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Postby seemslikeadream » Sun Dec 21, 2008 8:28 pm

http://www.legitgov.org/connell_crash_oddities.html

Connell's ill-fated flight originated from airport only 50 vetted people can use


Connell Crash 'Oddities' --Recently subpoenaed Bush/Rove IT expert is Wellstoned. By Lori Price 22 Dec 2008 Michael Connell's ill-fated flight originated from airport only 50 people can use. College Park Airport users are vetted -- including fingerprinting -- in an 'extensive process,' and there are 'significantlimitations' as to how the airport can be used.

Aero-TV Sepcial Report: Historic College Park Airport Struggles to Stay Alive 02 Apr 2008 'After 9/11, hard times came to College Park. Security issues, the TSA, FAA, a number of government agencies deicided that operating out of College Park presented a danger to the nation. Or, more specifially, to the nation's capital. We still don't exactly understand how. But since 2001, well, College Park has pretty much been under lock and key. You have to be vetted, you have to go through an extensive process -- fingerprinting, background -- you name it. And then there are significant limitations as to how you can use this airport. One of the most amazing little airports in the nation, is basically only to be used now by about fifty people at this point that have stuck it out...'

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Postby Nordic » Sun Dec 21, 2008 8:34 pm



Well that's a weird one I'd never heard of. I wonder whatever became of that?

And what's with the whole "I'm in a position of power and a lot of people hate me so I'm gonna fly a small plane by myself"???

If I was like that, I sure wouldn't fly alone in small planes .....
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Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Sun Dec 21, 2008 8:46 pm

Well, well.



National News Briefs; Senator Lands Airplane After Propeller Falls Off

Published: May 10, 1999

Senator James M. Inhofe made an emergency landing on Saturday after the propeller of the small airplane he was flying fell off.

Mr. Inhofe, an Oklahoma Republican, was not injured, said his press secretary, Danny Finnerty.

Mr. Inhofe said he had been in the air about 10 minutes when the propeller dropped off.

Mr. Inhofe, who has been a pilot for 41 years, glided for about eight miles before landing at an airport here.

Mr. Finnerty said the F.B.I. had been asked to investigate because ''propellers don't just fly off airplanes every day.''
CIA runs mainstream media since WWII:
news rooms, movies/TV, publishing
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Disney is CIA for kidz!
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Postby seemslikeadream » Mon Dec 22, 2008 1:07 am

http://thejournal.epluribusmedia.net/in ... on-lawyers


Rove Threat to Blackmail GOP IT Mastermind Triggers Immunity Request to Ohio AG by Election Lawyers
Ohio News
By John Michael Spinelli
Thursday, 24 July 2008 15:31
GOP Threatens “Valerie Plame” Style Strike Against Wife of IT Mastermind if He Doesn’t Become Fall Guy for Gaming the 2004 Ohio ElectionOhioNewsBureau

COLUMBUS, OHIO: The little story about how the GOP cyber-gamed the Ohio presidential election in 2004 is growing by the day, spurred on to greater heights Thursday when an Ohio election attorney asked the Ohio Attorney General to provide immunity protection to Mike Connell, the GOP IT mastermind who built various computer systems they say not only won Ohio for President Bush in 2004 but led to many other wins for Republicans over the years of the Bush Administration.

A key figure in the grand strategy of the Grand Old Party to build a cyber system that could assure permanent control by Republicans of key offices, state and federal, is Mike Connell, an Ohio native some refer to as a “High IQ Forrest Gump” for his brilliance in masterminding the construction of various computer systems associated with election procedures and data security, including the so-called firewall in Congress.

Ohio Attorney General Asked to Protect Key Witness in Election Fraud CaseIn an email sent to OhioNewsBureau by lead attorney Cliff Arnebeck, who filed a federal lawsuit in August 2006 asserting the GOP gamed the system and won the state by suppressing the votes of various progressive-leaning groups like students and African Americans and who wants to revive the case to protect the integrity of the 2008 election, Nancy H. Rogers, the former dean of the law school at The Ohio State University and interim Attorney General, was asked to provide immunity protection services to Connell.

The immunity request from Arnebeck to the Ohio AG was triggered by information from a confidential source that Karl Rove, a kingpin GOP strategist, threatened that if Mike Connell doesn’t go in the tank for cyber-rigging the 2004 election in Ohio, his wife will be sued for lobbying law violations. Using this kind of hardball tactic to rain retribution down on an individual for not allowing himself to be “thrown under the bus” smacks of the identical retaliation tactic used to punish Valerie Plame by outing her as a spy for remarks made by her husband Joe Wilson before the commencement of the war in Iraq that no evidence existed for uranium being sold by Niger to Saddam Hussein.

In an email to the General Mukasey at US Dept. of Justice, Arnebeck said “We have been confidentially informed by a source we believe to be credible that Karl Rove has threatened Michael Connell, a principal witness we have identified in our King Lincoln case in federal court in Columbus, Ohio, that if he does not agree to "take the fall" for election fraud in Ohio, his wife Heather will be prosecuted for supposed lobby law violations. This appears to be in response to our designation of Rove as the principal perpetrator in the Ohio Corrupt Practices Act/RICO claim with respect to which we issued document hold notices last Thursday to you and to the US Chamber of Commerce Institute for Legal Reform.”

Continuing, Arnebeck said, “I have informed court chambers and am in the process of informing the Ohio Attorney General's and US Attorney's offices in Columbus for the purpose, among other things, of seeking protection for Mr. Connell and his family from this reported attempt to intimidate a witness.

“Concurrently herewith, I am informing Mr. Conyers and Mr. Kucinich in connection with their Congressional oversight responsibilities related to these matters.

“Because of the serious engagement in this matter that began in 2000 of the Ohio Statehouse Press Corps, 60 Minutes, the New York Times, Wall Street Journal, C-Span and Jim VandeHei, and the public's right to know of gross attempts to subvert the rule of law, I am forwarding this information to them, as well.”

In an exclusive interview with OhioNewsBureau, Arnebeck said he expects to meet in person next week with attorneys in the Ohio AG’s office on his request for immunity filed today. For information on the King-Lincoln lawsuit, go here. Stressing that his aim is to enhance his lawsuit of 2006, Arnebeck said, "I’m not >trying to screw things up. I want to help not hinder.”

Asked what other offices could play a role, if they chose, in his campaign to unravel the Matrix behind what he and computer experts like Stephen Spoonamore say is going on but no one has yet to prove exists, Arnebeck said the Office of Ohio Secretary of State, the chief of elections, could use its legal authority to interrogate Connell, or initiate her own inquiry into the matter if she wants to hold off on the federal case. Arnebeck said Judge Algenon Marbley, who’s in charge of his case, has had members of his staff informally informed of the direction Arnebeck and his co-counsel, Bob Fitrakis, want to take the case along with their request to recover various emails of Karl Rove and the US Chamber of Commerce they feel makes their case.


“We want to cooperate,” Arnebeck said in a telephone interview today, about working with all offices on finding the truth behind efforts to build an effective but undetectable system that tilts close elections to Republicans.

Rove Alleged to Issue Blackmail Threat to Wife of GOP IT MastermindArnebeck was especially concerned that Connell’s wife would be slapped with a GOP lawsuit alleging violations of lobbying laws if Mike Connell didn’t fall on his sword as the person responsible for building the system. “If this is true about Connell’s wife, we want to do everything to make sure every witness will be protected against any such threat,” said Arnebeck, who added that if Connell feels threatened by Rove threatening to go after his wife on a criminal basis, he might not talk to House Judiciary Committee as he once said he might do but instead will seek out defense counsel.

“Intimidating a witness in a federal case is a serious crime,” Arnebeck said of his assertion that Rove has indeed made threats to Connell in this regard. Other sources familiar with the case say Arnebeck’s concerns are justified by people who would know but who cannot identify themselves for fear they could suffer similar threats or attacks on them Arnebeck said Ben Espy and Damian Sikora of the Ohio AG’s office are in receipt of his request.

For a view of the full letter authored by Arnebeck, check out this link at ePluribus Media. For links to more background on this developing detective story about the alleged subversion of law by Rove, the GOP and Connell, check it out here. The Bradblog covers it as does the Velvet Revolution.

OhioNewsBureau sent an email to the Office of Ohio Attorney General seeking a response about whether the office was in receipt of Arnebeck's request, confirming his statement to ONB that it had, what authority the office has to provide protection to Connell and members of his family and whether General Rogers was prepared to direct her agency to help in any matter. At the time this story was posted, no response was received from the Ohio Attorney General.

Blackwell Tells House Judiciary Committee Bi-Partisan Election System Ultimate Deterrent to Conspiracy TheoriesIn a related but separate story, J. Kenneth Blackwell, Ohio Secretary of State for the 2004 general election, testified before the House Judiciary Committee today. Blackwell was questioned by Chairman John Conyers, who was on Arnebeck's list of recipients, about charges that the election, under his watch, was severely flawed. As reported by The Columbus Dispatch, Blackwell told Conyers and committee members that Ohio’s 88 county boards of election are all run by both Democrats and Republicans. He said local officials decide on the distribution ratios for voting equipment, the location of polling stations and select the voting equipment used in their counties from lists of equipment certified by the secretary of state’s office, the Dispatch reported. In the report, Blackwell said, “All these local safeguards ensure that local concerns about access to polling stations are handled locally and that both parties have a say in the final decisions."

When Mr. Spoonamore, the cyber security expert Arnebeck has enlisted as a key witness and whose professional paths have crossed those of Connell, was asked a week ago whether the explanation that elections couldn't be cyber stolen because they are run by two major parties, as Blackwell told the House Judiciary committee as an air-tight reason why conspiracy is only a reality in the mind of conspiratists, Spoonamore said with great emphasis that none of the board of election members, Republican or Democrat, or their staff wouldn't have a clue that the election-system Matrix set up by pros like Connell was at work, undetectable to anyone, not the least of which would be board members who have no expertise in the software underlying the system they think they're running. No one has really probed the voter database software that touch-screen vendors bundle in with the equipment each county purchases for them, failing to understand that vendor technicians, who come and go with no checks on them, could tilt the playing field of elections is so directed by their superiors, who are not any of the people who believe they are in control of the system.
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Postby seemslikeadream » Mon Dec 22, 2008 1:12 am

http://www.democraticunderground.com/di ... 89x4699065

Larisa Alexandrovna: This Is An Interesting Development...

http://www.atlargely.com/2008/12/this-i ... pment.html

This is an interesting development...

Take a gander (emphasis mine):


Bush E-Mails May Be Secret a Bit Longer
Legal Battles, Technical Difficulties Delay Required Transfer to Archives

By R. Jeffrey Smith
Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, December 21, 2008; Page A01

The required transfer in four weeks of all of the Bush White House's electronic mail messages and documents to the National Archives has been imperiled by a combination of technical glitches, lawsuits and lagging computer forensic work, according to government officials, historians and lawyers.

Federal law requires outgoing White House officials to provide the Archives copies of their records, a cache estimated at more than 300 million messages and 25,000 boxes of documents depicting some of the most sensitive policymaking of the past eight years.

But archivists are uncertain whether the transfer will include all the electronic messages sent and received by the officials, because the administration began trying only in recent months to recover from White House backup tapes hundreds of thousands of e-mails that were reported missing from readily accessible files in 2005.

The risks that the transfer may be incomplete are also pointed up by a continuing legal battle between a coalition of historians and nonprofit groups over access to Vice President Cheney's records. The coalition is contesting the administration's assertion in federal court this month that he "alone may determine what constitutes vice presidential records or personal records" and "how his records will be created, maintained, managed, and disposed," without outside challenge or judicial review.

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White House spokesman Scott M. Stanzel said last week that "we are making significant progress in accounting for the e-mail records stored on our computer network." But he declined to say how many e-mails remain missing or to predict how long the recovery will take because the issue is the subject of ongoing litigation.

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In the case of the vice president's records, the White House has promised a different federal judge that it will comply with a Nixon-era law requiring the preservation and transfer of all documents related to the vice president's official duties, but the coalition has drafted a filing for the court on Monday that accuses Cheney of subtly seeking to circumscribe the legal definition of what those official duties encompass to such a degree that he will be able to take home or destroy countless documents related to policymaking that historians want to see.

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Stanzel said the White House is also still "working to acquire" e-mails involving official government business that were transmitted by presidential aides through accounts operated by the Republican National Committee, a problem also first publicized almost three years ago. "We continue to be in communication with RNC officials about recovering official records," he said without offering details. Such records are subject to the Presidential Records Act, which requires their transfer to the Archives at noon on Jan. 20.

This last graph describes (but does not mention and the writers may not even know) what Connell has been alleged to be directly involved in. So forget the plane crash for a moment. Why did Connell make this most recent trip to DC? Was it related to the allegedly scrubbed emails issue? Who did he meet with? These are questions that should be looked at regardless of what the investigators determine occurred with the plane crash. This is the story that some of us having tracking for quite some time. This is the important investigation that must take place. This is why Connell was important, because he was one of the few people who could answer these questions. There are others, a few, but will they be willing to talk now? Anyway, I want to state again - forget the crash for a moment and focus on this part of the story because this is the story of import. These emails must be retrieved if we are to know just what has happened in these last 8 years
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Postby seemslikeadream » Mon Dec 22, 2008 1:40 am

Connell was told his plane may be SABOTAGED !!! Threats from Rove over Ohio Election Fraud Case


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KWpp9PyFow



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Postby Nordic » Mon Dec 22, 2008 3:19 am

seemslikeadream wrote:
The required transfer in four weeks of all of the Bush White House's electronic mail messages and documents to the National Archives has been imperiled by a combination of technical glitches, lawsuits and lagging computer forensic work, according to government officials, historians and lawyers.


And now Cheney is simply refusing to give his docs and files to the National Archive.

Wow.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... id=topnews

Oh wait. This seems to be the same article. But check this out:

The risks that the transfer may be incomplete are also pointed up by a continuing legal battle between a coalition of historians and nonprofit groups over access to Vice President Cheney's records. The coalition is contesting the administration's assertion in federal court this month that he "alone may determine what constitutes vice presidential records or personal records" and "how his records will be created, maintained, managed, and disposed," without outside challenge or judicial review.

AND:

White House spokesman Scott M. Stanzel said last week that "we are making significant progress in accounting for the e-mail records stored on our computer network." But he declined to say how many e-mails remain missing or to predict how long the recovery will take because the issue is the subject of ongoing litigation.

(Gosh, what timing that the guy who set that all up just died in a fiery small airplane crash! Too bad he won't be any help recovering these now!)

AND:

In the case of the vice president's records, the White House has promised a different federal judge that it will comply with a Nixon-era law requiring the preservation and transfer of all documents related to the vice president's official duties, but the coalition has drafted a filing for the court on Monday that accuses Cheney of subtly seeking to circumscribe the legal definition of what those official duties encompass to such a degree that he will be able to take home or destroy countless documents related to policymaking that historians want to see.

Anne Weisman, the counsel for the plaintiffs, called Cheney's assertion that only those records related to tasks specially assigned by Bush need to be preserved "a loophole . . . large enough to drive truckloads of documents through." It means, she said, that Cheney would not have to surrender documents related to legislation or "advice he gives the president on his own initiative and the influence he has over the president's decisions."






'Tis the season .... to tidy up all the loose ends.

ON EDIT: I realize suddenly that this is a bit redundant from SLAD's post two posts back, but I didn't realize his link is basically the same as the WaPo article. Fuck it, I'll leave it up.
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Postby Nordic » Mon Dec 22, 2008 3:36 am

Why do I have to come to this nearly-deserted backwater to find out WTF is really going on in the world??

WTF!?

The Mumbai thread is the best source of info probably ANYWHERE regarding that bullshit.

How many people visit this place?

Hey, we're an "elite!"

Grrrrr!

Wouldn't it be just fucking great to take over the airwaves for a little while, like that guy in "They Live", and just tell people the truth for once?

I'm sure the sharp-shooters would put an end to that REAL quick, tho
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Postby Fred Astaire » Mon Dec 22, 2008 6:14 am

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Postby Penguin » Mon Dec 22, 2008 7:38 am

Nordic wrote:Why do I have to come to this nearly-deserted backwater to find out WTF is really going on in the world??

WTF!?

The Mumbai thread is the best source of info probably ANYWHERE regarding that bullshit.

How many people visit this place?

Hey, we're an "elite!"

Grrrrr!

Wouldn't it be just fucking great to take over the airwaves for a little while, like that guy in "They Live", and just tell people the truth for once?

I'm sure the sharp-shooters would put an end to that REAL quick, tho


Luckily, NOT!
See, my daily hangout BoingBoing.net, a place for all kinds of cool stuff and dun news for - nerds, my gawd! Covers this too.
They also covered stuff like police brutality at RNC and DNC and illegal wiretaps and CIA shooting down missionaries in Peru.

Heres a link to their covering of this story:

http://www.boingboing.net/2008/12/20/ma ... alter.html
"Man who set up alternate email for White House dies in plane crash"

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Posted by Mark Frauenfelder, December 20, 2008 3:04 PM | permalink
From at-Largely (Larisa Alexandrovna):

200812201504 “Mike Connell set-up the alternate email and communications system for the White House. He was responsible for creating the system that hosted the infamous GWB43.com accounts that Karl Rove and others used. When asked by Congress to provide these emails, the White House said that they were destroyed. But in reality, what Connell is alleged to have done is move these files to other servers after having allegedly scrubbed the files from all “known” Karl Rove accounts.

In addition, I have reason to believe that the alternate accounts were used to communicate with US Attorneys involved in political prosecutions, like that of Don Siegelman. This is what I have been working on to prove for over a year. In fact, it was through following the Siegelman-Rove trail that I found evidence leading to Connell. That is how I became aware of him. Mike was getting ready to talk. He was frightened.”


Graham writes: "Unfortunately, he won’t get to talk. He died in a plane crash yesterday." http://www.atlargely.com/2008/12/one-of ... /#comments

UPDATE: A curious press release: "Bush Insider Who Planned To Tell All Killed In Plane Crash: Non-Profit Demands Full Federal Investigation" (Thanks, Adam!)

(Via Why, That's Delightful) http://whythatsdelightful.wordpress.com ... ou-go-hmm/ "


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Postby Penguin » Mon Dec 22, 2008 7:44 am

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They had McGyver do him in...
Dont they ever learn about small planes or cars...

You wanna be safe, you bloody move like a ninja - only in the shadows of the nighty woods, on a black bicycle, armed with silent weapons of quiet hunters.
With eyes on your back. That way youll at least die with your biking boots on.

I hate planes, not quite as much as boats and ships, but close. Cars are somewhere in the top 5 too.

(disclaimer: I dont own any weapons, besides a slingshot, a small axe - vvveery sharp, a large hunting knife - also mighty sharp - and an assortment of tool knives. Been thinking of getting a bow for target practice thou. Im like McGyver that way - If I ever need a gun, Ill take it from the first bad guy or die trying. Also - Ive never killed anything but insects - fucking mosquitoes! Have almost driven to a ditch once while swerving to avoid running over a field mouse - of course first seeing that the road is empty save me. The mouse was fine, thank you! In that way, thx McGyver thou...Otherwise Im amazed at the levels of work in that series, seriously)
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Postby Fat Lady Singing » Mon Dec 22, 2008 9:09 am

Nordic wrote:Why do I have to come to this nearly-deserted backwater to find out WTF is really going on in the world??



I feel your pain... I live in Columbus, even saw the Columbus Dispatch RSS headline in my Google Reader, but didn't put two and two together. D'oh! Thanks RI, for filling in the blanks (in my brain), and Jack Riddler for the OP!
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Postby psynapz » Mon Dec 22, 2008 6:42 pm

Hugh Manatee Wins wrote:Well, well.
[...]
Published: May 10, 1999

Senator James M. Inhofe made an emergency landing on Saturday after the propeller of the small airplane he was flying fell off.


And today, a spectacular headline-stealing news story about a major airliner that ended up in a ravine after takeoff from the perfectly unsuspicious Denver Airport. Nobody died.

...Mike who?
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Postby Fred Astaire » Mon Dec 22, 2008 7:46 pm

Sen. Inhofe was leading the charge for impeachment against President Clinton when the propeller fell off of his plane. I put in a call to his office, and was told by an aide that the results of the investigation were "INCONCLUSIVE". The anger was off the charts. Inhofe backed off on messing with Clinton after the incident.
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