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well, George Clooney to star in Men Who Stare At Goats movie

Postby justdrew » Sat May 17, 2008 5:08 am

http://www.variety.com/index.asp?layout=festivals&jump=story&id=1061&articleid=VR1117985794&cs=1

not sure what to think of this, my impression of the video doc done by the author of the book was that the retired military guys were having a great time pulling his leg and sending him on a snark hunt.
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Postby Eldritch » Sat May 17, 2008 7:09 am

In any case, it'll make a great title for an Oprah show: "The Men Who Stare At Goats—And Those Who Love Them."
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Postby Searcher08 » Sat May 17, 2008 8:23 am

As a Capricorn, I would like to ask... where I can reserve my ticket :lol:
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Clooney = CIA conduit.

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Sat May 17, 2008 2:58 pm

All Clooney's movies for years have had a CIA subtext.
I should do Clooney movie thread showing all the CIA subtext.

He's being used to inject psy-ops into the public mind because he's America's uber-male James Bond figure.

Now he's reinforcing the frikkin' clairvoyance woo woo disinfo (PSI!) that Dean Radin peddles for CIA.
Crap. Total sabotage of rational critical thinking which is the enemy of the state.
Clooney's even working with the UN now. Just entertainment...right.

This is something that happens to the top echelon of Hollywood leading men - their guaranteed audience makes them a perfect spook delivery system using their scripts.
Same thing happened to Robert Redford, Ahnuld, Tom Cruise, Nicholas Cage, etc.

Robert Redford's 2001 movie, 'Spy Game,' was nothing but a CIA recruiting film with Redford mentoring Brad Pitt into CIA. Two age levels of parasocial interaction with CIA.

The ads for the 'Spy Game' DVD/game accessories even said, "Do you have what it takes to be a CIA agent?" Gee, subtle.

Brad Pitt's character was named "Bishop." Get it? David Atlee Phillips' handle when he was seen with Oswald by Antonio Veciana? Real incidents, like CIA terrorist bombings, were mirrored but with justifications and Brad Pitt affirming them.

The same devices are in all Clooney's movies.
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Postby Searcher08 » Sat May 17, 2008 3:39 pm

I am curious what you thought of Michael Clayton, Hugh?

I came away from it thinking it was a *very* anti-CIA film
<WARNING _ SPOILERS IN NEXT PARAGRAPH!!!>

He is shown to be constantly fucked over by people, to be very dysfunctional, to have little or no conscience in what he does - until the end where he un-aligns himself from corporate interests and his *firm* - he loses everything - his career, his money, everything except his re-discovered integrity.


Second point was around Dean Radin and his experiments regarding intentionality and food (specifically chocolate) - please can you point out the flaw in his approach regarding the experiment as it seems to me quite a rigorous double-blind placebo-controlled trial?

Edited to include link to paper
http://www.intentionalchocolate.com/files/article_explore.pdf
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Radin creates dangle bait for naive do-gooders

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Sat May 17, 2008 4:33 pm

Searcher08 wrote:I am curious what you thought of Michael Clayton, Hugh?


2007 released movie with JFK/CIA subliminal themes used as preparation conditioning for the 2008 45th anniversary of the murder of JFK with heavy CIA involvement.

Know anything about Robert Clayton Buick? Heavy JFK story.
(Buick is an Americanization of a foreign name he adopted. "Robert and Buick" are pedestrian names compared to "Clayton" which stands out mnemonically.)

He's got a website and a 2007 book out about his role in the Oswald/JFK saga.
http://robertclaytonbuick.com/

He was an American bull fighter in Mexico asked by a couple of US spooks to watch a certain "Alex Hidell" who was really Lee Harvey Oswald. After lots of hell, he ended up raising horses.
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Hence the western themes in Clooney's movie.

Robert Clayton Buick's story is told in and is a subset of the even more dangerous-to-CIA triple-agent Richard Case Nagell story revealed by Dick Russell in his 1992 book, 'The Man Who Knew Too Much.'
Hence the complicated moral allegience issues in Clooney's movie.

Remember, most Americans see a movie title and poster in ads, not the actual movie.
The subliminal psy-ops framing starts there.

This all explains the motto of Clooney's acclaimed movie, "The Truth Can be Adjusted."
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He is shown to be constantly fucked over by people, to be very dysfunctional, to have little or no conscience in what he does - until the end where he un-aligns himself from corporate interests and his *firm* - he loses everything - his career, his money, everything except his re-discovered integrity.


That's an accurate description of what happened to both Richard Case Nagell and Robert Clayton Buick.

I can't wait to watch that Clooney movie with a pause button, pen and paper.
I'll bet its dense with JFK triggers and negative framing of whistleblowers.

Second point was around Dean Radin and his experiments regarding intentionality and food (specifically chocolate) - please can you point out the flaw in his approach regarding the experiment as it seems to me quite a rigorous double-blind placebo-controlled trial?

Edited to include link to paper
http://www.intentionalchocolate.com/files/article_explore.pdf


Ah, the alleged power of wishful thinking. How obvious is that?
That's a psy-ops goal referred to in military psychological warfare doctrine, to safely channel potential adversaries (too many of whom are New Agey naive) into safe harbors.

The CIA would like to convince you that if you just feel good and pray that you will miraculously save the world. So don't bother with the hard work of activism.
So the tactic is to tell loving people that "all you need is love."
Which is great to have but not all you need to put some brakes on fascism.

Related-
Hope! Hope! Hope! (see umpteen Obama threads)

Some demographics, like women and youth and intelligent cultural creatives on the West Coast, are especially resistant to warrior culture and inclined to be peace and justice types so the CIA makes sure they have some safe palliatives to occupy them that are no threat to fascism. A place for these good people to gather and assuage each other's tension is a perfect social control device which only needs to be initiated to have it gather its own social momentum.

The CIA's social science advisors in places like Stanford Research Institute make lots of use of faux spirituality cobbled together from old superstitions ("ancient wisdom") and bogus or just irrelevant science ("progress into the unknown") as dangle for inquisitive minds who do gather around the pretty rose-scented dangle thereby reinforcing the ruse with social affirmation and keeping the disinfo narrative alive to discredit peaceniks, 'conspiracy theorists,' and anyone who leaves the mainstream of CIA-enforced corporate warrior culture.

Even satisfying the brain's pleasure center with immediate gratification self-medications like CHOCOLATE, nicotine, alcohol, french fries, etc. can reduce the stress that might build up to a threshold of being pissed off about fascism and itching to do something substantial about it.

But there's more reason for Radin to this psy-ops about chocolate.
A good trick of conditioning is to get the target to associate something in their every day life that they will see often with your psy-ops message.

So getting people to think that just feeling good will save the world can be reinforced everytime they have some chocolate...which is often when they feel down...and might turn revolutionary.

This is the same conditioning principle used by whoever pulled of 9/11.
They knew that "911" is a common vocabulary word for emergencies that call for uniformed men to respond. So carrying out the crime on that date guaraneted the constant retriggering of the psy-ops message to sustain support for a long oil war.

"PSI" or "ESP" or "clairvoyance" or "psychic powers" is a huge "entangled" disinfo topic and debunking Radin's alleged experiments on wishful thinking and CHOCOLATE is designed to be an energy sink that proves nothing and is hard to prove that it proves nothing.

This disinfo field has been developed over the last few decades to poison the well of public inquiry into military science but ESPECIALLY to draw people away from the very real social science of PSYOPS, which is REALLY how people's minds are influenced "over distances."

I recommend reading Radin's 2006 book 'Entangled Minds' which is full of 9/11 disinfo and decoy mirrors of media psyops I write about also called "PSI" but an acronym for "parasocial interaction." Radin's book has pictures of experiment subjects facing a TV for some fake experiment on "effecting minds at a distance" and this is the equivalent of a big memetic keyword hijacking.
"Remote viewing." Get it?

Radin weaves unfounded links with old superstition and near-mystical "quantum reality" to leave the naive reader thinking that science is proving something in the middle that must mean that we really are psychics.

Radin is baffling readers with...wishful thinking and using a scientific accent, an old snake-oil trick simply put in modern clothes. And this is for CIA.

To illustrate the value of decoy woo when reality gets dangerous, it was in 1966, a year when the JFK cover-up was coming apart with Mark Lane's best-selling book, 'Rush to Judgement' and Richard Popkin's book, 'The Second Oswald' that there was an uptick in using "ESP" in masking CIA's exploitation of psychology.
"Silva Mind Control, Key to Inner Kingdoms Through Psychorientology" was published with lots of mystical nonsense about "precognition" and a tiny bit of real hypnosis was woven together along with...keyword and thematic hijackings of JFK narrative like Rose Cheramie who warned that JFK was going to be killed because she'd been with the plotters.

See how useful "ESP" and "precognition" is in a world of political conspiracy we aren't supposed to know about?

I have "PSI Research" disinfo publications from 1984 citing Radin's buddy Targ in "ESP" experiments and there's lots of citation of unknown experimenters in Eastern Europe.

See, if the commies are doing it it is because they are soooo dangerously ahead of us and we must do it too! A classic Cold War disinfo feedback loop designed to muddle Americans and make the Soviets expend energy making sure the US wasn't doing something they should be able to.

'Remote viewing' also sounds like...the mundane use of...satellite surveillance which took off in the 1980s.
Tom Bearden's "scalar enegy" nonsense in the 1980s was decoy science, too.
This is all part of the larger 'Mind War' doctrine espoused by Lt. Col. Michael Aquino.

At spook orgs like the Institute for Noetic Sciences ("Noetic" sounds like a cross between "know" and "poetry" so it must be On Our Side!) the CIA loves to study believers. What is really studied is the participants in bogus experiments and the audience, not the experiment's results.

Perfect. A moral sponge for do-gooders can trap people and discredit them and sustain an intellectual drain-off from studying real political science which is all about mass psychology and psy-ops media.


...I hope this answers your question, Searcher.
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Postby orz » Sat May 17, 2008 4:37 pm

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Interesting poster, somewhat reminds me of Jenny Holzer's artwork.
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Postby Searcher08 » Sat May 17, 2008 6:53 pm

Thank you very much for your detailed reply, Hugh - I will reflect on it

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Postby teamdaemon » Sun May 18, 2008 3:28 pm

Now he's reinforcing the frikkin' clairvoyance woo woo disinfo (PSI!) that Dean Radin peddles for CIA.


So, I was wondering if you could point to any evidence of him doing this simply because the CIA told him to. I have no idea what you mean by "woo woo", but I found his book Entangled Minds to be very informative and helpful in understanding many experiences that I have had. Just because you can't understand something doesn't mean that the CIA wants you to believe in it.

It does severely discredit him to be featured in "What the Bleep" Ramtha bullshit. Infiltration of genuine paranormal research is common from spooks and also people who are simply egocentric and greedy and trying to take advantage. You seem to have the attitude that there is nothing useful under all that, but why would they go to so much trouble to use disinformation if that were the case? If you think that psychic phenomena are completely fabricated, then that shows ignorance on your part.
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Postby teamdaemon » Sun May 18, 2008 3:44 pm

A place for these good people to gather and assuage each other's tension is a perfect social control device which only needs to be initiated to have it gather its own social momentum.


What a horrible thing, this place where people relieve themselves of tension! I wish I felt worse then everyone else, then I could try to make everyone else as tense and paranoid as I was and then congratulate myself afterwards.
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Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Sun May 18, 2008 7:12 pm

teamdaemon wrote:
A place for these good people to gather and assuage each other's tension is a perfect social control device which only needs to be initiated to have it gather its own social momentum.


What a horrible thing, this place where people relieve themselves of tension! I wish I felt worse then everyone else, then I could try to make everyone else as tense and paranoid as I was and then congratulate myself afterwards.


Ever heard of "bread and circuses?" It's on old ruling concept worth looking up.
America's Army Corps of Social Engineering retooled after losing control of the masses during the Vietnam War.

Keeping anti-war people from influencing pro-war people is the goal.

Regulating emotions like frustration and hostility and depression and confusion and complacency and hope are all done in very deliberate and scientific ways to different demographics for national security purposes
-to get some people to go to war
-and get others to not prevent them from doing so.
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Postby justdrew » Sun May 18, 2008 7:27 pm

Woo is a verb meaning to seek out or solicit (usually) the affections of someone (see courtship). It is also a slang term used to voice a certain amount of excitement. - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woo



as usual I find it a case of yes AND no, or both. there are no doubt "more things in heaven and earth..." and people's own experiences are what they are, but also it's a field that has long been a playground for charlatans and intelligence operatives predating even John Dee. Coast to Coast nightly ensures a large sleep deprived population of would be truth knowers subjecting them to shake and bake stream of endless BS that has led nowhere.
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well

Postby smiths » Sun May 18, 2008 8:00 pm

well just for the record i completely disagree with you hugh,

i reckon michael clayton was a really good film,
the agribusiness company is an amoral vicious killer,
clayton is not portrayed as clean heroic character,
theres fuck all to do with the cia, oswald, jfk or any of that shit,

i honestly suggest that you watch the film first before casting your judgement, and dont bother with the pen and paper,
just enjoy it for the good film it is
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Postby professorpan » Mon May 19, 2008 12:03 am

i honestly suggest that you watch the film first before casting your judgement, and dont bother with the pen and paper,
just enjoy it for the good film it is


Ha! I think the chance of that happening is about the same as a steel building collapsing at free-fall speed after being hit by a jet plane....
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Re: Clooney = CIA conduit.

Postby 8bitagent » Mon May 19, 2008 5:21 am

Heres the documentary based on The Men Who Stare At Goats:
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=c ... itesearch=

One of the main guys from that whole high level military psi field,
helped train one of the 9/11 "hijackers" Ziad Jarrah in the art of occult
combat touch kill.

Another one, General Struble, now claims that "no plane hit the pentagon".

Hugh Manatee Wins wrote:All Clooney's movies for years have had a CIA subtext.
I should do Clooney movie thread showing all the CIA subtext.

He's being used to inject psy-ops into the public mind because he's America's uber-male James Bond figure.

Now he's reinforcing the frikkin' clairvoyance woo woo disinfo (PSI!) that Dean Radin peddles for CIA.
Crap. Total sabotage of rational critical thinking which is the enemy of the state.
Clooney's even working with the UN now. Just entertainment...right.

This is something that happens to the top echelon of Hollywood leading men - their guaranteed audience makes them a perfect spook delivery system using their scripts.
Same thing happened to Robert Redford, Ahnuld, Tom Cruise, Nicholas Cage, etc.

Robert Redford's 2001 movie, 'Spy Game,' was nothing but a CIA recruiting film with Redford mentoring Brad Pitt into CIA. Two age levels of parasocial interaction with CIA.

The ads for the 'Spy Game' DVD/game accessories even said, "Do you have what it takes to be a CIA agent?" Gee, subtle.

Brad Pitt's character was named "Bishop." Get it? David Atlee Phillips' handle when he was seen with Oswald by Antonio Veciana? Real incidents, like CIA terrorist bombings, were mirrored but with justifications and Brad Pitt affirming them.

The same devices are in all Clooney's movies.


Look at all these films:

The Peacemaker(about trying to stop terrorists)
Syriana(CIA)
Confessions of A Dangerous Mind(CIA)
Spykids(CIA For Kids?)
Good Luck and Good Night(Mccarthy era CBS debacle)
Michael Clayton(corporate crimes and coverups)
Burn After Reading(upcoming movie about the CIA)

Very interesting.

I guess if you make a movie about the CIA, he's your go to guy.
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