Coercive Engineered Migration: Zionism’s War on Europe

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Re: Coercive Engineered Migration: Zionism’s War on Europe

Postby Occult Means Hidden » Sun Feb 28, 2016 4:33 am

Perspective for everyone because this thread has devolved.

This thread is about Isreali elites waging war on Europe by purposefully sending migrants into Europe, thereby upending Europe's nations and institutions. Does anyone really believe this is plausible or likely?

If it isn't then why are you participating in it without criticism? Criticism would be needed to distance yourself from the blame-jews-first-crowd and their Zionist-grand-conspiracy-theory that isn't rigorous and is somewhat racist. Especially so because in this scenario, middle easterners are the weapons, not people, and white Europeans are those "under attack". Str0mf0rnt loves these types of threads.

If it is, then how can you believe Israeli zionists are actually carrying out the logistics of this war operation against a populace that is moderately sympathetic to Israel politically. A few men making business deals with Turkish associates does not a conspiracy make. Wouldn't flooding Europe with Mid Eastern demographics turn Europe against Israel over time? This method of war, although theoretical and interesting, is highly dubious.

Who would benefit the most by making you believe this is plausible and likely?


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Also I have a feeling these threads are supported as popularity votes for the people who start them. If I started this, I imagine the RI literati would condemn me as racist. Because that's the central premise of this thread:. Migrants aren't people, they are weapons, and their introduction are the Jews fault so they can spoil the delicate European genetic stock.
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Re: Coercive Engineered Migration: Zionism’s War on Europe

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Sun Feb 28, 2016 5:32 am

Well you're clearly a zionist shill. How much money did Soros personally give you last year? Probably millions, and I'll bet you snorted lines of caviar off hookers bums while laughing about how you were gonna help him destroy Europe while he ponied up the money.
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Re: Coercive Engineered Migration: Zionism’s War on Europe

Postby Occult Means Hidden » Sun Feb 28, 2016 5:46 am

Clearly.
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Re: Coercive Engineered Migration: Zionism’s War on Europe

Postby Sounder » Sun Feb 28, 2016 6:48 am

OMH, I was thinking along your line a bit yesterday. Zionists are probably smaller players in this drama than narrative of this thread credits them for.

Still it does seem like the neo-con policy of imperial hegemony coincides closely with Zionist interests.

The article at the link supports an idea that European elites want to create conditions where martial law will be declared.

http://www.abreureport.com/search/label/Global-Politics

Last portion of the article

With the deaths of 130 Frenchmen this past November, the Berlin Group managed to execute the first part of its plot to bring about a federal Europe with an unelected president ruling under martial law. The next planned attack will be bigger, and many more people will die. These attacks will continue until Europe is on the brink of collapse, at which point our savior will emerge, promising to protect Europe from its internal and domestic enemies.

Geert Wilders, the Berlin Group puppet whose only contribution to Dutch politics was the break-up of the previous government coalition, has been completely silent in the face of creeping martial law, increasing militarization, and the berlinization of Europe's borders because he'll be on the short list of candidates selected by the Supreme European Soviet.

When the time comes, Geert Wilders will be the face challenging the militarization and federalization of Europe, but his persona has been fully designed by his handlers to foment instability on the continent. His future failures are designed to plunge the European Union into a catastrophe that could see hundreds of thousands die in a civil war; PNAC's cronies in the US Congress and their lackeys in the Berlin Group have made sure of it. We may soon see American troops fighting in Europe again.
All these things will continue as long as coercion remains a central element of our mentality.
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Re: Coercive Engineered Migration: Zionism’s War on Europe

Postby Occult Means Hidden » Sun Feb 28, 2016 7:24 am

Hello Sounder,

Sounder wrote:OMH, I was thinking along your line a bit yesterday. Zionists are probably smaller players in this drama than narrative of this thread credits them for.


This thread made this connection early and clung to it by postulating that: George Soros = Zionism.

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Still it does seem like the neo-con policy of imperial hegemony coincides closely with Zionist interests.


Is this really so? I mean with confidence I can unequivocally state that Zionist interests are concerned about establishing the state of Israel, and subsequently since then, defending its establishment despite international law violations. Beyond that, can we really claim it is Zionist interests to see a destabilized Europe? I think not. Beyond what i stated above, I don't think it is clear what Zionist interests are.

The article at the link supports an idea that European elites want to create conditions where martial law will be declared.

http://www.abreureport.com/search/label/Global-Politics



But with all of these controlled chaos premises, there is always the possibility that the intended result backfires. Because of this, we can only claim that controlled chaos as policy is theoretical and not a true revelation of world affairs. The article makes mention of the savior taking advantage of the chaos, being neo-con hegemony. What if that savior was Russia or a true revolution? Here it is important to consider because many of these events may not be "planned" at all, but can be the unfortunate side effect of war.
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Re: Coercive Engineered Migration: Zionism’s War on Europe

Postby Sounder » Sun Feb 28, 2016 7:58 am

When 90% of war making is stage setting, propaganda and contingency planning, it beggars the imagination to think that the refugees resulting from destroying Libya, Africa, and parts of the middle east, were not planned into the mix from the start.

Otherwise the 'open borders' of Europe is a policy cooked up by idiots.
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Re: Coercive Engineered Migration: Zionism’s War on Europe

Postby Occult Means Hidden » Sun Feb 28, 2016 8:19 am

I'd like to remind everyone that the open borders policy has its roots in liberalism. That is why the push back against it in Europe and in the U.S. has come from conservatives.

We are blaming George Soros, IMF and the EU for advancing and advocating the real economic benefits of free migration when it has been liberal policy for decades. From radical leftists who despised the state and wanted to break all borders and welcome foreigners into their home land, to moderate liberals armed with economic data showing the positive effects immigration has on an economy, their detractors were conservative rightists.

This reopens the debate about neoliberalism here. But I'm not talking about free trade economics at all. I'm talking about migration. Don't blame Zionists, George Soros, EU globalists, American Intel or any right wing org using migration as a "weapon." Also never forget migrants are human beings first and foremost.

If the liberal perspective has failed here, then let's examine why. Let's certainly not blame others, - such as in this thread, on a certain class of Jews. That's the kind of thing conservatives do. Not us.
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Re: Coercive Engineered Migration: Zionism’s War on Europe

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Sun Feb 28, 2016 8:22 am

Sounder » 28 Feb 2016 21:58 wrote:When 90% of war making is stage setting, propaganda and contingency planning, it beggars the imagination to think that the refugees resulting from destroying Libya, Africa, and parts of the middle east, were not planned into the mix from the start.

Otherwise the 'open borders' of Europe is a policy cooked up by idiots.


That's not 90% of war tho is it. Not of real, actual war.

If anything is 90% of war violence is.

Brutal violence as humans fight each other with things designed to kill other humans.

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Re: Coercive Engineered Migration: Zionism’s War on Europe

Postby Sounder » Sun Feb 28, 2016 9:26 am

I was being facetious Joe.

I'd like to remind everyone that the open borders policy has its roots in liberalism.




It is a peculiar human habit to monetize the suffering of other human beings. We hardly ever notice it because the selling agent successfully convinced the majority that the item to be bought is a good thing. From pharmaceuticals to religion to green revolutions, climate change, drug wars, color revolutions, war on cancer; these things come to life through a sad mixture of good intentions and insecurity.

The folk doing the monetizing are of course not liberal at all and the cause of liberality is further impeded by receiving the backlash that by rights should be directed at the ones that take advantage of liberals good nature and naiveté.

A mirror to this current situation can be seen in events on South America in the fifties.

In that case a front called the John Birch Society was created that served to inflame xenophobia in conservative folk. Naturally, conservative folk want to think of themselves as good people so when opportunity was presented (generously funded by Rockefeller) to become missionaries to South America, many jumped at the chance.

The result was a convenient mapping of the communities that enabled corporate interests to come in and displace the locals, causing the very migrant crisis that the conservatives lived in fear of.

Conservatives got by played by people that hate (garden variety) conservatives.

Now liberals are being played by people that hate liberals.
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Re: Coercive Engineered Migration: Zionism’s War on Europe

Postby seemslikeadream » Sun Feb 28, 2016 9:47 am

Zionist Propaganda and Deception
by Richard Hugus / February 27th, 2016

There is an interesting kind of inversion in Zionist propaganda whereby the thing the Zionist accuses his enemy of doing, he is doing himself. Sometimes it is called projection, but in this case it is not a psychological flaw; it is done consciously for the purpose of deceit. So another word seems appropriate. Here is a case in point.

On February 22, 2016 a group called Americans for Peace and Tolerance held a news conference at the State House in Providence, in which they urged Rhode Island Governor Gina Raimondo to take back an offer she made last November welcoming Syrian refugees coming to the state.

This group, which claims to promote peace and tolerance, is an active supporter of Israel, which has for its entire history brought war to the world by demonizing Arabs and Muslims. When one of the most recent wars – in Syria — creates refugees, the group makes a stand for tolerance by holding a press conference to declare that Syrian refugees should not be tolerated. According to spokesman Charles Jacobs, the refugees “may pose significant dangers to Rhode Islanders, especially to the Jewish community here.” So, the people who created the wars, which in turn created the refugees, now want to be protected from having to be exposed to the refugees they created.

Americans for Peace and Tolerance are not Americans; they’re Israelis. They’re not for peace, but war. They’re not tolerant; they’re intolerant. They accuse others of hatred and violence when in fact this is their own stock in trade.

Reporting on the press conference by the Providence Journal and the Brown Daily Herald failed to point out that Americans for Peace and Tolerance is a Zionist front working for Israel. Its founder and only prominent member is Charles Jacobs, who has founded and provided the membership for other similar groups for the same purpose. These include CAMERA, the Committee for Accuracy in Middle East Reporting (promoting Zionist media analysis), the David Project (promoting Zionist campus activism), and the American Anti-Slavery Group (promoting the Zionist attack on Sudan).

If there is a threat posed by refugees coming to the US from the Middle East, it is not that the refugees hate Jews here and wish to do them harm; it is that they understand from long experience what Zionism has done to their people, culture, and lands in the name of the Jewish state, and that they can bring this understanding to people in the US who know nothing about it. This could be all the more harmful because critical financial, military, and diplomatic aid comes from the US. Of particular worry would be refugees and leaders from Palestine, Iraq, Libya, Syria, or Sudan able to reach, talk to, and educate regular people in the US who have no idea of the racist genocide the US government is supporting. Wherever outspoken Arabs and Muslims have spoken up in New England, they have been attacked by the FBI, immigration authorities, and the court system until they are silenced by jail or deportation. Amer Jubran and Tarek Mehanna are two such examples.

On February 22, Charles Jacobs told the Brown Daily Herald: “Syrian schools teach the country’s children a hatred of the West — “especially of Jews.”

In the Comment section of the Providence Journal Jacobs says:

Here is a study that shows that Syrians learn to despise Jews in schoolrooms across the country. They also learn about being jihadis, anti-Chrisian, and anti-democracy. The reporter got several studies from me, but declined to look at them. SO let the reader decide: http://www.impact-se.org/docs/reports/S ... ia2001.pdf

The study cited was put out in June 2001 by the Center for Monitoring the Impact of Peace, another friendly sounding group, based in Israel. The Center is described by Miftah as “a Jewish organization with links to extremist and racist Israeli groups that advocate settlement activities in the Palestinian territories, expulsion (transfer) of Palestinians from their homeland, and claims that Palestinians are all ‘”terrorists” and that peace with them is not possible.”

The Executive Summary of the study lists a number of offensive positions taken in the Syrian school curriculum. For example:

“Zionism is depicted as a racist and aggressive movement based on false assumptions that the Jews are one people connected to Palestine. Zionism exploits the Jewish religion in order to exercise control over vast areas of the Arab homeland.”

This is supposed to be the outrageous hate speech in Syrian textbooks. In fact, it’s the truth.

One Itamar Marcus is cited for his work in preparing the study. According to Sourcewatch, “in recent years Marcus has been making a living translating and disseminating defamatory communications against Israel, extracted by his staff from Palestinian publications. Marcus, a settler, used to work for David Bar Illan, Benjamin Netanyahu’s PR chief.”

Below are other examples cited in the study as outrageous teaching of hatred in Syrian textbooks:

“An Arab people is uprooted from its land and incoming strangers are used by Imperialism and Zionism as a tool of oppression against the liberation movements in the region.” (Reader and Literary Texts, Grade 7, p. 207)

“Our land was invaded by alien people who had come from distant lands…” (Reader, Grade 5, pt. 2, p. 45)

“The Zionists…had homes in their distant homelands… [but] the oppressors insisted on taking our own home.” (“The Small Lemon Tree,” Short Stories, Grade 5, p. 12)

All true, and richly so. It would be a good antidote to the ignorance about Israeli racism in the US if such textbooks could be brought into US schools. We should be thankful to the study authors for letting us know about them.

Underscoring another method of Israeli propaganda — the importance of constant fear, The Brown Daily Herald reports:

“We will not bow to tyranny and evil,” said former U.S. Rep. Pete Hoekstra, R-MI, a former chairman of the House Intelligence Committee who joined Americans for Peace and Tolerance at the State House. “There will be no more Boston massacres, no more San Bernardinos.”

This is where Israeli propaganda dovetails with highly charged political events staged by darker forces within the Israel and US governments. The real Boston massacre was in 1770; the fake Boston massacre was in 2013. San Bernardino was also a false flag. So was 9–11. These events are now earning their keep by becoming valid coin in support of the war on terror. Their purpose was to undergird the phoniest war in human history, as planned by the neocons working for Israel in the US. Without these staged events, Rep. Hoekstra would have no sound bite, and Americans for Peace and Tolerance would have no fear with which to threaten us.

Israeli propaganda is conducted with a sophisticated understanding of human psychology and culture. Its inversion of reality mixes us up by confronting us with the unthinkable. Would an organization professing noble goals actually promote lies? Could people who claim to be victims actually be aggressors? Could people in positions of authority plan massive attacks on innocent people in order to make us hate their political enemy? Could that enemy have been created out of whole cloth for decades on end? Could someone who says they’re against hate actually be in the business of causing hate? Could people smeared with the “canards” of owning the banks and media actually be guilty of these canards? Were these canards defined as such in order to pre-empt accusation? Could government officials who appear to be sane actually be psychopaths capable of committing false flags? Is it crazy to believe these things when the rest of the world apparently doesn’t?

According the the corporate press, one of the alleged attackers during the November 13, 2015 Paris false flag allegedly said, “This is for Syria!” Here is the feat: Get the public to associate a monstrous mass murder with the legitimate cause of Syria, a nation under relentless outside attack, and you destroy any sympathy for that cause, vilify anyone who might speak in favor of it, justify unheard-of police repression, and further the original war on terror, all at the same time. A complete and utterly cynical deception.

Israeli agents such as Charles Jacobs exploit the meme of victimhood established long ago for Jewish people in order to further the attack being carried out by Zionists against those who really are victims – in this case, the Syrians who have had to flee their attacks, their attempt to steal more Arab land, and, it would seem, their attempt to rule the world.


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EXCLUSIVE: ADL’s “Anti-Israel” List
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An internal Anti-Defamation League (ADL) document acquired by LobeLog shows the 103-year-old group, founded “to stop the defamation of the Jewish people and to secure justice and fair treatment for all,” grouping “U.S. Civil Rights Organizations” under broad, and seemingly misleading, labels.

The presentation, prepared last summer by a research assistant to the ADL’s Jonathan Greenblatt before Greenblatt took over as CEO of the group, offers an overview of the social media outreach of 73 organizations and breaks them into five categories: “Jewish organizations,” “special interest groups,” “broader civil rights organizations,” “anti-Israel groups,” and “human rights organizations.”

Surprisingly, Jewish Voice for Peace (JVP), a group that defines itself as opposing “anti-Jewish, anti-Muslim, and anti-Arab bigotry and oppression,” and “inspired by Jewish tradition to work together for peace, social justice, and human rights” isn’t included in the list of “Jewish organizations,” a group defined in the presentation as “committed to servicing the Jewish people and/or a cause related to Judaism.” Instead, JVP is listed as an “anti-Israel group,” which the presentation describes as supporting “anti-Israel, anti-Zionist and/or pro-Palestinian efforts.”

Indeed, the ADL labeled JVP as “anti-Israel” in the past, citing as evidence the group’s efforts to end U.S. aid for Israel and its support of the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) campaign against Israel.

When presented with the document, JVP Media Coordinator Naomi Dann told LobeLog:

This is a classic example of the ADL’s attempt to define what is in the interest of the Jewish people, in an effort to maintain control over a narrative about Israel that is out of touch with reality. Jewish Voice For Peace is one of the fastest growing Jewish organizations. The fact that the ADL refuses to see human rights for Palestinians as in the interest of the Jewish people is a clear indication of their disconnect from reality and a betrayal of the values they claim to represent. If working for dignity, freedom, and equality for Palestinians is “anti-Israel” then perhaps the ADL has some self-reflection to do.
Even more surprisingly, the presentation placed the National Iranian American Council (NIAC) in the “anti-Israel” section, despite NIAC never taking a position on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. NIAC’s only possible overlap with the ADL’s areas of interest was its work supporting the P5+1’s negotiated agreement with Iran to constrain the country’s nuclear program, an agreement that the ADL encouraged Congress to vote against.

According to the ADL’s Director of Communications Todd Glutnick, the document was “not produced or vetted by [the ADL’s] staff, and as a volunteer student research project was never intended for public dissemination.”

But Glutnick defended the positions taken by the document, telling LobeLog:

Having said that, we would not disagree with the characterization here of Jewish Voices [sic] for Peace or the National American Iranian Council [sic] as anti-Israel. We have publicly identified JVP as such in previous reports, and, if asked, would put NAIC [sic] in that category as well.
UPDATE

Several readers requested that we publish the presentation. A copy can be viewed here. We have redacted the name of the author, an undergraduate student.


National Iranian American Council
Act Now To Stop War & End Racism
Al-Awda The Palestine Right to Return Coalition
American Muslims for Palestine
Friends of Sabeel-North America (Friends of Peace and Justice in The Holy Land Inc.
If Americans Knew/Council for the National Interest
Jewish Voice for Peace
Muslim Public Affairs Council
Congregation Neturei Karta International Inc.
Students for Justice in Palestine
US Campaign to End the Israeli Occupation (aka Education for Just Peace in the Middle East)



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Re: Coercive Engineered Migration: Zionism’s War on Europe

Postby Occult Means Hidden » Sun Feb 28, 2016 12:00 pm

Sounder said:


it beggars the imagination to think that the refugees resulting from destroying Libya, Africa, and parts of the middle east, were not planned into the mix from the start.




Sorry, I disagree. If we have learned anything about warfare, is that the planners seem to not give a damn about refugees or innocent people in general. I would venture so far as to say that refugees are a complete non-factor to military planners.
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Re: Coercive Engineered Migration: Zionism’s War on Europe

Postby backtoiam » Sun Feb 28, 2016 12:35 pm

Occult Means Hidden, apparently there are people sitting around in think tanks, thinking, planning, scheming, about how to use people that flee from war as a weapon against other people. This is from a post on the first page of this thread. So yes, there are people giving this a lot of concentrated thought. If they hate these people enough to bomb them out of their own country I find it a little naive to believe they would not use the resulting misery to their advantage.

Human beings are used as weapons every day in this world. What makes you believe the buck stops on this premise simply because the psychopaths put these people on the run from their homes?

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Weapons Of Mass Migration
About the author.

Greenhill currently serves as Research Fellow and Chair of the Conflict, Security and Public Policy Working Group at Harvard Kennedy School of Government’s Belfer Center…

Greenhill’s research has been supported by the Social Science Research Council, the MacArthur Foundation, the Mellon Foundation, the Eisenhower Foundation and the Neubauer Foundation. Outside of academia, Greenhill has served as a consultant to the Ford Foundation and to the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR), as a defense program analyst for the U.S. Department of Defense, and as an economic policy intern in the Office of Senator John F. Kerry. She sits on the editorial boards of Sage Publications as well as the journals Security Studies and the Journal of Global Security Studies. She previously served as Associate Editor of Security Studies.



A few quotes from her paper. Its a pdf and the formatting is not transferring so I won't quote much. Its chock full of information though.

Measuring Incidence
In fact, well over forty groups of displaced people have been used as pawns in at least fifty-six discrete attempts at coercive engineered migration since the advent
of the 1951 United Nations Refugee Convention alone.
An additional eight
cases are suggestive but inconclusive or “indeterminate.”

Employment of this kind of coercion predates the post-World War II era. However, I focus on the post-1951 period because it was only after World War II—and particularly after ratification of the 1951 Refugee Convention—that international rules and norms regarding the protection of those fleeing violence and persecution were codified
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Re: Coercive Engineered Migration: Zionism’s War on Europe

Postby semper occultus » Sun Feb 28, 2016 1:22 pm

Occult Means Hidden » 28 Feb 2016 08:33 wrote:This thread is about Isreali elites waging war on Europe by purposefully sending migrants into Europe, thereby upending Europe's nations and institutions. Does anyone really believe this is plausible or likely?


.....most posters here thanks to their own research and with a great debt to Alice the Kurious aswell understand Zionism to be far more ( & indeed far stranger ) than just its current dominant exoteric form as right-wing Israeli ethno-nationalism.....with deep roots going back into the history of elite western imperial and geo-political circles, some pretty weird Christian fundamentalists and I would contend very exotic occult groups way beyond that....
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Re: Coercive Engineered Migration: Zionism’s War on Europe

Postby Occult Means Hidden » Sun Feb 28, 2016 1:29 pm

Reply to backtoiam:

This is on a different wavelength. The fact that it could or has happened, definitely is not the point.

Refugees are used as bargaining chips. This is the main thrust of the article. The innocent are often used as bargaining chips. I can understand this, but people escaping war, and being labeled as "weaponry" because they escape war?

No. If we give credence to this, we will begin to forget them as people and start thinking of them as a weapon. That's not acceptable. Especially based on the racial insinuations I highlighted above and which no one else seems to want condemn.

If they were directed into Europe as a hypothetical "weapon", I wouldn't blame them (the refugees) for coming. Better to live safely than not at all. Hell, with that kind of reasoning the refugees may not have even needed to have been directed into Europe, as they would come on their own accord.

This is all so ridiculous that I would have shrugged it off, it it wasn't for the equally dangerous premise in this thread; that a class of Jews are to blame. this is not okay.
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Re: Coercive Engineered Migration: Zionism’s War on Europe

Postby tapitsbo » Sun Feb 28, 2016 1:32 pm

Occult Means Hidden » Sun Feb 28, 2016 8:19 am wrote:I'd like to remind everyone that the open borders policy has its roots in liberalism. That is why the push back against it in Europe and in the U.S. has come from conservatives.

We are blaming George Soros, IMF and the EU for advancing and advocating the real economic benefits of free migration when it has been liberal policy for decades. From radical leftists who despised the state and wanted to break all borders and welcome foreigners into their home land, to moderate liberals armed with economic data showing the positive effects immigration has on an economy, their detractors were conservative rightists.

This reopens the debate about neoliberalism here. But I'm not talking about free trade economics at all. I'm talking about migration. Don't blame Zionists, George Soros, EU globalists, American Intel or any right wing org using migration as a "weapon." Also never forget migrants are human beings first and foremost.

If the liberal perspective has failed here, then let's examine why. Let's certainly not blame others, - such as in this thread, on a certain class of Jews. That's the kind of thing conservatives do. Not us.


Blaming "Zionists" is indeed unfortunately a little too reductive. You could forgive people for doing so however given the complete obeisance of most Western European gov'ts at higher levels to a Zionist war party (to be fair, this is among other interests.)

Does anyone feel it is inaccurate to refer to the the destruction of Iraq, Libya, and Syria as a project of this clique, which has an exceptional status in the West?

Elsewhere in the world "liberal" perspectives have not coincided with policies of offensive warfare or demographic replacement.
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