Echelon Spoofer

lightningBugout · Post by **lightningBugout** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:55 pm

From: ECHELON SPOOFER

Echelon Spoofer: Why This Site Exists

Spoofing ECHELON helps in a number of ways:

If enough people did this the ECHELON system would be overwhelmed and would grind to a halt. In addition, the inclusion of thousands or millions of extra messages with the keywords in the would increase the signal-to-noise level of the whole system while providing lots of "false positives", making the ECHELON system less and less reliable over time.

We suggest that when sending an email, grab a chunk of the ECHELON keywords and paste them into your email message at the top or bottom. In theory, this will cause decreased effectiveness of the ECHELON system since it has to deal with and process more communicaton containing the keywords.

JackRiddler · Post by **JackRiddler** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:31 pm

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Now seriously: We all know what Google can do. The NSA computers must be anwhere from 10 to 10,000 times bigger and faster than the Google search servers, right? And they've got tens of thousands of personnel, theoretically they only need one to spend all day identifying spoof paste-texts (and new spam) and setting the machine to filter out such noise. I don't see this gumming up the works. (You can probably think of a few obvious things obvious that would gum it up, but are unmentionable here.) Otherwise the upper limit is in what the personnel can process, not the machine. If 20 million people decided to make up random suspicious-sounding shit individually, maybe that would work.

lightningBugout · Post by **lightningBugout** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:57 pm

Wholly agreed (and you are probably being conservative in your estimates) but I liked the spirit of it.....

justdrew · Post by **justdrew** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 12:38 am

in concept it's somewhat like the 10% subversion factor (which I can not find a source of where I heard the concept originally) but it goes like this: If just 10% of people stop going along with the system, it'll break down. Like if 10% stopped paying their electric bill, they wouldn't be able to cope with shutting off that many people at once, would disrupt their cash flow, etc. - hey... or if 10% stopped paying their mortgages!

I've always been suspicious of a financial instrument with Mort in the name.

brainpanhandler · Post by **brainpanhandler** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 5:26 am

Like if 10% stopped paying their electric bill, they wouldn't be able to cope with shutting off that many people at once, would disrupt their cash flow, etc.

Now that is power.

or if 10% stopped paying their mortgages!

I've always been suspicious of a financial instrument with Mort in the name.

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elfismiles · Post by **elfismiles** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 11:06 am

justdrew wrote:in concept it's somewhat like the 10% subversion factor (which I can not find a source of where I heard the concept originally) but it goes like this: If just 10% of people stop going along with the system, it'll break down. Like if 10% stopped paying their electric bill, they wouldn't be able to cope with shutting off that many people at once, would disrupt their cash flow, etc. - hey... or if 10% stopped paying their mortgages!

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Endomorph · Post by **Endomorph** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 11:14 am

Emacs's "ESC-x spook" function has been around for a long time. I think I ran across it in 1990 or so, when Echelon was still just a rumor.

http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manua ... ments.html

http://www.cypherspace.org/adam/rsa/spook.html

MinM · Post by **MinM** » Sun Mar 01, 2009 10:13 am

Echelon Conspiracy looks like...

'Eagle Eye'

Hugh Manatee Wins · Post by **Hugh Manatee Wins** » Sun Mar 01, 2009 2:49 pm

'No, Obama, don't roll back surveillance cuz your buddy bin Laden will get away!'

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Echelon_Conspiracy

...one man, two buildings...an actor's name, "BURNS," on the poster...embedded negative picture of a black man...

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"A young American engineer acquires a cell phone that promises him unknown wealth, unsuspecting the danger that comes upon him with the cell phone. In the course of the film is tries to escape security agents, risking his life. Meanwhile a government official endangers the stability of the world."

operator kos · Post by **operator kos** » Sun Mar 01, 2009 5:00 pm

Hugh Manatee Wins wrote:

whoa... that is some serious, in-your-face fuckery. hopefully to be somewhat countered in the public psyche by the false-flag stuff in the upcoming watchmen.

Joe Hillshoist · Post by **Joe Hillshoist** » Sun Mar 01, 2009 7:45 pm

justdrew wrote:or if 10% stopped paying their mortgages!

I've always been suspicious of a financial instrument with Mort in the name.

Didn't that just happen?

Penguin · Post by **Penguin** » Mon Mar 02, 2009 5:00 am

Endomorph wrote:Emacs's "ESC-x spook" function has been around for a long time. I think I ran across it in 1990 or so, when Echelon was still just a rumor.

http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manua ... ments.html

http://www.cypherspace.org/adam/rsa/spook.html

The nerds have a lot in common with more tin foil hat types...

And did I mention you should use encryption in your personal communications? I did? Yeah those guys said that too, 20 years ago.

Nobody listens.
("Why should I encrypt my MSN? I dont do anything blah blah blah" "Because you CAN. And if everyone did it, we would have some privacy!")

http://www.gnupg.org/ Gnu Privacy Guard
http://www.pidgin.im/ Universal Chat Client (MSN, AIM, Yahoo, IRC...)
and encryption plugin for that:
http://www.cypherpunks.ca/otr/
(Works with Windows and Linux, for Apple there is Adium -)
http://www.adiumx.com/

Full drive encryption, USB drives, etc:
http://www.truecrypt.org/

vigilant · Post by **vigilant** » Mon Mar 02, 2009 5:20 am

god bless lightningBugout for bringing this, and God bless Penguin for digging it up from the archives.

I am so sorry to bring the wrath of God down upon you for your efforts, but when you fly into the face of God, so be it your fate...

I fly, as your guardian angel, to combat the evil from your wings...God should not be such a nasty devil, but I have his pitchfork.......