Questioning Consciousness

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Re: Questioning Consciousness

Postby Jerky » Tue Feb 06, 2018 1:04 pm

Indeed. Rich food for thought.
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Re: Questioning Consciousness

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Re: Questioning Consciousness

Postby Pele'sDaughter » Wed Feb 07, 2018 9:20 am

Regarding "infections" and "viruses", yes, we are infected. We're infected with a virus "lies" which is spread through the program "language". The program with it's virus is installed through domestication programming and then spread through language. By becoming aware of our thoughts and actions, we gain the ability to mitigate the effects of the virus and gain full or at least partial immunity. That depends on the level of awareness and the commitment to make the effort to eliminate domestication filters. Ruiz did a great job of expressing this in The Four Agreements. So, regardless of the origin of the "parasite", we're only victims if we fail to achieve awareness.
Don't believe anything they say.
And at the same time,
Don't believe that they say anything without a reason.
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Re: Questioning Consciousness

Postby dada » Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:14 pm

Yes, the lie is a virus. But the language program itself is also a virus. Ideas are virus as well, with varying infectious potential.

These are viruses we can see under a standard microscope in our astrolabe. But what about subtle, smaller viruses? Under the inner electron-microscope, we can see that duality (and it's symptom, 'relative truth'), time, historical-gravity, free-will, even 'rational thought' itself, all behave like viruses.

Is it possible to even function without some of these viruses? I would say yes. They're only signifying, metaphorical, representative viruses. The question itself is just silly.

And anyway, as we see with the memory virus that infected us ten million years ago or whatever: all viruses are not necessarily bad for us. Love is a virus. People infected with love do amazing things. Crazy things. Stupid, stupid things. Well, maybe that's a bad example.

The question is, what is it that becomes infected by these viruses? I would suggest it is meaning that is infected. Image is virus, and meaning is host. So keep your meaning-immune system strong and healthy.
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Re: Questioning Consciousness

Postby chump » Sat Feb 17, 2018 9:48 am



via a post on the previous page:

http://gurdjieff-bibliography.com/Curre ... -07-03.pdf
… “ It is impossible to study a system of the universe without studying man. At the same time, it is impossible to study man without studying the universe. Man is an image of the world. He was created by the same laws which created the whole of the world. By knowing and understanding himself, he will know and understand the whole world, all the laws that create and govern the world. And at the same time, by studying the world and the laws that govern the world, he will learn and understand the laws which govern him. . . . The study of the world and the study of man must therefore run parallel, the one helping the other.”2
George Gurdjieff


I portend and appreciate the planet we inhabit was probably present before I was plopped and will probably be here when my bones are buried. Sometimes I wondered when I was younger if I, myself, had already passed … that poignant point of no repass... a little alone, but maybe not quite - like a scene in the movies,The Sixth Sense, or Ghost.

Now in my 60’s, I see a system unsurely evolved from lots and lots of repeated practice...

So. in my opnion this poignant post by the regal Prince Ray is well worth reading... As sort of a side-note, psycho-acoustics sounds like a study we should consider - because, best I recall in my boney skull, our big brains bathe in a (cerebralspinal) briny sea - (probably) providing a perfect path for electrical frequencies to affect our feelings and field of reference...


From the beginning:


https://mindcontrolblackassassins.com/2 ... -universe/

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Phoenix, Fire & Benben Stone


… The Phoenix is neither Greek nor Roman mythology. It is very deep ancient African (Shithole) cosmology that we shall discuss further in detail. Nevertheless to begin with the Benben Stone was the up thrust (explosive) sacred stone of Heliopolis; benu (bennu) describes a bird (The Phoenix) that was an important avian deity. Originally of solar associations, the Benu bird came to be connected with three important gods consisting of Atum, Re and Ashur (Osiris). As an aspect of God Atum, the Benu bird was said to have flown over the waters of Nun before the original creation. According to this tradition, the bird came to rest on a rock from which its cry broke the primeval silence and this determined what was and what was not to be in the unfolding creation.[11]

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London Olympics, Phoenix Landing from the Conical Benben Stone


If you believe that Shithouse Benu Bird (Phoenix) and Benben Stone was a foregone passing occult fancy of British intelligence, think again. The concept was a major theme in the closing ceremonies of the 2012 London Summer Olympics.[12]


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Lewinite refers to Dr. Kurt Lewin, a German Kabbalah-Zohar Jewish Frankfurt School refugee who had been brought to the U.S. by the Rockefeller family. He joined Tavistock Clinic or Institute sometime about 1946. Author Jim Keith, who died in mysterious circumstances, has written:


“Lewin is credited with much of the original Tavistock research into mass brainwashing applying the results of repeated trauma and torture (of individuals) in mind control to society at large.”[13]


At Atlantic Records, Scepter
thru its agents Theo Adorno and Thomas John “Tom” Dowd had controlled its sound studios since it was founded in 1947. It earned a reputation as one of the most important American recording labels, specializing in Jazz, R&B and soul recordings by Black musicians including Donny Hathaway, John Coltrane, Aretha Franklin, Ray Charles, Sam and Dave, Ruth Brown, Otis Reading, and so many others. For black artists, signing with major recording labels was a literal pact with the DEVIL.


Atlantic Records’[/b] business partner, Jerry Wexler, was a son of Polish and German Ashkenazi Kabbalah -Zohar Jews.  According to Wexler, Atlantic was in the business of Luciferian Shitholing “taking the gospel songs and putting the devil’s words to them.” They weren’t representing Black culture, but a self-destructive Black sub-culture in violation of our human rights. They were promoting icons that spoke for society’s underbelly: unrestrained sexuality, violence, and drugs.[14]


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In 1967, Atlantic Records became a wholly owned subsidiary of Warner Bros.-Seven Arts.[15] Since 1989, it is a subsidiary of Time Warner, formed as a merger between the conglomerates Time, Inc. and Warner Communications.[16]


Theo Adorno was a Frankfurt School and Tavistock musicologist scholar involved in musical research. Adorno was interested in perverting the aesthetics of mass culture, as a part of a social engineering strategy through criticism, particularly music. The path of so-called pop culture and its subculture associates which emerged in the 1960s was shaped in significant part by Adorno. Perhaps the best known propaganda works of Adorno are The Authoritarian Personality, Dialectic of Enlightenment and Negative Dialectics.


Both Tavistock and the Frankfurt School paid close attention to Nazi Third Reich propaganda techniques, which they willingly incorporated into their research. The aim of the project, as stated in (Theodore) Adorno’s “Introduction to the Sociology of Music,”… was to “program a mass culture as a form of extensive social control that would steadily degrade [Shithole] its consumers.”[17]…


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… At age 18, Thomas John “Tom” Dowd was drafted into the military with the rank of sergeant. He continued his work in physics at Columbia University. Refugees from National Socialist - Nazi Germany, the Frankfurt School changed venue and moved to Columbia University in New York City in 1934. The U.S. Office of Scientific Research and Development (OSRD) recruited heavily from Columbia for the Manhattan Project. The OSRD was also interested in psychology and psycho-acoustics.[19]


Psychoacoustics is essentially the study of the perception of sound. This includes how we listen, our psychological responses, and the physiological impact of music and sound on the human nervous system. Psychoacoustics involves music - sound, frequency, and vibration.[20] In physics, sound is a vibration that typically propagates as an audible wave of pressure, through a transmission medium such as a gas, liquid or solid.[21] The vibratory nature of matter is mentioned in the Bible.  John’s Gospel starts with “In the beginning was the Word…” (John 1:1) and teaches us that this vibration is from God, and is God Himself. The ”Word” in this verse is the Greek word “logos”. We know that speech means not just any kind of a vibration, but a vibration that carries information, is uttered by a living person and embodies a concept or an idea. In this case, it means that the living Creator, our Father God, created an intelligent vibration which then created everything else. The new theory named “The Geometric Concept of Matter”, confirms that matter is a vibratory structure and explains that what we know as gravity is a direct consequence of that particular vibration.[22]…

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Dr. Andrija Puharich was known as a brilliant, but notorious CIA MK ULTRA/MONARCH (subproject 58) medical physician and electronics expert consultant.[23] In 1990, Dr. Puharich found a way to split water molecules by tuning in on the vibrations of their atoms and breaking the molecules into hydrogen, which could become fuel, and oxygen. A former   physician, Puharich discovered the water-splitting technique a dozen years ago but has only recently presented his findings publicly. Originally, he was investigating the Psychoacoustic DISRUPTIVE EFFECT of electrical resonances on blood clots and noticed a peculiar thing: in dilute blood, a SPECIFIC FREQUENCY made bubbles appear in the liquid. Lab analysis showed that the bubbles were composed of oxygen and hydrogen. A barrel-shaped cavity contains the water in Puharich’s recently refined system.  He introduces alternating current at A KEY FREQUENCY of 600 cycles per second.


The cavity resonates with the impulses in somewhat the same way the body of a violin resonates with the sound of one string, ADDING HIGHER AND LOWER HARMONICS TO THE PRINCIPAL TONE. The additional harmonics, Puharich says, cause the proton in the hydrogen atom TO ROTATE, further forcing the hydrogen to split from the oxygen.[24]


In 2014 for the first time, scientists captured the sound a single atom makes when it moves. They found the atom makes a “D-note,” about 20 octaves above the highest note on the piano and a pitch inaudible to the human ear.[25] Musical notes in ancient Kemet were regarded as spiritual elements, and were conceived as independent structural entities.[26] D is a musical note a whole tone above C, and is known as Re.[27]


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The nearest concept or element to that of “justice” in Kemet (Africa) is the notion of MA-AT, which is personified as a goddess, the daughter of Atum, and after the 18th dynasty as the daughter of RE, who establishes MA-AT at the time of creation.[28]


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If vibration is a source of creation, pursuant to Knights of the Black Sun’s Satanic Principle of Dualism, opposite of creation vibration are destruction, ruin and end. OSRD’s S-1 Section later became the Manhattan Project and developed the first atomic weapons.[29] Dowd worked on the Manhattan Project. He planned to obtain a degree in nuclear physics when he completed his work on the Manhattan Project. However, because his work was top secret, the university did not recognize it, and Dowd decided not to continue, since the university’s curriculum would not have been able to further his physics education. His research for the military was more advanced than academic courses at that time.[30]


The question is why were Scepter (Global Satanic Cabal), Adorno (International Social Scientist), and Dowd (Top Secret Nuclear Scientist) so deeply mixing in the kool- aide of Black Folk Music if it is out of Shithouse Africa, and amounts to no little more than the spontaneous singing of servant girls? If it was such archaic-primitive self-expressions “the music of slaves”, it would die a natural death. So, you would seem to believe…

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…Kemet, Creation of the Universe

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God Atum (Atom)


“We are the gods of the atoms that make up ourselves, but we are also the atoms of the gods that make up the universe.”
– 33 degree Freemason Manly P. Hall

The African God Atum is the most ancient secret “Science of the Atom.”


... (lot more to learn at the link above)



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Via a related RI region:

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Psychic Parasites, Inter-Dimensional Beings and the Occult Elite


“Know thyself and you will know the Universe and the Gods”– Delphi Oracle...

While some may axiomatically recoil at the thought of living in an illusory, mentally projected world and being relegated to indentured servant status by a ruling Elite, whether machine-like or not, the truth is that the Matrix analogy fits quite nicely with our current day reality (see David Bohm’s, Wholeness and the Implicate Order). The only slight differential, as far as I can tell, is the fact we are our own slave masters as it is we who build and sustain our own prison cells. This highly regrettable state of affairs is deftly encapsulated in the following quote taken from the film My Conversation with Andre:

“I think that New York is the new model for the new concentration camp. Where the camp has been built by the inmates themselves and the inmates are the guards and they have this pride in this thing they built- they’ve built their own prison. And so they exist in a state of schizophrenia where they are both guards and prisoners and as a result they no longer have, having been lobotomized, the capacity to leave the prison they’ve made or to even see it as a prison.”


... Parts of Ourselves

After much subterranean excavating, we are now closer to uncovering that diamond in the rough. In the end, after extensively comparing and contrasting many different subject fields, we come upon the discovery that it is mythology juxtaposed against the backdrop of psychology that gives us some of the deepest insights. When straying outside the organized dogmatic ecclesiastical orthodox domain of religion we uncover an idea that dovetails perfectly with what mythology and psychology yield. This is the notion that all the gods, demons, heavens and hells are located within man himself. Whether it is the Indian Tantric tradition, the teachings of the ancient Mystery Schools, Dante’s Divine Comedy, Schopenhauer’s philosophy of the world as Will and Idea, the religious texts of the Upanishads, the beliefs of the Ashaninca, or even the Bible where it is said in Luke 17:20-21 that the Kingdom of God is within you, we stumble upon this introspective apprehension of all mythic forms.

As Joseph Campbell conveyed in his work Creative Mythology:

“All the gods are within, within you, within the world.”


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Opening the Gates of Hell

It is important to understand and stress that when these gods are suppressed they turn into veritable demons.

Quoting again from Dr. Jung in his work The Archetypes and the Collective Unconscious we find the following:

“We also know that it is dangerous to suppress it, because the unconscious is life and this life turns against us if suppressed, as happens in neurosis.”

As a result of this suppression of the instinctual roots of the unconscious, the world is now engulfed in the flames of psychosis as a psychic split has emerged within the collective consciousness of humanity. Thus our current impasse is a function of sheer insanity. This is a world in which we are all being paganized, brutalized, sexualized, and debased in what is this Nigredo phase of the Alchemical Great Work; a world in which we are literally being fed on by a Force. We hear it everyday. Incessant, relentless chatter about how our leaders (or rather misleaders) are completely mad and how everything around us is inverted, corrupted, and perverted. As Michael Ellner, the author of Hope is Realistic, writes:

“Just look at us. Everything is backwards, everything is upside down. Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, psychiatrists destroy minds, scientists destroy truth, major media destroys information, religions destroy spirituality and governments destroy freedom.”

As an interesting side note, look at how Dr. Jung medically defines the term “insanity”:

“Insanity is possession by an unconscious content”- Dr. Carl Jung, Alchemical Studies

Hmm… Possession. Where have we heard that before? Oh yeah:

“It is from this process of “possession” by the reptilians and other low vibrational entities that we have the ancient tales, indeed modern ones too, of demons, devils and evil spirits taking over a human mind and body.”
- David Icke, The Biggest Secret.

“For thousands of years, humanity has been increasingly mind-possessed, failing to recognize the possessing entity as “not-self”.”
- Eckhart Tolle, A New Earth

“It’s more like being possessed… It’s like they have an agenda… It’s got such a distinct flavor, the reptilian being or beings that are present.”
– Dr. Rick Strassman, M.D. quoting DMT volunteer in DMT The Spirit Molecule

(…more at the link above)
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Re: Questioning Consciousness

Postby dada » Sun Feb 18, 2018 12:38 am

"The aim of the project, as stated in (Theodore) Adorno’s “Introduction to the Sociology of Music,”… was to “program a mass culture as a form of extensive social control that would steadily degrade its consumers.”[17]

Neither this quote, nor anything remotely like it can be found in Adorno's Introduction to the sociology of Music. You can search the book yourself. Or peruse at your leisure:

https://archive.org/stream/theodor-w-adorno-introduction-to-the-sociology-of-music-1976#page/n0/mode/2up

I recommend it.

Footnote [17] leads to another connect-the-dots style article, that doesn't mention Adorno or his book.

I'm just saying, don't believe everything you read.

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So, Jazz is mass mindcontrol torture designed by Tavistock?

Jazz isn't "representing Black culture, but a self-destructive Black sub-culture in violation of our human rights. They were promoting icons that spoke for society’s underbelly: unrestrained sexuality, violence, and drugs."

How is Jazz a sub-culture in violation of our human rights? Is that what evil Jazz is all about, unrestrained sexuality, violence and drugs?

I suppose I'm to conclude that Jazz the musical form, the progressions, these are mathematical metaphysical tools of mindcontrol, from the ancient secret society of Atum. And Sun Ra is the illuminati pope.



I don't mean to be argumentative. I'm genuinely curious what point is being made. I'd like to grasp the Jazz angle, here.

And it's not that I don't think psycho-acoustics is worth looking into. But at this point, I'm not so much interested in the subject for purposes of manipulation, as for self-experimentation.

thanks. eagerly awaiting your reply,
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Re: Questioning Consciousness

Postby chump » Sun Feb 18, 2018 5:17 pm

Indeed…


Thanks for taking the time to tell me this.


Briefly (because I'm busy). I searched for that sentence and failed to to find it... though “mass control” was mentioned three times.


Prince Ray was probably quoting Eric Karlstrom, Henry Makow or someone else, who included the “quote” in previous posts.


I suppose my point is propaganda in music may move the masses by 'affecting our feelings and field of reference'.


Fwiw, I did find this in the PDF:


In 1963, the Beatles arrived in the United States, and with their decisive airing on the Ed Sullivan Show, the "British sound" took off in the U.S.A. For their achievement, the four rocksters were awarded the Order of the British Empire by Her Majesty the Queen. The Beatles and the Animals, Rolling Stones, and homicidal punk rock maniacs who followed were, of course, no more a spontaneous outpouring of alienated youth than was the acid culture they accompanied.


A social theory of rock was elaborated by musicologist Theodor Adorno, who came to the United States in 1939 to head the Princeton University Radio Research Project. 17 Adorno writes: "In an imaginary but psychologically emotion-laden domain, the listener who remembers a hit song will turn into the song's ideal subject, into the person for whom the song ideally speaks. At the same time, as one of many who identify with that fictitious subject, that musical I, he will feel his isolation ease as he himself feels integrated into the community of "fans." In whistling such a song he bows to a ritual of socialization, although beyond this unarticulated subjective stirring of the moment his isolation continues unchanged . . . The comparison with addiction is inescapable. Addicted conduct generally has a social component: it is one possible reaction to the atomization which, as sociologists have noticed, parallels the compression of the social network. Addiction to music on the part of a number of entertainment listeners would be a similar phenomenon." 18


The hit parade is organized precisely on the same principles used by Egypt's Isis priesthood and for the same purpose: the recruitment of youth to the dionysiac counterculture.



17 Theodor Adorno was a leading professor of the Frankfurt School of Social Research in Germany, founded by the British Fabian Society. A collaborator of twelve-tone formalist and British intelligence operative Arnold Schoenberg, Adorno was brought to the United States in 1939 to head the Princeton Radio Research Project. The aim of this project, as stated in Adorno's Introduction to the Sociology of Music, was to program a mass "musical" culture that would steadily degrade its consumers. Punk rock is, in the most direct sense, the ultimate result of Adorno's work.

18 Theodor Adorno, Introduction to the Sociology of Music (New York: Seabury Press, 1976)...



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Re: Questioning Consciousness

Postby American Dream » Sun Feb 18, 2018 6:32 pm

No offense intended to those beyond the truly culpable but some of the above is essentially Lyndon LaRouche, as channeled by Prince Ray (who is kinda wack and who pulls lots of stuff out of his ass), then adding various flawed sources to the mix. There are some kernels of truth in there about Adorno and Lewin but the overall narrative is highly misleading. Makow and Karlstrom are if anything even more reactionary, bigoted and not reality-based, etc.
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Re: Questioning Consciousness

Postby thrulookingglass » Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:06 pm

I can't disagree enough with this biblical/religious analysis of culture that I'm finding here, and these suppositions that jazz albums are satanic or kabalistic Jews run the recording industry with the elaborate ruse to enslave us to our hedonistic ways of lusting after women and worshipping violence. Perhaps if you could explain to me how drowning people to death because of their sins is righteous and true. The bible is hypocritical of itself in that it says if someone should slap your right cheek, give them the left as well, yet puts forth the idea of eternal torment and torture for your actions will somehow bring about righteousness. Here are your options in that case, be tortured or find comfort in that that offers up torture to those vile wicked sinners. These are CRUEL and UNUSUAL punishments and I vehemently stand against them. I've seen what such cruelty in this world leads to and I've seen what shunning people because they are of a different religious philosophy has drawn forth (think concentration camp, destruction of the native americans). As I said, cast no law in stone, it makes you course, hard and cold. Propaganda. Mind-poison. I hate the idea that sexuality, in and of itself is sinful. I am made to feel guilty about wanting something that is pleasurable, free and a natural act. I'd love to be one of the animals of this world that has no such stigma enforced upon it by the odd beliefs put forth by ancient man. Dolphins are known to enjoy sexual promiscuity if you will and there are at least nine species know to engage in self pleasuring or fellatio. I will not call it 'masturbation' any more as it means to defile oneself! Imagine that, killing a bunch of insubordinate Iraqis, well your a hero, rubbing one off to Playboy, well you deserve eternal torment in the pits of hell. Jazz albums reflect the ghetto life style that racist, sexist oppression offered the 'emancipated' slaves here in America. Has any given Billie Holiday's epic 'Strange Fruit' a listen recently? I guess the Beatles, 'All You Need Is Love" is just a satanic chant?! In Josh Ritter's driving single 'getting ready to get down', there's a lyric "Jesus hates your high school dances...", the old Footloose motive, those disgusting youths and their libidinous ways. What a crime. Mind pollution, this idea of manipulative, unseen satanic forces is a mind virus meant to poison consciousness itself. It is complete 'thought police' scenario as offered up by Orwell. What punishment is right?! Who is a 'righteous torturer'?! Do doctors always destroy health? Do lawyers always destroy justice? What justice is their in our system of crime and punishment?! It is the failings of society to provide adequate care for anyone that leads people to a life of crime. Quite frankly, it's all stealing. This world should be a common treasury for all and none should be allowed to poke a flag in it and claim it as their own and derive a profit from it. This is a polluted architect of all terror and fleecing that exists amongst us is that we cannot all share this world for common good and is humanities greatest atrocity. Borders only appear on maps, not on this earth. I love how the bible always says, give to the poor. Now, much as I might agree that they deserve our pity, it is the fact that 'the poor' exist in the first place that is the real crime for it speaks of injustice inherent in society already that there be people in need! Ananias and Sapphira are put to death for withholding money, but don't fight evil with evil. What wicked punishments shall we put each other to? Wicked punishments make sinners of us all. I'm sick of hearing about this reptilian satanic agenda amongst us. We're all throwing darts at each other, your a wicked pervert masturbator and you will be punished. It was the demonization of sexuality itself that lead to it's perversion. Why is cannabis use criminal, because society or the assumed powers that be decided it was immoral. And at the time they used arguments that black jazz musicians and artists were using it and it was allowing them to defile white women. Please, some rationality in this human race would be greatly welcomed. Sexism (God the Father, never is he female) came forth out of biblical teachings, or at least a practiced belief in them. I recently read of a poor girl in India who lost her life because she was placed in a period hut due to the fact that she was menstruating and the conditions in this place of punishment lead to her death. This is disgusting behavior and the more we treat sexuality as a crime the more filthy it becomes. I hate even going on these rants anymore. Some world of manipulations we've created for each other. If you get a chance, please listen to Solomon Burke's song "one of us in chains, none of us are free." Jeesh, I hate that name even. That sweet biblical god that's going to redeem us all from sin left Solomon absolutely insane and addled in thought, they say he ambled into the dessert and was never seen again, screwed over Joan of Arc and Rasputin as well. Some story we write for each other.
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Re: Questioning Consciousness

Postby dada » Mon Feb 19, 2018 10:44 am

propaganda in music may move the masses by 'affecting our feelings and field of reference'.


Yes, that's what propaganda attempts to do, whether in music or otherwise.

I was reading in the Introduction to the Sociology of Music, the section around the quote that begins, "In an imaginary but psychologically emotion-laden domain..." It's a critique of pop music. Really ripping into it. I think he's good at what he does.

I find this aura of nefariousness around Adorno to be funny. Schoenberg, too. ("...twelve-tone formalist and British intelligence operative Arnold Schoenberg") I don't know he was a British Intelligence operative.

The wiki sayeth: "With the rise of the Nazi Party, Schoenberg's works were labelled degenerate music, because they were modernist, atonal and what Paul Hindemith even called "sonic orgies" and "decadent intellectual efforts"

So, it was the nazis that found Schoenberg's music to be degenerate. I hear they didn't like Jazz, either.

Culture-changing ideas can be frightening, that doesn't mean they're bad. But I think the dionysian counterculture we see is not the true dionysian counterculture. The true dionysian counterculture has always worked in secret, hidden in plain sight.
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Re: Questioning Consciousness

Postby American Dream » Mon Feb 19, 2018 11:04 am

CHECK IT OUT:



Ishmael Reed and the Psychic Epidemic
by Terry on June 19, 2011

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In times of social turblulence men like you abandon reason and fall back on Mumbo Jumbo.

“I was there,” PaPa LaBas declares, “a private eye practicing in my Neo-HooDoo therapy center named by my critics Mumbo Jumbo Kathedral….I was a jacklegged detective of the metaphysical who was on the case, and in 1920 there was a crucial case.”

Published in 1972, Ishmael Reed’s novel Mumbo Jumbo triangulates between New Orleans, New York City, and Haiti, with a long excursion into the mythology and history of ancient Egypt. Reed (born in 1938) takes aim at white cultural superiority and white cultural entitlement. As the novel opens, a “psychic epidemic” called Jes Grew is sweeping through the American South, headed toward New York. Originally a reference to the ragtime music of Scott Joplin and others (music that “jes’ grew”), Reed’s Jes Grew is an umbrella for all types of African-based art, including jazz, blues, and popular dances like the Cakewalk, along with the work of black painters and black writers.

Jes Grew, the Something or Other that led Charlie Parker to scale the Everests of the Chord. Riff fly skid dip soar and gave his Alto Godspeed. Jes Grew that touched John Coltrane’s Tenor; that tinged the voice of Otis Redding…


At the risk of gravely oversimplifying matters, Mumbo Jumbo is cast as an eternal struggle between Apollonian and Dionysian forces, between the empirical and the occult. It posits a lifeless, fearful white culture, based upon “the Classics, the achievements of mankind which began in Greece,” ruthlessly dominating a vibrant and sensual black culture originating in the northern Africa of ancient Egypt. In one of the book’s more amusing digressions, a small group of devotees make plans to liberate all non-Western art from American and European museums and repatriate the objects to their original countries. (The Metropolitan Museum of Art is referred to as the Center for Art Detention because of all the non-white art held in captivity there.) But just as Jes Grew threatens to overtake New York and the entire nation in with its contagious rhythm, a mysterious group called the Wallflower Order, descended from the Knights Templar, arises to defend white civilization against “the black tide of mud,” as Freud called such occultism.

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Unfortunately, Jes Grew is lacking the one element required for its continued survival: a crucial text written in ancient Egypt, handed down through the ages, and now missing. PaPa LaBas’ job is to find this Text before Jes Grew is once again suppressed by the white man. His Grail-like search ultimately points to the Text being hidden beneath the dance floor of Harlem’s famous Cotton Club, but by the end of the novel we learn that the Text has been maliciously burned by its last owner.

Is this the end of Jes Grew?
Jes Grew has no end and no beginning. It even precedes that little ball that exploded 1000000000s of years ago and led to what we are now. Jes Grew may even have caused the ball to explode. We will miss it for a while but it will come back, and when it returns we will see that it never left. You see, life will never end; there really is no end to life, if anything goes it will be death. Jes Grew is life.


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George Herriman, frame from Krazy Kat

In formal terms, Mumbo Jumbo makes some use of the tools of both Beat literature and Postmodern writing. Its pages are replete with Capitalized Words, contrarian spelling (Kongress, Kathedral, Kapitol), the ubiquitous use of cardinal numbers (“1000000s” instead of millions), parenthetical authorial comments (each signed “I.R.”), and the frequent use of context-specific typography. But Mumbo Jumbo is closer kin to the world of noir writers like Raymond Chandler and James M. Cain, the detective and gangster films of the 1930s and 1940s, the comic book (especially George Herriman’s Krazy Kat), and outsider art.

Earline rose from her seat and walks, swinging her hips, down the aisle of the trolley car. She gives him a look the nature of which would force a man to divorce his wife, sell his home, hang around the blood bank, offer his skin for grafting, donate his eyes to an alligator, hit the banker on the head to give her what she wanted.


The text of Mumbo Jumbo is embedded with charts, handwritten texts, and a variety of repurposed images, including photographs. Reed’s use of photography will be the subject of a future post.


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Re: Questioning Consciousness

Postby chump » Mon Feb 19, 2018 12:57 pm

Thanks for the rambling rant, man! Don’t know the reason I disagree.

I hear ya, AD. But disagree.

No disrespect. Seriously. I rarely read Henry because he seems to discredit some reasonable research writing in circles. You know... you get the gestalt you're gonna get... reminding me of some of the members here... Sometimes, I'll learn a lot from a post you plop - and sorta understand and respect your position.

But, I seriously respect what Prince Ray has to say - and try not take it too seriously:

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Then, there's the kooks who call me crazy!

Now, part of this article by Carlstrom still presents a plausible synopsis of the some of the causes of mass psychosis…

For instance:

http://911nwo.com/?p=3991
In his national bestseller, “Blowback,” author Christopher Simpson wrote: “After World War II, Nazi émigrés were given CIA subsidies to build a far-right power base in the U.S. These Nazis assumed prominent positions in the Republican Party’s ethnic outreach committees.” These Nazis did not come to America as individuals but as part of organized groups with fascist political agendas. The Nazi agenda did not die along with Adolf Hitler. It moved to America (or a part of it did) and joined the far right of he Republican Party.”


From Richard Helms, a future CIA director and Dulles liaison man to Wehrmacht intelligence chief General Reinhard Gehlen to CIA director William Colby, who received his training as the OSS Special Operations officer from the SOE in London, the list of interlocking Rockefeller-Nazi-Tavistock interests is endless. The Tavistock techniques of gang, counter-gang, sabotage and political assassinations Colby learned at SOE’s special training school were the very methods later used in directing the CIA’s Project Phoenix in South Vietnam which include the mass assassination atrocities at My Lai.


As things settled down at the end of the World War II, the Rockefeller-CIA set about to expand its apparatus. In the process, they would try to permeate and dissolve the old order “to emerge as the hard core of a new imperial dominion.” The Tavistock- and the Reesian method- that the class war should be waged with “weapons that affect morale more than they take life” – has become, in the post-war period, the primary weapons system of the Rockefeller forces, including their own covert arm, the Central Intelligence Agency.


Shortly after the war, Rees gave a speech in New York to a group of military and civilian psychiatrists: “If we prepare to come out into the open and to attack the social and national problems of our day, then we must have the shock troops and these cannot be provided by psychiatry based wholly in institutions. We must have mobile teams of psychiatrists who are free to move around and make contacts with the local area.” The overall theme of all of Rees’ known work is the development of the use of psychiatry as a weapon of the ruling class. Rees’ 22-point program for the “application of military methods to civilian life,” presented in his lectures that constituted the book “The Shaping of Psychiatry by War,” became an Anglo-American SS Bible.

With the abundance of proof, still most people would find it difficult to accept that the CIA is an adjunct of the Rockefeller-led organization that along with Tavistock Institute is working diligently to change the paradigm of modern society. If we are to believe the United States Federal statutes and other myths concocted for the credulous, the CIA is merely a key agency of the National Security Council, working with various intelligence agencies, the Defense Department, the Treasury and the FBI. The reality is quite different. The CIA apparatus has penetrated every key organization, including think tanks, universities, non-governmental organizations and Foundations. For example, most major universities are either entirely or substantially branches of the CIA…. Through control of governmental and major foundations, the CIA has been able to have a say “not only what programs are funded, but to control the selection of instructors who move into controlling positions” as honest academicians are weeded out and hounded into retirement.


Then there is the case of CIA’s control of private foundations (including the Rockefeller Foundation, the Carnegie Foundation, etc.)…


F. The Fascist Concept of Man and Freudian Mass Brain Washing

Investigative journalist, Lonnie Wolfe, succinctly tells the story: “The Nazi state was created by the same oligarchical financial and political interests who today control what we call the mass media and television. Forget about whatever stories you have seen on television about how Hitler came to power: His path to power was cleared by the same oligarchs who employ the brainwashers that program your television. Over a period of years, following the First World War, Germany was brutalized by the economic policy of this international (ETK: Jewish) elite. Hitler’s Nazis were funded and promoted as a political option, and then steered into power in 1932-1933.


Once in power, the Nazis maintained their hold through the use of terror as part of mass brainwashing. In many ways it were proper to view the Nazi period as an experiment in methods of mass brainwashing and social control. At the root of the experiment was the desire to create a New World Order based on reversing a fundamental premise of western Christian civilization: that man is created as a higher and distinct species from animals, created in the image of the living God and by Divine grace, imparted the Divine Spark of reason.”


As much as it may surprise many, Nazi Germany was an experiment in Freudian mass psychology. What it means is that both Freud and the Nazis shared the belief system of man as a sinful beast who is allowed to exist under strictly imposed laws. Man is not made in the image of the living God, says Freud; man has made god in his image, for the purpose of easing the pain of his existence.


In the late 1930’s, the Tavistock Institute developed a symbiotic relationship with the Frankfurt Institute for Social Research. Their collaboration led them to analyze the culture of a population from a neo-Freudian standpoint. Nazism just happened to be one of its patients on the psychiatric couch. In a nutshell, Hitler was the prototype of Jungian man, who surrendered his reason to his unconscious, and who welcomed divine madness as Jung himself advised. (Jung states:) “The impressive thing about the German phenomenon is that one man, who is obviously possessed, has infected the whole nation to such an extent that everything is set in motion and has started rolling on its course towards perdition.” Jung added that “Hitler’s power is not political, it is magic.”


Both Tavistock and the Frankfurt School paid close attention to Nazi propaganda techniques, which they willingly incorporated into their research. The aim of the project, as stated in (Theodore) Adorno’s “Introduction to the Sociology of Music,” was to “program a mass culture as a form of extensive social control that would steadily degrade its consumers.” The application of their research into human behavior was set to launch a decade later in a major irreversible Cultural Revolution in America.

(con'd) It is worth repeating here that the Nazi Party was not a political party, as we commonly understand it, but a cult. “Nazi appropriation of the occult was a weird farrago of astrology, Freemasonry, racism rooted in occultism and popular European folklore (the Cathars, the Holy Grail, the Knights Templar, the Arthurian legends). Sinister forces at work against humanity. In “Morning of the Magicians,” one of the most explosive books of the 1960s’, the authors identified these forces in paranormal terms, but always linking them back to the fascist fantasies of Hitler, Himmler, Rosenberg, Darre and Hess; blatant occult fantasies that became government policy and which led to World War II. That millions of innocent people died because of this twisted dream is the greatest tragedy of the XX century.


And when it was all over, those who imposed this horror on the world attempted through mass media to blame their victims for the crimes committed. The Germans, whom the oligarchy through their Nazi tools, had tortured in mass brainwashing were told that they were collectively guilty for all that happened. As a result, the entire nation was put in the dock, and tried as criminals, rapists, and mass murderers. And while we were told that it must never happen again, the brainwashers at such places as Tavistock Institute were already secretly working behind the scenes on a new and more powerful brainwashing tool, television, to help them organize their fascist “superstate” without the now socially unacceptable Nazi superstructure.


Now, how many people understand this? How many people realize that the majority’s perception of reality, especially in the political arena, is not their own. It is shrewdly manipulated and imposed on them by the Men behind the Curtain. Most certainly don’t and brainwashing has a lot to do with it..


Oh shit... I saw that silly sentence again!
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Re: Questioning Consciousness

Postby American Dream » Mon Feb 19, 2018 1:14 pm

Karlstrom is coming from the racist, reactionary, demented side- irregardless of whether he quotes Christopher Simpson about Nazis or not. I consider Prince Ray a similarly misguided figure...
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Re: Questioning Consciousness

Postby dada » Mon Feb 19, 2018 8:20 pm

Every Dionysian is just an Apollonian who realized the limits of questioning consciousness with the rational mind.
Both his words and manner of speech seemed at first totally unfamiliar to me, and yet somehow they stirred memories - as an actor might be stirred by the forgotten lines of some role he had played far away and long ago.
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Re: Questioning Consciousness

Postby DrEvil » Mon Feb 19, 2018 8:38 pm

American Dream » Mon Feb 19, 2018 7:14 pm wrote:Karlstrom is coming from the racist, reactionary, demented side- irregardless of whether he quotes Christopher Simpson about Nazis or not. I consider Prince Ray a similarly misguided figure...


Agreed. A quick peek at the 911nwo site makes it obvious that it's a racist, delusional shitshow of the highest order. How anyone can take this garbage seriously is beyond me.

If someone is ranting about Agenda 21 and "a communist/Zionist Jewish world totalitarian dictatorship", posting headlines like "Decoding United Nations Agenda 2030; blueprint for total global enslavement and “Jewish Utopia” by 2030" and quoting Natural News it's usually a sign that they're complete fucking idiots and should be laughed out of the room.

Even if there's a tiny sliver of truth in there somewhere there's no way I'm wading through an ocean of stupid to find it. There has to be better sources out there.
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