Trump 'Assassination Attempt'

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Re: Trump 'Assassination Attempt'

Postby Elihu » Mon Sep 23, 2024 11:24 am

just a quick poll, how many actually believe any of this "assassination" bs is real? just curious

and yes, i understand, in a world where nothing is real, just the story itself means it's "real"

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Re: Trump 'Assassination Attempt'

Postby Belligerent Savant » Mon Sep 23, 2024 8:12 pm

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"Real" has been quite subjective, especially of late.
I have no clear visibility into the true causes for the 2 assassination attempts, but history shows that if a powerful entity (or entities) wanted to end the life of a human (any human of any status), they can do so on their initial attempt. As they have.
As such, the 'failures' are purposeful. I do NOT believe that the 'Trump' camp is principally responsible for either attempt, but I also believe that both candidates -- and many/most other politicians in the national spotlight -- do not have any meaningful agency and are at least partially or fully captured & compromised.
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Re: Trump 'Assassination Attempt'

Postby Grizzly » Mon Sep 23, 2024 10:57 pm

i give it a solid 6 on the probability scale of zero to ten. Could be WWF Kabuki, might not be.
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Re: Trump 'Assassination Attempt'

Postby Elihu » Tue Sep 24, 2024 1:32 pm

Grizzly » Mon Sep 23, 2024 10:57 pm wrote:i give it a solid 6 on the probability scale of zero to ten. Could be WWF Kabuki, might not be.
a Six of Ten ????? think bigger my friend. one big kabuki studio with multiple sub-theatres putting on competing acts? i'm going off of tells having seen a lot of kabuki theatre.

never thought of it that way. we're in the show. the props and pratfalls hurt when they hit us.
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Re: Trump 'Assassination Attempt'

Postby SonicG » Thu Sep 26, 2024 1:24 am

It's all very hyper-real to use a trope that has already superseded itself. What will be the hyper-consequences? Indeed:
we're in the show. the props and pratfalls hurt when they hit us.

McLuhan said the "Global Theater" follows the "Global Village"...

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Re: Trump 'Assassination Attempt'

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Re: Trump 'Assassination Attempt'

Postby SonicG » Sat Oct 05, 2024 2:40 am

Somebody could probably make some crude jokes like "If at first you don't succeed..." or "Killing three birds with one stone..." but that's not me...

Trump returns to site of Pennsylvania assassination attempt for huge rally with Vance and Musk

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A statue of Republican presidential nominee former President Donald Trump is set up on a truck ahead of a campaign event at the Butler Farm Show, Friday, Oct. 4, 2024, in Butler, Pa


Things are slowly being pieced together about Trump Assassin #1
FBI identifies no motive or foreign links in Trump assassination attempt
The FBI has still not determined what motivated a gunman to try to assassinate former president Donald Trump at a July campaign rally in Pennsylvania, officials with the federal law enforcement agency said on a call with reporters Wednesday.

Officials also released some photos from their investigation, including of the gunman’s rifle and backpack, and homemade bombs found in his car trunk.

Federal investigators sifted through five years’ worth of online activity by 20-year-old Thomas Matthew Crooks and said they found no credible evidence that a foreign entity directed him to carry out the attack. Nor did they find credible material indicating that he worked with a co-conspirator.

The shooter did not display a consistent political focus in his online searches, officials said, with more than 60 queries about Trump and President Joe Biden in the month before the attack.

Crooks’s online activity indicates “a mixture of ideologies,” said Kevin P. Rojek, the FBI special agent in charge of the Pittsburgh field office. “We see no definitive ideology associated with our subject, either left-leaning or right-leaning.”

The gunman’s online history shows he sought information about both the Democratic National Convention and the Republican National Convention and researched logistics about Trump’s rally in Pennsylvania, officials said. They stressed that the investigation is ongoing and that they continue to pursue leads regarding the gunman and any possible associates.
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They also said Crooks’s parents have been cooperative throughout the investigation, handing over all the information they could to law enforcement.

Law enforcement officials previously said they were focused on Crooks’s online activity as they searched for his motive. They revealed in an earlier briefing that Crooks had searched online “how far away was Oswald from Kennedy,” referring to the 1963 assassination of President John F. Kennedy.

While many expect political motives behind attacks on politicians, a 1997 Secret Service study of American assassins and would-be assassins of public figures found that “attackers and near-lethal approachers of public officials rarely had ‘political’ motives.”
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... on-attempt

So all the stuff about Iran connections are absolute horseshit? meh, no reason to lay off the rhetoric- Trump needs to fire up the base anyway possible. "Rarely had political motives" Of course being MK Ultraed is an apolitical phenomenon.

Regarding the parents though:
The parents of 20-year-old Thomas Crooks who shot Donald Trump last month have retained a lawyer as the FBI investigates the attempted assassination, according to a new report.

An unnamed family member told The Daily Mail that Crooks’s parents have sought the services of Pittsburgh-based law firm Quinn Logue. The move comes as the FBI continues to question how much Matthew and Mary Crooks knew about their son’s plan to assassinate Trump, the Mail reports.

Matthew Crooks is interested in guns and has sold firearms to family members in the past, the source told the Mail. “The FBI still very much has questions about how much they knew and how [Thomas Crooks] slipped through the net,” the individual said.
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/other/pa ... n-attempt/


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New Jersey resident Timothy Denhollander attended Donald Trump's rally in Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania on Aug. 17. A conservative Christian, he believes God saved Trump from a would-be assassin's bullet at his rally in Butler, Pennsylvania in July.
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Re: Trump 'Assassination Attempt'

Postby SonicG » Sun Oct 06, 2024 3:26 am

It looks like the rally went off without incident except his new pet, a South African lemur/Major Defense Contractor named Elon, jumped around on stage apparently:
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The murmurs of Iran trying to assassinate Trump have turned into a great MAGA conspiratard theory: Deep State takes out Trump and Iran gets blamed to start WW3 and ensure Kamala winning. Kill two birds with one stone. This new twist on it is fantabulous!
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Cartels work with Hamas and Isis so it all makes sense.
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Ovidio Guzmán, one of the sons of drug lord Joaquín “El Chapo” Guzmán who was captured earlier this month in a gunfight between hundreds of his henchmen and the Mexican army, was ready for war.

“Inside Ovidio Guzmán’s bedroom alone, we found 47 weapons, including some very high-power weapons and anti-aircraft guns. These types of guns can’t be sold at any store, so we are finding out who sold them [to Guzmán],” Mexico’s Foreign Minister Marcelo Ebrard said during a congress meeting on Monday.

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Re: Trump 'Assassination Attempt'

Postby SonicG » Mon Oct 14, 2024 8:54 am

Third time is indeed a charm!
I can't even begin to wrap my head around this one...
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Vem Miller, who was caught with multiple illegal firearms and fake press passes just feet away from Trump's Coachella rally in an alleged a*sassination attempt, has already been released on a $5K bail.

What’s more alarming is that Miller was recently seen in close proximity to high-profile figures like Vivek Ramaswamy, Newt Gingrich, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., and Donald Trump Jr.

https://twitter.com/ShadowofEzra/status ... 0133883180

oh ho ho ho Alexis Jones... Trumpists manage to cannibalize the F out of each other and yet he continues to gain in the polls...
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Whoa! Here is Vem Miller with Ivan Raiklins who spoke about the benefits of assassinating Trump while on the Alex Jones show.

Miller was arrested for having loaded, illegal guns outside the Trump rally in Coachella.

https://twitter.com/patriottakes/status ... 0158629261

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5 months ago, Alex Jones and InfoWars guest Ivan Raiklin discussed how assassinating Trump would be beneficial, according to them, because it would lead to retaliatory “in kind” assassinations of a “deep state” list which includes President Joe Biden.

Ivan Raiklin: “If they [assassinate Trump], option 2, behind Trump, is going to be so much better for us and so much worse them.”

Alex Jones: “I was about as to say, If they kill him, that’s best case scenario from a sick level. From a sick level medium, ‘Oh, please kill him.’ I mean, it’s so good after that.”

Raiklin: “Oh, it’s going to be the best cleansing and the fastest cleansing that we’ve ever seen in my lifetime. I guaran—, I access, with almost certainty, with the highest level of confidence, that if they assassinate Trump, it is so game over for them.”

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Re: Trump 'Assassination Attempt'

Postby SonicG » Mon Nov 11, 2024 6:47 am

Justice Department brings criminal charges in Iranian murder-for-hire plan targeting Donald Trump
The Justice Department on Friday disclosed an Iranian murder-for-hire plot to kill Donald Trump, charging a man who said he had been tasked by a government official before this week’s election with planning the assassination of the Republican president-elect.

Investigators were told of the plan to kill Trump by Farhad Shakeri, an accused Iranian government asset who spent time in American prisons for robbery and who authorities say maintains a network of criminal associates enlisted by Tehran for surveillance and murder-for-hire plots.

Shakeri told the FBI that a contact in Iran’s paramilitary Revolutionary Guard instructed him this past September to set aside other work he was doing and assemble a plan within seven days to surveil and ultimately kill Trump, according to a criminal complaint unsealed in federal court in Manhattan.

The official was quoted by Shakeri as saying that “We have already spent a lot of money” and that “money’s not an issue.” Shakeri told investigators the official told him that if he could not put together a plan within the seven-day timeframe, then the plot would be paused until after the election because the official assumed Trump would lose and that it would be easier to kill him then, the complaint said.
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Shakeri, an Afghan national who immigrated to the U.S. as a child but later was deported after spending 14 years in prison for robbery, also told investigators that he was tasked by his Revolutionary Guard contact with plotting the killings of two Jewish-Americans living in New York and Israeli tourists in Sri Lanka. Officials say he overlapped with Rivera while in prison as well as an unidentified co-conspirator.

The criminal complaint says Shakeri disclosed some of the details of the alleged plots in a series of recorded telephone interviews with FBI agents while in Iran. The stated reason for his cooperation, he told investigators, was to try to get a reduced prison sentence for an associate behind bars in the U.S.

https://apnews.com/article/iran-fbi-jus ... f41a564bdb

This is a quote from one of the Iranian agents that the DOJ claims was recruited to lead an assassination plot against Trump


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Re: Trump 'Assassination Attempt'

Postby SonicG » Sun Dec 22, 2024 7:59 pm

My dude provides no proof for this even though Ft. Bragg is a cesspool of criminal activities.

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If this is true he was probably just buying cocaine


However, I had not heard this:
The son of the man suspected in the assassination attempt in Florida of former President Donald Trump has been arrested on federal charges of possessing child sexual abuse images.

Oran Routh was arrested this week after authorities searched his Greensboro, North Carolina, home “in connection with an investigation unrelated to child exploitation,” an FBI official said in court papers.

Investigators seized multiple electronic devices and found hundreds of files depicting child sexual abuse, according to the court papers. He faces two charges of possessing and receiving child sexual abuse material.
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