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Pentagon 'UFO hacker' faces 60 years if extradited

Postby Jeff » Sun Jul 27, 2008 1:20 am

The Briton facing 60 years in US prison after hacking into Pentagon

On the eve of a Lords ruling over US demands for his extradition, a British computer hacker claims that American prosecutors threatened to haul him before a military tribunal

Jamie Doward, home affairs editor
The Observer, Sunday July 27 2008


When he wakes up this morning, Gary McKinnon will be 72 hours from learning whether he is on the fast track to a 60-year prison sentence, thanks to his obsession with aliens.

McKinnon, 42, from Enfield in north London, is accused by American prosecutors of illegally accessing top-secret computer systems in what they claimed in one legal document was 'the biggest military computer hack of all time'.

The self-taught IT expert insists he was simply looking for information the US government had on UFOs and is adamant that he never damaged any of its computer systems. This argument, however, cuts little ice with the Americans, who are trying to extradite him. Five years after being told by British police that he would probably get a six-month community service order for his exploits, McKinnon finds himself still wanted by the US authorities. A 2006 High Court ruling granted the extradition request, and on Wednesday the House of Lords will decide on McKinnon's appeal against that ruling.

That it should come to this is little short of outrageous, say his supporters. Soon after he was arrested in 2002, US prosecutors appeared to offer McKinnon a deal: if he agreed to extradition and admitted his guilt, he would get a sentence of three to four years, most of which could be served in the UK. When McKinnon rejected the offer - made in confidential meetings at the US embassy - his lawyers were told 'all bets were off'. They claim the US prosecutors upped the stakes, suggesting he would be 'treated like a terrorist' if he did not agree to face trial and plead guilty in the US.

McKinnon claims that at one stage there were suggestions that he would face a military tribunal, possibly at Guantánamo Bay. 'They said they wanted to see me fry,' he said.

McKinnon's lawyers claim that attempts to force him to accept a plea bargain constituted 'an unlawful abuse of the court process'.

A Lords ruling in favour of McKinnon, who has become a cause célèbre for UFO enthusiasts, computer users and civil liberties groups, would force US prosecutors to restart their extradition process in the magistrates' courts, a major setback that could have ramifications for other Britons resisting removal to the US. A ruling against him would mean an appeal to the European Court of Human Rights and leave him in legal limbo, banned from travelling abroad, forced to report to police every Friday, and barred from accessing the internet.

In a further twist, it has emerged that a crucial file containing details of the early meetings with the US prosecutors, at which the offers were apparently made, has gone missing from the office of McKinnon's solicitor. A laptop holding details of the same meetings was stolen from the car of one of his barristers.

The revelations have prompted febrile speculation among McKinnon's supporters, who fear that events have taken a sinister turn. McKinnon believes his phone has been bugged and claims to have been followed. As a result of his exploits, no IT company will now offer McKinnon a job. 'I think it's bloody ridiculous,' he said. 'They should employ me to bust paedophile rings or credit card frauds rather than stick me in jail for the rest of my life.'

These days he earns a living driving a fork-lift truck. It seems a mundane job for a man who between 1999 and 2002 broke into the most secure computer systems in the world from his north London flat. Using a computer language called Perl and a cheap PC, McKinnon linked a number of computer systems to search for US databases that were not protected by a password. 'I could scan 65,000 machines in less than nine minutes,' McKinnon said.

McKinnon unearthed unprotected computer systems operated by the US army, the navy, the Pentagon and Nasa. On every system he hacked, he left messages. 'It was frightening because they had little or no security,' he said. 'I was always leaving messages on the desktop saying, "your security is really crap".'

One message has come back to haunt him. 'I said US foreign policy was akin to government-sponsored terrorism and I believed 9/11 was an inside job. It was a political diatribe,' he admitted.

In the end, the ease with which he could hack the systems became his undoing. 'I got sloppy. I went to places directly rather than jump through systems. Nasa tracked back my IP address.'

McKinnon's interest in aliens was started by an internet-based group of UFO enthusiasts called The Disclosure Project. The group had collected more than 200 testimonies - some from people who have served in the US military - that 'confirm' that extra-terrestrials exist. Not only that but, according to McKinnon, some of the testimonies offered proof that 'certain parts of Western intelligence had acquired and reverse-engineered their technology, mainly weaponry and free energy'.

Intrigued, McKinnon used the testimonies to help him search top-secret US databases for information about free energy. 'I felt if it existed it should be publicly available,' he said. He says he came across many other hackers in the supposedly secure systems, many with Chinese and Russian internet addresses. Since his exploits were exposed, consecutive government reports have confirmed that the US military's computer systems remain poorly protected.

McKinnon was caught before he could find any confidential information on 'free energy', but he saw enough to believe the US authorities are suppressing what they know about aliens. He says he came across a document written by a Nasa official who claimed the agency has to airbrush UFOs out of satellite photos because 'there are so many of them'.

With only a 56k modem, he found that downloading the huge volume of documents was too time-consuming. But McKinnon claims that he managed to capture almost two-thirds of an image of what he believes was either a UFO or a top-secret US craft operating in space.

The picture was confiscated, along with all the other material McKinnon downloaded. The material included an Excel spreadsheet entitled 'non-terrestrial officers' and a list of names. 'It was a really weird phrase,' McKinnon said. 'Maybe it was the secret development of a space force. Space is the next frontier and it's already being weaponised.'

His hacking career came to an abrupt end one morning in March 2002. The National High Tech Crime Unit searched his flat and arrested McKinnon and his then girlfriend. 'They said "you'll probably get six months' community service",' McKinnon claimed.

In the end the Crown Prosecution Service decided not to prosecute, but two years later, after crime unit officials visited Washington, apparently taking McKinnon's hard drive, the US government began extradition proceedings. 'Now I'm facing 60 years in prison,' McKinnon said. 'I believe my case is being treated so seriously because they're scared of what I've seen. I'm living in a surreal, nutter's film.'

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Postby pepsified thinker » Sun Jul 27, 2008 9:55 am

Not that it's any help to him, or even a necessary 'either/or' call, but I wonder how much of U.S. officials' concern is about what he saw, as opposed to what he can do?

Using a computer language called Perl and a cheap PC, McKinnon linked a number of computer systems to search for US databases that were not protected by a password. 'I could scan 65,000 machines in less than nine minutes,' McKinnon said.


Tie this in with what the recent Salon article (discussed here: http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board/viewtopic.php?t=19446)offered in terms of mis-use of MAIN CORE (not that there's a 'proper' use) and the govt.'s need for high-powered search programs, and McKinnon might either have seen something, or be of use--if he were 'pressed' into cooperation.

Add to that his having embarassed people (people with power),

McKinnon unearthed unprotected computer systems operated by the US army, the navy, the Pentagon and Nasa. On every system he hacked, he left messages. 'It was frightening because they had little or no security,' he said. 'I was always leaving messages on the desktop saying, "your security is really crap".'


... and it's no wonder they're gunning for the guy.

Almost makes me wonder, was he trying to get in trouble? Which isn't to say he deserves the treatment he's received/threatened with.

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Postby justdrew » Sun Jul 27, 2008 1:41 pm

given the new change in British policy to not trust American officials statements that "we don't torture" I'm guessing they're going to at least drag this out to Jan 21st 2009 and have no intention of extraditing him, but it's got to be handled very carefully.

he was just going in with PCanywhere and found all these PCs with not weak security, but basically no security at all. Any "cost" the pentagoons incurred was a long overdue review of and roll out of actual security. They should be thanking him.
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Postby Et in Arcadia ego » Sun Jul 27, 2008 1:44 pm

pepsified thinker wrote:Almost makes me wonder, was he trying to get in trouble? Which isn't to say he deserves the treatment he's received/threatened with.


Hackers are cocky by nature when they're in their element. Hiding behind a keyboard instills a false sense of bravado that rarely carries over into life on the street.
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Postby Penguin » Sun Jul 27, 2008 1:54 pm

When cocky, be bloody sure youre never caught. As he said, "then I got sloppy"...The rest is his story.
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Postby Et in Arcadia ego » Sun Jul 27, 2008 2:04 pm

Cockiness and carelessness go hand in hand, though. Once in the system, its not surprising the rush of being inside made him sloppy. Its entirely probable that the ease with which he was able to penetrate the system was made that way on purpose, like laying a snare. He may even have been 'coralled' into the area where he found all the weird stuff; I just don't see the Pentagram leaving critical stuff like that in the main system; access to any of that material would be under critical restrictions and probably off the internal network altogether. That's just common sense speaking here. If I ran IT at the place, I'd have that stuff set on dedicated nodes that had their own exclusive network and no outside lines at all.

All the documents he claimed to have come across could have been outright dummies planted on purpose; these people aren't stupid, man..

I don't see how he'd ever be able to present a valid case for what he read when its 100% anecdotal and possibly fake documents to begin with.
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Postby barracuda » Sun Jul 27, 2008 2:09 pm

et in Arcadia ego wrote:I don't see how he'd ever be able to present a valid case for what he read when its 100% anecdotal and possibly fake documents to begin with.

He's either been talking out of his hat, or he is being used as an disinformation conduit. Or he just forgot to hit "print" during all the excitement.
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Postby Et in Arcadia ego » Sun Jul 27, 2008 2:12 pm

barracuda wrote:he is being used as an disinformation conduit.


A smart Pentagramer would never pass up the opportunity to exploit cheap(free) labor.

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Postby justdrew » Sun Jul 27, 2008 2:27 pm

he was just a bored young man smoking a lot of weed and scanning blocks of IP addresses for open remote control ports, he says he wasn't even trying to brute-force passwords, they were unprotected... Most real data would be stored not in files on those PCs but behind another layer of usernames and passwords in other systems accessible from those PCs, but Garry wouldn't have been able to get into them, he might have been able to watch someone else physiclly at the PC access those systems though. He says he wasn't typically opening files even and doesn't remember much of anything he saw, since the vast majority was completely uninteresting or clouded in so much specialized lingo not much could be known from the filenames. It's also possible he got into a honeypot as Et suggests.

anyway, as for the non-terrestrial officers thing, Terrestrial refers to things having to do with the land or the Earth. It's entirely possible that the US Space Command (or whatever it's called today) refers to people who's responsibilities are for satellites and orbital monitoring as non-Terrestrial.

so the whole thing's a tempest in a teapot, and the pentagon's done more damage to itself by making a big deal out of this than Garry could possibly have done, had he wanted to or tried to do any, which he didn't. They should let him serve some light punishment in England, and forget about it now, it's been too dragged out to serve as a good 'example' anyway. If they can't get their hands on one kid from Brittan, they've clearly demonstrated they wouldn't be able to get their hands on a Chinese hacker or any hackers working through bot nets or probably anywhere (except perhaps the US). At this point the lesson they're giving is NOT the one they want to be teaching.
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Re: Pentagon 'UFO hacker' faces 60 years if extradited

Postby Sepka » Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:00 pm

Jeff wrote:McKinnon unearthed unprotected computer systems operated by the US army, the navy, the Pentagon and Nasa. On every system he hacked, he left messages.


First, he's not a hacker. He's some idiot script-kiddy running PC-Anywhere, connecting to unsecured systems. What he "broke into" were probably honeypots anyway.

None of that excuses the fact that he deliberately vandalized systems. "On every system he hacked, he left messages". Despite what his supporters claim, that's not just innocently poking around to see what's there. That's writing or editing files on someone else's system, where you're not supposed to be to begin with.

I hope they extradite him, and I hope he spends every second of sixty years in prison. I devoutly wish to see an example made of him.
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Re: Pentagon 'UFO hacker' faces 60 years if extradited

Postby barracuda » Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:05 pm

Sepka wrote: he's not a hacker. He's some idiot script-kiddy running PC-Anywhere, connecting to unsecured systems. What he "broke into" were probably honeypots anyway... I hope he spends every second of sixty years in prison. I devoutly wish to see an example made of him.


Sepka, you grind your teeth. I can hear it from here. Why so serious about this idiot script-kiddy anyway? Did he mess with one of your systems?
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Re: Pentagon 'UFO hacker' faces 60 years if extradited

Postby Eldritch » Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:18 pm

Sepka wrote:I hope they extradite him, and I hope he spends every second of sixty years in prison. I devoutly wish to see an example made of him.


And I wonder what consequences you yourself might expect, Sepka, if your karmic crimes against compassion were to be weighed, and then you penalized for them. Given the cruelty you frequently wish upon individuals—entire nations, even!—I can imagine such consequences being considerable.

Hopefully there is forgiveness out there for you, and for all of us.
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Postby AhabsOtherLeg » Tue Jul 29, 2008 12:15 am

barracuda wrote:he is being used as an disinformation conduit.


I second (or rather, third, since et In Arcadia ego said it too) that motion.

Actually, I'm not so sure that McKinnon's merely a conduit. I have a feeling the whole story might be disinfo, from start to finish, and McKinnon could merely be doing his job in a role that has been assigned to him. I have the feeling the pentagon might like people to attack it with Pearl over dial-up connections:- it's an easy way to gather a list of who is sufficiently interested.

Mackinnon's certainly had more legal support given on his behalf by the British establishment than your average shoebomber (rulings made in the House of Lords, questions in Parliament, etc) despite the fact that his frequently published findings, if real, would be much more damaging to US and UK security than a single passenger plane going down mid-Atlantic.

Everyone needs an ersatz hero who had backdoor access to all the secret US government files between late 2001 - late 2002. We all feel a natural urge to support such a truthseeker and truth-teller - but maybe that's the point...

Gary McKinnon is clearly a man with a wide-ranging interest in government iniquity. He apparently had access to nearly every US military database for a year. Did he ever see anything of note about Afghanistan? About Iraq? Dare I say it, about 9/11?

He saw nothing about the largest terrorist attack in US history, or about the extensive internal military reactions to it, or anything about future war plans and build-ups?

This is the kind of thing even the most UFO-obsessed person would take a minute to look for while hacking the Pentagon, surely? It seems he didn't bother.

Anti-grav devices. The US Navy in space (that's not even new, though it's still mainly Air Force, obviously).

Lists of extra-terrestrial officers? Mmmmm..... Captain Picard?

Yup, honeypot.

In the past, any self-respecting fortress would feature a moat for attackers to fall into, and a gatehouse from which the defenders could throw boiling oil.

Nowadays they seem to build troughs of fast food on the run-up, and throw sweeties.

It works better.
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Re: Pentagon 'UFO hacker' faces 60 years if extradited

Postby Sepka » Tue Jul 29, 2008 12:47 am

barracuda wrote:Sepka, you grind your teeth. I can hear it from here.


Such keen ears! :)
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Re: Pentagon 'UFO hacker' faces 60 years if extradited

Postby Sepka » Tue Jul 29, 2008 1:14 am

Eldritch wrote:And I wonder what consequences you yourself might expect, Sepka, if your karmic crimes against compassion were to be weighed, and then you penalized for them. Given the cruelty you frequently wish upon individuals—entire nations, even!—I can imagine such consequences being considerable.

Hopefully there is forgiveness out there for you, and for all of us.


I'll reserve my compassion for decent people. Soldiers, policemen, farmers, factory workers, shopkeepers - all of the millions of people who work, and obey the law, and contribute to society instead of setting themselves against it. They never really seem to excite the shallow romanticism of the coffee-house left in the way that convicted murderers, anarchists, terrorists, and any other variety of gutter-sweeping so reliably can, yet they're what the world depends on. It's not people like Gary McKinnon who make the internet run, or who make food appear in your neighborhood market, or who enable you to enjoy your own property without someone stronger taking it from you. People like Gary McKinnon make these things less certain, not safer. I bear the man and his works no good will, and I'll sleep the sleep of the just.
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