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Re: Connecticut Elementary School Massacre

Postby MacCruiskeen » Mon Feb 18, 2013 6:33 am

The 27th Victim: Nancy Lanza Is Subject Of 'Frontline' Documentary

Padmananda Rama February 15, 2013

http://www.wbur.org/npr/172041275/the-2 ... ocumentary


("Sensory Integration Disorder"? Please.)

Here's the film they're talking about, to be broadcast tomorrow (Tuesday):

Raising Adam Lanza

In the wake of the mass killings at Sandy Hook, FRONTLINE looks for answers to the elusive question: who was Adam Lanza?

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline ... dam-lanza/


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Re: Connecticut Elementary School Massacre

Postby Canadian_watcher » Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:41 am

^ thanks for that Mac. I'll probably listen to it when it's available online. I don't know much about this story (on purpose) but I'm always interested in the "who the nut-case REALLY was" documentaries just because they're usually kind of energizing in a makes-me-want-to-smash-my-computer-in-rage kind of way.

IE - the first sentence in the preview you linked to is "We have a loner..."
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Re: Connecticut Elementary School Massacre

Postby The Consul » Tue Feb 19, 2013 5:33 pm

SID is not listed as a recognized diagnosis in the DSM-IV-TR or the ICD-10.
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Re: Connecticut Elementary School Massacre

Postby Iamwhomiam » Wed Feb 20, 2013 1:24 am

^^^^ Right. And then his diagnosis was classified as 'Mildly Autistic.' Maybe he learned his mother had eaten tons of acid when he was conceived, blaming her for his disability? (Peculiar behaviors)

We will never know what set this kid off, and that's a shame. It a shame even in this day and age that people are so alone in their ostracism, whether through choice, necessity, or circumstance, that we're clueless as to why someone would be prompted to such hateful actions when they occur.
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Re: Connecticut Elementary School Massacre

Postby 82_28 » Wed Feb 20, 2013 2:09 am

Turn on PBS Seattle people. The Lanza Frontline just started. NOW. If you wanna see it without downloading it. . . .
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Re: Connecticut Elementary School Massacre

Postby MacCruiskeen » Wed Feb 20, 2013 6:13 am

Iamwhomiam wrote:We will never know what set this kid off, and that's a shame
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It's even more of a shame that even you now presume that he was "set off". I don't see any good reason to presume such a thing and I see many good reasons to doubt it. In fact, I believe less and less that Adam Lanza had anything whatsoever to do with that massacre, not least because the attempts to blacken his name are becoming ever more shameless, ever more blatant and ever more transparent. If he had really dunnit, they wouldn't need to try so hard to transform him into the desired MONSTER, or to concoct something so very vaguely resembling a motive:

Report: Sandy Hook shooter tried to emulate Norway massacre
By Ed Payne, CNN
February 19, 2013 -- Updated 2349 GMT (0749 HKT)

http://edition.cnn.com/2013/02/19/justi ... index.html


^^Just look at that shit. I refuse to reprint it. It is obscene -- CNN "reporting" on a CBS "report" that claims to "quote" unnamed (but of course) "law enforcement sources" (sic).

Inevitably, it also makes a gigantic fucking meal of the "evil" photo, the magic one that appeared so handily from nowhere. Watch that evil photo dancing evilly around there, looming evilly out from the centre of itself, sidling evilly in from the edges, appearing evilly to the right and to the left of Evil Evil Breivik. Do you think maybe they're trying to tell us something about Adam Lanza? Sometimes I have my suspicions.

I myself first saw the CBS report and its invented "law enforcement" quotes chewed up and vomited out this morning on the German TV news programme N24. This is the way this stuff works: through constant nagging suggestion and insinuation in a million different media worldwide.

The spooks and their dependable media lackeys presume, rightly, that hardly anyone will really be paying attention by now. Most people, I guess, now presume it's been proven, not only that Adam Lanza dunnit, but also that he dunnit because he was a loony, not just any old loony but also an evil loony who wanted to top evil Breivik, and that evil video games put the mad cherry on the vile vicious cake of his intrinisic evil looniness.

It's all a load of shite, of course. Here's the only part of that entire farrago worth attending to:

Police dismiss report

A spokesman for the Connecticut State Police dismissed the CBS report, calling it speculation.


"It's inaccurate ... I talked with CBS and told them that," Lt. Paul Vance told CNN. "We are dealing with a deceased shooter and trying to rebuild history."

http://edition.cnn.com/2013/02/19/justi ... index.html


The CNN hacks snuck that not-insignificant police statement in there, about 20 lines below the sensationalist headline, for which they had provided not an ounce of evidence. It is just absolutely shameless. But that's the way it works, in an increasingly post-legal ̶s̶o̶c̶i̶e̶t̶y̶ civilization. Even the cops can be ignored with impunity, whenever it's convenient to do so. Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? "Unnamed law enforcement sources", that's who. In plain English: spooks.
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Re: Connecticut Elementary School Massacre

Postby The Consul » Wed Feb 20, 2013 3:16 pm

Although I cannot speculate as to Lanza's "spree" beyond the surface - I must say that it would not be too difficult if one had access to enough photographs or infromation regarding just about anyone, to come a cross a few pictures that could be emblematic of a disturbed, lone nut mind. And all you have to do is throw in the word Hitler, Bundy, Diebold, Brievik - take your pick - to cement a popularized notion that has little relevance (or even relation to fact) with what the hell is going on. I can imagine some CIA fringe company having a contest among their psychopathic brotherhood in which two people are grabbed at random and the game is to see which one can be framed for the worst, most sensational crime, and how they would be used to shape the news narrative in ways to benefit their deep politics agenda. How hard would it be to plant a simple sentence like "it has been rumored that the alleged shooter had a framed portrait of Osama Bin'Laden with a votive candle in front of it that was still burning when the swat team broke down the front door."
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Re: Connecticut Elementary School Massacre

Postby barracuda » Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:05 pm

I'm trying to imagine what kind of a life a person has in which no one in your community has a photograph of you which is taken in the last four years. Because no one has come forward with one yet. To me, this says: no friends. At all. And that is one of the most bizarre things about Lanza in a way: from the time he was about sixteen til he died at twenty, attending high school and college, he didn't have a single friend close enough to actually snap a photo.

Here's a new picture from tenth grade:

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More meaningless conjecture at link:

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/pho ... 51161.html
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Re: Connecticut Elementary School Massacre

Postby lupercal » Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:20 pm

^ how do we know no one has such a photo? Because no one put one in the NYT? Or in the local paper whose editor is hostile to questions about the shooting? Who in their right mind is going to leap publicly to Lanza's defense in the currently poisonous climate we've seen right here on RI? Another thing we don't really know is exactly when and how he died but nobody's asking that question either.

p.s. to consul: that's pretty good, but personally I don't think there's anything random about these shootings, especially the ones intended for hyper-public consumption like Sandy Hook. Basically this was the big holiday psy-op so I imagine every detail was carefully thought through on several levels, with targeted messages sent to multiple constituencies. The autism angle for example could benefit the school privatization agenda as a huge cost to public schools is special education and the ancillary staff needed to accommodate the gigantic cohort of brain-damaged children in K-12. Clearly there's no profit in taking on that task which the charter tycoons and corporate types would love to shirk forever. What better way that to demonize such children as dangerous deviants and shunt them off to private prison industry, or at least forestall public awareness that the privatization crowd isn't pulling its weight by ignoring them. That's one possibility anyway. There's also that thing CNN does so well which is hate on the neighbors.
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Re: Connecticut Elementary School Massacre

Postby MacCruiskeen » Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:43 pm

Why does it say "TV" in big letters behind him? Is that an "N" or a "W" before "TV"? Was Adam Lanza appearing on some TV show? Exactly where and when was that photo taken, and by whom?

Those are the kind of things a naive person might imagine journalists would bother finding out and even communicating to their readers as a matter of plain courtesy, or rather as a matter of course. After all, these are NEW, NEVER-BEFORE-SEEN photos of the worst mass killer in recent history -- right? But what the hell, why worry, those photos just "emerged", as photos and daffodils do, whenever the time is ripe. The source and context are quite irrelevant.

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And if a painfully shy boy who (we're told) has a crippling, morbid fear of strange people, new situations, loud noises and bright lights can shoot his mother four times in the face before driving to an elementary school, smashing his way in there and letting all hell loose in two classrooms and an office before shooting himself in the head, then there's no reason why he can't also have hosted, say, Saturday Night Live at the age of fifteen. Who but a Conspiracy Nut would even bother his little head wondering about it?

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Re: Connecticut Elementary School Massacre

Postby barracuda » Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:07 pm

lupercal wrote:^ how do we know no one has such a photo? Because no one put one in the NYT? Or in the local paper whose editor is hostile to questions about the shooting? Who in their right mind is going to leap publicly to Lanza's defense in the currently poisonous climate we've seen right here on RI?


If they were out there, someone would have sold them to the Enquirer by now. They're worth money.

MacCruiskeen wrote:Why does it say "TV" in big letters behind him? Is that an "N" or a "W" before "TV"? Was Adam Lanza appearing on some TV show? Exactly where and when was that photo taken, and by whom?


It's the logo of part of the tech club he belonged to at Newtown High. See here.
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Re: Connecticut Elementary School Massacre

Postby MinM » Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:41 pm


Newtown is home to the "Fairfield Hills" Hospital, used as the set of the Wilkinson Home for Boys in the film Sleepers in 1995. In the Wilkinson Home for Boys, children are systematically beaten, abused, and raped.

http://aangirfan.blogspot.com/2012/12/n ... tings.html

Watched that last night on ION. Talk about triggering .. it was tough to watch.
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Re: Connecticut Elementary School Massacre

Postby MacCruiskeen » Wed Feb 20, 2013 6:00 pm

barracuda wrote:It's the logo of part of the tech club he belonged to at Newtown High. See here.


Thanks, barracuda. So the "tech club" also did TV broadcasts of local basketball games, wrestling matches and the like? That's interesting. Judging by the article, it seems they were far from being a bunch of antisocial shutaways.

I wrote:...then there's no reason why he can't also have hosted, say, Saturday Night Live at the age of fifteen.


Weirdly enough, I found this photo online just a couple of minutes after posting that sarcastic line. Apparently it shows Ryan Lanza and his father actually on the set of Saturday Night Live:

http://cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?p= ... 8b46b1b8ed

(Can't embed it. Scroll down to the second post.)
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Re: Connecticut Elementary School Massacre

Postby MacCruiskeen » Wed Feb 20, 2013 6:30 pm

Does anyone know exactly how Adam Lanza's body was identified at the school, and by whom? In particular: Was DNA evidence used in the identification? If not, why not?

(It's well known that gunshots to the head can alter a person's appearance beyond recognition, making eyewitness identification impossible. Apparently that's what happened to Nancy Lanza, for instance.)
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Re: Connecticut Elementary School Massacre

Postby Iamwhomiam » Wed Feb 20, 2013 7:30 pm

The boy's mental health history was invented, too, Mac? Tell me then, "It's even more of a shame that even you now presume that he was "set off"... yeah. 20 dead kids, eight dead adults and two surviving witnesses.

Witnesses, Mac, real, live witnesses who saw who shot them.

But of course, we'll only hear from actors playing the victim role, because the 'real' survivors have all been disappeared. Yeah, right.

If there is some conspiracy and the accused a willing or unwilling pawn, what's its point? Why did 28 need to die? For what reason? Certainly with a conspiracy, there must be some focus of its members upon some goal, so what purpose did this conspiracy hold for said conspirators?

Simply to blacken the name of an autistic 20 year-old?

I pose that if this was a conspiracy and the accused innocent, that it was a sacrifice, payment in advance for poppy's continued well-being. And that's more sensible than any point you or Loopy have made.

"Weirdly enough, I found this photo online just a couple of minutes after posting that sarcastic line. Apparently it shows Ryan Lanza and his father actually on the set of Saturday Night Live..."

Great. Now Lorne Michaels, too, is a co-conspirator, we find, as the plot thickens.

Lupe wrote: "Who in their right mind is going to leap publicly to Lanza's defense in the currently poisonous climate we've seen right here on RI?"

Seems to me you're mourning the wrong fellow, Lupe. But it's nice to see you've finally recognized the point you've spewed poison across these many pages, accusing so publicly innocents of committing mass murder.

Cui bono? What's the point of such a conspiracy, if this horrible mass murder had one besides that of the 'supposed' acting-out of a 'supposedly' mentally disabled 20 year-old individual 'supposedly' wanting to inflict as much pain as he 'supposedly' felt others supposedly caused him during his short but memorable life?

I've written more than once that those looking for a conspiracy should look into the Seattle Zombie Rave afterparty slaughter of seven and wounding of two committed, we're told, by Kyle Huff, an identical twin. Military father, presently unaccounted for, and the twins prime candidates for an MK program. And he left 3 mysterious clues, too. "NOW"

Just imagine if you will, how very many pages that incident ran here on RI, and how I felt reading what others had written about my son.
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