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Postby Searcher08 » Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:14 pm

American Dream wrote:Searcher- Why do you want to try to roadblock her making a comment about Riconosciuto and Gunderson?

Don't you agree that they are very bad news?


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Postby American Dream » Fri Nov 20, 2009 7:14 pm

Hmmm....

You could just express a clear position with regards to Gunderson and Riconosciuto. It wouldn't be so hard, really...
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Postby OP ED » Fri Nov 20, 2009 9:37 pm

bleh.

perhaps you'd like to express a clear position regarding your association with Virginia McCulloch?

Rachel has already made several clear statements about her dealings and feelings with those two. I'd think you'd have remembered, considering it was at your instigation...

(you helped at least, in between demanding documentation)
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Postby American Dream » Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:49 pm

I "met" Virginia in September I believe, after Searcher posted his desertfae thread. I contacted her specifically because of the questions that came up then in regards to Gunderson, Riconosciuto and etc. And it's that sort of thing that defines my contact with her.

These months of information sharing with Virginia have made it more clear than ever that Gunderson and Riconosciuto are both cause for very serious concern.

Does anyone here disagree with this?

If so, why?


ON EDIT: My bad. I said I "met" Virginia in September. It was in April, when this all broke here. My mistake...

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Postby Percival » Fri Nov 20, 2009 11:21 pm

VM is a person of VERY high character and intelligence from what I have experienced, she was able to identify me here based on my postings almost immediately as someone she knew and had worked for and in fact had sent AD a PM about that exactly, wondering if I was who she thought I was based on my postings and inside knowledge of certain things.


It is my opinion and an opinion only that anyone who questions VMs integrity and committment to the cause of truth and justice MIGHT have an agenda of their own. Maybe not but I would be wary of them.
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Postby Percival » Fri Nov 20, 2009 11:24 pm

American Dream wrote:I "met" Virginia in September I believe, after Searcher posted his desertfae thread. I contacted her specifically because of the questions that came up then in regards to Gunderson, Riconosciuto and etc. And it's that sort of thing that defines my contact with her.

These months of information sharing with Virginia have made it more clear than ever that Gunderson and Riconosciuto are both cause for very serious concern.

Does anyone here disagree with this?

If so, why?


I do not disagree with it and in my own professional capacity I can attest there is some truth to the above, but that is all I care to say at this point on a public forum as I do not wish to further expose my identity and saying anything further would do exactly that. I am no longer a young man on the war path, I have loved ones I must consider now.
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Postby OP ED » Sat Nov 21, 2009 12:19 am

It is my opinion and an opinion only that anyone who questions VMs integrity and committment to the cause of truth and justice MIGHT have an agenda of their own.


indeed. and i do.

at present my agenda is to be suspect of anyone who seems sympathetic to certain people i personally consider suspect. i.e. Aquino, as mentioned in that other thread. i despise him. anyone who says anything even neutral about him normally find themselves on my list.

i was also annoyed by what appeared to be her clear bias towards Rachel. i got the admittedly vague impression that she was working to discredit Desertfae, who it turns out was actually real contrary to VM's innuendo also from the other thread, although that might be nothing more than an unprofessional rivalry of some sort that i do not understand.

your personally vouching for her, Percy, you must realize, doesn't mean a damned thing to me. sorry.

this thread, however, is kinda disgusting, and AD amazes me in that he seems to think that someone would wish to willingly leave a statement in what has all the characteristics of an attack thread.
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Postby Joe Hillshoist » Sat Nov 21, 2009 12:57 am

at present my agenda is to be suspect of anyone who seems sympathetic to certain people i personally consider suspect. i.e. Aquino, as mentioned in that other thread. i despise him. anyone who says anything even neutral about him normally find themselves on my list.


Wow. Thats really interesting. (Only to me and my understanding of OPED, and I certainly don't want to draw anyone's attention to it.)
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Postby American Dream » Sat Nov 21, 2009 1:00 am

Thank you, OP ED, for helping to focus back on the things that really matter here. For me, it was the appearance of Dr. Doogie, who appeared with guns ablazing that changed the direction things were going now.

I hope that the Jimmy Hughes case is an opportunity to achieve real Justice regarding the murders- and not just punishment for the triggerman, though that might be a beginning. I also hope that this case provides an opening to get at the much bigger set of crimes that it all connects to.

While it's hard to be sure yet what all those crimes were, I sincerely hope that much more will be revealed about what really happened, and that the Jimmy Hughes case will helps us to get much closer to the roots of the problem, and to do something significant to solve the problem.
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Postby desertfae » Sat Nov 21, 2009 1:32 am

American Dream wrote:Dr. Doogie, since you are in touch with Desert Fae would you be willing to ask her for a statement regarding this very, very important issue?

It seems reasonable to be quite concerned about what is going on in this regard...


You've got to be kidding right? After how you and others treated me, you think I OWE you something, let alone a statement. Here's your statement....
I think you've aligned yourself with VM to try to get info for her. You're a VM puppet (to use her wording).
If VM wants to ask me something, tell her to ask me herself.. you know why she won't?? Because her motives aren't good.. she gets people to play "spy" with me and try to get info out of me...
It's none of your business, or VM's or anyone else's for that matter who I talk to or don't talk to. I'm running an investigation and I don't owe you or anyone else any explanation of how I get my evidence.
Now, here's a question to VM.. .WHY are you even involved in My dad's, Fred's and Patty's murder investigation? You have nothing to do with it, all you're trying to do is interfere in it and throw out disinfo and speculations. You're not a family member, you have no reason to be involved in this at all.
Onto Dr Doogie.
Dr Doogie is what he says he is. He's actually very good at what he does.

As for the rest of you on this board, those that have been standing up for my fight for justice, I thank you for your kind words. It means a lot to me.

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Postby barracuda » Sat Nov 21, 2009 1:49 am

Wow. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
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Postby OP ED » Sat Nov 21, 2009 1:55 am

Joe Hillshoist wrote:
at present my agenda is to be suspect of anyone who seems sympathetic to certain people i personally consider suspect. i.e. Aquino, as mentioned in that other thread. i despise him. anyone who says anything even neutral about him normally find themselves on my list.


Wow. Thats really interesting. (Only to me and my understanding of OPED, and I certainly don't want to draw anyone's attention to it.)


feel free to be interested. i doubt drawing attention to it could do me any real additional harm. i have no intention of explaining myself either. my upset with mr. aquino is personal.

i like you joe, so if you would like more of an accounting, feel free to PM me and i'll consider what to tell you.
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Postby Joe Hillshoist » Sat Nov 21, 2009 2:46 am

Ahhhhhh

post went boom.
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Postby Joe Hillshoist » Sat Nov 21, 2009 2:46 am

Op Ed at some point we can talk about it sure. It wasn't really my point..

Like yeah I thought that, and then I decided to post it, I might have just pmed you about it normally.

But I wouldn't have brought it up if I didn't want people to notice cos every now and then people question your motives, and thats fair enough too.

But its a valid point on its own as well really. In the context of this little thread.

I don't trust any of these people, DM, MR, VM or pretty much anyone. As far as online personalities go I trust Jeff and a few other people to be on the level, but in all this murky stuff. But whats it matter, I'm on another continent?

IT only matters cos I like RI, its a good community, as far as online communities go. But this story is quite serious.

Here we have Rachel, whose story so far checks out completely. How many other people on conspiracy websites do you know who are involved in this sort of legal process?

So what do we do?

Rachel?

I mean, its all well for me to talk, being on the other side of the Pacific, but as acommunity what does this mean. OK from my perpective this case involves two things, indigenous issues, and wakenhut, that are both kind of close to me.

Wakenhut still AFAIK are the parent company of whatever giuse ACM is wearing. That may have changed recently and I have missed it, cos for long periods this year I have been semi oblivious to any media...

Anything that makes them look bad is good in my books.

And I like this community, but its in its interests that this all works properly. Its important given the contest of this case that its open and as transparent as possible, on every level. and its important that we all keep that in mmind, especially when it comes to the actual legal proceedings themselves.

Especially cos its so important to this particular member of our community.

If I was in her position I'd well I dunno what i'd think. But I'd appreciate a fair go and some support.

I don't know much more about this than anyone, tho its been one of those stories, I first heard it before I met my wife.

I've got a few other thoughts about all regarding citizen journalism and all that, esp in the context of today, now. But anyway...

Rachel if you want to contact me about this to ask me any questions or my actual opinion feel free. It must be weird to be talked about on a forum like this in your circumstances, it'd freak me out a bit. I certainly wouldn't trust anyone at face value in your position. And I wouldn't put much stock on what people say on the internet either, except of course with people who will interact with you in the real world.

(SO AD give her a break.)
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Postby Joe Hillshoist » Sat Nov 21, 2009 2:47 am

No it didn't :)
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