Connecticut Elementary School Massacre

[lupercal]

Someone send me an email if something turns up about the supposed boyfriend, or when someone's finally developed a motive for said conspiracy.

Plausible deep-state motives based on actual documented events -- along with the usual rumors plucked from posters' large intestines, à la "supposed boyfriend," spoiled rich kid goes postal, and "shooter killed his mother then killed another part of her in the form of the kids and others who were attached to her as a teacher" -- have been supplied aplenty from day 1, including:

* Distraction from politically damaging resignations, same day (12/14/12), page 2: Subject: Connecticut Elementary School Massacre

* Hurricane Sandy KWH, same day, page 3: Subject: Connecticut Elementary School Massacre

* Domestic Benghazi, same day, page 3: Subject: Connecticut Elementary School Massacre

* Hugely successful marketing gimmick for small arms industry, retail lobbying headquarters of which are located across the highway from Sandy Hook, 12/21/12, page 17: Subject: Connecticut Elementary School Massacre

Speculative motives based on past shootings have also been supplied, including political terrorism aimed at hamstringing the Obama administration with a divisive wedge issue; interfering with crucial second-term appointments, and distracting from current budget negotiations. Note that all of the above are fait accompli, while a plausible personal motive has yet to be supplied.

[DrEvil]

@lupercal: Err... Am I missing something here? You link to four of your own speculative posts and then use them as "evidence" to support your latest speculations?
And then you dismiss out of hand any kind of speculation about his mental health.
Why are your theories about ulterior motives and false flag ops more plausible than other people's theories about his mental health?

[barracuda]

As fascinating as all these possible deep state motives are, there's no point in pretending insanity isn't a motive. You have to ignore a long history of extremely similar mass killings in order to do so.

Killed 23, shot himself in the head, no motive.

Killed 13, shot himself in the head. Motive: felt "degraded and disrespected" for his poor English language skills.

Killed 11, shot himself in the head. Motive: repossessed car.

Killed 10, shot himself in the head. Motive: depressed about job issues.

Killed 8, shot himself in the head. Motive: monosodium glutamate.

Killed 8, shot himself in the head. Motive: tired of this meaningless existence and the constant disappointment.

Etc.

(Okay, that last one I sort of empathize with in terms of motivation for something, but not the killing of eight random people in a shopping mall. I mean, I basically say the same thing to myself each morning.)

Don't go looking for a "eureka" moment of understanding in these killings. There isn't one. The motivations of the insane are insanely opaque.

At the very least, it's nearly impossible to deny that something was very wrong with Adam Lanza from a fairly young age, and that his mother tried a variety of strategies in order to deal with his problems. And Ryan apparently knew enough about his brother's problems to realize right away that Adam may have killed their mother: "It was my brother. I think my mother is dead."

If Adam Lanza killed those people, if that's really is the way it happened, there is no motive that will make sense. There will be no scrap of information about his mother, about his schooling, about his gaming, or anything else that will come to light and cause anyone to say to themselves, "oh, NOW I get it, now I see why he slaughtered eighteen cowering six year old children." It won't happen, because nothing justifies these actions.

[justdrew]

but 'cudda, they PARKED THE FIRETRUCKS WRONG!

[lupercal]

@lupercal: Err... Am I missing something here? You link to four of your own speculative posts and then use them as "evidence" to support your latest speculations?

Yes, you are missing a lot of things but in this instance I was replying to the tired canard that nobody has yet supplied a motive for a putative conspiracy. Maybe you missed the Iamwhomiam quotation sitting at the top of the page? But let's move on:

And then you dismiss out of hand any kind of speculation about his mental health.
Why are your theories about ulterior motives and false flag ops more plausible than other people's theories about his mental health?

Because there's no evidence that Adam Lanza's mental health had anything to do with the Newtown shootings, and because my theories are based on actual documented prior and subsequent events, as I mentioned. Or did you miss this too:

Note that all of the above are fait accompli, while a plausible personal motive has yet to be supplied.

I know, I know, Wolf Blitzbag didn't repeat it forty times an hour for a month in between Viagra ads so it's hard accept, but try.

[Canadian_watcher]

As fascinating as all these possible deep state motives are, there's no point in pretending insanity isn't a motive. You have to ignore a long history of extremely similar mass killings in order to do so.

Killed 23, shot himself in the head, no motive.

Killed 13, shot himself in the head. Motive: felt "degraded and disrespected" for his poor English language skills.

Killed 11, shot himself in the head. Motive: repossessed car.

Killed 10, shot himself in the head. Motive: depressed about job issues.

Killed 8, shot himself in the head. Motive: monosodium glutamate.

Killed 8, shot himself in the head. Motive: tired of this meaningless existence and the constant disappointment.

I'm not taking any side here, but it must be mentioned that the 'motive' ascribed for each killing, above, is the one supplied by the media after the fact. I think I can safely make that assumption judging from the fact that each of the above examples includes "shot himself in the head" so I am fairly confident that the killers themselves didn't pronounce their motives after the fact. I remind, as well, that any hint of motive gathered after the fact in the form of testimony, written notes, posts on bulletin boards etc are not 'truth' necessarily. They are, in fact, 'reports from the media' since none of us knows their origin or veracity and each of us heard the evidence via.. you guessed it .. the media.

thanks.

[justdrew]

As fascinating as all these possible deep state motives are, there's no point in pretending insanity isn't a motive. You have to ignore a long history of extremely similar mass killings in order to do so.

Killed 23, shot himself in the head, no motive.

Killed 13, shot himself in the head. Motive: felt "degraded and disrespected" for his poor English language skills.

Killed 11, shot himself in the head. Motive: repossessed car.

Killed 10, shot himself in the head. Motive: depressed about job issues.

Killed 8, shot himself in the head. Motive: monosodium glutamate.

Killed 8, shot himself in the head. Motive: tired of this meaningless existence and the constant disappointment.

I'm not taking any side here, but it must be mentioned that the 'motive' ascribed for each killing, above, is the one supplied by the media after the fact. I think I can safely make that assumption judging from the fact that each of the above examples includes "shot himself in the head" so I am fairly confident that the killers themselves didn't pronounce their motives after the fact. I remind, as well, that any hint of motive gathered after the fact in the form of testimony, written notes, posts on bulletin boards etc are not 'truth' necessarily. They are, in fact, 'reports from the media' since none of us knows their origin or veracity and each of us heard the evidence via.. you guessed it .. the media.

thanks.

thank you for reminding us all that in truth we can know NOTHING about ANYTHING

[justdrew]

adam lanza went amok and killed a lot of people including himself. just like a few people have very occasionally done since forever. OR EVERYONE IS LYING ABOUT EVERYTHING, it's all a charade! that is clinically delusional and only a fool would think so. sorry. sick to fucking death of these bullshit sandy hoax nut jobs. it's a sad sad pathetic shame we have to put up with such nonsense. absolutely complete credibility destroying nonsense bullshit psyop shitstorm. congratulations sandy hoaxers for finding a new low point in human civilization.

[DrEvil]

adam lanza went amok and killed a lot of people including himself. just like a few people have very occasionally done since forever. OR EVERYONE IS LYING ABOUT EVERYTHING, it's all a charade! that is clinically delusional and only a fool would think so. sorry. sick to fucking death of these bullshit sandy hoax nut jobs. it's a sad sad pathetic shame we have to put up with such nonsense. absolutely complete credibility destroying nonsense bullshit psyop shitstorm. congratulations sandy hoaxers for finding a new low point in human civilization.

Amen! Who needs disinfo agents with so many useful idiots around.

[justdrew]

adam lanza went amok and killed a lot of people including himself. just like a few people have very occasionally done since forever. OR EVERYONE IS LYING ABOUT EVERYTHING, it's all a charade! that is clinically delusional and only a fool would think so. sorry. sick to fucking death of these bullshit sandy hoax nut jobs. it's a sad sad pathetic shame we have to put up with such nonsense. absolutely complete credibility destroying nonsense bullshit psyop shitstorm. congratulations sandy hoaxers for finding a new low point in human civilization.

Amen! Who needs disinfo agents with so many useful idiots around.

youtube is FULL of these idiot shitshows with the most asinine assertions. did you know the school was closed and no kids were actually attending it? A whole town has apparently been bought off since not a single parent has come forward to point out that that's not where their kids went to school. everyday.

WTF the level of madness on display is really shocking. total reality detachment.

I'm sorry if that hurts some feelings but god damn it

North American Gun Obsession Syndrome has really fucked some heads up.

[conniption]

adam lanza went amok and killed a lot of people including himself. just like a few people have very occasionally done since forever. OR EVERYONE IS LYING ABOUT EVERYTHING, it's all a charade! that is clinically delusional and only a fool would think so. sorry. sick to fucking death of these bullshit sandy hoax nut jobs. it's a sad sad pathetic shame we have to put up with such nonsense. absolutely complete credibility destroying nonsense bullshit psyop shitstorm. congratulations sandy hoaxers for finding a new low point in human civilization.

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[Canadian_watcher]

thank you for reminding us all that in truth we can know NOTHING about ANYTHING

That's not what I was saying. In cases of the 'news' though it's really just a giant game of telephone mixed in with political and personal agendas so we shouldn't get too cocky in our pronouncements about so called 'facts' of past cases, etc. let alone use those to try and debunk current questions about current cases.

[justdrew]

thank you for reminding us all that in truth we can know NOTHING about ANYTHING

That's not what I was saying. In cases of the 'news' though it's really just a giant game of telephone mixed in with political and personal agendas so we shouldn't get too cocky in our pronouncements about so called 'facts' of past cases, etc. let alone use those to try and debunk current questions about current cases.

yes, but... then how would you ever progress from 'questions' to decisions? Yes the news is often wrong, it's shitty, I would much prefer we crowd funded a multi billion dollar operation to but fact finders on the ground everywhere and run something like factopedia, but it's not happening yet. Even then there are going to be various persons pushing alternative truths and some things just can never be known with absolute certainty.

how does maintaining an isolating paranoid world view that doesn't accept consensus on anything ever going to lead to courses of action that improve anything?

[justdrew]

adam lanza went amok and killed a lot of people including himself. just like a few people have very occasionally done since forever. OR EVERYONE IS LYING ABOUT EVERYTHING, it's all a charade! that is clinically delusional and only a fool would think so. sorry. sick to fucking death of these bullshit sandy hoax nut jobs. it's a sad sad pathetic shame we have to put up with such nonsense. absolutely complete credibility destroying nonsense bullshit psyop shitstorm. congratulations sandy hoaxers for finding a new low point in human civilization.

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is that a self portrait?

adam lanza went amok and killed a lot of people including himself.

[conniption]

adam lanza went amok and killed a lot of people including himself. just like a few people have very occasionally done since forever. OR EVERYONE IS LYING ABOUT EVERYTHING, it's all a charade! that is clinically delusional and only a fool would think so. sorry. sick to fucking death of these bullshit sandy hoax nut jobs. it's a sad sad pathetic shame we have to put up with such nonsense. absolutely complete credibility destroying nonsense bullshit psyop shitstorm. congratulations sandy hoaxers for finding a new low point in human civilization.

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is that a self portrait?

adam lanza went amok and killed a lot of people including himself.

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No. That's you.