Tunisia's color-coded regime change: Bogus, fake, or..??

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Postby JackRiddler » Sun Jan 30, 2011 2:06 pm

Searcher08 wrote:I think that the Tarpley arguments are very out of touch, an analysis that makes sense in it's own terms, but which is suffering from a lack of adequate sampling of reality and hamstrung by an inadequate refresh rate with actual real world events.


What, he's calling Egypt another Brzezinski job? He was doing that shit already 33 years ago with Iran!

With a 'personal development' hat on, they are also very un-empowering arguments. They are not wishing the people of Egypt well, they ignore reality, they do not suggest alternatives for a way forward and provide no impetus forward for dare I saw, any Egyptian person of goodwill who might be reading them. They are a call to inaction, a rallying whose emblem is the sofa and the mouse. For me, they speak of someone who no longer thinks the world 'allows' dreams to happen.


That's it exactly.

Don't support Wikileaks and don't think you can do it yourself, it's all CIA.

Don't support Egypt and don't think you can do the same in your country, it's all CIA.

Don't join any party, don't try to influence any politician, don't bother with any media, don't even start a blog because look who's hosting it, it's. all. CIA!!!

Suddenly Da Wolf is looking like a sophisticated psyop after all. Well, without the sophistication, in his case.

But seriously, we understand the mechanism much better when O'Reilly and Beck preemptively and promiscuously call everyone else Nazis and fascists.

On the other hand, entertaining for a moment that the CIA is behind the CIA behind everything talk, it's probably a good sign, if that's the last card they've got left. See?

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Re: Tunisia's color-coded regime change: Bogus, fake, or..??

Postby Gnomad » Sun Jan 30, 2011 2:10 pm

The CIA can kiss my balls.
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Re: Tunisia's color-coded regime change: Bogus, fake, or..??

Postby barracuda » Sun Jan 30, 2011 2:31 pm

JackRiddler wrote:What, he's calling Egypt another Brzezinski job? He was doing that shit already 33 years ago with Iran!


Tarpley seems massively out of touch. His headline? "US-UK Destabilization Rampage Targets Egypt; Young Nihilists in Orgy of Vandalism and Arson"

Young nihilists?



Regarding Twitter and Facebook as channels for protest information, he says (3:20) "It appeals to this sort of anarchist, street-fighting mentality." What a buffoon. He tosses about references to "Langley this and that" as if he knows what the CIA is thinking.

Is anyone really taking this thread seriously? I find the whole premise insulting. It would be mildly amusing in a way, were it not for all the dead and the obvious urgency of the moment.

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Re: Tunisia's color-coded regime change: Bogus, fake, or..??

Postby tazmic » Sun Jan 30, 2011 3:11 pm

Is anyone really taking this thread seriously?

Jack appears to be.
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Re: Tunisia's color-coded regime change: Bogus, fake, or..??

Postby JackRiddler » Sun Jan 30, 2011 3:29 pm

tazmic wrote:
Is anyone really taking this thread seriously?

Jack appears to be.


Which is to say you and lappykrill are not. And yes, I was. But then I joined...

the
Young Nihilists!


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Re: Tunisia's color-coded regime change: Bogus, fake, or..??

Postby vanlose kid » Sun Jan 30, 2011 3:33 pm

[sarc]

JackRiddler wrote:...

On the other hand, entertaining for a moment that the CIA is behind the CIA behind everything talk, it's probably a good sign, if that's the last card they've got left. See?

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well, the CIA not always behind the CIA. they're sometimes in front of and beside and against and around and above and below the CIA.

i mean why would the CIA not coup the CIA in order to prove how strong and weak the CIA is in order to strengthen the CIA?

it's all part of the "hegelian dialectic". – get with the program.

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Re: Tunisia's color-coded regime change: Bogus, fake, or..??

Postby lupercal » Sun Jan 30, 2011 3:36 pm

tazmic wrote:
Is anyone really taking this thread seriously?

Jack appears to be.
Well played. :thumbsup

barracuda wrote:He tosses about references to "Langley this and that" as if he knows what the CIA is thinking.

Are you trying to say that you know what the CIA is thinking, and that it's not what Tarpley thinks it thinking?

Incidentally do any great defenders of the latest failed Twitbook revolution deny that the failed 2009 Twitter "revolution" in Iran was a botched CIA job?

Does anyone deny that Tunisia and Yemen have already gotten color designations?

Does anyone that deny that agents provocateurs in the Egyptian security personnel are leading the mayhem, exactly as they've done in otherwise peaceful demonstration I myself have participated in, exactly as they did in Iran in 1953, as reported in detail in the CIA after-action report at the link below?
APPENDIX B - 'London' Draft of the TPAJAX [Ajax] Operational Plan: http://cryptome.org/iran-cia/b.pdf

from: CIA Clandestine Service History, "Overthrow of Premier Mossadeq of Iran, November 1952-August 1953," March 1954, by Dr. Donald Wilber, http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB28/#documents

So please explain by what pretzel logic you've convinced yourself that it serves Mubarak's interests to organize a nearly successful coup against himself, because I'm not following. If you don't see the patent bogusness of this thing thing, fine, but some of us are less willing to delude ourselves in the cause of utterly depraved interference in the affairs of peaceful nations. Frankly b your TV-fueled self-righteousness is offensive. Why don't you read up on real indigenous uprisings in Latin America for example? These astroturf color revolutions are as fake as fake comes.

Moving along:
JackRiddler wrote:Suddenly Da Wolf is looking like a sophisticated psyop after all. Well, without the sophistication, in his case.

Luper's law: when Godwin's law fails, resort to the lamest of ad hominems, and when those fail, report to big red letters. :tongout
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Re: Tunisia's color-coded regime change: Bogus, fake, or..??

Postby Simulist » Sun Jan 30, 2011 3:36 pm

barracuda wrote:Tarpley seems massively out of touch.

This is true about Webster Tarpley in life, and will doubtless be true of the man in death.

In fact, it would make a fine epitaph for him, when the time comes.
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Re: Tunisia's color-coded regime change: Bogus, fake, or..??

Postby vanlose kid » Sun Jan 30, 2011 3:38 pm

JackRiddler wrote:
tazmic wrote:
Is anyone really taking this thread seriously?

Jack appears to be.


Which is to say you and lappykrill are not. And yes, I was. But then I joined...

the
Young Nihilists!


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Re: Tunisia's color-coded regime change: Bogus, fake, or..??

Postby lupercal » Sun Jan 30, 2011 3:41 pm

Luper's law, amendment 1: when Godwin's law fails, resort to the lamest of ad hominems, when those fail, report to big red letters, and when those fail, post a totally off-topic YouTube vid.
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Re: Tunisia's color-coded regime change: Bogus, fake, or..??

Postby Searcher08 » Sun Jan 30, 2011 3:50 pm

lupercal wrote:Luper's law, amendment 1: when Godwin's law fails, resort to the lamest of ad hominems, when those fail, report to big red letters, and when those fail, post a totally off-topic YouTube vid.


Amendment 2
Anyone who proposes their own law in response to the rest of the thread laughing at your arguments should spend more time watching those Youtube vids. :lol2:
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Re: Tunisia's color-coded regime change: Bogus, fake, or..??

Postby barracuda » Sun Jan 30, 2011 3:51 pm

lupercal wrote: If you don't see the patent bogusness of this thing thing, fine, but some of us are less willing to delude ourselves in the cause of utterly depraved interference in the affairs of peaceful nations.


Ah, yes, the peaceful nations.
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Re: Tunisia's color-coded regime change: Bogus, fake, or..??

Postby Simulist » Sun Jan 30, 2011 4:52 pm

barracuda wrote:Quit trolling the revolution.

Instructive for when our revolution comes: it might not be televised, but it'll probably be trolled.
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Re: Tunisia's color-coded regime change: Bogus, fake, or..??

Postby Laodicean » Sun Jan 30, 2011 5:06 pm

Heh. This thread is pure lulz.

Simulist wrote:
barracuda wrote:Quit trolling the revolution.

Instructive for when our revolution comes: it might not be televised, but it'll probably be trolled.


If there is hope... it lies in the trolls. :eeyaa
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Re: Tunisia's color-coded regime change: Bogus, fake, or..??

Postby JackRiddler » Sun Jan 30, 2011 5:10 pm

barracuda wrote:Ah, yes, the peaceful nations.


Ha, I thought you'd be linking to a table listing the many billions of dollars in military and police "aid" received by Egypt over the years as the number-two recipient of US aid.

But of course, that was before the US decided to meddle in Egyptian affairs, for the first time in history, just last week. :partyhat

(I see :duncecap is actually : partyhat. Well I mean the former.)
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