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Julius Baer CEO: "Commits suicide"?

PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 7:48 pm
by Penguin
Via Kevin at Cryptogon:

Kevin sez: See Wikileaks data on Baer:
http://wikileaks.org/wiki/Bank_Julius_Baer

http://www.reuters.com/article/ousiv/id ... 05?sp=true

"Alex Widmer, the chief executive of Bank Julius Baer and a well respected figure in Swiss private banking, has died unexpectedly at the age of 52, the bank said.

A source told Reuters he had been informed by close friends of Widmer’s family that the banker had committed suicide.

Swiss news website 20Minuten cited two unnamed independent sources as saying it was a case of suicide.

Swiss police declined to comment on the death.

Julius Baer, Switzerland’s biggest dedicated wealth manager which has roots dating back to the 19th century, is based in Zurich and manages more than 360 billion Swiss francs ($300.8 billion) in assets for rich individuals and institutions.

A spokesman said there was no link between Widmer’s death and the group’s current activities, but declined to give further details on the cause of Widmer’s death overnight on Wednesday, saying it was a private matter.

The Swiss news agency SDA said Widmer’s wife died from cancer in 2005.

A second source said employees at the bank had been told Widmer had died from an unspecified illness. Widmer had three children.

“Alex Widmer was the very epitome of a Swiss private banker,” Julius Baer said in a statement.

“It is a great shame,” added a Zurich-based trader. “It is very sad. He embodied Julius Baer. He was the most important person in private banking.”

By 1119 GMT, shares in Julius Baer had fallen some 6.5 percent to 34.60 Swiss francs, underperforming a 1.5 percent drop in the DJ Stoxx index of European banking stocks .

Widmer will be succeeded by Hans de Gier, who served as the CEO of Julius Baer Group until September 2008 when he stepped down to focus on his role as chairman of hedge fund unit GAM.

“This is a setback for the bank. Widmer is widely regarded as the architect of its new direction,” Claude Zehnder, a ZKB trading analyst said.

“However, with De Gier they have someone very experienced in place who knows the bank inside out,” he said.

HEDGE FUNDS WEIGHS

Shares in Julius Baer have lost some 60 percent in 2008 as markets have worried about outflows at its hedge fund GAM, which accelerated in October.

Julius Baer has rejected speculation that it would shed GAM as it restructured its business to focus on wealth management, which has benefited from problems at rival Swiss bank UBS, which has seen strong outflows of money to clients scared by its heavy writedowns.

The company said in July that it no longer needed a group CEO after restructuring measures meant that Bank Julius Baer, GAM and U.S. asset management unit Artio Global would each operate as independently managed companies. Bank Julius Baer accounts for over 60 percent of group assets under management.

A GAM spokesman said De Gier will remain as GAM chairman in addition to taking on the Bank Julius Baer CEO role.

One trader said Widmer’s death could lead to “massive uncertainty among investors as a vacuum on the executive level happens in the worst possible time,” adding that takeover rumors could resurface in the future.

In November, the bank said net operating income to the end of October was down 10 percent from the previous year as assets under management were hit by falling markets, though private banking net inflows had risen significantly in the year to date.

In an interview with Bloomberg conducted the day before his death, Widmer said: “Even if global wealth creation is getting slower, we should do better than the rest.”

CHARISMATIC LEADER

Commenting on Widmer’s death, Chairman Raymond Baer said in a statement: “We have lost a dear friend, a good colleague and a charismatic leader.”

“Alex very successfully opened up new dimensions for the Private Banking business of Julius Baer. His enormous commitment, his active relationship and close involvement with the clients and his passion for banking will forever serve as a model for us,” Baer said.

Widmer joined the Julius Baer Group in 2005 as a member of the executive board and head of private banking and became the CEO of Bank Julius Baer in November 2007.

The bulk of his career was spent at Credit Suisse, where he worked for 19 years, as global head of private banking from 2002 to 2005 and as a member of the executive board.

Before that he was the chief executive of Credit Suisse’s Asia-Pacific and Middle East business. He also worked in Tokyo and New York early in his career after gaining a doctorate in economics from the prestigious St. Gallen university in 1985."

PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 11:58 pm
by vigilant
Let me be the first to voice an opinion that I "know" is shared by many...

"fuck the bastard and i'm glad he was miserable enough to off himself"


now let the parade begin of people that will tell me how horrible I am for voicing such an opinion.

and as you do i'll simply think of the MILLIONS OF STARVING, BLEEDING, DESOLATE SOULS HE PUT IN MISERY

and i won't care....what you say......

its a great day in the neighborhood.....fuck him.......

PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 4:38 am
by Penguin
Well, my reason for posting that was not that I was sorry for him :D
Rot in that pile of mammon of his....

Re: Julius Baer CEO: "Commits suicide"?

PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 9:08 am
by Fat Lady Singing
Penguin wrote:Via Kevin at Cryptogon:

Kevin sez: See Wikileaks data on Baer:
http://wikileaks.org/wiki/Bank_Julius_Baer



Thanks for the link, Penguin! I've been led now in some interesting directions. Here's a quote from a 2006 Wall St. Journal article:

Last summer, Gianpiero Fiorani, former chief executive of Banca Popolare Italiana Scarl, shifted some assets to Singapore from Jersey, an offshore banking center that also came under EU pressure. He had assets with various banks and used Banco di Lugano, the Swiss bank now called Banca Julius Baer (Lugano) SA, to move the assets. Mr. Fiorani was arrested in December in Milan and remains jailed pending an investigation into suspected market manipulation and misuse of corporate funds. When he was questioned by prosecutors, he told them he had shifted the funds "to better protect the money" and for "peace of mind," according to a person familiar with the matter. His lawyers declined to comment, as did the spokeswoman for the Monetary Authority of Singapore. A spokesman for Julius Baer said the bank is cooperating with investigators.

http://snipurl.com/7ekvx


Which then led me here to this Citi press release:
Banco Popolare Scarl and Citi Expand Custody Relationship

Verona/ London, December 12, 2007 – Banco Popolare Scarl, one of the largest banking groups in Italy, and Citi, the leading global financial services company, today announced they have expanded their existing custody relationship to include the assets of Banco Popolare Scarl's institutional asset manager clients.

"Over the years, Citi has demonstrated it is a provider who meets Banco Popolare Scarl's objectives of increasing operational efficiencies while providing economies of scale. We are delighted to continue doing business with them," said Mariateresa Chiecchi, Head of Administration Services at Banco Popolare Societa' di Servizi.

"Citi is pleased that Banco Popolare Scarl has chosen to deepen its relationship with us. The appointment underscores Citi's commitment to provide best in class solutions by establishing long-lasting relationships with our clients," said Patrizia Rizzo, Head of Citi's Global Transaction Services business in Italy.

http://snipurl.com/7elaf


Then I headed on over to Clearstream via BCCI, with a side trip to P2 and a brief stopover at Glencore (headquartered in Baar, Switzerland) on wikipedia, just to refresh my memory.

I was surprised by just how much motherfuckery Citi has been up to over the years. It's probably not news to most of the rest of you, but I'm gonna go ahead and guess that lots of the current crisis has been engineered by Citi, which is poised to become one of the biggest whatever-it-is in the world but is also, somehow simultaneously, on the brink of collapse itself.

I'm also going to guess that Alex Widmer, who spent "the bulk of his career...at Credit Suisse" (see above WSJ article), was a man who knew entirely too much.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 10:16 am
by Searcher08
My understanding from both Danny Casolaro's research and what Indira Singh has been researching, is that the centre of the worldwide 'Octopus' lies not in Wall Street, London or Tel Aviv, but in.... Switzerland

http://www.bis.org/about/functions.htm

Both were told that going into this area would get them killed.

Re: Julius Baer CEO: "Commits suicide"?

PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 10:43 am
by MinM
Fat Lady Singing wrote:
"Citi is pleased that Banco Popolare Scarl has chosen to deepen its relationship with us. The appointment underscores Citi's commitment to provide best in class solutions by establishing long-lasting relationships with our clients," said Patrizia Rizzo, Head of Citi's Global Transaction Services business in Italy.

http://snipurl.com/7elaf


Then I headed on over to Clearstream via BCCI, with a side trip to P2 and a brief stopover at Glencore (headquartered in Baar, Switzerland) on wikipedia, just to refresh my memory.

I was surprised by just how much motherfuckery Citi has been up to over the years. It's probably not news to most of the rest of you, but I'm gonna go ahead and guess that lots of the current crisis has been engineered by Citi, which is poised to become one of the biggest whatever-it-is in the world but is also, somehow simultaneously, on the brink of collapse itself.

I'm also going to guess that Alex Widmer, who spent "the bulk of his career...at Credit Suisse" (see above WSJ article), was a man who knew entirely too much.

You overlay the details on what happened to these two competitors of American Express and things look mighty suspicious. I have always thought there was probably a CIA link. My guess is that the CIA probably uses Amex as a front for operations overseas, and both Safra and Deak somehow got in the way. My friends know my opinion on this.One night I am out with them and we run into a high level international Citibank employee. One of my friends urges me to tell him my theory, so I do. I finish my story and am ready for the Citi banker to start shooting it down. Instead, he glances into the distance and says, "Sometimes I think Citibank is part of the CIA".
economic policy journal

http://rigorousintuition.ca/board/viewtopic.php?t=21165

Re: Julius Baer CEO: "Commits suicide"?

PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 10:53 am
by Fat Lady Singing
MinM wrote:
You overlay the details on what happened to these two competitors of American Express and things look mighty suspicious. I have always thought there was probably a CIA link. My guess is that the CIA probably uses Amex as a front for operations overseas, and both Safra and Deak somehow got in the way. My friends know my opinion on this.One night I am out with them and we run into a high level international Citibank employee. One of my friends urges me to tell him my theory, so I do. I finish my story and am ready for the Citi banker to start shooting it down. Instead, he glances into the distance and says, "Sometimes I think Citibank is part of the CIA".
economic policy journal

http://rigorousintuition.ca/board/viewtopic.php?t=21165


Hey there, MinM -- thanks for the links! I'll bet that quote was in the back of my head as I was looking at this stuff earlier this morning...

PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 3:23 pm
by Wombaticus Rex
No crowing over his death here.

The thing about these guys being dead -- wether it's suicide or one of us with garden shears and a baseball bat -- is that their death doesn't fix anything. 10,000 men await to take his place, and the end of this life doesn't give anyone anything back.

This is why Changing Minds at the top level is so much more important. Opening a powerful brain up to new ideas is far more valuable than merely killing the body it exists within.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 7:01 pm
by Nordic
vigilant wrote:Let me be the first to voice an opinion that I "know" is shared by many...

"fuck the bastard and i'm glad he was miserable enough to off himself"

its a great day in the neighborhood.....fuck him.......


Well that's a bit prejudicial, don't you think?

One thing I don't like to do is be guilty of prejudice toward my fellow men.

Maybe the guy actually had a conscience. Maybe he really liked banking and was living out his life's dream.

Maybe he had cancer.

Maybe he was a good man, and decided to blow the whistle, and was murdered. In that case, your cheering his death would show rather poor judgement, no?

There's a lot you don't know, in fact, almost everything you don't know.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 9:35 pm
by Penguin
Searcher08 wrote:My understanding from both Danny Casolaro's research and what Indira Singh has been researching, is that the centre of the worldwide 'Octopus' lies not in Wall Street, London or Tel Aviv, but in.... Switzerland

http://www.bis.org/about/functions.htm

Both were told that going into this area would get them killed.


Yeah, one question:

Which country has stayed out of most recent wars, including both World Wars?

Switzerland.

"In 1815 the Congress of Vienna fully re-established Swiss independence and the European powers agreed to permanently recognise Swiss neutrality. The treaty marked the last time that Switzerland fought in an international conflict. The treaty also allowed Switzerland to increase its territory, with the admission of the cantons of Valais, Neuchâtel and Geneva – this was also the last time Switzerland's territory expanded."


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switzerland#History

And they do hold quite a bit of all kinds peoples bank accounts and vaults and whatnot.

I dont have any theories as to the significance of this, Ive just marveled at it quite a few times when reading bout history of the last two hundred years. Especially the two world league matches. Nowadays I suppose theyre supposed to be played by the Geneva rulebook, by civilized people.

Great pocket knives as well, as MacGyver can testify.