Nuclear Meltdown Watch

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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

Postby Nordic » Thu Apr 14, 2011 1:59 am

Sorry, SLAD, the 2nd one is laughable. There's nothing there, just explosion stuff floating back toward the ground.

The first one you posted, though, is very odd. Can't imagine what that thing is.

And if the UFO's prevented a nuclear disaster, they sure didn't do a very good job!!
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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

Postby eyeno » Thu Apr 14, 2011 2:30 am

This one truly pisses me the fuck off.


Perhaps more disturbing: Nobody knows exactly how the Iodine-131 – which can cause thyroid cancer if consumed in large quantities or over a prolonged period of time – is getting into Philly’s drinking water.

“At this point, that is not really known,” said EPA spokesman David Sternberg. “We’re investigating.”

Kathryn Higley, a health physicist at Oregon State University, said the most likely source is a nearby or upstream medical facility that treats cancer patients with Iodine-131, which can enter the water supply when patients go to the bathroom.

fuck off kathryn



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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

Postby 8bitagent » Thu Apr 14, 2011 3:07 am

Nordic wrote:Sorry, SLAD, the 2nd one is laughable. There's nothing there, just explosion stuff floating back toward the ground.

The first one you posted, though, is very odd. Can't imagine what that thing is.

And if the UFO's prevented a nuclear disaster, they sure didn't do a very good job!!


I can't really see much in the bad footage of the 2nd link. The white blob in question of the 1st video reminds me of the "giant atmospheric white worms" apparently shown in a number of daytime and NASA footage online.

There's stories of UFO activity both preventing and almost triggering cold war era nuclear missile activity.
Of course, I also realize the fact that I'm even mentioning UFOs on here negates my previous discrediting of the HAARP theories. I'm sure programs like CERN and others might have some sort of odd effect on the planet, but I am personally not sold on the HAARP theory regarding earthquakes and tend to think it's more to do with something that's been building up(which of course it's easy to slide that thinking into the 2012 framing)

Back to the OP itself, every day TEPCO seems to reveal more and more bad news, today its about the rods heating up again and possibly leaking.
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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

Postby eyeno » Thu Apr 14, 2011 5:10 am

I'm sure programs like CERN and others might have some sort of odd effect on the planet, but I am personally not sold on the HAARP theory regarding earthquakes and tend to think it's more to do with something that's been building up(which of course it's easy to slide that thinking into the 2012 framing)



I am not totally sold on it either. After giving it another look though and understanding what this system is capable of I don't doubt for a second that it would be used to make a nation submit. So far I have actually been more on the galactic alignment stress position theories but I don't doubt for a second there are people that would use haarp to give it a kick and make it worse if it would serve their purposes. After all, look at the middle east, it is a damn mess, so obviously these people don't give a damn. I am also wondering if there might be tie in for haarp/oil exploration that could be dangerous for earth. With New Madrid I am also looking into the theory of gulf drilling, fracking, and the potential for that to be the reason for some of the new mad preparations made by fema.
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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

Postby 8bitagent » Thu Apr 14, 2011 5:21 am

eyeno wrote:
I'm sure programs like CERN and others might have some sort of odd effect on the planet, but I am personally not sold on the HAARP theory regarding earthquakes and tend to think it's more to do with something that's been building up(which of course it's easy to slide that thinking into the 2012 framing)



I am not totally sold on it either. After giving it another look though and understanding what this system is capable of I don't doubt for a second that it would be used to make a nation submit. So far I have actually been more on the galactic alignment stress position theories but I don't doubt for a second there are people that would use haarp to give it a kick and make it worse if it would serve their purposes. After all, look at the middle east, it is a damn mess, so obviously these people don't give a damn. I am also wondering if there might be tie in for haarp/oil exploration that could be dangerous for earth. With New Madrid I am also looking into the theory of gulf drilling, fracking, and the potential for that to be the reason for some of the new mad preparations made by fema.


Well in parapolitical circles, there's long been a (understandably justified) inclination to frame everything as an American/Western-centric conspiracy. Now Nordic posted a large image of Keith Ledger's Joker from The Dark Knight, referring to how he ultimately revealed his angle was all about chaos. In a way, maybe that is the game being played. A kind of destroying of the current system regardless if its Western proxy or foe, sowing chaos, and all that to redefine lines. I've controversially thought out loud about the possibility that both sides of the world wars were manipulated into fighting. I often imagine that America itself is simply being manipulated, using Western political/corporate hubris and greed as a carrot-stick to guide them to the goal post *it* wants..like leading a mouse through a maze.

With the earthquake phenomenon, it could be that it's a kind of snake that is slithering alongside the human generated war/uprising/financial collapses going on; though not mankind caused. More and more I find the work and thought of Goro Adachi all the more curious and timely, even if it's ultimately food for thought http://www.goroadachi.com/etemenanki
I sometimes find that questioning official narratives takes away(in some cases) the more profound mystery or beauty. Like the moonlanding, some claim it was faked...the real question to me is why they never went back. With the earthquakes, I simply am wondering what does it all mean? Many say that oh, every year there's a lot of earthquakes and that we just don't take notice. But something definitely feels much different.

Btw, anyone else remember(going back to the original topic) how Obama was being the big cheerleader for pushing a new nuclear power agenda aggressively not long ago?
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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

Postby eyeno » Thu Apr 14, 2011 6:02 pm

82_28 I saw a remark you made earlier in reference to avoiding vegetables. To throw in my 2 cents, and for the benefit of other seekers who may stumble in seeking information, this is basically what I have been seeing that seems most accurate. I have seen several doctors and scientists recommend that large leafy vegetables and milk should be avoided. I have even seen a few explain how "all" the food will be contaminated even though they do not specifically state that "all" will be. But, by what they say it becomes obvious to the listener that "all" of it is contaminated. When these same doctors or scientists were asked "what can we eat then?" they replied in a nutshell paraphrased "unfortunately I have not even figured that out for myself yet". So yes, it appears as if the food is in jeopardy and that there may be a few choices that are much bigger winners than others.


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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

Postby eyeno » Thu Apr 14, 2011 11:53 pm

dutchsinse is right again. he said in this video there would be bad thunderstorms in the midwest within 24 to 48 hours of this video.

http://www.youtube.com/user/dutchsinse# ... YHzQRxNdDI


If you look here right now he is exactly right. It is building in this exact area.

http://www.intellicast.com/National/Rad ... imate=true

This is also the New Madrid area. Don't know what this means exactly but I cannot deny that dutchsinse is on the money a lot of the time.

And the rings are still being generated in this area. I have been watching dutch and he is on to something. The patterns repeat often.
http://radar.weather.gov/Conus/full_loop.php


Take away the cloud cover in the ticker box lower left. Rings are there. These rings were not regular radar sigs in times past and where they show up in mass is often where storms will hit a day or two later.
http://www.theweathernetwork.com/weathe ... epage_maps

You have to ZOOM IN to see the rings. Hot and cold air creating high and low pressure. Global warming, if you will...
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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

Postby lupercal » Fri Apr 15, 2011 12:51 am

Globalists Positioned to Exploit Japan's Tragedy
April 14, 2011 - By Tony Cartalucci - BLN Contributing Writer

(snip)

Adding Insult to Injury

While the globocrats myopically obsessed over exploiting a contrived crisis in Libya, there were smatterings of interest gravitating not around how to mitigate the ongoing disaster in Fukushima, but rather how Japan should rebuild - expressed amongst the pages of the corporate-funded think-tank reports.

One such report by Brookings Institute's Robert Pozen titled, "Japan Can Rebuild on New Economic Foundations" includes calls for Japan to throw its borders open, allowing immigrants to solve their aging population dilemma, reforming its political system to undermine spending in rural Japan, and of course, stimulating economic growth with advances in computer technology, drug discovery, and "financial innovation." Financial innovation is of course creating and marketing new forms of securities (i.e. derivatives.)

The Council on Foreign Relations' (CFR) Foreign Affairs magazine article "Tokyo's Turning Point" sees the disaster as an opportunity for Japan to abandon protectionism and embrace the "free-trade" travesty that is the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP). The TPP is yet another bid to further mire nations in the disastrous interdependency that is dragging economies from the US and across Europe into a speculative debt black-hole brought on by international bankers.

The article continues by suggesting future military reforms resulting from March 11 should include removing "anachronistic constraints" on JSDF rules of engagement, interoperability with U.S. forces, and participation in international defense industrial collaboration. It also suggests that faith in nuclear power having been shaken, Japan's dependency on foreign oil will increase, breathing new life into America's mandate to maintain the security of sea-lanes from Japan's coast all the way to the Middle East (China's "String of Pearls.")

Patrick Cronin of the corporate lined Center for a New American Security (CNAS) concurs point-for-point, in his article "Japan’s New Deal Opportunity." He also calls for the full integration of Japan's military into a"NATO-style military interoperability for a range of missions, perhaps starting with humanitarian assistance and disaster relief." Such "interoperability" and the range of missions Mr. Cronin would like to see Japan take part in as they get back onto their feet, would undoubtedly be greatly beneficial to the military industrial complex that funds his CNAS think-tank.

Some corporate, foundation, and government supporters of CNAS include AT&T, BAE Systems (UK), Bechtel, BGR, Chertoff Group, Chevron, DynCorp, General Dynamics, General Electric Aviation, Google, Honeywell International, KBR, Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman, Raytheon, Rockefeller Brothers Fund, Blackstone Group, Boeing, Rockefeller Foundation, Tides Foundation, US Air Force, US Army, USMC, US Department of Defense, and the US Navy.

:(

The consensus emanating from these unelected, extra-legal steering committees of Western policy represent a singular fixation on the pursuit of world government through financial and military hegemony. It is the lens through which all matters are viewed, including the unprecedented tragedy unfolding in Japan. Such myopic megalomaniacal obsession literally costs people their lives, as the priorities set forth but men driven by such an agenda side step real leadership in any given crisis in favor of shameless exploitation.

:(

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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

Postby eyeno » Fri Apr 15, 2011 3:20 am

lupercal wrote:Globalists Positioned to Exploit Japan's Tragedy
April 14, 2011 - By Tony Cartalucci - BLN Contributing Writer

(snip)

Adding Insult to Injury

While the globocrats myopically obsessed over exploiting a contrived crisis in Libya, there were smatterings of interest gravitating not around how to mitigate the ongoing disaster in Fukushima, but rather how Japan should rebuild - expressed amongst the pages of the corporate-funded think-tank reports.

One such report by Brookings Institute's Robert Pozen titled, "Japan Can Rebuild on New Economic Foundations" includes calls for Japan to throw its borders open, allowing immigrants to solve their aging population dilemma, reforming its political system to undermine spending in rural Japan, and of course, stimulating economic growth with advances in computer technology, drug discovery, and "financial innovation." Financial innovation is of course creating and marketing new forms of securities (i.e. derivatives.)

The Council on Foreign Relations' (CFR) Foreign Affairs magazine article "Tokyo's Turning Point" sees the disaster as an opportunity for Japan to abandon protectionism and embrace the "free-trade" travesty that is the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP). The TPP is yet another bid to further mire nations in the disastrous interdependency that is dragging economies from the US and across Europe into a speculative debt black-hole brought on by international bankers.

The article continues by suggesting future military reforms resulting from March 11 should include removing "anachronistic constraints" on JSDF rules of engagement, interoperability with U.S. forces, and participation in international defense industrial collaboration. It also suggests that faith in nuclear power having been shaken, Japan's dependency on foreign oil will increase, breathing new life into America's mandate to maintain the security of sea-lanes from Japan's coast all the way to the Middle East (China's "String of Pearls.")

Patrick Cronin of the corporate lined Center for a New American Security (CNAS) concurs point-for-point, in his article "Japan’s New Deal Opportunity." He also calls for the full integration of Japan's military into a"NATO-style military interoperability for a range of missions, perhaps starting with humanitarian assistance and disaster relief." Such "interoperability" and the range of missions Mr. Cronin would like to see Japan take part in as they get back onto their feet, would undoubtedly be greatly beneficial to the military industrial complex that funds his CNAS think-tank.

Some corporate, foundation, and government supporters of CNAS include AT&T, BAE Systems (UK), Bechtel, BGR, Chertoff Group, Chevron, DynCorp, General Dynamics, General Electric Aviation, Google, Honeywell International, KBR, Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman, Raytheon, Rockefeller Brothers Fund, Blackstone Group, Boeing, Rockefeller Foundation, Tides Foundation, US Air Force, US Army, USMC, US Department of Defense, and the US Navy.

:(

The consensus emanating from these unelected, extra-legal steering committees of Western policy represent a singular fixation on the pursuit of world government through financial and military hegemony. It is the lens through which all matters are viewed, including the unprecedented tragedy unfolding in Japan. Such myopic megalomaniacal obsession literally costs people their lives, as the priorities set forth but men driven by such an agenda side step real leadership in any given crisis in favor of shameless exploitation.

:(

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lup that was one seriously good article right there
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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

Postby StarmanSkye » Fri Apr 15, 2011 10:40 am

Lupercal posted:

"The consensus emanating from these unelected, extra-legal steering committees of Western policy represent a singular fixation on the pursuit of world government through financial and military hegemony. It is the lens through which all matters are viewed, including the unprecedented tragedy unfolding in Japan. Such myopic megalomaniacal obsession literally costs people their lives, as the priorities set forth but men driven by such an agenda side step real leadership in any given crisis in favor of shameless exploitation."

GoddaMNED.
That's seriously twisted & demented. Esp. "...participation in international defense industrial collaboration."


F'kin Military-Corporate Demockery

Everything tainted by their heartless, psychopathic viewpoint that places a premium on control & exploitation by an unelected elite of business interests.

Reading their think-tank prescription for Japan's 'recovery' is about 180 degrees away from what I think are in the citizen's own best interest, which should be to maximize their own self-reliance in the context of greater regional co-prosperity. I'd be thinking of something like Cuba and Venezuela where quality of life and human well-being comes before profits.

Siting nuclear reactors along the coast in a heavy faultzone was NOT a 'democratic' decision based on best information with everyone's interest clearly expressed.

Railroaded by the MIC plutonium-weapons and uranium processed-fuel industries. Now we're all fucked -- tho the Japanese are REALLY on the frontlines now of the incidental genocide which is the ongoing nuclear poisoning of the world. It didn't have to be this way, but disaster capitalism is all about limiting choices.
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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

Postby lupercal » Fri Apr 15, 2011 5:06 pm

^ thanks eyeno and Starman, yeah pretty chilling innit..

Found this on France24, translated it with Google, I wonder if it's a precursor to the coverup we can expect for the next several years?
April 15, 2011 - 7:40 p.m.

Unexplained elevations of radioactivity, Non Fukushima, Cayenne

AFP - A hitherto unexplained elevation of radioactivity was detected Monday by a tag implanted in Cayenne (French Guiana), before returning to normal Tuesday morning, said Friday the Institute of Radiation Protection and Nuclear Safety (IRSN).

According IRSN, this increase would have "a local source, not related to the dispersion of radioactive discharges from the plant in Fukushima."

The institute investigates the origin of the abnormal increase of ambient dose rate, which began Monday around 9:00 local reach at 15.20 to a maximum of 2.5 microSievert (or 2,500 nanosievert, NSV) per hour.

The main peak of radioactivity occurred between 11:30 and 17:30 local. Early Tuesday, she was returned to its usual level (about 70 nSv / h), specifies the IRSN.

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A hitherto unexplained elevation of radioactivity was detected Monday by a tag implanted in Cayenne (French Guiana), before returning to normal Tuesday morning, said Friday the Institute of Radiation Protection and Nuclear Safety (IRSN).

A malfunction of the beacon measurement recently installed on the roof of the gendarmerie of Cayenne "is not to exclude" by IRSN who believes that "the elevation of limited duration, can not be caused by radioactive discharges from the nuclear accident in Fukushima.

"Otherwise we would have seen on other tags," noted Didier Champion, director of environment at the IRSN. However, no abnormal elevation of the background radiation was detected by the tags Téléray in Martinique and Guadeloupe, is the IRSN.

Among the local sources may explain the transient rise in radioactivity in Cayenne, the accidental incineration of a radioactive source, perhaps a medical, is cited.

"We do not know now the source, whether this is an atmospheric dispersion, we do not know the point of emission, or radioactive materials that made this issue", but it is believed that " source should not be very distant "from the tag, said to AFP said Champion.

It refers to "suspicion" that incineration "went wrong" either in an incinerator or in a steel mill. "But this hypothesis is not proven," said the IRSN.

http://www.france24.com/fr/20110415-ele ... -a-cayenne
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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

Postby eyeno » Fri Apr 15, 2011 6:26 pm

This guy has an interview with carolyn hill who professes to have been a programmer for the haarp operation.

http://www.youtube.com/user/mranthonyjhilder
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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

Postby 82_28 » Fri Apr 15, 2011 6:33 pm

Lupercal, that lays bare on a lab table right there whom they are at war with. Amazing and yet not amazing at all.
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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

Postby psynapz » Fri Apr 15, 2011 6:38 pm

Nordic wrote:The first one you posted, though, is very odd. Can't imagine what that thing is.


Uh, a train crossing the distant hillside.
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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

Postby eyeno » Sun Apr 17, 2011 1:01 am

Gov't to say soon when nuke disaster will conclude: Edano

FUKUSHIMA, Japan, April 17, Kyodo

Chief Cabinet Secretary Yukio Edano said Sunday that the government may be able to give an estimate in the next few days of when the nuclear emergency at the Fukushima Daiichi power plant will be concluded.

Edano made the comment during a meeting with Fukushima Gov. Yuhei Sato at the prefectural office.

Edano also said the government would take responsibility for the livelihoods of people displaced by the nuclear disaster caused by the March 11 mega earthquake and tsunami.

''Ensuring people's livelihoods and security is our priority,'' he told Sato.

Edano earlier in the day arrived in Fukushima Prefecture for the first time since the disaster, on a mission to explain government support policies to administrative leaders there.

He also said the government will do its utmost to prevent farmers from Fukushima suffering financially due to misperceptions among consumers about the effects of the nuclear accident.

Edano, meanwhile, declined to specify when residents of the 20-kilometer evacuation radius around the nuclear plant will be able to return temporarily to collect belongings and inspect their homes.
http://english.kyodonews.jp/news/2011/04/85973.html
==Kyodo




Nuclear fuel has melted in three reactors at Japan’s Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant and fallen to the lower sections of their container vessels, raising the specter of overheated material compromising a container and causing a massive radiation release, the Atomic Energy Society of Japan said in a report released on Friday…
http://www.globalsecuritynewswire.org/g ... 5_5020.php



Melted fuel rod fragments have sunk to the bottoms of three reactors at the Fukushima No. 1 power plant and could theoretically burn through the pressure vessels if emergency water-pumping operations are seriously disrupted, the Atomic Energy Society of Japan said Friday.

If too many of the melted fuel fragments puddle at the bottom, they can generate enough concentrated heat to bore a hole in the pressure vessel, which would result in a massive radioactive release to the environment. …
http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/ ... 416a1.html




Whether the Cleveland area’s drinking water supply includes any traces of iodine-131 is unknown because the national sampling initiative is being led by EPA, according to Craig Mullinax, manager of Cleveland Utilities’ Water Division.

“The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency is taking the lead to determine the impact of the radiation which will drift to and across the U.S. through time,” Mullinax said late Thursday. “U.S. EPA has apparently taken some samples in our area.” …

“Cleveland Utilities does not sample for iodine-131 isotopes in the drinking water,” Mullinax said. “Current drinking water sampling guidelines from the U.S. EPA and the Tennessee Department of Environment and Conservation do not require water utilities to collect and analyze for this radioactive isotope.” …

As a preventive measure, Mullinax said Cleveland Utilities has contacted the TDEC office in Chattanooga, but pointed out he was advised the state water quality control agency has not been directed by EPA to begin any random drinking water samplings of its own. …

“They (TDEC) have not received any directive from the U.S. EPA to conduct sampling for iodine-131 or to require Cleveland Utilities to sample,” he stressed.
http://www.clevelandbanner.com/view/ful ... efirstleft



In the days after Japan’s Fukushima nuclear accident began, GlobalPost turned to Arnold Gundersen for an independent view of whether the reactors might melt down. A 39-year veteran of the nuclear industry, Gundersen has worked as a nuclear plant operator and served as an expert witness on the Three Mile Island accident. He is now chief engineer at Fairwinds Associates.

Back then, Gundersen said that the evidence suggested the accident was worse than authorities were revealing. This week, his assessment was shown to be accurate when Japan upgraded Fukushima to a 7, the worst possible rating for a nuclear accident.

So we contacted Gundersen again to get an update on Fukushima. In the following edited and condensed interview, Gundersen gives his expert view of what might happen, how authorities are handling the accident, and how Fukushima will affect health and the environment.
http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news ... l?page=0,1





Smoke rose briefly from a control panel at a nuclear power plant in Niigata Prefecture on the Sea of Japan coast Saturday, the operator Tokyo Electric Power Co. said.

No one was injured in the 7:45 p.m. incident that occurred during the checking of water purification equipment at the Kashiwazaki-Kariwa nuclear complex, the company said, adding it has yet to determine the cause. …
http://english.kyodonews.jp/news/2011/04/85943.html




Levels of radioactivity have risen sharply in seawater near a tsunami-crippled nuclear plant in northern Japan, signaling the possibility of new leaks at the facility, the government said Saturday. …

The new rise in radioactivity could have been caused by the installation Friday of steel panels intended to contain radiation that may have temporarily stirred up stagnant waste in the area, Hidehiko Nishiyama of the Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency told reporters. However, the increase in iodine-131, which has a relatively short eight-day half life, could signal the possibility of a new leak, he said. …
http://www.usatoday.com/money/topstorie ... 5698_x.htm




New TEPCO footage shows smoke/steam rising from reactor buildings — (HELICOPTER DRONE VIDEOS)
April 16th, 2011 at 10:26 PM

Photos For Press, TEPCO, April 16, 2011:

Movies taken from T-Hawk, Reactor Building, Unit 1, 3,4 Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station
Taken April 15, 2011
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