Just Saw Nic Cage's "Knowing" film...Talk About RI

[8bitagent]

Wow, so I just saw "Knowing" tonight, the new Nicholas Cage thriller.
I didn't even know too much about it, but its like a Jeff Wells post to a tee.

Not sure if anyone has seen it, but the film's central theme is
synchronicity and numerology. Its like a Jake Kotze video on acid.
The thrust of the plot is that Nicholas Cage's character is a professor at MIT, and happens upon a 50 year old page his son brings home that is littered with endless number sequences hastily scribbled down.

One night, he sets his alcoholic drink down on the page on accident leaving a ring. Out of curiosity, he scribbles the numbers down. And right there, in front of us he writes a big "9 11 2001". The numbers next to it? 2996(number of people dead on that day) and the lat/longitude of Vessey and Church street. He then goes online to look up more about 9/11 and is horrified. He then realizes the paper also predicted Oklahoma City 1995, Mexico 1985 earth quake and so on.

I wont give too much more away, but this film has it all as central themes:
creepy phantom men in black that follow them around in dark cars,
UFOs, aliens, paranormal stuff, 9/11, terrorism, martial law, end times, solar flairs, references to the Kaballah, Ezekiel flame wheel, and of course lots of numerology and crazy syncronicities.

Anyone else seen this or similar themed movies?
Ive noticed a LOT of "RI" type themes in films.

Three big movies came out last year with CIA staged/provocatuered
al Qaeda attacks as its theme: Traitor, Body of Lies and Iron Man

[justdrew]

about two, heck, not more than three years ago I read this plot nearly exactly at godlikeproductions, under a typical... "a strange thing just happened to a friend of mine, ask me a question" type post. only I think then it was child-drawn pictures, not numbers. So I wonder if someone stole the idea or if they were using GLP as a focus group? I suppose it's possible it's just a coincidence.

[lightningBugout]

Yeah I saw it on someone here's recommendation and largely enjoyed it.

It's not a RI film by virtue of similarity in theme, though it shares much in poetry, oddity and moral ambiguity, - I watched Let the Right One In, the Swedish vampire film recently and will say - its a nearly perfect film.

[slow_dazzle]

Yeah I saw it on someone here's recommendation and largely enjoyed it.

It's not a RI film by virtue of similarity in theme, though it shares much in poetry, oddity and moral ambiguity, - I watched Let the Right One In, the Swedish vampire film recently and will say - its a nearly perfect film.

Let The Right One in is one of the best films I have ever seen. Very Bergman/Scandinavian (duh!) and a film that Hollywood would never have made in a million years. The scene where the girl has to be invited into the boy's house is heart rending. Excellent film. The use of a cold climate is a perfect metaphor for the subject matter and I found the acting quite natural. The version I saw was dubbed but it worked fine. Sometimes dubbing wrecks a foreign language film.

8bit - thanks for the heads up - didn't know about this film.

[8bitagent]

about two, heck, not more than three years ago I read this plot nearly exactly at godlikeproductions, under a typical... "a strange thing just happened to a friend of mine, ask me a question" type post. only I think then it was child-drawn pictures, not numbers. So I wonder if someone stole the idea or if they were using GLP as a focus group? I suppose it's possible it's just a coincidence.

Ive been telling Jeff on here, his blog posts(and now book) is an endless goldmine for a thousand different movies and tv shows.

[8bitagent]

I remember being taken to see Let The Right One In at the movie house, not having a clue what it was. My friend said it was the "anti Twilight". It was definitely a pretty uncomfortable(in a good way) film.

Anyone rented "My Winnipeg" yet? I still need to see The Reflecting Skin. Someone said since Im a massive David Lynch fan I'd dig it.

[MacCruiskeen]

Ive been telling Jeff on here, his blog posts(and now book) is an endless goldmine for a thousand different movies and tv shows.

Let's hope those movies and TV shows never get made -- unless, perhaps, Jeff himself is writing the scripts, with all the time in the world.

It's the quality of the writing (and thinking) that makes Rigorous Intuition Rigorous Intuition, and not the fact that it's full of Weird Stuff and gee-whiz plot ideas.

[slow_dazzle]

I remember being taken to see Let The Right One In at the movie house, not having a clue what it was. My friend said it was the "anti Twilight". It was definitely a pretty uncomfortable(in a good way) film.

Anyone rented "My Winnipeg" yet? I still need to see The Reflecting Skin. Someone said since Im a massive David Lynch fan I'd dig it.

The Reflecting Skin is a very good film with loads of understated creepiness. Won't spoil it but there is a horrifying implication regarding the disappearance of a young boy which really messes with one's head. If you like Lynch you'll like TRS.

Apparently Lynch is into TM in a big way. It shows - he unloads all his inner horrors on us, via the outlet of his films. There is a very good lecture by him in which he talks about film and other stuff. If I find the link I'll post it here.

[8bitagent]

I remember being taken to see Let The Right One In at the movie house, not having a clue what it was. My friend said it was the "anti Twilight". It was definitely a pretty uncomfortable(in a good way) film.

Anyone rented "My Winnipeg" yet? I still need to see The Reflecting Skin. Someone said since Im a massive David Lynch fan I'd dig it.

The Reflecting Skin is a very good film with loads of understated creepiness. Won't spoil it but there is a horrifying implication regarding the disappearance of a young boy which really messes with one's head. If you like Lynch you'll like TRS.

Apparently Lynch is into TM in a big way. It shows - he unloads all his inner horrors on us, via the outlet of his films. There is a very good lecture by him in which he talks about film and other stuff. If I find the link I'll post it here.

TM? I love his use of dream logic and language. Id say Fire Walk With Me and Mulholland Drive are my two favorites; followed closely by Lost Highway and The Straight Story.

[beeline]

I remember reading excerpts from a book back in '99 or so about the Bible code, sounds similar:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible_code

Lynch is a favorite. I was watching episodes of Twin Peaks at my friend's house this weekend, on some channel called Chiller. Lynch is heavily into TM, in fact he just had a fundraiser a few weeks ago for teaching TM to kinds in the inner cities:

http://www.davidlynchfoundation.org/

Howard Stern spoke at that, he is also into TM

Let's hope those movies and TV shows never get made -- unless, perhaps, Jeff himself is writing the scripts, with all the time in the world.

It's the quality of the writing (and thinking) that makes Rigorous Intuition Rigorous Intuition, and not the fact that it's full of Weird Stuff and gee-whiz plot ideas.

Agreed. However, I do think it would be a great show. Like a reality-based Twilight Zone.

[ninakat]

I saw "Knowing" a few weeks ago, and was really looking forward to it -- knowing that Cage can do some pretty interesting films (although I admit to liking his more obscure ones like Red Rock West) coupled with the idea of the paranormal. But unfortunately I was disappointed and had to give it a resounding thumbs down.

Spoiler alert: A sub-plot of the film is the fact that Nicholas Cage has an estranged relationship with his dad who's a minister, and Cage has lost his faith of Knowing in god having lost his wife in a tragic accident. But, by the end of the film, he reunites with his father for the end of the world, smiling and resolved because he now Knows that god exists. How did he get to the believing stage? Because the aliens came and took his son away before the sunspots burned up the earth.

Lots of expensive CGI though, if that counts for anything (it doesn't for me). I enjoyed lucky's thread on the Milky Waymuch more.

[sunny]

I haven't seen it but I'm bound to. Hubby brings home all of the craptastic Nic Cage films. He buys them, people! Men!

[waugs]

TM?

Trancendental Meditation

[KeenInsight]

Spoiler alert: A sub-plot of the film is the fact that Nicholas Cage has an estranged relationship with his dad who's a minister, and Cage has lost his faith of Knowing in god having lost his wife in a tragic accident. But, by the end of the film, he reunites with his father for the end of the world, smiling and resolved because he now Knows that god exists. How did he get to the believing stage? Because the aliens came and took his son away before the sunspots burned up the earth.

So... his god, in actuality, would be them alien fella's.

[teamdaemon]

8bit,

If there is one person who confirms Hugh's views on Hollywood, it's Nicolas Cage. Let's see,

- Multiple movies obscuring the truth behind freemasonry

- Movie glorifying international arms dealers personally

- Movie making anyone talking about "conspiracies" look like a crazy drunk

...?