JFK/RFK disinfo season: Funny assassin movie-You Kill Me

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0796375/plotsummary
You Kill Me (2007)



Speaking of the cross-marketing of counterpropaganda using psycho-political events....

I see a disinfotainment campaign to build up the meme 'lone gunman,' discredit hypnosis, and re-associate assassination itself with cities other than Dallas and LA as the 45th anniversary of JFK's murder and 40th anniversary of RFK's murder comes up in 2008.
Already disinfo books have come out by Mark Fuhrman and Vincent Bugliosi sowing lies.

NPR just did a show about the mind that included a dramatization of Ben Franklin debunking Mesmer's 'magnetism.' (RFK's patsy was hynoprogrammed to be at the right place and time while others did the killing.)

Two weeks ago we were told by local TV news that there was a plot to assassinate Dennis Kucinich back in 1978 when he was Mayor of Cleveland because he was preventing privitization of a local power plant.

A somebody yet unknown used a local mafia guy to hire a free-lance killer/police informant who spilled the story at a bar of how he was going to snipe at Kucinich from atop a tall building near K's regular cafe and then during an election victory parade which K. missed due to a medical emergencey.

But we were told about this 30 year-old plot..now.
Interesting timing.

Now here's a 'comedy' movie about an assassin hanging out in San Francisco plotting to return to Buffalo. Not even Italian mafia, Polish!

Gotta make it funny for the kids with the viral marketing of stereotype humor.
And the anti-hero is always a woman messing up a man's life in social-engineering movies. Bet that's the case in this one.

Convenient the way the imdb.com movie site is organized by keywords.

Plot keywords for
You Kill Me (2007)

* Support Group
* Mortuary
* Alcoholic
* San Francisco California
* Organized Crime
* Black Comedy
* Job Interview
* Loss Of Father
* Hit Man

[orz]

Convenient the way the imdb.com movie site is organized by keywords.

You'd almost think it was like they wanted people to be able to find out information about movies on there!

[Stephen Morgan]

You ever hear of "Heil, honey, I'm home"? Perhaps it helps to laugh at the evil.

[professorpan]

You'd almost think it was like they wanted people to be able to find out information about movies on there!

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

Convenient the way the imdb.com movie site is organized by keywords.

You'd almost think it was like they wanted people to be able to find out information about movies on there!

Why, orz. You actually noticed that the entire damn internet is organized around keywords as I hinted. Good boy!

And this supports my information on linguistic decoys called "keyword hijacking" which is a standard search engine commerce weapon and also medically-confirmed to have a role in memory bias.

And you ALSO confirmed my information on keyword hijacking when you accused me of somehow redefining it. In other words, you denied such a thing is done...by accusing me of doing it. Go ahead, shoot yourself in the intellectual foot again.

You're as bad a Professor Pan who insists that Hollywood couldn't possibly be mainly a division of CIA doing social engineering and counterpropaganda despite the Office of War Information writing the scripts during WWII.

[professorpan]

You're as bad a Professor Pan who insists that Hollywood couldn't possibly be mainly a division of CIA doing social engineering and counterpropaganda despite the Office of War Information writing the scripts during WWII.

Oh, naughty me, insisting on living within a reality-based world instead of one built around a half-baked, confirmation-bias-driven meta-conspiracy.

Hugh, you still never did get around to answering the responses to your "challenge" -- you must remember that challenge, the one you directed at orz, robertreed and myself? The one based on your irrefutable, positively undeniable example of KH?

Hmmm. I wonder why that is.

[philipacentaur]

Well, I hope the intelligence agencies don't back out now. I won't be able to find shit!

[Cosmic Cowbell]

I got bad news for ya Hugh...you been hijacked...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Hugh_Manatee

ROTFLMAO

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

"....jackoffing?" Gawd, pan, what are you, eight years old? Grow up.

You're as bad a Professor Pan who insists that Hollywood couldn't possibly be mainly a division of CIA doing social engineering and counterpropaganda despite the Office of War Information writing the scripts during WWII.

Oh, naughty me, insisting on living within a reality-based world instead of one built around a half-baked, confirmation-bias-driven meta-conspiracy.

Ah, the anti-conspiricism roll of the eyes. Chip Berlet does that, too.

What do you call the USG's efforts at coordinated psy-ops going on since WWII?
A "meta-conspiracy?" lol. Gee, they wouldn't really plan psy-ops, would they?
Are you at the right discussion board, pan? Y'see, we know history here.

And yet you claim to have studied all things psy-ops. And you have the nerve to scoff at a "meta-conspiracy?" Your inconsistency is...remarkable. And so I remark on it.

What do you call Presidential Decision Directive NSC-68 signed by Clinton on 4/30/99?
Read page 30 of this 57-page pdf article-

http://fas.org/irp/eprint/gough.pdf
(U. S. Army War College Strategy Research Project paper)

And all the many psy-ops campaigns from the Cold War on? Do I have to list them?

So you deny the history of the OWI? Why? It is documented. Explain your denial of history.

Hugh, you still never did get around to answering the responses to your "challenge" -- you must remember that challenge, the one you directed at orz, robertreed and myself? The one based on your irrefutable, positively undeniable example of KH?

I won't bore you with my personal life.

I could write a book on perception control around the US-Nazi issue...and I am.
Among other things.
I found out why Mossad grabbed Eichmann when they did.
And why Robert Condon wrote a Nazi-themed novel in 1964.
And why the bizarre show Hogan's Heroes was put on the air in 1965.
And why 'Indiana Jones' came out in 1981.
And why Tom Cruise is now portraying the 'good Nazi' and which movies used the same good vs bad justifier for Skull and Bones and CIA and when and why.

So I'm spending less time being pestered by eight year-old mentalities who don't believe in government psy-ops programs and who urge me to "try and prove it is not true" and who use the word "honest" the way that GWBush uses "freedom."

Especially since the Washington Post and NPR already took countermeasures on 4/2/07 against my expose of keyword hijacking. The WP Human Behavior column was some piffle about 'the decoy effect' that was spun into propaganda on choosing candidates.
Having exposed the White House's PR film company called 'The Johnson Group' trying to innoculate US school kids against Project Paperclip, I'm pretty sure that WP column was (appropriately) a keyword hijacking of....keyword hijacking.

Re: My recent harsh words about Dr. Mack, MKULTRA, and 'alien abductions.'
Tonight a guy in a restaurant started telling me about how he knew Mack personally and he was an ok guy. And he gave me his card in case I wanted to find an agent for my book. How's that for a "coincidence?" *PING*

Besides, you helped make my case in your several flailing around responses in that Eichmann thread. It is called 'forestalling' and you fell for it.

[professorpan]

"....jackoffing?" Gawd, pan, what are you, eight years old? Grow up.

Okay, then, how does "confirmation-bias-driven masturbation" sound?

You're as bad a Professor Pan who insists that Hollywood couldn't possibly be mainly a division of CIA doing social engineering and counterpropaganda despite the Office of War Information writing the scripts during WWII.

You are correct -- I don't believe Hollywood is "mainly a division of CIA." But I do believe that the CIA has some control over certain people in Hollywood. The difference in our thinking, my good manatee, is in the extent of the alleged control. You posit a level of control that is based upon what you believe exists from your reading and your creative search for confirmatory evidence. The actual evidence -- evidence that can be verified by independent analysis -- is completely lacking. One can only "agree" with you if one does not require objective proof. Anyone who puts your theory to the test will find it to be all sound and fury, and little more.

Ah, the anti-conspiricism roll of the eyes. Chip Berlet does that, too.
What do you call the USG's efforts at coordinated psy-ops going on since WWII?
A "meta-conspiracy?"

There's no eye-rolling involved. I've posted extensively about PSYOPS both here and on my blog and elsewhere over the years. What I don't believe are your fanciful concoctions.

And yet you claim to have studied all things psy-ops. Any you have the nerve to scoff at a "meta-conspiracy?" Your inconsistency is...remarkable. And so I remark on it.

I'm not quite sure of your point. One can believe in PSYOPS and conspiracies without ascribing to your particular vision. So I don't see any inconsistencies here.

What do you call Presidential Decision Directive NSC-68 signed by Clinton on 4/30/99?

The establishment of a clandestine propaganda factory by executive fiat.

And all the many psy-ops campaigns from the Cold War on?

I call them "the many psyops campaigns from the Cold War on."

So you deny the history of the OWI? Why? It is documented. Explain your denial of history.

Why would I deny the history of the OWI? I never even mentioned it. You're once again putting statements in my mouth that I never made.

I wrote:

Hugh, you still never did get around to answering the responses to your "challenge" -- you must remember that challenge, the one you directed at orz, robertreed and myself? The one based on your irrefutable, positively undeniable example of KH?

To which you replied:

I won't bore you with my personal life.

I've never asked about your personal life. You issued a challenge, and I answered, and you swam away into the depths of the lagoon with nary a snort. But just to refresh your memory, the thread is here:

Here

I took your challenge. The proper thing to do is give it a considered response. Or just admit it was a cheap shot.

Hey, we all have lives beyond the RI board. I have a family, a job, and plenty of hobbies. I'm putting the finishing touches on a novel that I'm sure you'll decree was commissioned by the CIA when it hits the shelves

But if I issued a challenge, I'd answer my challengees. Better late than never.

I could write a book on perception control around the US-Nazi issue...and I am. Among other things.

Cool. I will buy it.

So I'm spending less time being pestered by eight year-old mentalities who don't believe in government psy-ops programs and who urge me to "try and prove it is not true" and who use the word "honest" the way that GWBush uses "freedom."

I believe in government psyops programs. I do urge you to put your theories to the test by testing them -- it's called critical thinking.

But comparing me to George Bush is just ugly and mean. I thought better of you, Hugh.

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

I thought better of you, Hugh.

Ok, not I'm going to demand some proof.

[orz]

Why, orz. You actually noticed that the entire damn internet is organized around keywords as I hinted. Good boy!

NO, i noticed that implying there's something suspicious about imdb using -gasp- KEYWORDS is hilarious.

And this supports my information on linguistic decoys called "keyword hijacking" which is a standard search engine commerce weapon

Yes, it's a standard search engine commerce weapon which HAS A TOTALLY DIFFERENT MEANING TO WHAT YOU USE THE TERM FOR. IE as i've stated many times before, YOU HAVE KEYWORD-HIJACKED THE TERM 'KEYWORD HIJACKING'!

[brownzeroed]

HUGH MANATEE WROTE:

Convenient the way the imdb.com movie site is organized by keywords.

ORZ:

You'd almost think it was like they wanted people to be able to find out information about movies on there!

The Internet Movie Database (IMDB) was originally intended as grass-roots alternative to Industry-based books like Ephraim Katz' Film Encyclopedia. It was an in-house way of checking up on who did what, in what capacity, on what film (Like a quick access, online resume). When "average citizens" happened upon it, it became a hugely popular site for film buffs and folks with an unquenchable appetite for trivial information. This was not the original intention. IMDB has since been superceded by personal websites (reels, resumes and otherwise) because costs have gone WAY down to manage one's own website - in the past 7 odd years. Now it's just a vanity project for studios, distributors, agents and wannabees. Even some of the crap I've worked on is there.

I think ORZ is right on this one, HUGH. I think your over reaching. You have to understand - and this is coming from someone who works in this shit hole - that "Hollywood" is a self-contained, self serving, INTERNATIONAL entity that only caters to the highest bidder. In some cases, that would definitely be nefarious interests paid for by American tax payers. A lot of times not. Now I would never deny that spooks in the CIA ,or whomever, are trying to influence that outcome but I think your overestimating their success rate. Which I honestly believe plays into their hand. They would love to be seen as an all powerful, omniscient uber-organization. But they do fuck up. A lot.

When it comes to big budget war movies? No doubt. you have to please the Pentagon to have all the big toys but otherwise, it's anyone's game. A guy like Michael Bay is definitely a tool of the Oligarchs. Stanley Kubrick was not. But they both draw in a bong-load of dinero. That's the game.
I would just assume that any HUGE production is catering to the corporate lie (because they do have a lot of cash) but those films are few in number compared most of the industry's output. Which is mostly shit, but that's another thread. If anything, movies are more of a barometer to ascertain the state of our culture, itself, then to see it as the driving force. When it comes to "Hollywood" it's best to remember the old axiom, "A capitalist will sell you the rope that hangs him". That's ugly enough. Also, when it comes to Corporations and the CIA, try to remember not to get the hand and the leash mixed-up. The CIA would be the "tool" in that shed. It wasn't the Gestapo that ran Germany. It would be guys with names like Thyssen, Borman and Krupp. Not to mention Herriman, Morgan, Vanderbilt and Bush...

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

Why, orz. You actually noticed that the entire damn internet is organized around keywords as I hinted. Good boy!

NO, i noticed that implying there's something suspicious about imdb using -gasp- KEYWORDS is hilarious.

What made you think I implied anything suspicious about imdb using keywords?
EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE was my point.
I was pointing out that keyword indexing is STANDARD on the internet and this is why keyword hijacking is used to redirect traffic, something you refuse to acknowledge.

And this supports my information on linguistic decoys called "keyword hijacking" which is a standard search engine commerce weapon

Yes, it's a standard search engine commerce weapon which HAS A TOTALLY DIFFERENT MEANING TO WHAT YOU USE THE TERM FOR. IE as i've stated many times before, YOU HAVE KEYWORD-HIJACKED THE TERM 'KEYWORD HIJACKING'!
[/quote]

Again, you're saying such a thing isn't done...because I did it. Hysterical.

I'm reminded of a certain interrogation technique called 'Alice in Wonderland.'

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

I think ORZ is right on this one, HUGH. I think your over reaching. ..

Back up, brownzeroed, orz led you down a path that I was not even taking.

See my post above. My point is that keyword indexing is the dominant indexing tool on the internet and working it to redirect traffic is only to be expected, something orz won't admit.