Roland Carnaby?

[mxmendox]

the following is directly from cryptogon...the entire post is much longer and includes various convoluted news accounts including doubts as to whether he really was a cia officer and his wife declaring her intention to sue.

http://cryptogon.com/?p=2516

Roland Carnaby
May 4th, 2008

This post is in a raw, data dump format right now.

Everywhere that I’ve seen this story being discussed on the Internet, there are a lot of anonymous comments saying that Roland Carnaby made it all up; that he just imagined that he was in the CIA, Photoshopped himself into a picture of the lobby of CIA headquarters, created the plaques and commemorations himself. All of that is possible. In fact, it may even be likely. Take some time to read, Mercenary by Tom Junod.

Was Roland Carnaby another “Zeke” type character? Again, maybe, even probably so.

However, there is a mountain of stuff here that is so odd that it practically left a bitter taste in my mouth just from reading it. I don’t know what the “National Security Command Center” is, but that’s the organization listed as the owner of the vehicle Carnaby was driving when he was killed. And maybe a total faker can become the president of a local chapter of the Association for Intelligence Officers. Right?

Let’s keep an eye out for new developments.

Hint: Don’t submit nonsense from Sorcha Fool, Hal, etc. I’ve already ran across bullcrap from them on this story.

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Click2Houston: Suspect Shot In Police Chase Dies

POSTED: 11:53 am CDT April 29, 2008
UPDATED: 5:54 pm CDT April 29, 2008

HOUSTON — A man died Tuesday afternoon after leading police on a high-speed chase throughout Houston that ended in gunfire, KPRC Local 2 reported.

Investigators said officers stopped a driver for speeding on the South Freeway near Orem Drive on Tuesday morning and he took off.

Detectives said the chase went onto the North and Katy freeways before the driver got onto the West Loop. The motorist eventually stopped the SUV on the southbound feeder road of the West Loop near Post Oak Boulevard about 50 minutes later, police said.

There was a short standoff and officers tried to break out the window on the passenger’s side of the SUV.

Officials said the driver did not respond to initial commands to exit the vehicle.

“This went back and forth with the officers trying to get the guy to roll down his window, show his hands and exit the vehicle,” said Sgt. John Chomiak with the Houston Police Department.

When he did step out, the driver reached for something under the driver’s seat, officials said.

Police said they spotted a shiny object, and Sgt. A.J. Washington and Officer C.A. Foster fired once, hitting the man.

“They see the suspect exit the vehicle, turn around, reach down underneath the driver’s seat and that’s when the officers shot,” Chomiak said.

The man then tumbled out of the vehicle and fell to the ground. Officers handcuffed the driver, who lay motionless on the pavement until an ambulance arrived. Officers leaned down and spoke to him as they waited for the ambulance to arrive.

The driver, whose name was not released, died at Ben Taub Hospital. He was only identified as a 52-year-old man.

Investigators said two handguns and a shotgun were found inside the SUV, including one that was within the driver’s reach.

No vehicles were hit during the chase.

Traffic along the West Loop South was backed up for miles while police conducted an investigation on the frontage road and shut down the busy area for more than three hours.

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Click2Houston: Friend: Chase Suspect Was In Intelligence

By Elizabeth Scarborough

POSTED: 10:02 am CDT April 30, 2008
UPDATED: 4:42 pm CDT April 30, 2008

THE WOODLANDS, Texas — Family and friends said Roland Carnaby was the man shot by Houston officers after a police chase and that he was in intelligence, KPRC Local 2 reported.

Local 2 obtained a photograph of him standing next to Houston Police Chief Harold Hurtt.

Alan Helfman said Carnaby, 52, was a wonderful friend who would not say much about his work.

“I just know he was involved in intelligence,” said Helfman. “He was highly intelligent. He spoke seven languages fluently, and he always wanted to meet law enforcement.”

His family also said he worked in law enforcement for the federal government with the CIA and FBI.

“He knows better than to run. He should have never run,” said Helfman.

The chase started around 10:15 a.m. Tuesday on Highway 288 at Orem. It lasted nearly 50 minutes.

“The officers, when they discharged their weapons, were in fear of their safety,” said Sgt. John Chomiak with the Houston Police Department.

Local 2 caught the final standoff on tape.

Once the black SUV stopped on the West Loop feeder road near Woodway, the vehicle was surrounded.

Officer C.A. Foster tried to break out the window on the passenger side.

Sgt. A.J. Washington kept his gun trained on the driver. The driver opened his door like he was getting out.

Washington walked around front, and the driver looked like he was reaching under his seat for something. That’s when both officers fired.

“It’s just horrible when you know someone that well and watch him fall like a dog,” said Helfman.

The officers said they saw something shiny in the driver’s hand, and knew he had a concealed handgun license at the time of the shooting.

Detectives later found three weapons in the SUV — a shotgun and two pistols. They said one was within reach.

Helfman said that’s no surprise but believes it was just a big misunderstanding.

His family said Carnaby was on the phone with the FBI moments before he was shot, trying to get them to verify that he was an intelligence officer to HPD.

They said they hope Carnaby is remembered above all else for being a patriot.

His autopsy is supposed to be performed Wednesday.

mxmendox

[American Dream]

I have to admit that my reading of this material suggests that he was as likely a con man as a genuine clandestine services officer. Something about his behavior doesn't "ring true"- too open, but then again it's hard to know for sure about these things...

[cptmarginal]

There's some amazing stuff deep in that data dump post; the whole thing is worth reading:

“Most of what he does is so classified that regular homicide (detectives) will come up with a blank page and then a question about why you are asking,” said Fred Platt, the vice president of the local chapter of intelligence agents. “He’s here because of homeland security. The port and the airport. He knows everybody on the command staff of every agency.”

[...]

“I can’t fathom any reason why he would be running from the police because he is the police,” Platt said. “This doesn’t make any sense. I can’t understand him running or why they opened up on him. This doesn’t smell right.”

Carnaby was fluent in many languages, family and friends say, including Arabic and French, and could have been useful in the Mideast, especially in the waning days of the Cold War.

[...]

On the other hand, he was friends with local federal agents and they often came to the couple’s Spring home for dinner, Burch said. The couple had private dinners with the head of the Houston Port Authority, she said, and Carnaby also was close friends with former Harris County Sheriff Johnny Klevenhagen, who she said was best man at their wedding in 1986. Klevenhagen died in 1999.

The Port Authority connection could make sense for a strictly commercial reason. Carnaby’s family, which used the different spelling of Karnabe, was involved in the shipping industry, which was the apparent source of his considerable but undetermined income. He paid cash for his cars.

[...]

He was the son of a wealthy Lebanese family that owns a shipping business, she said. She said he told her that he was born and raised in New York City.

His father, Vincent Said Carnaby, was a Lebanese ambassador to several countries, she said, and son Roland worked for the family business and often traveled for business.

Investigators and FBI and CIA officials have said they could not trace Carnaby’s connection to either agency, but family members said Carnaby had awards, pictures and books signed with several officials, including former CIA Director George Tenet and former Secretary of State James Baker. But Clark says he thought Carnaby was too talkative for an intelligence agent.

Perhaps most interesting of all:

Weird Post on Closed Down Blog

The following was recovered from Google cache. It had previously appeared on a blog called, Covert Operations & Pornography at http://papparazzipress.blogspot.com.

Tuesday, February 12, 2008
Premel’s Intel Chief Retires

Following the first series of interviews Alan Premel gave with Channel 1 in Moscow, the first series was posted online last week and i have already seen two other additional stories which tie in with Premel and his dealings with the private firm in Houston. This is one and let me find the other.

One of the CIA’s former counter-terrorism chiefs and pioneers in covert operations, Roland Carnaby retires.
In the past few months, Mr. Carnaby, who has led a private intelligence firm in Houston, Texas has been delegating more and moredaily responsibilities to his lietenants and is completing his succession planning, say people familiar with the matter. A decision about his departure could come within weeks, though the situation remains fluid, say these people.
Alan Premel, 32 years old, whom CIA recruited in 1997 and whom Carnaby personally recruited in 2002 to work with the private intelligence firm in Houston has emerged as the leading candidate to succeed him, added these people. A spokesperson familiar with the retirement plans stated that Premel and his current worries with the US Senate over allegations and ties to the CIA’s Rendition program and his recent resignation from CIA amid a slew of disclosure cases pulls him out of the race for President and chief of such a power position within the intelligence community.
The departure of Mr. Carnaby, 52, would mean the loss of CIA’s most experienced, talented and high profile clandestine officers in management. Few executives who helped pioneer the commercialization of private intelligence and private security firms have remained on top for as long, except for some who can also claim founder titles, such as Patriot Oil, and Pan-American Shipping and Consulting Group.
Mr. Carnaby’s retirement would come at a critical point for CIA. Any efforts to reveerse the slow-down at his private firm could involve drastic changes that may be more palatable under a new CEO like Premel. Mr. Premel, at CIA, was very instrumental in many changes at CIA as a successful supervisor in the Balkans. His management experience at CIA is 25 years behind Carnaby’s but with the firm already warning investors in recent months that it will be raising fees in the absence of Mr. Carnaby.
Mr. Premel wrestled with how to reverse the declining momentum before having to exit left stage last summer from the firm after his public disclosure. The firm’s third quarter numbers, a key barometer of the firm’s health fell 63% without Premel. Before leaving he implemented some changes that were never fully set into motion causing the down-turn after his sudden departure.
The timing of Mr. Carnaby’s retirement is of his own choosing, say people familiar with the situation, unlike Premel’s pre-mature departure which came 20-years too soon say experts. Not long after he jonied CIA, Roland Carnaby declared that no one person should stay in the same cover in covert operations more than two years. A standard practice used by the firm. This philosophy has accredited the firm with a lot of success claims Mr. Premel in his interview with CNN’s David Ensor late of last year.
Under James Pavitt and Roland Carnaby, the firm has become the intelligence community’s most successful private consulting business on counter-terrorism, security consulting and intelligence gathering where they pioneered a way for private officers to carry out day to day functions in the field, relay them back to CIA, DoD, DIA or other foreign agencies. In 2004, Mr. Premel streamlined a way for collecting, compliling and disseminating vast amounts of data and breaking it down by himself. The process which is only done by one person, Mr. Premel himself is the work of what 7-9 officers would typically do.
When Carnaby and Premel shared the reigns from 2004-2007, they have delivered more than 10 consecutive quarters of sequential revenue growth. Profit increase every year and the company now has 248 licensed contract officers working for the firm globally, and $297 million in classified contracts over 5 continents. Those figures are up from the firms $18 million in 1997.
To maintain momentum, Mr. Premel, using $40 million from a settlement with CIA, purchased a private lending company in Houston as well as acquiring a private shipping business and a private internet ticketing business.
There were missteps: Last year, the firm took a $80.4 million write-down for its purchase of a private airline business in DC, Houston and Vegas. And threats loomed when recruitment of some of the firm’s top and most talented officer’s. To keep top talent, Mr. Carnaby and Mr. Premel kicked in an extra $2.4 million for salaries and bonuses to keep the firm afloat.
Mr. Carnaby has long planned for his eventual exit, say people familiar with the matter. He often rotated top officer’s into different operational roles as a way to groom potential successors and to give the board a slate of candidates from which to choose.

In his departing emails to friends, firm and CIA colleagues, Mr. Carnaby wrote how much he was pleased by the professionalism and careers of each and all of the persons who have served under him and with him during his 32-year tenure in the US Intelligence Community.

Seems like something weird definitely happened. I wonder why he didn't want to roll down his window?

[dqueue]

Unfortunately, "Alan Premel" seems to be fictitious. There exists much intriguing reading about Premel; however, the only thing that pans out verifiably is the registration of Intelligence Kids, a business registered in Houston. Premel has a reasonable history on the internet, but there exist many embellishments that do not seem verifiable.

It feels like there's much more to this tale. I just can't imagine where it all leads. The disappeared blogs are curious, because they seem to exist to circulate stories about Premel (and by extension Carnaby).

[AlienSpaceBat]

Premel does seem fictitious, some sort of prank maybe (?), which adds further murk & weirdness to this story.



Here's a picture of Premel, supposedly, complete with hand gesture.

This is posted at Rotten Tomatoes, reviewing a film 'Inside The CIA'. This film is some kind of a set of 3 videos, and is 10 years old.

He describes himself as "The CIA's Former Covert Comic" ...

[cptmarginal]

Anyone else ever think that incidents like this have become dead-ends in modern times? Before absolute state secrecy was legalized, perhaps some sort of investigation of an incident like this would have led to further information. In this case, I have the strong feeling that we will never learn what was in Mr. Carnaby's car that made him unable to even roll down the window.

With the way laws are nowadays, we probably never would find out about things such as the Finders cult (for example) because a total wall of state secrecy can now be employed - and there's no way to know when your information sources regarding distant events are censored. How do you know when a media blackout occurs?

Similarly, there is no way for us to understand certain arcane changes in the laws that occurred with something like the Patriot Act. These changes to the law could be done strictly for "micro-economic" reasons that are by definition unknown to us - they are things which various people in power may want done for their own personal benefit. Take, for example, the incident a while back where Alberto Gonzales arrested something like 50,000 people that could only be legally raided using new expanded Patriot Act powers - how many favors were done that day? How many competitors put out of business?

Some people might say that such raids were always possible, not just in recent "war on terror" times; in fact, this seems to be necessarily true based on the inherent properties of secrecy. The government could always spy on anyone and get away with anything they wanted to. The only rule was don't get caught. The real change to modern American society that scares me is that it is no longer necessary to hide illegal business - it is all done nice and officially, in a courtroom. The records are sealed; the investigation is secret. Court adjourned.

Who knows what the story of Roland Carnaby might lead to? It obviously contains more than meets the eye, with the fictitious person angle striking notes somewhat close to an ARG.

[cptmarginal]

OK, I found some more weird stuff about Premel online:

http://tinyurl.com/5u3kmw

Alan Premel - Former CIA, author, artist and entrepreneur shut down by CIA

Oct 21st, 2007 2:08:56 am - Subscribe
Two months ago when the lone story of Alan Premel broke into the news thousands became fanatics about this story. Since his departure from CIA we have seen Premel on a slew of television shows defending his name and defending his former girlfriend Laura Madden, the porn star formerly known as Syvette Wimberly.

His story not only captured national and worldwide attention but it has also attracted alot of interest from Hollywood for book and movie deals. His story, can likely be comparable to that of Forest Gump. Premel's life which is littered with dozens and dozens of accolades and achievements that can only 'be compared to that of Forest Gump.

It is a wild story from traveling the world as a child, completely an art degree before graduating high school, an accomplished former professional track & field athlete on top of going into the US Marine Corps as an Electronic Surveillance Specialist with the 1st Intelligence Battalion and then moving onto 7 exciting years at CIA as a Balkan supervisor of OREA.

Forest Gump who was awarded the medal of honor was of course a fictional character but Premel is more than real life and worked in two offices in Eastern Europe during his service at CIA. Supervisor for OREA and then appointed as a supervisor for the DCI Balkan Task Force. The task force is still virtually unknown and its not really known what the functionality or operational structure and mission of this office is. one can only assume it is to thwart terrorist activities in eastern europe, and collect intel on radicals.

Premel has several claims to fame from professional track athlete, invented a satelite system in college that started the revolution and evolution of DVR where, Premel and another college friend were the original pioneers of DVR and the system was going to be originally called 'Premel', he is known for two comic strips that he put out while at CIA and was known as the covert comic and Godspy, and his crowning moment was being awarded both the 'Intelligence Star' and the CIA's highest honor, 'the Distinguished Intelligence Cross'.

Now, starting over with a new life in Houston Texas, Alan Premel has embarked on a media blitz in the past couple of months and is creating several books and television show ideas for his followers and supporters.

At CIA, Premel was involved in a tumultuous 4 year long lawsuit with CIA and the FBI where Premel sued for a $41 million settlement. In late November 2005, Alan Premel was awarded an undisclosed amount for his wrongful termination suit against CIA.

With all of it behind him he started dating former Porn Star Syvette Wimberly which broke his name in the news when Premel came forward on the record to defend her. Force to leave his office as an analytical role Premel finally stepped away from the Intelligence Community in July 2007.

His public relations blitzkrieg had him on CNN, he sat with National Security Correspondent David Ensor, faced the nation on the O'Reilly Factor and has done over a dozen interviews online and has done internet forums with CIA fans through chat forums.

With mega stardom in his sights Premel is relentless to give up on his goals and dreams. He is speaking with Nickelodeon on a possible cartoon series for his comic 'Patches & Cinders', he has already in advance written 30 childrens books and has his own screenplay ready for a spy love story rumored to be entitled 'Way of the Ghost'.

Aside from dating a former pornstar Premel has enjoyed the lime light and Hollywood A-list life through a number of celebs from dating both Rachel McAdams and Paris Hilton, already has a reality show inked and ready for early 2008 which they are about to start filming will host actor and comedian Jamie Kennedy opposite of Premel and Hilton in a brand new reality show.

The leading candidate to play Premel in his screenplay 'Way of the Ghost' is Leonardo DiCaprio and an unknown actress that Premel only describes as Kelli-D. In addition to the reality show which is slated for early 2008, Premel has also signed a lucrative contract with Barnes and Noble stores to speak on CIA and Spies.

Premel stories are being feverishly pulled and shut down from the internet from both CIA and CNN. Premels story already has the Hollywood and major motion picture companies offering up amounts from $2-7 for his story for a made for tv movie and figures $13-20 million overall for all of the rights to all of his writing and movie ideas.

Premel, during his career at CIA served as an advisor along with Bob Baer on the movie 'Syriana' and recently was an insider on 'Rendition'. With controversy abound and not one officer wanting to come on the record about CIA's activities and covert action concerning Extraordinary Rendition but Premel has not been afraid to speak his mind on it.

As we look to the future we can only wait with anticipation to see what entertainment a former CIA can serve up. He is reported to be a very humorous and hysterical person with a great sense of humor. So coupled with the fact that he is running around the world with Jamie Kennedy and Paris Hilton the show ought to be a hysterical success.
mood: wishful

Supposedly the picture posted above by AlienSpaceBat is of him with Jamie Kennedy (at least that is how it's labeled). Obviously bullshit.

Here's some more pictures from his Rotten Tomatoes profile:

Caption:
Syvette Wimberly & Alan
Premel



I also found this blog, which is now suspiciously empty of posts. I found this from Google's cache:

Alan Premel Speaks to Senate Oversight

I had received an email notifying me that i am able to start up this blog again after it was shut down.

I had done some postings on CIA and the account was locked down. I dont know if it was just CIA in general or in lew of Premel the former CIA in stories about him. I have not written about him due

And now, here is another dummy blog, which only has two posts ever, called The Carrington Express:

Sunday, February 3, 2008
Ex Spy Premel used Sabbatical

One morning in the late stages of 2005, Alan Premel awoke in a pitch-black hotel room. The then, executive pay grade private security consultant knew he needed to see home, US soil and his family. Instead he had 3 weeks left on a tour through 3 far flung cities overseas in Europe for the Central Intelligence Agency. Premel, just recently seperated from his wife of 3 years received a phone call from his family that his mother was diagnosed with Breast Cancer.
For several minutes, he didn't know where he was or what awaited him.

"It did not bode well with me and my work," Mr. Premel thought to humself. His mothers cancer news proved a blessing in disguise. With constant travel and 60-hour weeks pushing him close to burnout, the 30 year old civilian contractor for CIA, decided he needed a sabbatical.

Mr. Premel pursued an elaborate self improvement scheme for himself as well as sharpening the will and strength of his mother back home in Texas who was about to undergo chemo therapy for the first time. His professional focus was to be put on hold during what CIA and Premel thought would be an eight-month break, which ended in April 2007. "I'm a better consultant, intelligence officer and analyst today because of it. It enabled me to become more balanced. I got involved with Stratfor.com at home and was able to do contract report writing at home as well as continue to help run a private firm which we ran out of Houston from a laptop. it gave me more perspective on how to run things and to do it on my own." The 32-year old contractor analyst now toils about 20 hours a week with the Intelligence Community after publicly being outed from CIA this past summer in 2007. And works another 20 hours a week with Federal Express Corporation for benefits while juggling two small business's in his own time away from those projects with Intelligence Kids and Intelligence Mogul. Both endeavors are philanthropic outreaches to the community where Mr. Premel is very involved as a leader in several communities.

His private trust fund, the Alan Premel Trust Fund is responsible for providing a mengerie of services, equipment and opportunties to the community from supplies, clothing, financial aid, playgrounds and this past Christmas sponsored 123 familes for Christmas. Now, Mr. Premel with his acquisition of Aspyr Global, a Private Intelligence firm in Houston is wanting to step up and spend more time getting involved with the company where we expressed he would only be a (VC) venture capitalist and investor in the newly formed company.

A sabbatical can enhance your career, especially if you are in the CIA and you acquire the valuable skills, experience and insights. Extended breaks allow for personal goals. During my time talking with Mr. Premel, it allowed him to focus on his mother's cancer treatment, putting together a number of private companies and inventions which he is working on aside from a comic strip which has been out of circulation for several years. He slowed down his travel which was around 95% less but in other sabbatical cases it allows the individual to travel more and to research. As an Intelligence analyst, a sabbatical proved to be very helpful for Alan Premel. A look at Mr. Premel's playbook offers helpful moves to follow and missteps to avoid.

Sabbaticals are attracting greater attention these days from the nation's frazzled and disengaged workforce, according to Dan Clements, who co-wrote "escape 101: Sabbaticals Made Simple." He took five in 15 years. About 16% of U.S. employers offered unpaid sabbaticals and 4% gave paid ones in 2007, The Society for Human Resource Management reports. CIA is a major proponent to using sabbaticals, especially in the Clandestine Service, where Premel formerly was not only a covert operator but a supervisor. High Stress and life threatening situations occur everyday pushing the officer to the edge and most times over. Suicides at CIA are up 500%. And when Premel got hit head on with divorce, depression, a mothers cancer and mid level management stress at CIA, he approached CIA Human Resources with the decision on where to go and what to do.

Premel for example, participated in what was called the Future Leave program, launched a month before he enquired about paid leave. Professionals with three years' service may take up to five-years unpaid leave and return to their positions with benefits and guaranteed re-employment. A successful sabbatical requires thoughtful planning. "You are taking a courageous risk," notes Stephanie Smith, a New York executive coach. "Make sure the return on that risk is worth it."

Mr. Premel spent months preparing to temporarily abandon his stressful job. Working hard was nothing new. He had accumulated more than 25 weeks of unused vacation by late 2007, when Premel bought Aspyr Global Intelligence, a CIA sub contract firm. Premel's own quasi CIA, where he is not only his own director, boss, but he is also master of his own universe. Mr. Premel loved the big-company feel that CIA had but disliked the new Intelligence take-over that was implemented by the creation of the NIC which now oversees CIA. "Now, the number of people i meet with and work with to maintain order and meet numbers is dramtically reduced and its what i felt was needed," he explains.

"At CIA, i served 15 agencies outside of CIA and in conjunction with 27 governments in Eastern Europe multiplied by the number of agencies involved and officers on the ground and at headquarters made for not only a busy schedule but a headache daily. Suddenly, I am busier servicing all 16 agencies in the Intelligence Community and some outside firms and government contractors so i deal with 22 entities now. But the time and needs are down since i am dealing with one person at each one instead of hundreds of people in the field," he adds. Mr. Premel, a former USA Track & Field professional athlete reduced his exercise regimen and regained half of the 30 pounds he had recently shed from his divorce and his 5-foot-9-inch frame.

In November 2005, Mr. Premel informed associates and CIA management about his paid sabbatical set to start the following February. He was unsure how long how long he would be gone and even if he would return. "How do i get my passion back?"

He felt ready to relinquish a professional position of 5 years at CIA. Yet he couldn't let go entirely; so he occassionally advised and reported for Stratfor on the Balkans during his break. Mr. Premel drafted a "Sabbatical Framework." It was a one-page blue-print that described four ideal states (calm, comfort, sharing, enjoyment) followed by intended actions and outcomes for his body, mind and soul. Actions ranged from exploring teaching, to getting involved in his two new businesses, and attending movie premieres and getting certified as a movie critic to eventually write a column along with his comic which will be done through the Washington Post Writers Group and Nickelodeon Kids Magazine.

To improve his body, Mr. Premel spent a week a month traveling and at each stop he made sure the resort had a health spa. Then Premel engaged in relaxation, massages, yoga, running on the beach, drawing, jewelry-making and at home while moving back in with his parents to assist his mother with cancer, he learned how to make candles. Later, he he made it a habit to walk every day as well as read and taking his 5 year old black lab Chauncey on daily walks. He lost 10 pounds.

Professionally, he explored teaching part time and spoke at Texas A&M University at the School of Political Affairs with former President George H Bush and at high schools through Texas, Florida and Virginia. He became an avid speaker at Langley high school and wanted to bridge the gap for students whose parents were CIA officers and help them better understand the situations in which many students lived. He also invested $2,125,000 in two young and unprofitable businesses ("I wanted to put myself in an uncomfortable position and try new things," he says), and helped start the Kingwood Junior Olympics program, in the suburb where he lived, and competed again in the US Memoriad (memory olympics), where Mr. Premel represented the state of Texas. He says the memory olympics and junior olympics helped him realize he should focus on what he did best - Dedicating time to children and having it to do with memory or intelligence. So he developed more events and things to do with Intelligence Kids.

He negotiated his re-entry with CIA which accepted his demands. But the day he returned to his job he felt letdown. "My job felt un-important, unstimulating, and was just boring," Premel told CNN's David Ensor in September 2007. Mr. Premel's long time business mentor told him that it would pass and right about that time Alan Premel's name was released into the media where he was publicly defending a girlfriend in a lawsuit. She was a former adult address who made a name for herself in adult flicks and Mr. Premel was a spy. So in the end when he was going to credit the sabbatical for clearing up his mind, along came a spider and sat down beside him.

Also during his interview with CNN, Mr. Premel was asked about losing CIA over a porn star who he is no longer in a relationship with and he said, "the experience allowed me to re-evaluate my position at CIA, gave me a way out, and allowed me to correct any mis-judgments concerning her in the media with her name." Alan Premel went on to explain to me that he supports sabbaticals and believed it allowed him to deal with circumstances in life that were unexpected at the same time as give him the security of knowing he could return some day to that position. Overall, Mr. Premel was not allowed to return directly to his job since his name publicly came out and has since resigned from service at CIA.

Mr. Premel stronly urges to consider a sabbatical leave as an option if you are an executive and you feel it is necessary to do so. It is also important to know that at the same time he requested a sabbatical leave from CIA he was awarded an undisclosed sum in December 2005 from a four-year long lawsuit against CIA. So it afforded him the luxury at 30 years old to take time away.
Posted by CarringtonExpress at 8:48 PM
Labels: Alan Premel, CIA, sabbatical leave

Obviously, this information is false. If Premel wrote articles for Stratfor.com, then why does a search for him on said website yield nothing?

And what is the topic of the only other post on this blog? Bhutto's assassination.

Even as far back as October, i can remember the news reporting with the Pakistani elections that Musharraf and Bhutto both running for President.

Musharrar, at the time, asked Bhutto, now deceased, but then the Prime Minister if she would like to share power as a President. She was returning from Exile and he then at the time in late October encouraged her to delay her trip home. Its funny that months later we know that she was killed during an explosion while entering her limosine.

I do not believe the Bullshit about her hitting her head being pushed into the car by a bodyguard. She was assassinated, its sad and we all need to start waking up. Musharraf needs to be removed from office.
[...]

Here's some more stuff I found, some of it also deleted:

Beyond Secrecy with Steven: Alan Premel Acquires Aspyr Global
Adam Ciralsky on "DarkSide" Ops and Alan Premel
Politics & Government Discerned

Damn, this is getting into some heavy stuff. Whether Alan Premel is a totally fictitious person or not, someone definitely has been weaving quite a tale about him. The stuff in those last three links is crazy - I'm especially intrigued by the Adam Ciralsky connection. Also, Aspyr Global is apparently the name of Roland Carnaby's supposed private intelligence firm (providing, of course, that this angle isn't a pack of lies entirely).

Obviously, there are many different leads and names thrown around on these phantom blog posts - and the strange style of writing on many of the articles seems to be the product of a single author. Someone who has more experience with this sort of thing might be able to give some insight - might this be an ARG style scenario we are looking at? Is Dream's End shitting himself right now?

[Horatio Hellpop]

Supposedly the picture posted above by AlienSpaceBat is of him with Jamie Kennedy (at least that is how it's labeled). Obviously bullshit

- cptmarginal

What do you mean?

[cptmarginal]

I'm guessing it is bullshit based on the obviously false article I posted above it which also references Jamie Kennedy. Some extracts from that article:

"Two months ago when the lone story of Alan Premel broke into the news thousands became fanatics about this story."

What? This never happened. A search for "Alan Premel" on Google yields only 76 results, mostly about the Carnaby incident or false info about him.

'His public relations blitzkrieg had him on CNN, he sat with National Security Correspondent David Ensor, faced the nation on the O'Reilly Factor and has done over a dozen interviews online and has done internet forums with CIA fans through chat forums. "

Total fiction.

"Aside from dating a former pornstar Premel has enjoyed the lime light and Hollywood A-list life through a number of celebs from dating both Rachel McAdams and Paris Hilton, already has a reality show inked and ready for early 2008 which they are about to start filming will host actor and comedian Jamie Kennedy opposite of Premel and Hilton in a brand new reality show. "

So maybe I am being too rash in not admitting that maybe he somehow got his picture taken with Jamie Kennedy, but it seems to me like this is totally made up. I don't know for sure what the deal is.


Here's something I found out about the porn star who was referenced. On this page, someone claiming to be Alan Premel posts a comment asking to be removed from their site.

The real Syvette Wimberly is not a porn star.

He also pops up on this site to make the same request.

Alan Premel seems more and more like a totally fictitious person, with multiple different references on closed down blogs as the only source of info on him - including a blog listing Roland Carnaby's name well before this recent bizarre incident. All of the info about this guy's life is provided from dubious sources, and his Rotten Tomatoes account establishes a corroborating narrative linking him to obscure news item Syvette Wimberly.

So what the hell is going on here? Why was this weird disinfo cloud present around Carnaby before his recent death?

Here's a link to his Intelligence Kids company profile:
http://www.manta.com/coms2/dnbcompany_hlsm0l

And here's something else of interest:
Why is former FBI special agent Don Clark lying about knowing Roland Carnaby's name?

[cptmarginal]

The latest on this in the Houston press:

'CIA operative' buried; mystery remains

01:45 AM CDT on Tuesday, May 6, 2008

KHOU.com staff report

HOUSTON -- Family members of Roland Carnaby said they had a private burial service Monday for the man killed by Houston police last week. Almost a week after the Pearland man led Houston police on a high-speed chase that ended is his death, his life of still a mystery.

Carnaby claimed to have been a CIA operative, an assertion that has yet to be positively refuted, but doubted by investigators.

Photo provided by Carnaby family

[DrVolin]

of course, he would be in front of a black, unmarked helicopter

[pepsified thinker]

The writing in the Premel pieces is SO bad (look who's talking, though, eh?) that it not only seems very unlikely as real, professional work, but also seems meant to be 'jokey'.

If it IS official output of a trying-to-be legitimate source, no wonder those sources no longer exist.

The idea someone was pranking him 'fits' for me noot just because of the above, but also because he (or someone claiming to be him) went around trying to clean up the mess: get himself removed from blogs, etc.

Then again, if he WAS a spook, he'd want that too, eh?

SUDDEN THOUGHT: there's a Frank Herbert short story, "The Tactful Saboteur", about a 'spy'

"... Jorj X. McKie, an employee of the Bureau of Sabotage. BuSab is a government agency responsible for conducting dirty tricks "in lieu of red tape" to help slow down and regulate the vast galaxy-spanning bureaucracy of the ConSentiency (under BuSab rules the Secretary of the agency retains his position until he himself is sabotaged).

from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tactful_Saboteur

If you wanted to damage a rival in whatever 'intel' field, how better than to post his name with all sorts of ridiculous nonesense about a porn star wife, overblown reports of interviews, and so on.

But it's all just guesses--except for the ridiculous (and in this case, take the more literal meaning of that word) tone of the overall body of posts, etc.

[Avalon]

I too noticed how the Premel material was rife with spelling and grammatical errors, despite its more professional structuring. There's a lot of detail, and long quotes, and from that aspect it is not as badly crafted as the flaws would otherwise suggest.

The beginning of the Premel article is stolen from a Wall Street Journal article that came out a month before.

Premel article from Carrington Express linked above:

Sunday, February 3, 2008
Ex Spy Premel used Sabbatical

One morning in the late stages of 2005, Alan Premel awoke in a pitch-black hotel room. The then, executive pay grade private security consultant knew he needed to see home, US soil and his family. Instead he had 3 weeks left on a tour through 3 far flung cities overseas in Europe for the Central Intelligence Agency. Premel, just recently seperated from his wife of 3 years received a phone call from his family that his mother was diagnosed with Breast Cancer.
For several minutes, he didn't know where he was or what awaited him.

"It did not bode well with me and my work," Mr. Premel thought to humself. His mothers cancer news proved a blessing in disguise. With constant travel and 60-hour weeks pushing him close to burnout, the 30 year old civilian contractor for CIA, decided he needed a sabbatical.

Mr. Premel pursued an elaborate self improvement scheme for himself as well as sharpening the will and strength of his mother back home in Texas who was about to undergo chemo therapy for the first time. His professional focus was to be put on hold during what CIA and Premel thought would be an eight-month break, which ended in April 2007. "I'm a better consultant, intelligence officer and analyst today because of it. It enabled me to become more balanced. I got involved with Stratfor.com at home and was able to do contract report writing at home as well as continue to help run a private firm which we ran out of Houston from a laptop. it gave me more perspective on how to run things and to do it on my own." The 32-year old contractor analyst now toils about 20 hours a week with the Intelligence Community after publicly being outed from CIA this past summer in 2007. And works another 20 hours a week with Federal Express Corporation for benefits while juggling two small business's in his own time away from those projects with Intelligence Kids and Intelligence Mogul. Both endeavors are philanthropic outreaches to the community where Mr. Premel is very involved as a leader in several communities.

From the Wall Street Journal Online, at Yahoo Finance:

How One Executive Used a Sabbatical to Fix His Career
by Joann Lublin
Tuesday, January 8, 2008

One morning in 2005, Daniel H. Marcus awoke in a pitch-black hotel room. The executive-pay consultant knew he needed to see a corporate client, his third in three days in three far-flung cities. But for several minutes, he didn't know where he was or who awaited him.

"That doesn't bode well for my work," Mr. Marcus thought to himself. His memory lapse proved a blessing in disguise. With constant travel and 60-hour weeks pushing him close to burnout, the veteran partner at Mercer, a major human-resource consultant, decided he needed a sabbatical.

Mr. Marcus pursued an elaborate self-improvement scheme and sharpened his professional focus during an eight-month break, which ended in November 2006. "I'm a better consultant today because I bring a more balanced perspective to my work,'' he says. The 51-year-old adviser now toils about 40 hours a week for Semler Brossy Consulting Group in Los Angeles.

http://finance.yahoo.com/career-work/ar ... His-Career

I'd say the rest of it is probably a customized cut and paste job from other sources too.

[cptmarginal]

The writing in the Premel pieces is SO bad (look who's talking, though, eh?) that it not only seems very unlikely as real, professional work, but also seems meant to be 'jokey'.

Definitely so - this is why I am assuming that all of those pieces were written by the same person.

The idea someone was pranking him 'fits' for me noot just because of the above, but also because he (or someone claiming to be him) went around trying to clean up the mess: get himself removed from blogs, etc.

Well, the whole scenario seems rather like a head game. My suspicions are roused mainly by the fact that one of those bizarre pieces references Roland Carnaby directly as the head of a private intelligence firm. That information is found in no other place, and is set up in such a way where researching some of the names mentioned in the article leads immediately to many different phony websites.

There is a whole slew of things being referenced offhand, almost as if somebody is meant to understand the connection between these seemingly random things. Again I must stress that I only consider such a possibility because of the unique position these posts have in relation to Carnaby.

Some of the things referenced include:

Patriot Oil - assuming that this is referencing a Texas firm, it could be this company, run by former Marines; or else maybe this company, which is involved in numerous court cases.

Balkans - referenced repeatedly as Premel's area of expertise. Specifically the OREA and the DCI Balkan Task Force.

James Pavitt - quick bio from Wikipedia: "James L. Pavitt (born February 19, 1946) was Deputy Director for Operations (DDO) for the CIA from 1999 until June 4, 2004. His sudden resignation – as well as that of his chief, DCI George Tenet the previous day – led to speculation that it was over the controversy surrounding Iraq weapons of mass destruction or 9-11 intelligence issues."

Mark Greggs - named as the supposed author of a blog contain 1 post, with fictitious info. LinkedIn.com lists a possible match: a Project Manager at Northrop Grumman in the DC area. His profile recommends one Abbas Zaidi, author of this interesting story which references intelligence and Al Qaeda to ruminate on whether Abbas will be arrested as a terrorist. Abbas previously worked as an Information Management Consultant for the Pentagon.

Shamil Basayev - supposedly killed by Premel. Quick info: "Shamil Basayev, the rebel warlord who prosecutors say masterminded the deadly school hostage siege in Beslan, is a household name in Russia". Shamil "was a militant Islamist and a leader of the Chechen separatist movement." A very interesting character.

Adam Ciralsky - Here's an article: CIA Employee, Ciralsky, Claims Agency Harrased Him Over 'Israel Ties'. The article about Premel supposedly written by Ciralsky is intriguing (to say the least) as it goes into a long detailed analysis of Osama bin Laden.

I could go on and on - there are many different strange references.

I'd say the rest of it is probably a customized cut and paste job from other sources too.

Good find - a quick search on Google has confirmed immediately that bits and pieces of the other articles were also lifted wholesale (though heavily altered).

There does seem to be an internal consistency to the information chosen, supporting a narrative that Premel was working in the Balkans specializing in Chechen militants who also happened to work as bodyguards for Osama bin Laden. The detail about working in the Balkans is repeated multiple times. So far I have been unable to confirm that part of the stories as having been plagiarized - the awkward style and bad punctuation surrounding those segments of the articles show that they were added.

[StarmanSkye]

Whew! Whatta tangled web.

From the datadump "perhaps most interesting" article cptmatginal posted re: Carnaby -- the writing here like in most of the other articles which highlight 'Premel' are VERY hokey, almost as if written by someone to whom English is a second, third or fourth language, there are SO many contradictions and internal inconsistencies and just plain sloppy, ackward and illogical details that one suspects there's a distinctly false, misleading narrative going on -- perhaps an ARG re: Premel and/or obscuring true information re: Carnaby. As in:

--quote--
Mr. Carnaby has long planned for his eventual exit, say people familiar with the matter. He often rotated top officer’s into different operational roles as a way to groom potential successors and to give the board a slate of candidates from which to choose.

In his departing emails to friends, firm and CIA colleagues, Mr. Carnaby wrote how much he was pleased by the professionalism and careers of each and all of the persons who have served under him and with him during his 32-year tenure in the US Intelligence Community.
--end quote--


WHAT 'firm'? and What 'board'? There's confusion whether the author is writing about Carnaby's role in the CIA or in his 'private' intelligence firm. Clearly, when speaking about the 'firm's' revenue the author here is talking about something else, but then the author talks about Premel's sharing the reins with him at the CIA, where each made significant improvements -- before Premel's lawsuit -- which the author claims was $40 million, and which in another article was stated as a lesser-amount 'settlement' over 'wrongful termination'.

It all sounds like a cheap-thrills creative writing project or fantasy movie-script if not over-the-top, sloppy disinfo -- perhaps intentional to muddy the waters?

But then, Carnaby WAS apparently killed because he led the police on a high-speed chase and refused to comply, representing a potential hostile threat. It sounds to me, that a man who spoke 7 languages fluently, had cultivated friendships with law enforcement and intel agents, didn't flaunt his alleged spook activities before casual friends, was gone for long periods of time, was cultured and sauve and intelligent and engaging etc., had an obscure but comfortable income -- he very well COULD have been an intel contractor, if not working directly for the CIA.

Perhaps he WAS near retirement and had some cause to think he was being set-up for a fall over an incriminating, dangerous or risky operation -- perhaps being blackmailed or indirectly threatened, and thought maybe this traffic stop could have led to jail and an 'accident' in custody -- perhaps he was in a state of paranoid stress, especially when he couldn't contact a superior or reference at the CIA who would vouch for him, making him think 'This might be IT!', so he wasn't thinking clearly, thus triggering his own death when he made a sudden, threatening movement. Or perhaps, as part of his cover, he had some thing of incriminating nature in his possession to validate his covert ID which he felt could ONLY be excused by direct CIA intervention -- and when he couldn't get support he freaked out. Oddly then, in that the PD didn't mention such a 'thing' -- weapons or drugs or incriminating blackmail info?

Definitely strange -- as who and WHY would post so many misleading details about Carnaby esp. with this 'Premel' character?

BTW: Good Catch, Avalon, on the Wall Street Journal online story which was the basis for the Premel story cut-n-paste! It sure discredits the whole Premel character premise, and by association destroys the Carnaby back-story. Kinda too bad inna way, as Premel was shaping up to be the arrogant snooty spook I'd love to despise. Sort of like a modern-day James Bond wunderkind with an inflated sense of patrioticly-entitled self-importance. (What private slob can sue the CIA for $40 million and prevail???)

I'd say, 3 to 2, Carnaby was a legit spook, perhaps 'caught' having double-dealed the Firm -- or was being set-up. This makes a kind of sense, as even his wife didn't know he was in town.

On the other hand, maybe he was 'just' a bigamist with marital problems, or being blackmailed.