Alex Jones Rant: DMT Elves Control Global Elites

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Re: Alex Jones Rant: DMT Elves Control Global Elites

Postby Stephen Morgan » Fri Jun 24, 2011 7:06 pm

8bitagent wrote:Aw ok, yeah Icke I guess did the Bill Cooper thing of saying "replace Jew with Illuminati, and the protocols work". Bill Cooper too was labeled a racist, but he virulently opposed the many racists
in the 90's patriot militia movement and was open about being married to a non white woman and having non white children. I saw a documentary on the life and death of Bill Cooper, and think he was largely misunderstood. Icke's message seems a bit more peaceful and trancesdent than the "guns guns guns 1776 constitutionalist dont tread on me!" tea party right wing memes of Alex Jones


Well, Icke is English. Used to work for the BBC, the Green Party and so on. Commentated on snooker, not a breeding ground for shouty aggro-enthusiasts. Two scenes from Them: Adventures with Extremists, by Jon Ronson, come to mind: Icke, splattered by a thrown custard pie thrown by "anti-racists" calmly brushing it off, and Alex Jones rushing from his house to accuse a man in the street of being a NWO agent sabotaging his phone line to stop him broadcasting the truth on his internet radio show.
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Re: Alex Jones Rant: DMT Elves Control Global Elites

Postby Peregrine » Fri Jun 24, 2011 7:10 pm

Canadian_watcher wrote:There's a video called "Awakenings" by Max Igan that I just listened to yesterday on you tube, and I don't remember a single thing in it that didn't resonate with me. It pretty much lays out a synopsis of how I wish I could explain it to people (and have them believe/follow me). Of course, the vid is about an hour long and I wish I could make it into an elevator speech. Impossible though, and that's part of the problem.


I just watched that entire set & must say, it was very well done. I will definitely be sharing it with others.
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Re: Alex Jones Rant: DMT Elves Control Global Elites

Postby wintler2 » Fri Jun 24, 2011 7:23 pm

Canadian_watcher wrote:
wintler2 wrote:
Canadian_watcher wrote:yeah, see, you're very entrenched in your prejudices so I don't really want to waste my time.


Handy phrase that, fits any situation, mind if i reuse it?

yeah, see, you're very entrenched in your prejudices so I don't really want to waste my time.


wintler, I don't know what in this thread got your back up.
I am sorry that I've brought anger out in you. I apologize.

I'm not angry, and my back isn't up. If 'angry' is what you sound like to you (cos i only repeated your words back to you), maybe you just learnt something. For me, this is 'just another day' trying to get people to be clear about why they support evil. No luck yet.

Canadian_watcher wrote:I said: "as I and others see it" Not greater understanding - different understanding. Perhaps, yes, a more whole understanding since I and others don't automatically dismiss things we can't directly prove. That's what I mean by faith. I think there's some kind of powerful social programming that makes some people unable to separate 'faith' from 'religion' even when it is specifically stated as being one but not the other.

Oh i understand the difference all right, and i believe plenty of things i cannot prove. But i don't go around preaching them as truths that anyone not-like-me cannot understand. Thats elitist, and totally unrigorous.

wintler2 wrote: Its a shame if you need me to support your belief that you were/are [more] 'able to realise the truth', because without evidence i just can't do it.
Canadian_watcher wrote:no shame necessary, since I didn't ask for your support.
Can you not see how your closed mind might hurt you though?

No. How?

Can you see how your support for AJ might hurt others? And you're saying its worth it, because of some greater understanding your faith has of his hatespeech?

Faith - its a lobotomy.
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Re: Alex Jones Rant: DMT Elves Control Global Elites

Postby wintler2 » Fri Jun 24, 2011 7:28 pm

American Dream wrote:..
I would also point out that leading Nazis may have had a metaphysical view of life on Earth and framed things in terms of a great battle between the forces of good and evil but that does not make all their racist garbage right. David Icke and Alex Jones both carry a lot of racist garbage. And there are many, many critically important things which they get wrong, beyond that too.
Simply framing them as "spiritual seekers" does not change that.


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Re: Alex Jones Rant: DMT Elves Control Global Elites

Postby Canadian_watcher » Fri Jun 24, 2011 7:52 pm

Peregrine wrote:
Canadian_watcher wrote:There's a video called "Awakenings" by Max Igan that I just listened to yesterday on you tube, and I don't remember a single thing in it that didn't resonate with me. It pretty much lays out a synopsis of how I wish I could explain it to people (and have them believe/follow me). Of course, the vid is about an hour long and I wish I could make it into an elevator speech. Impossible though, and that's part of the problem.


I just watched that entire set & must say, it was very well done. I will definitely be sharing it with others.


Cool! I'm glad you liked it! :yay
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Re: Alex Jones Rant: DMT Elves Control Global Elites

Postby Canadian_watcher » Fri Jun 24, 2011 7:54 pm

wintler2 wrote:
Canadian_watcher wrote:
wintler2 wrote:
Canadian_watcher wrote:yeah, see, you're very entrenched in your prejudices so I don't really want to waste my time.


Handy phrase that, fits any situation, mind if i reuse it?

yeah, see, you're very entrenched in your prejudices so I don't really want to waste my time.


wintler, I don't know what in this thread got your back up.
I am sorry that I've brought anger out in you. I apologize.

I'm not angry, and my back isn't up. If 'angry' is what you sound like to you (cos i only repeated your words back to you), maybe you just learnt something. For me, this is 'just another day' trying to get people to be clear about why they support evil. No luck yet.

Canadian_watcher wrote:I said: "as I and others see it" Not greater understanding - different understanding. Perhaps, yes, a more whole understanding since I and others don't automatically dismiss things we can't directly prove. That's what I mean by faith. I think there's some kind of powerful social programming that makes some people unable to separate 'faith' from 'religion' even when it is specifically stated as being one but not the other.

Oh i understand the difference all right, and i believe plenty of things i cannot prove. But i don't go around preaching them as truths that anyone not-like-me cannot understand. Thats elitist, and totally unrigorous.

wintler2 wrote: Its a shame if you need me to support your belief that you were/are [more] 'able to realise the truth', because without evidence i just can't do it.
Canadian_watcher wrote:no shame necessary, since I didn't ask for your support.
Can you not see how your closed mind might hurt you though?

No. How?

Can you see how your support for AJ might hurt others? And you're saying its worth it, because of some greater understanding your faith has of his hatespeech?

Faith - its a lobotomy.


Okay, you're not angry nor do you have your back up. I'll suppose insulting me willy nilly is your typical calm, reasonable self then. This is really about the fact that I didn't jump all over 82 in that other thread. Go ahead and deny it but it's plain obvious to me. Consider this my last post to you until you can be reasonable.
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Re: Alex Jones Rant: DMT Elves Control Global Elites

Postby barracuda » Fri Jun 24, 2011 7:57 pm

8bitagent wrote:
barracuda wrote:I'm beginning to suspect that "DMT elves" is just coded conspiracy-speak for "jews".


It's not at all.


Err, I was just being silly.

666 wrote:Directly or, indirectly, the Trilaterals, CFRs and Bilderbergs are Rockefeller "foundations" and the Rockefellers are nothing more than sock-puppets for the Zionist Rothschilds.


^^This, however, is no less ridiculous.
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Re: Alex Jones Rant: DMT Elves Control Global Elites

Postby 8bitagent » Fri Jun 24, 2011 8:15 pm

Well no Barracuda, to be fair as much as you were kidding there are a lot of coded anti Semitic phrases I see in conspiratainment land. I definitely have encountered a lot of virulent Jew hating voices online(as much as some claim its all ADL/Israeli paid spooks putting on a ruse)

This new article paints the new Delta Airlines/Saudi air policy as anti Jewish, yet it seems that they dont want anyone who isnt Muslim to fly their airlines
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/2 ... d=webmail1

So one has to wonder if there is a litmus test from mind to mind, where one man's Noam Chomsky/Finklestein/Carter slides from say Zionist/Israeli criticism to "Jew this/Jew that".

Note how a number of widely quoted conspiracy researchers were linked to white nationalist or holocaust denial(such as the King Kill 33 stuff)
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Re: Alex Jones Rant: DMT Elves Control Global Elites

Postby justdrew » Fri Jun 24, 2011 9:08 pm

Canadian_watcher wrote:
Peregrine wrote:
Canadian_watcher wrote:There's a video called "Awakenings" by Max Igan that I just listened to yesterday on you tube, and I don't remember a single thing in it that didn't resonate with me. It pretty much lays out a synopsis of how I wish I could explain it to people (and have them believe/follow me). Of course, the vid is about an hour long and I wish I could make it into an elevator speech. Impossible though, and that's part of the problem.


I just watched that entire set & must say, it was very well done. I will definitely be sharing it with others.


Cool! I'm glad you liked it! :yay


will check it out later, but for reference, here's the full version all in one:
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Re: Alex Jones Rant: DMT Elves Control Global Elites

Postby Searcher08 » Fri Jun 24, 2011 9:10 pm

666 wrote:Directly or, indirectly, the Trilaterals, CFRs and Bilderbergs are Rockefeller "foundations" and the Rockefellers are nothing more than sock-puppets for the Zionist Rothschilds.


I dont think one can look on eg David Rockefeller as being a sock puppet for anyone...

You are looking for a central controlling 'Wizard of Oz' and are coming at it from a very western european perspective. My understanding is that the way Rothschilds work is much more like an organisational Sandhurst or West Point, producing people who think in a similar way and DO NOT have to be controlled. It seems a much more P2P than Mainframe if you get my analogy...

I think a good case can be made that the Sheep are the Elite, not the common people. Listen carefully to the last video with the great Aaron Russo, when he is talking about his friendship with Nick Rockefellar - Nick sounds like a fun, very bright and likeable guy. However, the key is that decisons are taken based on informal consensus, not demand. Once the decision is taken though, everyone tends to fall in line AFAIK

How does Nick work with the new Chinese elite? By helping set up schools in China that are similar to the English Public School (Hogwarts without wizards)...
People from that narrow milleau tend to think in a very similar way, which is informed by a) having no need to ever work and b) an aristocratic drive to make a contribution and c) co-opetition with their peers.

Danny Casolaro identified the heart of the Octopus as the Bank of International Settlements. I would say that THAT is the place where transnational global money flows are sculpted.
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Re: Alex Jones Rant: DMT Elves Control Global Elites

Postby elfismiles » Fri Jun 24, 2011 9:23 pm

Having not caught up with the back and forth ... I feeel it necessary to only say this ...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXc4FsHoJkA

... and head straight for the lounge and another drink...

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Re: Alex Jones Rant: DMT Elves Control Global Elites

Postby American Dream » Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:42 pm

Info on David Icke, as collected by Alex Constantine in 2009:

http://aconstantineblacklist.blogspot.c ... -nazi.html

" ... Icke enthusiastically embraced the classic Nazi conspiracy theory [in Robots' Rebellion], alleging that the world is controlled by a secret cadre of "The Elite." He openly endorsed The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, the Tsarist anti-Semitic forgery that informed Hitler's notion of a global Jewish conspiracy. ... "
http://www.publiceye.org/Icke/IckeBackgrounder.htm

Re: "...and the truth shall set you free." - "The book repeated Icke's previous claims that the Protocols were true, and went on to state: 'I strongly believe that a small Jewish clique which has contempt for the mass of Jewish people worked with non-Jews to create the First World War, the Russian Revolution, and the Second World War.... They then dominated the Versailles Peace Conference and created the circumstances which made the Second World War inevitable. They financed Hitler to power in 1933 and made the funds available for his rearmament.'"
http://www.publiceye.org/Icke/IckeBackgrounder.htm

Wikipedia: "Icke has cited white supremacist, neo-Nazi and other far-right publications in his books. British journalist Simon Jones notes that the bibliography of … And the Truth Shall Set You Free lists The Spotlight, formerly published by the now-defunct Liberty Lobby, and which Icke calls "excellent," and On Target, published by the Australian League of Rights, which has organised speaking tours for Holocaust denier David Irving. Jones writes: "It's tempting to dismiss David Icke as a confused and ignorant man, manipulated by extremists in order to present their philosophy in a socially acceptable format. But Icke clearly understands the implications of his words."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Icke

GREENS TO PROTEST DAVID ICKE
AT HART HOUSE THEATRE, OCT 6

http://list.flora.org/pipermail/action- ... 00636.html

"September 30, 1999. The Green Party of Ontario plans to protest
the October 6, 1999 speech of anti-semite, David Icke, if Hart
House Theatre does not cancel the booking. According to Frank de Jong, Green Party of Ontario leader, 'Offering a platform to new age conspiracy theorist and anti-semite David Icke is bad judgement on the part of the U of T.' David Icke was removed from the British Green Party for his anti-Semitic writings. ... "


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http://aconstantineblacklist.blogspot.c ... t-two.html

David Icke is a Neo-Nazi (Part Two): Holocaust Denial


David Icke and the Far-Right


Stephen Roth Institute for the Study of Anti-Semitism and Racism: " ... Exposure, a glossy magazine sold by subscription and at newsstands, was influenced by the worldview of UK eccentric David Icke and publicized the material of several far right Australian groups. In February, editor David Summers sold the magazine, which is now called Hard Evidence. Judging by its promotion during the year of The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion, videos of speeches by League of Rights stalwart Jeremy Lee, a half-page advertisement for Nexus magazine (see below), and aggressive advertising for past issues of Exposure, the magazine’s content remains little changed. ... "

http://www.tau.ac.il/Anti-Semitism/asw2 ... tralia.htm

Icke's Audience

" ... The demographic breakdown of his audience is, in and of itself, an interesting phenomenon. Icke appeals equally to bohemian hipsters and right-wing reactionary fanatics. As regards the latter, in England the British Nazi Group Combat 18 supports his writings, and in America the ultra right-wing conservative group Christian Patriots often attends his lectures (Taylor; Crumey). But they are just as likely to be sitting next to a 60-something UFO buff, a Nuwaubian, a Posadist, a Raelian, or New Age earth goddess. ... "

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_7 ... n28280155/

Holocaust denier Alex Beck, who claims below, after Hitler, that Jewish people control world communism, defends Icke and claims that Jews constitute the "Iluminati." " ... Holocaust investigators are labeled holocaust deniers ... How does a man like Hitler revitalize a worthless economy with money not worth the paper it is printed on into a first rate nation in less than a decade. He got mad loans. But the Jews wouldn't cause the death of other Jews? Your not realizing that nobody in Zion or the Priory died in the holocaust, and all their gold and precious stuff was returned at the end. Usually only circumcised Jews died and the Jewlluminati and Illuminati are rarely ever circumcised. The Jewlluminati cornered the entire European residential/industrial/commercial market. Now anybody that is a Jewlluminati conspiracy theorist is equated with Hitler, even people who are investigating the holocaust. Also the war enabled the communist revolution that was originally under the control of the Jewlluminati. When the Soviet Union got the H-bomb they planted it in critical regions of the Free World and subsequently rebelled, joining the Rebel Alliance. ... "

http://www.freeworldalliance.biz/Jewllu ... story.html
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"HITLER A JEW?" - © Copyright 1999 by David Icke
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Subject: XPOST:David Icke and Conspiracy theories
To: Multiple recipients of list H-ANTIS


" ... But what worries the Jewish community most is that Icke's veiled anti-Semitic references are now attracting the attention of more sinister British forces, in particular Combat 18, the neo-Nazi group which recruits among football's violent hooligan fringe.

"The Jewish Chronicle has reported how Combat 18 has taken to publicizing Icke's current tour in its internal journal, Putsch. Citing Icke's recent lecture in Glastonbury, Putsch claimed that Icke spoke of 'the sheep' and how the Zionist-operated government, sorry 'illuminati', uses them for its own ends. ... "

http://www2.ca.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/orgs/ ... ard.052695
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More Holocaust Denial

" ... He began to flirt explicitly with Holocaust denial, saying 'why do we play a part in suppressing alternative information to the official line of the Second World War? How is it right that while this fierce suppression goes on, free copies of the Spielberg film, Schindler's List, are given to schools to indoctrinate children with the unchallenged version of events. And why do we, who say we oppose tyranny and demand freedom of speech, allow people to go to prison and be vilified, and magazines to be closed down on the spot, for suggesting another version of history.' He also denounced the Nuremberg Trials as 'a farce' and 'a calculated exercise in revenge and manipulation.' ... "

http://direland.typepad.com/direland/20 ... about.html

" ... This flirtation with revisionism can still be seen today, with Icke’s support for the Canadian Holocaust denier Ernst Zundel. Icke’s support centres around Zundel’s freedom of expression. One would imagine however that a more worthy symbol could be found than a pro-Nazi propagandist who has appeared at a trial in a concentration camp uniform and who has disseminated stickers such as 'Holocaust teaching is Child Abuse'. ... Like David Irving and Holocaust revisionism, Icke has seen a change in how the public perceive him. Much more high–profile than Irving, he has been openly ridiculed by many. Also, like Irving, Icke has entered into the murky world of Holocaust denial. Both self-taught, they have become embroiled in a need for continuing revealment of cover-ups to sell more books, organise tours and finance their cause. ... "

http://www.skeptics.org.uk/article.php? ... d_icke.php


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http://aconstantineblacklist.blogspot.c ... ee-my.html

" ... The death of Princess Diana? A ritual sacrifice of a moon goddess who had criticized her husband's reptilian royal family (443). ... "

GREENS TO PROTEST DAVID ICKE AT HART HOUSE THEATRE, OCT 6 (fwd)

The Robot's Rebellion is a conspiracy theory which claims a group of aliens and well-connected people, called the 'Illuminati', are manipulating and controlling world events with a view to establishing global domination.

One of Icke's main sources is a notorious document called the `Protocols of the Elders of Zion', which he renames `the Illuminati Protocols'. It states that Jews are trying to take over the world, and was used by the Nazis to justify the genocide of 6 million people. The Waffen SS used to carry copies in their knapsacks.

By using this document Icke denies the word of those historians who have demonstrated, beyond doubt, that the Protocols are a forgery. He also gives credence to those groups who still use the Protocols to justify their anti-Semitism. [end quote]

David Icke did extensive damage to the credibility of the Greens with his anti-Semitic writings and claims to be a son of god. His ongoing attempts to gain credibility for himself from his prior association with our party makes the damage all the more egregious and ongoing.

http://list.digital-copyright.ca/piperm ... 00636.html
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"WAS HITLER A ROTHSCHILD ~ Articles by David Icke WAS HITLER A ROTHSCHILD? by David Icke Official history is merely a veil to hide the truth of what really happened. ... "
http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:hRf ... cd=8&gl=us
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Evening Standard (London)
Friday, 26 May, 1995,

The Dark Side of David Icke

He may seem like a harmless eccentric, but, says MARK HONIGSBAUM, some of the views put forward by self-styled guru David Icke, currently lecturing round Britain, are dangerously popular with anti-Semites and neo-Nazis.

It has become fashionable, even among adherents of the New Age, to dismiss David Icke as a crank. For a long time now the former Green Party spokesman and self-styled "Son of God" has been collecting fringe beliefs and theories like other people collect new shoes. UFOs, CIA "mind control", world apocalypse - you name it, David Icke has tried it.

But judging by the response to Icke's current lecture tour of Britain, he is no longer quite the figure of fun he used to be.

At a recent meeting in Glastonbury, for instance, more than 100 people paid 5 pounds each to hear his views. During the lecture, David Taylor, a national spokesman for the Green Party, repeatedly heckled Icke about his use of the notorious anti-Semitic forgery, The Protocols of the Elders of Zion. Meanwhile, the Jewish Chronicle has been pressing Icke's Bath-based publisher, Gateway, to reveal the truth about the manuscript of his latest book, said to contain offensive revisionary passages about the Holocaust.

Now uncanny parallels are emerging between Icke's thoughts - if that
is not too grand a term for his mishmash of conspiracy theories and
New Age - and the writings of senior figures in the armed militia
movement in America. ...

http://www2.ca.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/orgs/ ... ard.052695
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David Icke, the Reptilian Infiltration, and the Limits of Science Fiction
By James Trimarco

2 April 2007

... The author goes on to postulate a race of reptilians that has controlled human society from its very beginning. These beings, which Icke calls by the Sumerian[3] word "Anunnaki," infiltrate human society through interbreeding with humans and placing their crossbred offspring into roles of power in human society. The evidence he offers to support this claim, as the late conspiracy expert Bill Keith has pointed out, is hardly of academic quality. The evidence ranges from crackpot etymology (vampires are reptilians because "Dracula" sounds like "Draco" and so on) to references to books that have been repeatedly debunked by scientific experts. Keith characterizes Icke's scholarly methodology as "Believe every goddamn weird thing anybody, anywhere ever said."

The poor quality of Icke's scholarship should be obvious to any reader with a middle-school education, and yet his work resonates with many people. A closer investigation into Icke's vision of Anunnaki infiltration helps to explain the appeal his writings have for his small but loyal group of followers. For Icke, the story of human enslavement by reptilian forces begins about 450,000 years ago. Paraphrasing a translation of a Sumerian tablet by the controversial Orientalist Alexander Sitchin, Icke describes the arrival of the Anunnaki in Africa for the purpose of mining gold. At first, the Anunnaki roped their own working classes into laboring in these mines, but later they developed humanity as a slave race through genetic engineering (6). While the original purpose of humanity's creation involved the exploitation of human labor, Icke argues that the Anunnaki have other, darker uses for human beings. Throughout The Biggest Secret, Icke points to the bloodiest and most difficult chapters in human history and blames each one on Anunnaki scheming. Human sacrifice? Demanded by reptilian overlords (38). British colonialism? Designed to wipe out indigenous knowledge and replace it with propaganda and mind-control (129).

The death of Princess Diana? A ritual sacrifice of a moon goddess who had criticized her husband's reptilian royal family (443). ...

http://www.strangehorizons.com/2007/200 ... ke-a.shtml
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Re: Alex Jones Rant: DMT Elves Control Global Elites

Postby ShinShinKid » Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:58 pm

I had an experience in a mantid castle whilst on fungus many years back...it was an intense experience, that one!
I literally woke up inside a giant castle populated by mantids...I walked around a bit, and went back to where I started and woke up again, back in the "real" world.
Well played, God. Well played".
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Re: Alex Jones Rant: DMT Elves Control Global Elites

Postby wintler2 » Fri Jun 24, 2011 11:00 pm

Canadian_watcher wrote:Okay, you're not angry nor do you have your back up. I'll suppose insulting me willy nilly is your typical calm, reasonable self then.
Quotes?
Canadian_watcher wrote:This is really about the fact that I didn't jump all over 82 in that other thread. Go ahead and deny it but it's plain obvious to me. Consider this my last post to you until you can be reasonable.
WTF? Feel free to ignore me, but i wont be ignoring anyone defending AJ while claiming special knowledge i couldn't possibly understand.
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Re: Alex Jones Rant: DMT Elves Control Global Elites

Postby Peregrine » Fri Jun 24, 2011 11:27 pm

wintler2 wrote:
Canadian_watcher wrote:Okay, you're not angry nor do you have your back up. I'll suppose insulting me willy nilly is your typical calm, reasonable self then.
Quotes?


Well you did insinuate that what she was saying was absurd with that "Those who would believe absurdities would commit atrocities" quote.

And uh...

wintler2 wrote:For me, this is 'just another day' trying to get people to be clear about why they support evil.


I don't know about anyone else, but insinuating that I would "commit atrocities" (directing that quote at C_w was rather misplaced) & that I support evil, well, them's would be fightin' words. :wink:
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