Nuclear Meltdown Watch

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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

Postby 23 » Sun Mar 13, 2011 11:01 am

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In the Japanese Fukushima nuclear power plant, an explosion occurred. The fear of a worst-case scenario is there. What is a nuclear power plant? Who are the users? It is a group that wanted to cover up several affairs.

The complex of the nuclear power plant Fukushima is one of the largest in Japan. The power plant consists of a total of six reactors, two more are planned. The Fukushima nuclear power plant 1, which was damaged in the earthquake the worst, began operation 40 years ago.

The problem was reactor according to reports from an international nuclear power plant here just before the closure. The Unit 1 of Fukushima One pile should stop in this month's operational and a database of the Nuclear Research Centre Training Centre (ICJT) in Slovenia known as the "expected date of closure," the March 2011. The construction of the reactor block began, according to the World Nuclear Association on 31 July 1967, the line of work was the U.S. company General Electric. On 17 November 1970 was the boiling water reactor to the grid.

The reactor 1 is the oldest of the current six reactor units of the Nuclear power plant Fukushima one. The blocks 2 to 6 were built from 1974 to 1979 and two more blocks are planned. Eleven kilometers south of the nuclear power plant in Fukushima Fukushima One Two with four reactors that were built by 1982 to 1987.

The operator of the severely damaged Japanese nuclear power plant is noticed in the past by various scandals. In 2002 had the then-chief Tepco and four other managers to resign because Japan largest energy producer fell under suspicion of having falsified maintenance documents. The peak forces took over with the resignation of the responsibility for the affair. Five reactors, including reactors had the accident, temporarily from the network. TEPCO is the largest private nuclear power plant operators. At that time the company had shut down all 17 reactors for safety checks. TEPCO had to admit that over the years reports of cracks in its reactors, including been covered up in the steel casing of the reactor core, were. 2006, the group was alleged to have falsified data on the cooling water temperature in the years 1985 and 1988.

It is not the first time that Japanese nuclear facilities of concern, always it came in the last 15 years in serious incidents. The resource-poor Japan to win 30 percent of its electricity from the nation's 54 nuclear power plants. For the construction of the facilities are very strict rules, also with regard to earthquake safety. Opposition to the Nuclear power in Japan, however strong.

First, the country is still traumatized by the dropping of atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki at the end of World War II, in which the destructive power of nuclear weapons was clear. But numerous accidents in which hundreds of people were exposed to radiation and killed several people, and lack of transparency of the operators, the distrust of nuclear power have fueled.

In September 1999 it came in the reprocessing plant at Tokaimura worst nuclear accident since the Chernobyl nuclear disaster. Workers steel buckets filled with an excessive amount of uranium into a processing tank, setting off from an uncontrolled nuclear chain reaction. Two people died, 600 were contaminated with radiation. Only two months previously leaked in Tsuruga 80 tons of radioactively contaminated cooling water from the primary circuit of the system. As early as 1997, a fire in Tokaimura 37 people have been contaminated with radiation. In August 2004, four workers died when the Mihama nuclear power plant, hot steam leaked - the 59th Anniversary of the atomic attack on Nagasaki.

Technical details of the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station of Tokyo Electric Power Company (TEPCO):

Commissioning: 1971

Capacity: six nuclear reactors performance. The six reactors have a rated output of more than 4000 (4.696 MW) MW of electricity. This is a good third more than the largest German plant Gundremmingen.

Type: Fukushima is a boiling-water reactor: Creating The fuel rods in the reactor pressure vessel steam that drives turbines. Unlike the pressurized water reactor there is only one water circuit, which simplifies the construction. As the engine house is directly connected with the turbines, radioactivity is passed to it. The engine house can be entered so in operation is limited. Boiling water reactors in Germany, the nuclear power stations Brunsbüttel, crumb and Phillipsburg.

Location: directly on the Pacific coast in the town of Okuma in Fukushima Prefecture Futaba district. In the prefecture, which is slightly smaller than that of Schleswig-Holstein, are about two million people.

Distance from Tokyo: about 250 kilometers (north).

Size: The plant covers 3.5 square kilometers.

Building: Power plants were built on solid rock.
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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

Postby seemslikeadream » Sun Mar 13, 2011 11:10 am

Thanks, norton.

No accidents, no danger. That's what they told us. What liars?
Mazars and Deutsche Bank could have ended this nightmare before it started.
They could still get him out of office.
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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

Postby StarmanSkye » Sun Mar 13, 2011 1:13 pm

Throughout, I find the paucity of accurate & timely information on this incident maddening -- but then that's the way of bureaucracy when confronting MAJOR problems. I can't understand why the diesel back-up generators weren't water-proof protected from the finite-risk of a tsunami, esp. given how fundamentally basic insuring adequate cooling-system operation is to preventing a serious melt-down situation. I'd like to know why the nuclear power engineers didn't bring at least one reactor back on-line to provide power to run the cooling system pumps, given they had some 8 hours of emergency battery power to make the necessary modifications. Or why they couldn't arrange the urgent supply of construction or military field generators, even by heavy-lift helos if necessary. Same with bringing-in thousands of gallons of freshwater in tanks if necessary given that the reservoir of cooling water was undoubtedly contaminated by the tsunami. Seems insuring against the contamination of cooling water also should have been the highest priority. I'd really like to know why this scenario wasn't adequately prepared for. The 'news' statement, 'We have some of the most expert people in this field in the world working for the NRC and we stand ready to assist in any way possible," commission chairman Gregory Jaczko said in a statement announcing the deployment.' doesn't give me one BIT of relief seeing how this 'regulated' industry has failed to anticipate and guard against the circumstance now unfolding. I'm baffled and bewildered. It also seems bizarre that the mounting steam-pressure in all 6 reactors wasn't diverted to run the turbine-generators instead of being allowed to build-up to dangerous levels. Seems that a seperate dedicated steam-turbine-generator system sufficient to run the cooling-pumps could and probably SHOULD have been built into each reactor as a basic stand-alone back-up alternative precisely to insure against this situation.
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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

Postby anothershamus » Sun Mar 13, 2011 1:22 pm

Don't we have some satellites that monitor radiation? I can't find any images as of yet. I remember them from Chernobyl.
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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

Postby eyeno » Sun Mar 13, 2011 1:50 pm

anothershamus wrote:Don't we have some satellites that monitor radiation? I can't find any images as of yet. I remember them from Chernobyl.




more at link, after reading the rest i'm not sure this address the question of actual radiation monitoring


The role of satellite imagery. The Chernobyl accident occurred on April 26, 1986, but the Soviet government did not acknowledge the event until April 28 and denied the extent of the disaster for some days thereafter. However, the West quickly had definite knowledge of the accident's occurrence. Radiation was detected in Sweden the day after the explosion and was soon being monitored by aircraft equipped with radiation-detection devices, including the U.S. Air Force's 55th Weather Reconnaissance Squadron. Also, Soviet communications were monitored by a geostationary U.S. military satellite called the Vortex, and both military and civilian Earth-imaging satellites were soon in position to image the site. Because of Soviet reluctance to admit observers or release videos, photographs, or accurate announcements about the accident, and because downwind radiation measurements could give no specific information about what was happening at Chernobyl, much news attention in the West focused on the satellite photographs.

The United States' KH-11 spy satellite provided high-resolution images of Chernobyl to the U.S. government on the afternoon of Tuesday, April 29th, three days after the initial explosion. The KH-11, also known as the Keyhole satellite, was the latest in the KH series of spy satellites that the U.S. began launching in the 1960s, primarily to spy on military activity in the Soviet Union. The KH-11 (whose capabilities were still secret in 1986) could resolve details on the ground down to 4–6 inches (10–15 cm) across. (It has since been replaced by the KH-12 satellite, with a resolution of 2.45 inches [6 cm].) U.S. officials were, therefore, soon as well informed about the Chernobyl accident as vertical views could make them. These images were not, however, released to the public; instead, the U.S. government's knowledge was filtered to the media through announcements.



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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

Postby eyeno » Sun Mar 13, 2011 1:57 pm

Space-based Nuclear Energy Detection

In 1959, the US started to experiment with space-based nuclear sensors, beginning with the VELA HOTEL satellites. These were originally intended to detect nuclear explosions in space, using X-ray, neutron and gamma-ray detectors. Advanced VELA satellites added electro-optical MASINT devices called bhangmeters, which could detect nuclear tests on earth by detecting a characteristic signature of nuclear bursts: a double light flash, with the flashes milliseconds apart. Using Radiofrequency MASINT sensors, satellites also could detect electromagnetic pulse (EMP) signatures from events on Earth.
Several more advanced satellites replaced the early VELAs, and the function exists today as the Integrated Operational Nuclear Detection System (IONDS), as an additional function on the MILSTAR satellites used for GPS navigation information.



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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

Postby eyeno » Sun Mar 13, 2011 2:35 pm

This site is a big supplier of potassium iodide tablets for radiation poisoning. They are actually down playing the possibility that the U.S./Canada will see effects from the reactor leaks. Long article with charts and graphs. Their basic take on the issue is that since this is a leak instead of an explosion of a bomb there should not be a big risk of it coming across the ocean.

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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

Postby justdrew » Sun Mar 13, 2011 2:42 pm

something else. Japan seems to be avoiding officially "asking the US for help" - they've "officially asked Britain" for help. but the US seems to be getting a semi-cold shoulder. Japan may be less happy with the US than is generally realized.



we still don't really know what's happened or happening with this is seems.
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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

Postby Nordic » Sun Mar 13, 2011 3:00 pm

justdrew wrote: Japan may be less happy with the US than is generally realized.
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Hm, wonder why, especially in regard to nuclear disasters .......
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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

Postby MacCruiskeen » Sun Mar 13, 2011 3:39 pm

Stan Goff:

Nuclear Power – A Really Bad Idea
11th March 2011, 09:26 am by Stan

In December 2003, when I was working as a security analyst for a nuclear power watchdog group in North Carolina, I sent an overview analysis to Counterpunch entitled Bush, Security, Energy and Money.” The piece explained how nuclear power plants are prime targets for anyone wanting to attack infrastructure to create maximum damage; and it explained how the interlocking directorate of government and the business class conspires to underplay the dangers of nuclear power.

Today (March 11, 2011), we are seeing the reports of the Richter 8.9 quake that hit Japan, and as I write this there are concerns about Tokyo Electric Power’s Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant, which has been hit with the tsunami generated by the earthquake. The concern is that without an external power source, the cooling pools for the waste fuel will quit circulating, causing the spent fuel rods to spontaneously ignite, which would release Cesium-137 and other highly radioactive isotopes into the air. Cesium-137 has a half-life of 30 years. Use your imagination or meteorological wind data to figure out what this could mean.

What we have already seen on a limited scale is another type of nuclear accident, a “core-melt.” This is when the cooling system fails in the nuclear reactor core, and the active fuel ignites. Partial core-melts are what happened in Chernobyl, Three Mile Island and the Fermi plant in Detroit. What Chernobyl taught us is that rupture of the core containment structure is a disaster that renders surrounding areas dangerously radioactive for many years - turning them into policed and administered exclusion zones.

The point is, and it’s a simple point, in addition to the danger of attack, nuclear plants are vulnerable to earthquakes, tornadoes, hurricanes, even ice storms that massively disrupt external power sources.

The follow-on point is that each plant constitutes a custodial responsibility that is longer than the longest lifespan of any known civilization. We are intentionally creating facilities based on the highly doubtful assumption that the custodial societies will be stable and continuous longer than any in history.

We watched one Gulf Coast offshore oil rig out of 3,500 – 79 of them deep water rigs like the Deepwater Horizon – destroy a substantial section of the Gulf of Mexico.

In the United States there are 170 major chemical companies, with all their plants, with 1,700 foreign affiliates; and thousands more chemical fabrication facilities worldwide.

The hubris of this civilization is not only its assumption of stability, which we are seeing break down with war creeping into the midst of a nuclear standoff (in Pakistan-India), and instability in several places operating nuclear power plants, but the assumption that this non-existent stability will continue for thousands of years.

I’ll revisit something called the precautionary principle, then leave my point there.

The precautionary principle or precautionary approach states that if an action or policy has a suspected risk of causing harm to the public or to the environment, in the absence of scientific consensus that the action or policy is harmful, the burden of proof that it is not harmful falls on those taking the action.

http://www.feralscholar.org/blog/index. ... -bad-idea/


The comments (11 so far) are also well worth reading, including this one:

DeAnander:

I always have a hard time not guffawing — or crying, I am not sure which — over the fact that nuke plants, those great big generators of “cheap” power, cannot provide their own electricity, cannot function without a larger centralised power grid, cannot be powered down safely without generator backups, etc. When the grid goes down, the generators are damaged or you can’t get diesel to run them — in other words, when there are hard times — these great big pampered contraptions threaten to have lethal tantrums with multi-decade, maybe multi-century consequences. as we have just seen.

it’s the very opposite of “robust” technology. it’s ultra-fragile *and* lethal. bad, bad, bad combo.
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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

Postby MacCruiskeen » Sun Mar 13, 2011 3:51 pm

From the MediaLens Message Board:

Posted by Rhisiart Gwilym on March 13, 2011, 10:11 am, in reply to "Updates on the Japan nuclear emergency"

Cringely on what's -- probably -- really happening. Chilling --

http://www.cringely.com/2011/03/flea-po ... -in-japan/

Note the last paragraph, and think about the implications:

"An earthquake with such loss of life is bad enough, but Japan has also just lost 20 percent of its electric generating capacity. And I’ll go out on a limb here and predict that none of those 11 reactors will re-enter service again, they’ve been so compromised."


Which means that just as the world is bracing for the impacts of the oil shut-ins (happening already in Libya; likely soon in other restive states in the oil-patch), Japan now has to source a large chunk of fuel for its electricity-generating from somewhere other than its -- mad! -- nuclear plants.

Which means more demand for natural gas and oil. ...

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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

Postby semiconscious » Sun Mar 13, 2011 4:07 pm

StarmanSkye wrote:Throughout, I find the paucity of accurate & timely information on this incident maddening -- but then that's the way of bureaucracy when confronting MAJOR problems...


yeah - the mediocrities manning this 'filter', or whatever you want to refer to it as, have, at this point, become so overly intimidated by the possibility that they might accidentally offend someone, or give something away, that they are pretty much rendered completely speechless in situations like this one. so fucking strange (particularly if you can remember back to the coverage of 3 mile island - i mean, was it that long ago?)...
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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

Postby Julia W » Sun Mar 13, 2011 4:20 pm

I've been looking for a reliable source to determine when/if to start taking the KI tablets. This may be one-
http://www.radiationnetwork.com/RadiationNetwork.htm
still trying to figure out their maps (I think just look at the colors/numbers in the circles- not the colors of the countries- that was throwing me off b/c it looked like russia/cuba was 'hot'- though Russia may be). Scroll to the bottom for Japan info link (currently, their one source in Tokyo is not responding). Seven circles in continental US right now. Don't see Alaska or Hawaii on there. Nor any other part of the world, besides the link to Japan which is not responding.

They monitor radiation levels, right now 1pm PST 3/13/11, they say above 130 cpm's would be unusual.
San Francisco is around 20-45 cpms... been watching it jump around for ten minutes, I guess there's a lot of variability.

http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/menopause/117858 This info may also be of use, as a supplement to the KI tablets.
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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

Postby justdrew » Sun Mar 13, 2011 5:13 pm

Julia W wrote:I've been looking for a reliable source to determine when/if to start taking the KI tablets. This may be one-
http://www.radiationnetwork.com/RadiationNetwork.htm
still trying to figure out their maps (I think just look at the colors/numbers in the circles- not the colors of the countries- that was throwing me off b/c it looked like russia/cuba was 'hot'- though Russia may be). Scroll to the bottom for Japan info link (currently, their one source in Tokyo is not responding). Seven circles in continental US right now. Don't see Alaska or Hawaii on there. Nor any other part of the world, besides the link to Japan which is not responding.

They monitor radiation levels, right now 1pm PST 3/13/11, they say above 130 cpm's would be unusual.
San Francisco is around 20-45 cpms... been watching it jump around for ten minutes, I guess there's a lot of variability.

http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/menopause/117858 This info may also be of use, as a supplement to the KI tablets.


DIY monitoring like that is so important. It's unfortunate that there seem to be so few participants in their network. Still, some readings are available at least :)



Update on Japan's Nuclear Power Crisis

March 13, 2011, 3:30 p.m.--The nuclear crisis in Japan took a turn for the worse as serious problems developed at a second reactor at the Fukushima Dai-Ichi nuclear facility. Earlier concerns were focused on reactor Unit 1, but now the situation at Unit 3 is becoming serious.

Officials from Tokyo Electric reported that after multiple cooling system failures, the water level in the Unit 3 reactor vessel dropped 3 meters (nearly 10 feet), uncovering approximately 90 percent of each of the fuel rods in the core.

Authorities were able to inject cooling water with a fire pump after reducing the containment pressure by a controlled venting of radioactive gas. As with Unit 1, they began pumping seawater into Unit 3. Seawater is highly corrosive and probably precludes any future use of the reactor, even if a crisis is averted.

However, Tokyo Electric recently reported that the water level in the Unit 3 reactor still remains more than 2 meters (6 feet) below the top of the fuel and company officials believe that water may be leaking from the reactor vessel. When the fuel is uncovered by water, it overheats and suffers damage. It is likely that the fuel has experienced significant damage at this point, and Japanese authorities have said they are proceeding on this assumption.

One particular concern with Unit 3 is the presence of mixed-oxide (MOX) fuel in the core. MOX is a mixture of plutonium and uranium oxides. In September 2010, plant operators loaded 32 fuel assemblies containing MOX fuel into this reactor.

That amounts to approximately 6 percent of the core. MOX fuel generally worsens the consequences of severe accidents in which a large amount of radioactive gas and aerosol is released compared with non-MOX uranium fuel because MOX fuel contains greater amounts of plutonium and other actinides, which are highly toxic.


updates blog: http://allthingsnuclear.org/tagged/Japan_nuclear

slightly earlier update:
Update at 11pm EST Saturday 3/12/11:

On Saturday March 12 at 3:36 pm local time (1:36 am EST) an explosion occurred in the Unit 1 reactor building at the Fukushima Dai-ichi nuclear plant. (Original reports suggested that the explosion took place in an adjacent turbine building, but we no longer believe this is the case.)

The explosion was very likely a hydrogen explosion. Hydrogen apparently collected somewhere in the reactor building outside of the primary containment (see diagram below). The primary containment consists of the drywell and the wetwell. The top section of the reactor building, known as the refueling bay, has walls of sheet metal, in contrast to the concrete walls of the lower part of the building. The pressure caused by a large enough explosion anywhere in the reactor building would have caused the sides of the refueling bay to blow out since that is the weakest part of the structure and is not designed to withstand high pressures.

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The hydrogen was likely produced by the hot fuel. All signs are consistent with the fact that some fuel damage has occurred at Fukushima Unit 1. Last night (U.S. time) the plant owner, TEPCO, reported that the water level had dropped below the top of the fuel by nearly six feet. This means that roughly half of each fuel rod was exposed. The fuel rods are clad in zirconium, and a few minutes after the water level dropped below the top of the fuel, the zirconium would have become hot enough to react with the surrounding steam and produce hydrogen.

The reactor core is in the reactor vessel, or pressure vessel, which is surrounded by a steel containment vessel. The steel containment vessel is surrounded by a reinforced concrete shell. The explosion took place outside of this shell. It is not clear whether the concrete shell was damaged in the explosion, but the steel containment vessel was reportedly not damaged.

The control room and many of the control and power cables for the emergency equipment used to cool the reactor core are located outside the primary containment, and the extent to which the explosion impaired these vital functions is not known at this time.

Radioactive releases and iodine tablets

Once the water level in the reactor core drops to the point where the fuel is exposed, the zirconium cladding would begin to erode and after about an hour, this would release some radioactive material—primarily noble gases, iodine-131 and cesium-137. (During normal operation, this material accumulates in the gap between the fuel and the cladding.) Some of this material could have been released by the controlled venting, which could explain the cesium detected at the plant boundary.

In addition, the primary containment in this type of reactor typically has a leak rate of about 1% of its volume per day. The secondary containment (the walls of the reactor building) is important since it keeps any leaked radioactive gas from escaping into the environment. The secondary containment is kept at a negative pressure with respect to the outside so that air inside does not leak out. The air in the building is then sent through filters to remove the radiation before it is released through the stack. With the walls blown off the top of the reactor building, this radioactive gas would instead be released directly into the air.

Thus, contrary to some news reports, the detection of cesium outside the reactor does not necessarily indicate that the primary containment has been breached.

Iodine-131 is one of the most radioactive isotopes released in a nuclear accident. It has a half-life of 8 days, meaning half of it will have decayed after 8 days, and half of that in another 8 days, etc. Therefore, it is of greatest concern in the days and weeks following an accident. It is also volatile so will spread easily. In the human body, iodine is taken up by the thyroid, and becomes concentrated there, where it can lead to thyroid cancer in later life. Children who are exposed to iodine-131 are more likely than adults to get cancer later in life. To guard against the absorption of iodione-131, people can proactively take potassium iodine pills so the thyroid becomes saturated with non-radioactive iodine and is not able to absorb any iodine-131

Cesium-137 is another radioactive isotope that has been released. It has a half-life of about 30 years, so will take more than a century to decay by a significant amount. Living organisms treat cesium-137 as if it was potassium, and it becomes part of the fluid electrolytes and is eventually excreted. Cesium-137 is passed up the food chain. It can cause many different types of cancer

What next?

The cooling systems for the Unit 1 reactor have not been operating and, as the core heats up, the water surrounding the fuel has evaporated to the point where the fuel becomes exposed to the air. Unless there is a way to replace the water the fuel will continue to heat up.

To attempt to cool the reactor, TEPCO has been pumping sea water into the reactor vessel. Since this is very corrosive and will seriously damage the reactor, this is an option of last resort and indicates that they do not expect to get the cooling systems back online.

Reports note that boric acid is being added with the sea water. Boric acid is a soluable form of boron, which is very good at absorbing neutrons. By adding this to the water around the fuel rods, it would capture neutrons that could otherwise cause additional atoms to fission. This is being added to the reactor to make sure it does not become critical again, which might happen in two ways: (1) fuel rod damage that results in fuel rod segments dropping to the bottom of the reactor vessel, where they could form a critical mass, or (2) withdrawals of the control rods caused by malfunctions of the hydraulic control units that move the control rods in and out of the core.

Recent reports state TEPCO has succeeded in filling the reactor vessel with water, which would mean the fuel rods are no longer exposed to air. But some form of cooling will still be required.
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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

Postby justdrew » Sun Mar 13, 2011 5:26 pm

so when they say they're flooding it with sea water, it seems semi unlikely that that seawater would be able to be injected into and out of the pressure vessel, given the likely large amount of damage to the piping and control mechanisms. Seems like there's little reason to doubt that significant fuel rod melting has already occurred in #1. corium is likely pooled in a debris bed at the bottom of the pressure vessel. Even if they're able to get water in and out through the pressure vessel, the Corium is likely in a configuration that is not readily cool-able. It's entirely possible that some amounts of nuclear fuel could be in configurations in which it's able to reestablish criticality.

#3 is worrying me a lot right now
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