Luther Blissett » Thu Jun 18, 2015 9:23 am wrote:I
think there was an answer deep in the Fukushima thread, and that it was not optimistic.
I read
Our World Without Us, which answered the question "what would happen if all of humanity disappeared today, without the accompanying death throes of a civilization trying to survive by any means necessary?" In a review it was noted that the book sidestepped the issue that without the presence of a human hand, all nuclear reactors are set to melt down, if I remember correctly. I'll keep trying to find that answer.
Here is what I think is the most relevant
post in the Fukushima thread on this subject:
Regarding the 447 nuclear power plants being decommissioned safely without meltdown, it takes "upwards" of 60 years to do that, according to Gregory Jaczko, former Chairman of the Nuclear Regulatory Commision.
https://vimeo.com/83563406I also wanted to write an addendum to my
previous post regarding something I don't think I addressed sufficiently: the rich. Will they be able to find the technological means to evolve into a separate species? It's possible. If the bunker/cities they're building for themselves to prepare for the inevitable collapse are sufficiently stocked for decades to come, it is conceivable they could evolve separately from the radiological mutant masses.
What would happen when their stockpiles run out? Well, my imagination is a product of being a child of the 70s. I can foresee a social interaction between the techno-manipulative transhumans (haves) and the radiological mutant anarcho-primitives (have-nots) something along the lines of the movie
Zardoz. They would appear and act as gods using their technological superiority to bend the people to their will.
Doesn't sound too much different from now, does it? If there's an upside to this, it would be that because these two groups of haves and have-nots are separated not by wealth (anarcho-primitives would probably burn stack of dollars for fuel to cook a meal) but by the fact that they are two different species, it will be difficult for the techno-manipulative transhumans to infiltrate the anarcho-primitives for direct intelligence. All propaganda outreach would have to be done in a crude imposing manner from the outside. This increases the possibility that the anarcho-primitives could get wise to the transhuman machinations and, presuming they outnumber the rich sufficiently, plot an effective scheme to conquer them once and for all.
Perhaps Karl Marx's long view of history may prove to be correct.
"Huey Long once said, “Fascism will come to America in the name of anti-fascism.” I'm afraid, based on my own experience, that fascism will come to America in the name of national security."
-Jim Garrison 1967