for a new civilization for themselves in which they will still be masters of the land.

While in Europe the much larger fascist current has manifested itself by violent attacks on immigrant labor and on defending the concept of the old nations, in the u.s. the New Right is primarily concerned with attacking the u.s. state itself, using both armed struggle and mass political organizing, and founding new self-governing cults and societies . That is to say, it is an emerging revolutionary movement, albeit still a small one. The Left has little daily contact with the fascists, because they are in different classes and live in different geographic areas and are in diverging societies.

In the best guerrilla fashion, this New Right is by-passing the major cities, with their massive Third World populations, corporate economies and large state machinery. Rather, their focus is on winning de facto power inside the marginalized white male populations. Romeoville, Illinois rather than Chicago. Prisons rather than Ivy League colleges. Theirs is a re-statement of the early settler vision, of setting up independent outposts of a racially-cleansed culture, on re-pioneered white land. With heavily armed bands of once again masculine white men pushing out the mercenary u.s. authorities. For a period of time we could see both white fascist Right and the white Left – working in geographically separate cultures on this vast continent – grow without impinging on or really clashing with each other. Both mostly white "Free Mumia" campaigns in the old major cities and the quiet ouster of federal agents from Western lands.

The old Right of the 1920s Klan or 1960s White Citizens Councils or Minutemen or Jewish Defense League were patriotic & pro-u.s.a. They saw themselves as "saving" the traditional America, and often cooperated closely with and were led by local business, police, the f.b.i. and government officials.

In a major reversal, the new Far Right is radically anti-American. It sees their white male settler empire of "America from sea to shining sea" as really lost. Its cities taken over by the sub-human millions of the "mud races", its economy drained by the "Jew banks" and the alien corporate economy, its culture polluted by hostile genetic contaminants, its once-proud citizens increasingly without rights and dictated to by the shell of the former "u.s.government" which is now the "Zionist Occupation Government". And while the masses of conservative euro-amerikans are not yet fascist, neither are they anti-fascists.

And the hard-core of the new Far Right is very fascist, since neo-fascism represents the basic ideology that the aspiring white "lumpenbourgeoisie" need to restart and reorganize a part of settler society as their own private fiefdom. The u.s. constitution just doesn't work for them. Just as Trudjman and Milosevic, who once were Yugoslavian patriots and "socialists" when that met their class interests, turned to neo fascism and genocidal ethnic nationalism to be "born again" as the local "lumpenbourgeoisie" under global imperialism.

Take the David Duke phenomenon. As we all know, in 1990 Louisiana state representative David Duke ran for the u.s. senate. In losing Duke still won a large majority of the statewide white vote, some 57%. His highest percentage of votes came from white workers with incomes under $15,000 a year. This despite the fact that Duke was and is notorious not "merely" as a racist, but as someone who has spent his entire adult life as a very public neo-nazi organizer, propagandist, and leader. He was opposed by both Republican and Democratic Parties, and the churches, civic and business organizations. The entire media machine kept exposing and criticizing him, repeatedly running old photos of him in his American Nazi Party uniform. Yet, if it wasn't for the Black voters, David Duke – naked fascist agenda and all – would have emerged as one of the most powerful politicians and in the u.s. senate. You can see why granting Black people the vote was so important to u.s. imperialism – and why the white masses were carefully never given a chance to directly vote on it!

For sure, the growth of fascism here has many class contradictions of its own, and their Aryan future is far from certain. But it is significant that while the masses of euro-amerikans are not fascists, being neo-fascist is quietly acceptable to many of them. Today the radical future is dividing into those who – whatever their strategies and ideologies – recognize that fact, and those who still wish to avoid facing it.

[American Dream]

THE WHITE GENOCIDE HUSTLE: THE AMERICAN FREEDOM PARTY RUNS BOB WHITAKER FOR PRESIDENT

FEBRUARY 10, 2016

The American Freedom Party made recent news rounds by funding robocalls in Iowa urging Republican primary voters to support Donald Trump. The calls, many of which were voiced by American Renaissance’s Jared Taylor, mentioned that the U.S. should be inviting in “white people” rather than Syrian refugees. The party, which was formed as a political extension of the Golden State Skinheads, has shifted slightly as we head into the actual primary elections. Now they are running their own candidate for office on a third-party bid. This is not new for them as they ran former filmmaker Merlin Miller back in 2012, when they were going by the American Third Position Party. Miller, who did not even know what “Third Position” actually meant, regularly embarrassed himself in interviews, having a difficult time keeping up with basic political questions. He eventually went on international media outlets and declared that Israel was responsible for 9/11, which made the A3P even less relevant than it already was.

Now the AFP is attempting to provide a nationalist alternative to the two main parties by running Bob Whitaker, someone who is relatively well known for those who have been involved in far-right American politics over the decades. Whitaker’s primary campaign tagline, similar to Trump’s “Make America Great Again,” is “Diversity is a Code Word for White Genocide.” Though this is not the most catchy line for a bumper sticker, the AFP seems to want to get those who will be upset with Trump’s eventual loss to Ted Cruz and want to double down on their anti-immigrant racism.

Whitaker has had a career that has defined what it means to “Walk the Line” between Beltway conservative politics and the racist far-right. These edges have been known for years by the institutions he has worked with, so it is not exactly a “well kept secret” to those who knew him. At the University of Virginia he was denied his PhD in Economics after his work came in with questionable themes. He went on to work at the National Review with what was later called an effort to turn former Barry Goldwater supporters into Ronald Reagan Republicans. He was an early Reagan appointee, though only dealt with minor things like staffing clearances. He eventually went off the deep end, descending into the world of paranoid racial conspiracy theories.

His tagline may seem a little strange, except for the fact it is what he is known for best today. Called “the Mantra,” the tagline is a shorter version of his prose passage about diversity that is often repeated at length by fellow white nationalists, similar to David Lane’s “14 Words.”

The Mantra reads:

ASIA FOR THE ASIANS, AFRICA FOR THE AFRICANS, WHITE COUNTRIES FOR EVERYBODY!Everybody says there is this RACE problem. Everybody says this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries.

The Netherlands and Belgium are just as crowded as Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.

Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.

What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries?

How long would it take anyone to realize I’m not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem?

And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and what kind of psycho black man wouldn’t object to this?

But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the white race, Liberals and respectable conservatives agree that I am a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.(SIC)

They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white.

Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.

Continues at: http://antifascistnews.net/2016/02/10/t ... president/

[kool maudit]

While I am aware of the second-gen definitions of racism and "whiteness" that define them respectively as "the system of European supremacy" and "the top post in that unjust hierarchy", the Civil Rights area and its aftermath made most of its progress by defining these terms as "judging someone according to the visible signs of their ancestry" and "the quality of having European features".

It was the great triumph of that era that these things became viewed as indecent and arbitrary among most people, but of course one of the problems with these "level playing field" definitions was that they allowed Europeans and European descendents to complain about prejudices levelled in their direction. That's why they changed it.

This thread is an attempt to employ the second-gen definition of "whiteness" as cover for expressions of contempt or opprobrium toward people of European descent (as you can say things like "we just mean that the SYSTEM needs to be abolished" while using sentences that SOUND like calls for genocide).

It's dishonest and shameful. To go along with it as a European is to lack self-respect. I am aware that this likely means that I will be viewed as one of the shadowy, "far-right" stalking-horses whose presence justifies your posting style. I don't care. If the board's administrators find my posts to be hateful or bigoted in this fashion, they can ban me. They'd be wrong, but it's their decision.

But to complain about racism while encouraging this thread is sleazy.

[semper occultus]

...it all seems a bit "let's wipe Israel off the map"...

( hey - figure of speech....nothing to do with our secret caves full of nuclear missiles....

( which we haven't got anyway ) )

[Joe Hillshoist]

While I am aware of the second-gen definitions of racism and "whiteness" that define them respectively as "the system of European supremacy" and "the top post in that unjust hierarchy", the Civil Rights area and its aftermath made most of its progress by defining these terms as "judging someone according to the visible signs of their ancestry" and "the quality of having European features".

It was the great triumph of that era that these things became viewed as indecent and arbitrary among most people, but of course one of the problems with these "level playing field" definitions was that they allowed Europeans and European descendents to complain about prejudices levelled in their direction. That's why they changed it.

This thread is an attempt to employ the second-gen definition of "whiteness" as cover for expressions of contempt or opprobrium toward people of European descent (as you can say things like "we just mean that the SYSTEM needs to be abolished" while using sentences that SOUND like calls for genocide).

It's dishonest and shameful. To go along with it as a European is to lack self-respect. I am aware that this likely means that I will be viewed as one of the shadowy, "far-right" stalking-horses whose presence justifies your posting style. I don't care. If the board's administrators find my posts to be hateful or bigoted in this fashion, they can ban me. They'd be wrong, but it's their decision.

But to complain about racism while encouraging this thread is sleazy.

There is no white race ffs.

[jakell]

^^^A very paltry response to a fairly well thought out post. It seems you are undermining the premise of the thread though and might be looking in the wrong direction.

Here's some more words n' stuff:

Biologically speaking, there’s no such thing as race.

Like I always say, the only reason the concept of "race" even persists is all these assholes who insist on walking around with their eyes open.

Edit: I'll revise my opinions of Joel if, somehow, "biologically speaking" implies something different from, you know, scientifically speaking.

I find the simplistic dichotomy "Is race real, or a social construct?" used on both sides of the divide (ie the race deniers, and the race 'realists'). The inadequacy of a supposed dichotomy can be used to make an opponent's position look erroneous, as it does one's own, but this latter get downplayed

My answer for a while now has been " it is both real and a social construct". Enough people seem to recognise someone's race, with little to no prompting, to make it real enough.