Alice neoconservatism is not zionism.
One is one thing, the other is another thing.
They may work hand in hand, some people of one group may be in another, others are not members of both groups, but their interests coincide.
the bali bombing was done by a group called jamah islamia (sp?) who have close ties to al queda. No arabs among them actually. Indonesia has few muslims. Of course the relationship between Indonesia and Australia couldn't have any bearing on this could it?
Australian interference in east timor, a direct insult to an islamic nation - thats the quoted motivation in the Australian press, consistantly, has sweet fa to do with israel doesn't it. It simply plays on the tensions that have always existed between australia and indonesia.
And all this has nothing to do with the Project for a New American Century and its neocon blueprint for global domination, which has been implemented remarkably according to the plan.
So you are saying the PNAC agenda is a zionist one? Organised by Zionists for the major purpose of furthering Israel's expansion? All the rest is just a sideline? Yeah right.
just in time to justify draconian new measures of government control over ordinary people.
Yeah those draconian new laws in Australia are there simply to aid the expansion of Israel. No other reason, they know what a threat the Australians are to Israels agenda so its the first thing they needed to do.
You seem to equate all the evil in the world with "Zionism", which i just can't accept. Trying to tie it to the us by substituting "neo cons" for "zionist" willy nilly is not acceptable argument as far as I am concerned. You are claiming that the primary reason for the lurch to fascism since 911 is Zionism. I think thats a very near sighted view, unless you think Israel is about to take over the world, or perhaps already have, at least through their insidious allies "the Joos".
The picture in australia is clear, its not a join the dots isuue, and your attempt to make it one is a simplistic sketch that misses all the bits that are important. You have gone from dot 5 to dot 95 and missed the ones in between.
It doesn't matter whether you find my srguments persuasive or not to be honest. You don't live here, and don't have to deal with the particular circumstances here. Where you live Zionism is a rampant sore.
But it isn't responsible for the developing police state, and the looting of public assets that is happening here. (Or if it is say how.) It is another aspect of the ugly octopus like thing that pushes forward tentacles that people call zionist or neo con or any number of names. I think that was the original point of Jeffs argument in the op btw.
This attempt to attack democracy in australia for profit is served by the very things you claim zionism promotes.
In that context zionism is a useful idiot for something else. And not that significant a one.
I don't recall ever saying that Israel behaved ina pleasant manner, esp during the war last year. Nor have I ever said that Palestine is in great shape abd things should cntinue the way they are, just the opposite.
But zionism is not the root cause of the rest of the worlds evils. You continue to say it is. Neo conservatism isn't the root cause of the worlds evils either. Both are flourishing cos they suit a more powerful agneda.
But even it isn't the root cause of the worlds evils. (I don't know if any one thing is.)