The Revolution-Now Thread (Russell B. & others).

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Postby MacCruiskeen » Wed Oct 30, 2013 3:08 pm

From this week's New Statesman, the same 100-year-old left-of-centre journal that Russell Brand guest-edited (and wrotea brilliant, long essay for) last week:

Naomi Klein: How science is telling us all to revolt

Is our relentless quest for economic growth killing the planet? Climate scientists have seen the data – and they are coming to some incendiary conclusions.

BY NAOMI KLEIN PUBLISHED 29 OCTOBER 2013 10:00

[...]

(Last paragraphs):

... there are many people who are well aware of the revolutionary nature of climate science. It’s why some of the governments that decided to chuck their climate commitments in favour of digging up more carbon have had to find ever more thuggish ways to silence and intimidate their nations’ scientists. In Britain, this strategy is becoming more overt, with Ian Boyd, the chief scientific adviser at the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs, writing recently that scientists should avoid “suggesting that policies are either right or wrong” and should express their views “by working with embedded advisers (such as myself), and by being the voice of reason, rather than dissent, in the public arena”.

If you want to know where this leads, check out what’s happening in Canada, where I live. The Conservative government of Stephen Harper has done such an effective job of gagging scientists and shutting down critical research projects that, in July 2012, a couple thousand scientists and supporters held a mock-funeral on Parliament Hill in Ottawa, mourning “the death of evidence”. Their placards said, “No Science, No Evidence, No Truth”.

But the truth is getting out anyway. The fact that the business-as-usual pursuit of profits and growth is destabilising life on earth is no longer something we need to read about in scientific journals. The early signs are unfolding before our eyes. And increasing numbers of us are responding accordingly: blockading fracking activity in Balcombe; interfering with Arctic drilling preparations in Russian waters (at tremendous personal cost); taking tar sands operators to court for violating indigenous sovereignty; and countless other acts of resistance large and small. In Brad Werner’s computer model, this is the “friction” needed to slow down the forces of destabilisation; the great climate campaigner Bill McKibben calls it the “antibodies” rising up to fight the planet’s “spiking fever”.

It’s not a revolution, but it’s a start. And it might just buy us enough time to figure out a way to live on this planet that is distinctly less f**ked.


Naomi Klein, the author of “The Shock Doctrine” and “No Logo”, is working on a book and a film about the revolutionary power of climate change. You call follow her on twitter @naomiaklein

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/20 ... revolution


So, within the last seven days, we've had Klein, Hedges and Brand all pointing out the imminence and inevitability of revolution.
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Re: The Revolution-Now Thread (Russell B. & others).

Postby MacCruiskeen » Wed Oct 30, 2013 3:40 pm

And a new new one from Hedges:

Our Invisible Revolution

By Chris Hedges

The old ideas that justified global capitalism and the oligarchic elites are being discredited. At some point the battle occurring below the surface will explode.

[...]

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/our ... n_20131028


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Re: The Revolution-Now Thread (Russell B. & others).

Postby MacCruiskeen » Wed Oct 30, 2013 6:30 pm

Brand's twitterfeed:

https://twitter.com/rustyrockets

- includes a delighted message from Naomi Klein after she had just read his essay in the edition of New Statesman he also guest-edited.

Here's another of many people who were delighted and relieved by his phenomenal Paxman interview:

Russell Brand: Radical Prophet

[...]

Russell Brand has emerged as an enlightening force.

[..]

He is currently on a whirlwind worldwide comedy tour, fittingly called Messiah Complex. His performance weaves through famed radical icons such as Malcolm X, Che Guevara, Gandhi and Jesus. Yes, Jesus the radical, the man who cared about the poor and chased the moneychangers from the temple. Russell makes you yearn for a modern day messiah who can chase Wall Street from our lives and deliver us to freedom. Alas, as Che said, only you can liberate yourself. There is much truth to Che’s words. However, as Brand makes clear, we are bred to follow false idols and live in a “cult of the hero.”

[...]

Knowing that we have this ingrained bias built into our cultural programming, it seems clear that the propaganda-addicted masses need icons, now more than ever, who can help expand their consciousness and inspire them to new ways of thinking and living. As Brand jokes about being the second-coming (in bed, not in the biblical sense), you can’t help but think to yourself; is Brand evolving into one of these very icons he pokes fun of? It may seem like a stretch, and it is extremely high praise to even playfully ponder such a question. That being said, I see Brand as a seriously liberating force with limitless potential as a counter-cultural radical iconoclast.

As he masks his message in an intense, quick-witted, relentless rapid-fire torrent of self-deprecating humor, it subversively slips through your habitual thoughts and hits home in a profound way. Amidst all the laughs, I decipher and sum up his message this way: we are all distracted, dumbed-down and mentally conditioned by mainstream media, while corrupt politicians have been paid off by a small group of shortsighted, greed-addicted billionaires and multinational corporations, who are consolidating wealth and resources on an unprecedented scale, and destroying our future in the process.

This may be commonsense to anyone paying attention to the true state of the world, but for the overwhelming majority, to the propagandized masses, he delivers this eye-opening message in bedazzling fashion, with humorous, disheveled sex appeal, which makes him irresistible to the people who need to hear this message the most. The talented trick of it all, he does it all in a very compassionate, fun-loving, and, most importantly, non-preachy style. As Oscar Wilde once said, “If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they’ll kill you.” Brand lives by that quote, he even has it tattooed on his arm.

Above all, Brand’s spiritual vibe comes through, radiating love and empathy for humanity as a whole. That may make the cynical among us roll their tired eyes, but he pulls it off in a genuine way. [...]

http://daviddegraw.org/russell-brand-ra ... sNmiX.dpuf
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Re: The Revolution-Now Thread (Russell B. & others).

Postby MacCruiskeen » Wed Oct 30, 2013 6:44 pm

From Oscar Wilde's great essay, written in 1891 but in many ways timeless:

The Soul of Man under Socialism

http://www.gutenberg.org/dirs/etext97/slman10h.htm

[...]

When Jesus talks about the poor he simply means personalities, just as when he talks about the rich he simply means people who have not developed their personalities. Jesus moved in a community that allowed the accumulation of private property just as ours does, and the gospel that he preached was not that in such a community it is an advantage for a man to live on scanty, unwholesome food, to wear ragged, unwholesome clothes, to sleep in horrid, unwholesome dwellings, and a disadvantage for a man to live under healthy, pleasant, and decent conditions. Such a view would have been wrong there and then, and would, of course, be still more wrong now and in England; for as man moves northward the material necessities of life become of more vital importance, and our society is infinitely more complex, and displays far greater extremes of luxury and pauperism than any society of the antique world. What Jesus meant, was this. He said to man, ‘You have a wonderful personality. Develop it. Be yourself. Don’t imagine that your perfection lies in accumulating or possessing external things. Your affection is inside of you. If only you could realise that, you would not want to be rich. Ordinary riches can be stolen from a man. Real riches cannot. In the treasury-house of your soul, there are infinitely precious things, that may not be taken from you. And so, try to so shape your life that external things will not harm you. And try also to get rid of personal property. It involves sordid preoccupation, endless industry, continual wrong. Personal property hinders Individualism at every step.’ It is to be noted that Jesus never says that impoverished people are necessarily good, or wealthy people necessarily bad. That would not have been true. Wealthy people are, as a class, better than impoverished people, more moral, more intellectual, more well-behaved. There is only one class in the community that thinks more about money than the rich, and that is the poor. The poor can think of nothing else. That is the misery of being poor. What Jesus does say is that man reaches his perfection, not through what he has, not even through what he does, but entirely through what he is.

[...]

On the whole, an artist in England gains something by being attacked. His individuality is intensified. He becomes more completely himself. Of course, the attacks are very gross, very impertinent, and very contemptible. But then no artist expects grace from the vulgar mind, or style from the suburban intellect. Vulgarity and stupidity are two very vivid facts in modern life. One regrets them, naturally. But there they are. They are subjects for study, like everything else. And it is only fair to state, with regard to modern journalists, that they always apologise to one in private for what they have written against one in public.

[...]

(last lines)

Pain is not the ultimate mode of perfection. It is merely provisional and a protest. It has reference to wrong, unhealthy, unjust surroundings. When the wrong, and the disease, and the injustice are removed, it will have no further place. It will have done its work. It was a great work, but it is almost over. Its sphere lessens every day.

Nor will man miss it. For what man has sought for is, indeed, neither pain nor pleasure, but simply Life. Man has sought to live intensely, fully, perfectly. When he can do so without exercising restraint on others, or suffering it ever, and his activities are all pleasurable to him, he will be saner, healthier, more civilised, more himself. Pleasure is Nature’s test, her sign of approval. When man is happy, he is in harmony with himself and his environment. The new Individualism, for whose service Socialism, whether it wills it or not, is working, will be perfect harmony. It will be what the Greeks sought for, but could not, except in Thought, realise completely, because they had slaves, and fed them; it will be what the Renaissance sought for, but could not realise completely except in Art, because they had slaves, and starved them. It will be complete, and through it each man will attain to his perfection. The new Individualism is the new Hellenism.

http://www.gutenberg.org/dirs/etext97/slman10h.htm#


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Oscar Wilde

Born in Dublin in 1854, Oscar Wilde was an Irish playwright, essayist and poet who wrote more than twenty-five works, including a single and singular novel entitled The Picture of Dorian Gray and perhaps the greatest and funniest comedy in the English language, The Importance of Being Earnest. He was one of the very first people to enjoy the status of a ’celebrity’.

At Oxford, the young Wilde was influenced by both Ruskin and Pater and soon came to be regarded as a figurehead of the Aesthetic movement. His flamboyant style of dress was mocked by critics.

He married Constance Lloyd in 1884 and fathered two sons with her. In 1891, he began a passionate homosexual relationship with Lord Alfred Douglas (nicknamed ‘Bosie’). Four years later, Bosie's father, the Marquis of Queensberry, accused Wilde in writing of being 'a posing somdomite' (sic), upon which Wilde sued him for libel. Not only did Wilde lose the case, he was found guilty of gross indecency and sentenced to two years' hard labour. He served his time in three separate prisons: Pentonville, Wandsworth and Reading. During his incarceration, his wife took their children to Switzerland and changed her surname to ‘Holland’.

Prison did lasting damage to Wilde's health. Upon his eventual release in 1897, he moved to Paris, where he wrote his last work: ‘The Ballad of Reading Goal’, a poem about the harshness of prison life, and of life itself. On 30th November 1900, he died, never having recovered from the hardship and humiliation of his public fall from grace, his debilitating jail term, and the ostracism and exile that followed it.

adapted from a sloppy summary at the Birmingham Repertory Theatre website (written for kids, I think)
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Re: The Revolution-Now Thread (Russell B. & others).

Postby American Dream » Wed Oct 30, 2013 6:54 pm

From James Boggs,1963:


The American Revolution

Any social movement starts with the aim of achieving some rights heretofore denied. Sometimes a portion of these rights is achieved without a change in the social structure of the country. When this happens, the movement is not revolutionary, even though it has brought about social change. Such a movement was the CIO. At other times a movement is unable to achieve the rights it seeks without taking power from the existing government and creating a totally new order. When this happens, it is a revolution.

Very few revolutions start with a conscious attempt to take power. No revolution has ever started with everyone in the country agreeing with the goal of the revolutionary movement. It is clashes, both ideological and physical, among segments of the population and usually the whip of the counter-revolution which give the revolution its momentum. Sometimes the revolution is violent, sometimes it is non-violent, but always it is the revolution. Sometimes those in the revolution are conscious of the consequences of their actions, sometimes they are not, but always there is action.

Who will and who will not start a full-scale revolution cannot be foretold. The basis for a revolution is created when the organic structure and conditions within a given country have aroused mass concern. Sometimes the revolution is started by its opponents who by some act arouse the masses to anger and action. Sometimes a very marked improvement in living conditions inculcates in the masses a belief that there is no limit to what they should or can have. Sometimes it is just seeing one segment of the population living so much better than the rest.

No one has ever been able to predict which class or race would start a revolution or how many people would be required to do it. The only certainty is that the success of a revolution depends on the joining in of the working people who make up the bulk of the population.

Marx's theory of revolution was developed in relation to the advanced capitalist countries. The United States is the most advanced capitalist country in the world. Not only that. It is the citadel of world capitalism without which the other capitalist countries could not survive. Therefore any revolutionary who evades facing the specific conditions and realities of American capitalism is like the British workers in Marx's day who were so preoccupied with keeping the Irish workers down that they couldn't fight for their own advancement, or all the American socialists who have been so preoccupied with Stalinism, either pro or con, that they have not sought or been able to find the basis of the revolution that is here, right in front of their eyes, in the most advanced capitalist country in the world. American socialists have never been able to understand why there should be a revolution in the United States when there is such an abundance of commodities in this country. Rather than face this question squarely, they have become refugees in theory, if not in physical fact, from the American Revolution.

Preoccupied, while still living in America, with how revolutionary regimes live up to or fall short of their socialist ideals, American revolutionaries have failed to understand the problems actually faced by these regimes after they come to power. They have not understood the nature of the problem of accumulating capital enough for industrialization, and that the burden of this accumulation must be placed on the backs of the workers—just as it was in all capitalist countries, and especially on the backs of Negro workers in the United States— unless they can get the needed capital from already developed countries like the United States. But the United States will share its resources with the underdeveloped countries only if there is a social revolution in the United States. Which brings us right back to the question of the American Revolution.

The American Revolution does not necessarily have to start from economic grievances. Nor does it have to start with the American working class in the lead. The development of capitalism in the United States has generated more than enough contradictions to pose the question of the total social reorganization of the country. Some of these contradictions relate to sheer poverty and the workers' life in production. Others are just as important and have even wider bearing on the quality of social existence. Man is imaginative and creative. His needs go far beyond the realm of the material.

What is man's greatest human need in the United States today? It is to stop shirking responsibility and start assuming responsibility. When Americans stop doing the one and start doing the other, they will begin to travel the revolutionary road. But to do this they must use as much creative imagination in politics as up to now they have used in production. The fact is that the more imaginative Americans have been in creating new techniques of production, the less imaginative they have been in creating new relations between people. Americans today are like a bunch of ants who have been struggling all summer long to accumulate a harvest and then can't decide how to distribute it and therefore fight among themselves and destroy each other to get at the accumulation.

The greatest obstacle in the way of the American people beginning to behave like human beings rather than like animals is the great American illusion of freedom.

Stop an American and begin to make some serious criticisms of our society, and nine times out of ten his final defense will be: "But this is the freest and finest country in the world." When you probe into what he means by this, it turns out that what he is really talking about is the material goods that he can acquire in exchange for his birthright of political freedom. That is, he is free to have an automobile, a TV, a hi-fi, and all kinds of food, clothing, and drink as long as he doesn't offend anybody he works for or anybody in an official capacity, and as long as he doesn't challenge the accepted pattern of racial, economic, and political relations inside the country or its foreign policy outside. On these questions most Americans absolve themselves from any responsibility by saying that all that is "politics" and "I am not interested in politics." What they really mean is that they are afraid to assume political responsibility because it would mean jeopardizing their economic and social status. No people in the world have more to say about the lack of free speech in Russia, China, Cuba, and Ghana. The reason is that as long as they have these other places to talk about, they can evade facing the silent police state that has grown up inside America. If you casually mention the police state to an American, the first thing that comes to his mind is some other country. He doesn't see his own police state.

That is because in the United States, more than in any other country in the world, every man is a policeman over himself, a prisoner of his own fears. He is afraid to think because he is afraid of what his neighbors might think of what he thinks if they found out what he was thinking, or what his boss might think, or what the police might think, or the FBI, or the CIA. And all because he thinks he has a lot to lose. He thinks he has to choose between material goods and political freedom. And when the two are counterposed, Americans today will choose material goods. Believing they have much to lose, Americans find excuses where there are no excuses, evade issues before the issues arise, shun situations and conversations which could lead to conflict, leave politics and political decisions to the politicians. They will not regain their membership in the human race until they recognize that their greatest need is no longer to make material goods but to make politics.

But politics today in the United States is not just ordinary politics made by ordinary politicans. Not since the 30's and the era of Franklin D. Roosevelt has there been political statesmanship in the United States. Roosevelt's problems and therefore his responsibilities, as he made very clear in his First Inaugural Address, were extraordinary. But Roosevelt's problems were largely domestic. Today, in contrast, every issue, no matter how local or domestic it may seem, has international repercussions inherent in it from the very beginning.

In President Eisenhower's Farewell Address, he warned the people of the growing power of the "military-industrial complex" inside the country. Ike was speaking mainly of the actual military power and personnel. He did not go into the way this apparatus has been interwined with those who control the economic processes of the country and with the various investigating agencies which at every level control the thought processes of the population. All together, these now constitute a military-economic-police bloc which was not elected by the people and cannot be held responsible to the people but which makes all the decisions controlling the life of the people.

This bloc has its present power because the United States actually does have its back to the wall both domestically and internationally. Domestically, it is dependent upon the war economy for economic survival as a capitalist country, and has been so dependent since the Great Depression of the 30's. Internationally, it is dependent upon the military for protection against the world revolutionary movement that is arising among the have-not peoples of the world, and has been so dependent since the 1949 Revolution in China and the Korean War. The United States has lost all the spiritual power which underlies political power of a peaceful kind.

It is the refusal of the American people to face this situation openly and to assume responsibility for tackling it uncompromisingly that gives the military-economic-police bloc its strength. If the secret police were not so secret and silent, it would be much easier to fight. An open enemy is the best enemy. But the fear of the American people of clashing openly with this bloc adds strength to it.

Most secret of all is the CIA, which even members of Congress do not dare question. Yet the CIA has the power to go into a country, organize a war or a revolution or a counter-revolution, recruit among the American people for its schemes; it has the funds and the staff at its disposal to fight an underground war not only against the Russians but against every country in the world.

The FBI is the secret police force closest to the lives of the people. Unlike the FBI of the 30's which used to be hailed as the great protector of the people against the criminal elements, the FBI today functions chiefly as a political police to pry into the private lives and thoughts of every American.

What the FBI does in complete secrecy, the House Un-American Activities Committee does in semi-secrecy, having the power to drag before it any individual or group which actively challenges the status quo in this country. In this way it dangles over all whom it queries the kind of public suspicion and silent condemnation from which there is only one way for the individual to escape—to prove his or her loyalty to the police state by becoming an informer for it.

If the leap that the American people have to take in order to meet the problems of this new age of abundance were not so great, the powers of the secret police would likewise not be so great. In the 30's the problems were relatively simple. All that was required was that the poor struggle against the rich, who were the capitalists and whose failure was clear and obvious.

Today in the 60's, the struggle is much more difficult. What it requires is that people in every stratum of the population clash not only with the agents of the silent police state but with their own prejudices, their own outmoded ideas, their own fears which keep them from grappling with the new realities of our age. The American people must find a way to insist upon their own right and responsibility to make political decisions and to determine policy in all spheres of social existence —whether it is foreign policy, the work process, education, race relations, community life. The coming struggle is a political struggle to take political power out of the hands of the few and put it into the hands of the many. But in order to get this power into the hands of the many, it will be necessary for the many not only to fight the powerful few but to fight and clash among themselves as well.


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Re: The Revolution-Now Thread (Russell B. & others).

Postby gnosticheresy_2 » Wed Oct 30, 2013 7:05 pm

Ok this:

https://medium.com/editors-picks/3aadb5516627

it could (and probably should) go in the NSA thread but it's going here. Why? Because this:

The outsiders are peeking in and moving in, and they are here to stay.
If, as an institution, keeping your balance relies on outsiders staying outside while you talk in jargon and acronyms with your fellow insiders, it’s time to look for a safety net and a harness. A fall is coming, sooner or later. In this world, “this is what we have always done” is not going to cut it.

Time for Plan B.


You can see what was intended, the clampdown, the restrictions on travel, the internet and all the rest of it. But it's all coming apart because the plans that were made were made in the 1970s with the mindset of people in the 1970s. Apparently 2013 was going to be just like 1973 but with "more computers". It might still happen of course but the most powerful law, the law that all human action must conform to is still the law of unintended consequences.
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Re: The Revolution-Now Thread (Russell B. & others).

Postby MacCruiskeen » Wed Oct 30, 2013 7:21 pm

A fall is coming, sooner or later. In this world, “this is what we have always done” is not going to cut it.

https://medium.com/editors-picks/3aadb5516627


Precisely. Thanks, gnosticheresy (and AD). Everybody gets it. It's becoming unignorable, like a kettle whistling, or a baby screaming.

synergy: (n.):
1. the interaction of elements that when combined produce a total effect that is greater than the sum of the individual elements, contributions, etc.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/synergy


Hedges today quotes Sasha Berkman from a century ago:

By the time ruling elites are openly defied, there has already been a nearly total loss of faith in the ideas—in our case free market capitalism and globalization—that sustain the structures of the ruling elites. And once enough people get it, a process that can take years, “the slow, quiet, and peaceful social evolution becomes quick, militant, and violent,” as Berkman wrote. “Evolution becomes revolution.”


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Postby Wombaticus Rex » Wed Oct 30, 2013 11:14 pm

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More and more each day, I think the stories we tell each other are the most important discourse we have. Political, mythic, personal, scientific & spiritual: Metaphors and Metaphors. All on interchangeable screens.
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Re: The Revolution-Now Thread (Russell B. & others).

Postby vanlose kid » Thu Oct 31, 2013 5:51 pm

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Remember that if you know this, then they know it too, and are working on counter-measures, counter-revolutions.

We all think the Nazis lost the war. It's what we've been taught by the scientists so it must be true.

They might have the fervently wished for green-hero waiting in the wings.

Of course, they won't fool us again, not this time.

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Paxman and his ilk: But if we do away with this tel me what will you replace it with?
Brand and his choir: I don't know but something.

Why is it we always assume that this needs to be replaced by something, by anything?

If you do away with cancer must you put something in its place?

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Postby smiths » Thu Oct 31, 2013 7:56 pm

yes, you do need something in its place

massive populations in urban spaces need organisational systems to run

one of the most farcical and damaging ideas of the Bolsheviks following Engels was that when the good people took over, the working class, after getting rid of the bad Capitalists, the State would just 'wither away'

well thats bullshit

getting rid of the banking cartels, the aristocrats and the bullshit system isnt like getting rid of cancer, its more like cutting off the head

it may be an evil head, but its still the head

something will be needed to replace it
the question is why, who, why, what, why, when, why and why again?
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Re: The Revolution-Now Thread (Russell B. & others).

Postby MacCruiskeen » Thu Oct 31, 2013 8:58 pm

Well, well... Musa Okwonga, cited greedily by gollumite-left and careerist-liberal hacks anxious to cut Russell Brand down to size, has now regretted the post that gave them that welcome opportunity (to piss prissily on Brand for his alleged "sexism"):

On Russell Brand: wrong tone, wrong timing.

Musa Okwonga

OCTOBER 26, 2013 SOCIETY NO COMMENTS

So, it’s been a pretty miserable couple of days. In trying to provide a nuanced opinion on Russell Brand, I worry that I have shifted some attention – however small, or unwittingly – away from the necessary observations that he has made of late.

I recently wrote an article expressing what I felt was mild criticism of a couple of Brand’s public recent utterances. My concern, as expressed in the article, was that if Brand truly wishes to advocate a revolution, then his message will be all the more effective for being inclusive. Specifically, that there’s a sizeable [???] number of women who find it difficult to get behind the terrific work that he is doing, because they feel [really? who?] that he is sexist. If he can mobilise their support, then he will have an even greater impact than he is already having.

For several months, I have been enthusiastically sharing all manner of Brand’s work on Twitter and Facebook: his writings on Woolwich, on Hugo Boss, on the Houses of Parliament as metaphor, and his interview on MSNBC. I think that he represents one of the most important spokespeople that we have for progressive causes. ...

[...]

All in all, I think this is probably a good moment for me to take a break from Twitter and Facebook. The constant examination of what I increasingly feel was an error of tone and timing is exhausting, and for the time being I can do without it.

[...]

http://www.okwonga.com/?p=837


To which I can only say: Good on you, Musa Okwonga. That was brave, and honest. You are the only person in the whole left/liberal blogosphere who has had the guts and the decency to admit a mistake, at least a mistake in tone, and to regret very poor timing.

Until today, I had presumed Musa Okwonga was a woman, a black woman, and I wonder how many of the hacks made that very same mistake. But no, he is a man, a black man, and clearly a better man than any of the white guys who exploited his post so ingratiatingly and so opportunistically -- not one of whom will (I predict) ever have the grace to recant.

Russell Brand lacerates British politics, predicts revolution. Millions applaud.

Eton & Oxford-educated chap (BBC/HuffPo pundit & former London barrister) supports Brand, but thinks he might be a bit "sexist".


^^That wouldn't have had quite the same force, would it?

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Re: The Revolution-Now Thread (Russell B. & others).

Postby American Dream » Sat Nov 02, 2013 8:59 am

http://libcom.org/blog/dear-messrs-webb-lustig…-01112013

Dear Messrs Webb and Lustig…

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Thankyou both for your contributions [1][2] to the debating point “should we vote for Labour in the next election.”

As a non-voter, I now feel well and truly told that by sharing Russell Brand’s view on the matter I have entered a grouping of people who are variously daft, dangerous, apathetic, politically flighty, talking through our arses, in favour of gulags and murder, poorly-read and that we just don’t know how lucky we are. How very kind of you to submit such deep and worthy thoughts to the highbrow liberal outlets of the day.

I wonder though were either of you, steeped as you undoubtedly are in the political life of this country, on a picket line at 7am in the morning yesterday? Or at any of the thousands of other picket lines up and down the country that non-voters I know personally have attended week in, week out both in the cause of their own work and in attempts to help save the jobs, or wages, or conditions of others?

Have you felt compelled to stand there patiently explaining to truly apathetic people what a picket line actually does? Have you watched, devastated, as truly daft people have deliberately flouted the democratic decisions of their peers, their friends, their families by walking into work and undermining the very essence of collective action for the sake of a few lousy bob?

Have either of you ever taken a truly dangerous police boot to the knee, or a baton to the face, in the cause of stopping a single one of the outrageous redistributions of wealth from poor to rich that have taken place under murderous governments, both Labour and Tory, in the course of the last 30 years?

No? You mean you haven’t given up hours, weeks, months, years of your time, spent an intimidating percentage of your own capital, risked your very livelihood and freedom for the sake of a hoped-for future you know you probably won’t live to see? Or even just to stop the world from getting any worse?

You haven’t done these things that I see my fellow anarchists do? I know you haven’t. Because I know that for all your fine words about the importance of democracy you, unlike my “apathetic” peers and I, have never actually found yourself having to go to the wire for something truly important.

You sit in your comfortable chair tapping away at your keyboard about the mighty democratic mandate of the people, about the influence of the ballot box, fully in line with and backed by the most powerful forces this island has to offer. You find yourself lauded by your fellow liberals and media pundits, pat yourself on the back and head off for a nice latte.

But you don’t know what it is to join the dots on Labour’s introduction of Workfare and tests for work availability and realise that people are going to die from it, that in one government’s time, maybe two at the outside, you’re going to be stood in the rain outside a jobcentre or a shop trying desperately to build enough momentum to force those bastards to cut it out.

You haven’t the faintest idea about the black fog of despair that descends as a non-voter when you read about Labour’s introduction of a few “minor privatisations” within the NHS and know as sure as eggs is eggs that this is a deliberate wedge designed to soften the service up for a full-on orgy of profitmaking that will ruin countless lives and end more than a few before their time.

And you clearly haven’t remembered your own past, as you are both old enough to have seen a million people stretched through the streets of London, telling a Labour government not to go to war in a land far away on a lie. A big lie. A lie that eventually would lead to the deaths of half a million innocents. A lie told over and over again by the very people you are now asking us to hold our noses and vote for. Not different people, the same fucking ones.

How dare you? How dare you sit there with that smug smirk on your fat wealthy face and tell us we are dangerously apathetic or impractically romantic when you can’t even face up to the fact that you vote for men who were the backroom boys of this murderous campaign done in our name. When you vote for killers who again and again follow the leverage of big money the moment they’ve occupied their comfy seats in the Commons. When you vote for the scum who have wrought such inconceivable damage against the working classes, who have in toffee-nosed accents told people living off nothing “go get a job or we’ll take your benefits you slacker.”

You castigate Brand for ranting about governments not representing him. You call on him and presumably us to “read some fucking Orwell.” I’ve read some fucking Orwell you blithering fool, enough to remember that even this icon of liberality was sharp enough to know of and sympathise with anarchist theory in Homage to Catalonia. Orwell would laugh at you and disavow any connection to your poorly-wrought propaganda for people to vote rather than fight. He would spit on your self-satisfaction you vacuous whelp.

It is not we who are uninformed. It is not we who deny reality. It is not we who pretend that politics for the last 30 years have revolved around who’s sat on the green benches and use that as an excuse to do the sum total of fuck all to contribute to our world and our future because some other bloke will sort it out. That’s you. It’s your casual acceptance and shrug of the shoulders that capitalist representative democracy is the best of a bad lot that has led to the utter destruction of first working class power, then our protections and rights.

You haven’t brought your thunderous disdain down on the hypocrites and charlatans who have lied to us over and over, with sharp suits and sharp smiles and sharp machine minds as they promise “we’ll be different, honest” and then promptly forget we ever existed the day after the election. No, instead you’ve carped and moaned at the millions of disenfranchised who have finally had enough of those liars.

You are the apathetic. You are the problem. It is your politics that must die.
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Re: The Revolution-Now Thread (Russell B. & others).

Postby MacCruiskeen » Sat Nov 02, 2013 11:59 am

^^Yeah, that deserves a lot of attention, and it's getting it. Most people are just not fooled by the hacks any more.

The admirable Jonathan Cook in Nazareth has also been very good on the whole Brand conflagration, and he concludes with this:

Jonathan Cook wrote:UPDATE: For a really superb piece of writing on the same subject – apart from the headline, which does no justice to the quality of what follows it – I wholeheartedly recommend this blog from Cunning Hired Knaves.
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Re: The Revolution-Now Thread (Russell B. & others).

Postby MacCruiskeen » Mon Nov 04, 2013 3:31 pm

Yet more pseudoleftist pseudofeminist piffle:

A discourse on brocialism

"Brocialism" and "manarchist" are such deeply cringeworthy coinages that I can hardly bear to type them out. (The first paragraph alone already takes the whole screed beyond parody.) But in that context, the word "discourse" is the most vomit-inducing of all. This worse-than-worthless Guardianista chatter is a discourse, according to its penny-ante careerist-hack authors.
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Re: The Revolution-Now Thread (Russell B. & others).

Postby MacCruiskeen » Mon Nov 04, 2013 3:51 pm

Live 90-minute interview with Russell Brand & Mehdi Hasan starting right now -- Mon 4 Nov, 20:45 CET (14:45 NYT time, 11:45 LA time):

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/10 ... lp00000008

(20:56) – Today

'Conservatism appeals to our self-interest' - Mehdi quotes from Brand's NS Revolution essay

"I don't agree with the labels. I recognise in myself my capacity for lustfulness, selfishness. I would prefer a culture that did not reward the most negative aspects of human nature.

Are Tories evil? "I don't think tories are evil, I think we have an evil system, and I don't want to advance it.

"But the idea of evil is trite. You can be selfish, i can be selfish, but we don't want a culture that rewards selfishness."


On Edit, 21:20 CET - christ, i want a transcript of this live interview. 35 mins in and he's been non-stop brilliant and fucking funny too.

21:25 - brilliant on addiction & criminalisation too

21:48 on voting - "No, don't grovel, don't be content with so fucking little, FUCK em! (you see now how much I held myself back on Newsnight)..."

21:58 - So that's it, an hour and ten minutes of non-stop ad lib live talk and question-taking and he said not one word that wasn't a million times truer and funnier and saner and more intellectually fucking cogent & stringent than the combined piffling scrivenings of all his all his pseudoleft & hack liberal "critics".

Great, just great.

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